From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Apr 16 09:10:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05343 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vital.bleeding.com (vital.bleeding.com [205.166.195.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05326 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crimson (crimson.bleeding.com [205.166.254.2]) by vital.bleeding.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22283; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crimson with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4A46.7D3F5540@crimson>; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:13:46 -0700 Message-ID: <01BC4A46.7D3F5540@crimson> From: Justin Wolf To: "'Adam Haberlach'" , "rsacrack@vex.net" , "hackers@freebsd.org" , "deschall@gatekeeper.megasoft.com" Subject: RE: First place. Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:13:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id JAA05335 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk True, you should be doing it for the money. Since it doesn't really prove anything, that about all it's worth. Ten g's over all the people involved works out to what... about a buck each? Doesn't sound like it's really worth your time... how much do you make an hour at your job? Bah... why are we ranting? -Justin -----Original Message----- From: Adam Haberlach [SMTP:HaberlaA@testlab.orst.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 8:30 AM To: 'Justin Wolf'; rsacrack@vex.net; hackers@freebsd.org; deschall@gatekeeper.megasoft.com Subject: RE: First place. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----Original Message----- From: Justin Wolf [SMTP:jjwolf@bleeding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 11:43 PM To: 'cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com'; Golan Klinger Cc: rsacrack@vex.net; hackers@freebsd.org; deschall@gatekeeper.megasoft.com Subject: RE: First place. >You actually think that DES is too weak when it takes all the >hackers in the known unix world to stage an attempt which has >been so far unsuccessful? Hmm... different point of view I >guess. Err--that's not really the point. We've doing this with only $10,000 as our reward, and without spending any money on hardware. The only resources we're using already exist.. If you give me $500,000 and three months, I will build you a system to crack codes in days instead of months. Has anyone done the calculations to see how long it would take Intel's Teraflops computer to crack DES? DES is always crackable given enough time or money. We're doing it with _no_ money and taking 150 days to do it. Right now I'm trying to convince one of our support-droids that the 'computer resources' he is trying so hard to save are merely going to screen updates of a login banner. On almost 100 machines. - --- Adam Haberlach haberlaa@ucs.orst.edu http://www.engr.orst.edu/~haberlad Crack DES now! http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1Tv3hSmwqZasiJdAQGG5AP9H+3jgEq+y6mUkRrDZ+LK09fiLAjXIIDz Z5Qbb9Cql1dzsVVY3ZsQzphyE+gT+zM9Fbn2yDbfsDLX+vDc4dvhX22cvVIJcN9J N0InRBDWH6fcEX4Cmq+lGHXSb8jx/iwbYW4gGkT7++UuZC/VKDPy3jBnltodivpr aEXRg6CdX18= =ZSIJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----