Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:22:33 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> Cc: Kevin Street <street@iname.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, dfr@nlsystems.com, mike@smith.net.au, rminnich@Sarnoff.COM, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Star Office Installation Message-ID: <9375.896671353@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 31 May 1998 19:39:31 PDT." <199806010239.TAA25205@rah.star-gate.com>
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> Sorry, Jordan I differed with your opinion. We are obviously at a stage > that we need to increase our coverage and in my opinion getting > Star Office to work on FreeBSD is a good goal so the motivation > factor is there. Um, Amancio, you are just completely and totally missing the point here and I don't know how else to put it. There's activism and then there's whining. Trying to sell "whining" under the activism label just won't fly, no matter how you try and twist the words around to justify it, and if you're really motivated to do something about the problem then history has more than amply shown us that the best results always come from someone actually DOING something about a problem! Lead, and others will follow. Leave the worrying about "dominant hackers" and other such new-age observations to the sociologists and be the more pragmatic engineer that I know you can be. Whining that people are sitting on their asses is simply not how you motivate engineers, something you should be more than well aware of yourself, and it's yelling "charge!" and diving on a problem, perhaps describing your ongoing detective work as it progresses, which is far more motivational to those surrounding you. I have plenty of statistical evidence on previous failures and successes to back me up on this one so just trust me on it, OK? :-) > Requesting censorship on the voice of reason is not an option if anything > the useless thread on Star Office should have been steered in a more > pro-active fashion. Perhaps you like to hear that Star Office Ok, consider this message my attempt to steer it in a more pro-active fashion then. I'm telling you outright: What works and works best around here are people who are willing to lead from the front. Now what are you prepared to do about it? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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