From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 23:45:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD2ACC48 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 23:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46F092717 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 23:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z12so2628970wgg.0 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qxlPk5coY8TiLEVP7xSIQlju/xky7amxuC78yEuz/2I=; b=Kcag3kKQ5m34FF03X7k+P5r12jUKVswGcgS4n5D5slPp64D+iaC5/I2Vp4cw6MrCoV 2fQMfKEXbKLeowzfCJhUrl3OYkQI+SGX3jC0o/usTa/RDWwcR+WYCJYF++3uRobpL6xU q3Dtb6bhVwFidcRHm/M6svsczzdHTB1yrMbgtI+9FtTuK13rbYhBpCdC7kz5Fga191Ox VU6bDPnd7dlJlnOxantK6FbpgpxBC+mdlnzI73hgKMH2zbmVqT+ooKM7n7GlHA9X/Ijl 9LdEwN89Hq3uxA0Xli5LUcisLXbsmo/P/FFHro2y7YcL8nDrQe0O0FCV70PezP2lKbJV pPlA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.212.48 with SMTP id nh16mr28171944wic.49.1400111101479; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.86.145 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140514232502.88f3cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140514222320.cce7c921.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140514232502.88f3cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 19:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firefox will adapt closed source DRM From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Antonio Olivares X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 23:45:03 -0000 On 14 May 2014 17:25, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 16:52:24 -0400, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> I dont have flash. IT is a resource hog! CPU hovers to 90%+ levels. >> If I want to see a youtube video, I use youtube script >> >> https://calomel.org/youtube_wget.html > > I don't just see "Flash" of a way to serve (and restrict) video > content. To be honest, I usually use youtube-dl (from ports) and > mplayer, because it's less resource-hungry and much more comfor- > table to use, and of course I can watch videos while being offline. > Yes, that's hard to imagine, I know. ;-) I manually update youtube-dl from a script, & back it up (in case the functionality changes). It works well for vimeo & quite a few non-HTML5 sites. > Still for the "normal" web user, built-in video has become a > promary demand. This is where "Flash" has been the first choice > on the desktop, Flash [wa|i]s a crime, & should be prosecuted as such. > Of course, HTML 5 is an alternative. It _should_ be able to > completely obsolete "Flash". On the other hand: Those who create > content might want to control the content, and restrict it. So > they demand that there's a way so they can easily do that. This > way is usually present in the browser (either through a plugin, > or by the browser itself). > > And again let me emphasize: When the user cannot see the dancing > bunnies, it's the browser's fault. I've started using xombrero exclusively for certain sites (it has js whitelisting, among other lovely features). It's really nice to be able to read news (which is text) without having to click all those "subscribe to our utterly useless whatever" js popups. Even that has its limitations, though. It might be time to go back to lynx & dial-up. -- --