From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 2 23:47:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9E816A41A for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649D013C442 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A10A4A77; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:46:58 -0500 To: Jona Joachim Message-ID: <20070802234658.GB2842@soaustin.net> References: <46B14894.8060408@tpnet.co.nz> <20070802235154.3d518c3d@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070802235154.3d518c3d@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:15:44 +0000 Cc: "Marcos Biscaysaqu - ThePacific.net" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atheros Open Hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:47:02 -0000 On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:51:54PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote: > Quoting from > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/people.html: > "In order to develop FreeBSD, committers must have the ability to > openly discuss matters that will be resolved before they are publicly > announced. Frank discussions of work in progress are not suitable for > open publication and may harm FreeBSD." Of course, the sentence you omitted that precedes the above is: "The FreeBSD developers mailing list is for the exclusive use of FreeBSD committers." So you are taking the policy for *one single* private mailing list and, by removing the context, making it appear that we are in some way attempting to stifle discussion on the public lists. The mailing list in question is more often used to hash out disagreements (technical and otherwise) among developers than to hide anything. For many people, it would be of little interest. If you think that some kind of issue is not being addressed, your best bet is a post to advocacy@. If you want to work on code, then hackers@ is probably a better bet. mcl