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Date:      Thu, 8 Aug 1996 00:28:54 +0000 ()
From:      James Raynard <fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk>
To:        Don Yuniskis <dgy@rtd.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: perhaps i am just stupid.
Message-ID:  <199608080028.AAA05336@jraynard.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <199608071139.EAA17578@seagull.rtd.com> from "Don Yuniskis" at Aug 7, 96 04:39:13 am

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> > So, Why waste time doing both.. a Dos based cksum compatiable with
> > FreeBSD's cksum's output as well as a kludge'y batch file!
> > It would be just as easy to whip up a dos based program that
> > read the *.sum files and compared them to the files on the fly!
> 
> I would advocate *against* modifying the code for this.  Put that
> functionality into a .BAT file wrapper.  This allows someone
> already knowledgable in cksum(1) to modify the BAT file without
> having to learn some bogus *new* MyCksum program.  

I don't like the batch file idea at all.  And assuming that users 
will FTP down the files in alphabetical order (which I think you 
mentioned in another post) is just asking for trouble.

> Also cuts down
> on the maintenance of yet another piece of software 

But we've already introduced more maintenance work - someone has
to generate these checksums every time a new release comes out.

This program shouldn't need much maintenance - all it will need for
each release is a config file that tells it what distributions are
available and which files are in each one (in fact, I believe that's
what the *.inf files in 2.1.5 do).

> (and, is more
> in tune with the UNIX philosophy of building with existing tools).

If we were talking about a Unix environment you would have my 101%
agreement.  Unfortunately, DOS was designed on the philosophy that
a program has to do everything itself; the "shell" is practically
useless for anything more than launching applications.  As for the
OS, well, why do so many DOS programmers talk directly to the 
hardware?

> It hardly seems worth any "performance increase" to replace DOS's
> batch file interpretter with hardcoded system("cksum.exe")

You don't have to call system() - just hack cksum's command-line
handling so it reads the names from a file instead and sorts them into
alphabetic order.  Put #ifdef MSDOS/#endif around this if it makes you
happier :-)

(BTW what's the max length of a DOS command line?  The bin.* files 
in 2.1.0 are 6 chars long, and there's 82 of them, plus a space 
between each one - that's getting on for 600 chars by my reckoning).

Once you've done that, then adding a couple of lines to read in 
a number from a file and compare it to the number you first thought 
of is trivial.

I do understand why you want to do this in as Unix-like a way as
possible, but I don't think it's workable.  Sorry.




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