From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Jan 23 03:39:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316E514B96BC; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 03:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAAB0880F9; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 03:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id AF9061FFA1; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 03:39:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: Martin Wilke Cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 04:38:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> (Martin Wilke's message of "Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:17:42 +0800") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CAAB0880F9 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.85 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.858,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 03:39:05 -0000 Martin Wilke writes: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > >> ## Jan Beich (jbeich@FreeBSD.org): >> >> > Looking at Try options[1] and automation[2] I'm not sure WAYLAND=off is >> > tested nowadays. In www/firefox WAYLAND=off has no effect[3] unless >> > x11-toolkits/gtk30 also has WAYLAND=off. I've reported the issue >> > upstream[4] but for now just locally remove files/patch-bug1514156. >> > If there's no fix in sight after actual release on 2019-01-29 then >> > the patch can be moved under WAYLAND_EXTRA_PATCHES. >> >> I personally don't mind having the wayland stuff around - from >> the log I gather I disabled it quite some time ago because it >> broke something ("glx/dri/whatever", sic) back in the days. >> Now it just works. And firefox 65 works, too. >> >> Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland" >> might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the >> WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always? > > Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really working with FreeBSD atm. x11-wm/sway works, except on x11/nvidia-driver. No clue about others. GDK_BACKEND=wayland is default in Gtk3 if running under Wayland, except www/firefox. QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland often work fine but not default. Lots of X11 apps work under Xwayland e.g., www/seamonkey, editors/emacs, x11/xterm. > Why should I/We install it when we dont use it? For me the only thing it does is increasing build time, > and for minimal desktops a useless dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions > on a desktop. For minimal X11 desktops a lot of stuff is useless e.g., D-Bus per bug 194460 but accessibility/orca needs D-Bus. I suspect all Wayland-specific dependencies *combined* don't reach the build time of a single devel/llvm*.