From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 00:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3BF10656AE; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from mx1.blinkenlights.nl (mx1.blinkenlights.nl [IPv6:2a02:898:17:8000::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1798B8FC1F; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bastard.snore.nl (bastard.snore.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:666:ffff:0:42ff:fe00:4]) by mx1.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D42611451; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:03:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bastard.snore.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69FAF28A02D; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:03:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: sten@blinkenlights.nl Delivered-To: sten@blinkenlights.nl Received: from mx0.blinkenlights.nl (mx0.blinkenlights.nl [IPv6:2a01:1b0:201:1::25]) by zaphod.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7BB17F455 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by mx0.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B81473021 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:05:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [69.147.83.54]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5185F5CC8E; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2C716A40F; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1516A40D; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366C613C457; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA1D85C918; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:02:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30803-05; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:02:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D917685C90E; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:02:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4C83954F; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:02:27 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Marc G. Fournier" , Thiago Esteves de Oliveira , "Brian A. Seklecki" Message-ID: <8C636E624D5DA8E80F6E4514@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <5812F952CA324A89DC899AD9@ganymede.hub.org> References: <65091.200.191.164.248.1175458028.squirrel@www.lamce.coppe.ufrj.br> <5812F952CA324A89DC899AD9@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No buffer space available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:03:57 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:02:26 -0300 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:03:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thiago ... What version of kernel did you end up going back to? - --On Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:15:48 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I'm seeing the same effect (haven't tried older kernel, mind you) almost like > clockwork, every 72 hours after reboot ... at least now I don't feel so > crazy, knowing it isn't just me ... > > - --On Sunday, April 01, 2007 17:07:08 -0300 Thiago Esteves de Oliveira > wrote: > >> I've tried to increase the kern.ipc.nmbclusters value but it worked only when >> I changed the kernel to an older one. >> >> netstat -m (Now it's working with the same values.) >> - >> 515/850/1365 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) >> 512/390/902/65024 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) >> 512/243 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) >> 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) >> 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) >> 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) >> 1152K/992K/2145K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) >> 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) >> 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) >> 0/0/0 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) >> 0 requests for sfbufs denied >> 0 requests for sfbufs delayed >> 2759 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile >> 2982 calls to protocol drain routines >> >> Ethernet adapters >> - >> em0: port >> 0xec80-0xecbf m em 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci7 >> em0: Ethernet address: 00:04:23:c3:06:78 >> em0: [FAST] >> skc0: <3Com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem >> 0xfebd8000-0xfebdbfff irq 15 at device 6.0 on pci7 >> skc0: 3Com Gigabit NIC (3C2000) rev. (0x1) >> sk0: on skc0 >> sk0: Ethernet address: 00:0a:5e:65:ad:c3 >> miibus0: on sk0 >> e1000phy0: on miibus0 >> e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, >> auto >> >> P.S.: I am using the FreeBSD/amd64. >> >> Brian A. Seklecki wrote: >>> Show us netstat -m on the broken kernel? Show us your dmesg(8) for >>> em(4). >>> >>> TIA, >>> ~BAS >>> >>> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 11:13 -0300, Thiago Esteves de Oliveira wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've had a problem with one of my FreeBSD servers, the machine has stopped >>>> its network services and then sent these messages: >>>> >>>> -Mar 27 13:00:03 anubis dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available >>>> -Mar 27 13:00:26 anubis routed[431]: Send bcast sendto(em0, >>>> 146.164.92.255.520): No buffer space available >>>> >>>> The messages were repeated a lot of times before a temporary solution. I've >>>> changed the kernel(FreeBSD 6.2) to an older one(FreeBSD 6.1) and since then >>>> it's been working well. What happened? >>>> >>>> P.S.: I can give more informations if necessary. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGE6UE4QvfyHIvDvMRAlutAJ0WzVTYq99hmx1km2mdXE7pdUC8IgCgt4O1 > eG6kXgqHveumXjkL0t+Q8Q8= > =sieE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGE/ZC4QvfyHIvDvMRAsWoAJwJpD8nCtG0iv5U6LY8ISyyDKxgegCg1eti SezStun7CLDA9pgfrp8GloM= =UwSU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 00:23:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF241065676 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700378FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9B0LDu8007684; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:23:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20091011002306.GB73561@thought.org> References: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> <031c01ca494c$081b7600$18526200$@rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <031c01ca494c$081b7600$18526200$@rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: 'stan' , 'Free BSD Questions list' Subject: Re: text2html ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:23:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 08:50:22PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of stan > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:20 PM > To: Free BSD Questions list > Subject: text2html ? > > I had a contractor uppgrade a freebsd machine a while back. Now I am > finding things that did not get done corectly. > > The latest is that I have some other machines that create text files copy > them over to this machine, and put them iin the webservers space. Looks > like in the past, these files were procesed by /usr/local/bin/text2html, > which O would almost certainly have installed from a port. > > But, I cannot seem to find this port. > > Can anyone sugest either where I can find this utlity, or what I might use > as an alternative? The text files to process are very simple reports of > system statistics. > > Thanks for any ideas. My ascii-to-markup [atom] was ported a few months ago. It was ported as v1.0 but I have been working on it since 1994. It maybe overkill, but maybe not... . hth, gary > > > pauls@utd65257# cd /usr/ports/ > pauls@utd65257# make search name=text2html > pauls@utd65257# make search name=txt2html > Port: txt2html-2.51 > Path: /usr/ports/textproc/txt2html > Info: Convert raw text to something with a little HTML formatting > Maint: jadawin@FreeBSD.org > B-deps: p5-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.24 p5-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.19 > p5-Getopt-ArgvFile-1.11 p5-Module-Build-0.30 p5-YAML-0.68 p5-YAML-Syck-1.05 > perl-5.8.9 > R-deps: p5-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.24 p5-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.19 > p5-Getopt-ArgvFile-1.11 p5-Module-Build-0.30 p5-YAML-0.68 p5-YAML-Syck-1.05 > perl-5.8.9 > WWW: http://txt2html.sourceforge.net/ > > > Paul Schmehl (pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) > In case it isn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 00:44:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BDD106568D for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA9E8FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so1847130eyf.9 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PXs2ERK/ocq41VJT9JCxSQAEdqnAhr99+2qbnIjArOc=; b=lB7MAPUopGD6k77IWqWVzS7QBw/nxd9Baw+GyoNO9oH4bFtx5KHvGTwV8FiY3SMMAM xeQOjf8DshLw/CsQ3kM4jhDZiNUi7IjP7hWZis2q6aWdOvXWrsAfsBNn80J9bEkkFkVz NPQO2mpFlrCbryC7Bi5o0onfV0QEDkUWNApes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QxmjudviOaDodK/fm4KLL+alFRV7jfRWUequRfsi+La69K+SyhffzNIFw0gqNCYz6a P82o5caB7+YAGYD2w8viuqgkGO2Z/+hXFfOw0eURbZ0fOSWUJ1GpUKM8jq0P6LJVFtXM GTJrl6abjXGYr1wHdkM/AnN6wi5RD5HAM601Y= Received: by 10.210.9.18 with SMTP id 18mr5329229ebi.34.1255221840701; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm2645313eyg.11.2009.10.10.17.43.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:43:46 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091011014346.344c37f8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20091010200418.8e880250.freebsd@edvax.de> <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:44:02 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > The only time I can > really think I'd want /tmp to be in RAM is if I already had too much > RAM for the needs of the box - otherwise, just give me the RAM... But it wouldn't actually be a ram disk, that's just just a misnomer that people, who ought to know better, are throwing around. It would probably be tmpfs. > While I'm reasonably happy rolling my own FS sizes, I would be even > happier if I didn't have to. As long as we're doing the wish list, > I'd guess for this (all numbers significantly flexible): > > Drive < 16 GB = keep current layout? > > Drive > 16 and < 40 GB = > / = 1 GB > swap = 1.5x RAM > /tmp = 2 GB > /var = 2 GB > /usr = remaining space 2 GB each for /var and /tmp is far too high for such small disks, I wouldn't want to squander 4GB like that much below a TB. It's a figure that's hardly ever going to be "about right" either for /tmp or /var, when it isn't far too big, it's likely to be too small. > Drive > 40 GB = > / = 1 GB > swap = 1.5x RAM > /tmp = 2 GB > /var = 2 GB > /usr = 1/2 of remaining space, min 20 GB, max 35 GB > /home = everything else. Having a home directory separate from /usr is often a good idea, but making it part of the default install is a really bad idea IMO. A desktop user with a largish disk may want 98% of it under /home, a server may need next to nothing under /home. The amount needed for /usr also varies enormously. It's so hard to come-up with sensible values that the only sensible thing to do is leave them on the same partition by default. It's not exactly rocket science to add your own /home partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 01:06:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED7D1065672 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C073A8FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9B158iE001268; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:05:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id o5K1Y3q3V6rP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:03:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9B0hvNL000913; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:44:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4AD12A4D.5010008@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:43:57 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Laine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AD0C4D5.1060308@daleco.biz> <20091010175617.GA84102@free.bsd.loc> In-Reply-To: <20091010175617.GA84102@free.bsd.loc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Tcpwrappers, sendmail, and unknown hosts... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:06:10 -0000 Jeff Laine wrote: > On Sat,10-10-2009 [12:31:01], Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Seems like a lot of the spam we fight comes from >> hosts with no DNS entries. What about using this? >> >> ---------------------------------- >> $grep sendmail /etc/hosts.allow >> >> sendmail : KNOWN : allow >> sendmail : UNKNOWN : deny >> --------------------------------- >> >> Comments? anyone tried it? >> > > Hi Kevin! > > What you need is 'require_rdns' feature. > Also from my own expirience, dnsbl feature of > Sendmail works great for spammers scum. TYTY! Bang-Smack-Out of the park. Lemme know where I can send {$beverage}. Mail queue (Sendmail dual + amavid-new + spamassassin) is down from 100+ to < 10 after adding that to .mc and rebooting. Thanks a bunch :-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 02:06:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20159106568B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northsidesoxfan@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1318FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rDCb1c0031HzFnQ59DtaU0; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:53:34 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([69.139.118.74]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rDta1c0081cPj1R3aDtald; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:53:34 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 northsidesoxfan@comcast.net; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:51:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:51:49 -0500 From: Bryan Cassidy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X=Operating-System: 'uname -a' Subject: ASUS M4A78T-E Motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:06:50 -0000 Hi, I am in the process of building a new PC and I am building this machine (one of three... second will be OpenBSD Firewall for FreeBSD and a third one for Windows.. you know games and all that stuff) and I am wondering if I will have any problems with this motherboard amd its chipset. North Bridge is AMD 790GX and South Bridge is AMD SB750. it comes with a VIA VT1708S onboard soundcard and the handbook states the VIA VT1708 is supported so I am hoping it is the case with this one. Second, ATI Radeon HD 3300 onboard video. I keep coming up with info that states it is suppported and last is the Atheros L1E onboard LAN card. I will give you a rundown of what I want to do and maybe I can get some advice on hardware and how I approach this. I mainly use FreeBSD for my daily machine because I just enjoy using FreeBSD and it is just what I need for a day to day use. I have a 23" LCD right now hookup via VGA on my laptop and when the machine I am building is done I would like to run a triple LCD setup. I've always wanted to run OpenBSD as a firewall and so I would like to build a basic machine with no sound, and no video to serve this purpose. I would like to also run Apache and run my own website. The third machine for Windows I might just partition one of my hard drives (I will be getting 3 Seagate Barracuda LP ST32000542AS 2TB hard drives. Total 6 TBs.) and put Windows on it and just by another video card for extreme gaming or something. I am kinda new to building my own PC so some opinions on this would be greatly appreciated. Also, as a side note, the specs above would be just to get it started and I would eventually add my own PCI NIC card, PCI sound, and PCI Video card. Any and all thoughts are welcome. Thanks for any help. hoping that everything will work out of box with FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 02:22:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4901065672 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC288FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W62 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:22:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [219.67.152.99] From: Marwan Sultan To: , Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:22:31 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87ocof6ky1.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <35f70db10910091408x38271c39t80d669a5c61f6898@mail.gmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2009 02:22:32.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[B00D7430:01CA4A19] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:22:32 -0000 =20 > From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr > To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za > CC: dead_line@hotmail.com=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. > Date: Sat=2C 10 Oct 2009 23:41:26 +0300 >=20 > On Fri=2C 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200=2C Ross Cameron w= rote: > >On Fri=2C Oct 9=2C 2009 at 8:28 PM=2C Marwan Sultan wrote: > >> Hello Gurus=2C > >> Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a > >> charm for many years. > >> > >> But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > >> > >> This server will be a DNS server=2C apache=2C shell accounts..php=2C m= ysql. > > > > I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as > > production ready by the fBSD dev team). >=20 > Excellent advice :-) >=20 > To the original poster: >=20 And the original poster thanks you back=2C and thanks everyone replied or gave my email attention. =20 Yes FBSD 7.2 could be the best for now.. =20 Why did i send the email in the first place? some releases may have issues! I remember 5.2 and 5.1..I had problems with = it. this is why i stuck to my old 4.8 also I had a new project with radius=2C accounting=2C chillispot..when i in= stalled 7.0 things didnot work as i expected.. take a note it was identical configuration to 6.2..so i had to roll back t= o 6.2.. =20 This time its a commercial use=2C and remote administration=2C so i didnot = want to take the risk of having a wrong "commercial version" =20 Thanks everyone. Marwan Sultan System Administrator =0A= _________________________________________________________________=0A= Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 02:27:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF8106568F for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAE18FC1A for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:27:28 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFV45364; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:26:03 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19153.16953.760420.694194@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:26:01 -0400 To: Bryan Cassidy In-Reply-To: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> References: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ASUS M4A78T-E Motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:27:29 -0000 Bryan Cassidy writes: > ... I am wondering if I will have any problems with this > motherboard amd its chipset. North Bridge is AMD 790GX and South > Bridge is AMD SB750. it comes with a VIA VT1708S onboard > soundcard and the handbook states the VIA VT1708 is supported so > I am hoping it is the case with this one. Second, ATI Radeon HD > 3300 onboard video. The machine on which I am composing this has a different motherboard (ASrock AOD290GX) but the same NorthBridge and integrated graphics. Works fine. (Except for one teeny thing, which I'm hoping is due to a bad BIOS setting. Symptom: "shutdown -p now" works as expected. "shutdown -r now" ... tha machine shuts down but does not restart. No screen messages, no nothing - just a one-way trip into the Twilight Zone. A teeny problem, since ot pnly gets rebooted on kernel upgrade.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 02:31:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8A61065672 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D998FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:31:18 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFV45601; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 22:30:40 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19153.17231.751627.733206@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:30:39 -0400 To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <19153.16953.760420.694194@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> <19153.16953.760420.694194@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bryan Cassidy Subject: ASUS M4A78T-E Motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:31:19 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > The machine on which I am composing this has a different > motherboard (ASrock AOD290GX) s/AOD290GX/AOD790GX/ Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 02:43:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B50B1065672 for ; 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Message-ID: <59022.94044.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2FpqxyQVM1knYDizHEgCxu0IPVeyWAjbCFaQRj_v3EMiQexGUGkqlT1hhJo8kWtji7_9y4fWQR3fa.ZnpejxQ1ECjutxa0eFSbmE8mDXfZFBS9be7m5qFHrVC0n4Z5nRPQLlIoHtl7Wr_F6kqBeB1eZcHZiHHeOjSKRriBneeHcTulo0Q1fIxDgORvVuG5u4EAHpKcbttxBzdJmLzzuoAXJ1hqbfPcFZrOT3mzUj9z5a1cLdqhl8uRijQ_EfNOh9D4Nh0rJM7WYlpPNzRRQEJYPWKYl5KO7b8b2TRgtwumeEYuv30zgCgMQDXb2jx_UKp7aPHkidGlAka185_W_fS98pjTNr3Joa6T9cMB.Y8TuzfQ4gQ4cC36kgAxuIoZmO1PlgBbxjQGXRZl1iEAB9psjGkrxEiHCEAqN_SMI- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:43:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:43:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: RW Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:43:27 -0000 --- On Sat, 10/10/09, RW wrote: >From: RW >Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 8:43 PM > >On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) >Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > >> The only time I can >> really think I'd want /tmp to be in RAM is if I already had too much >> RAM for the needs of the box - otherwise, just give me the RAM... > >But it wouldn't actually be a ram disk, that's just just a misnomer >that people, who ought to know better, are throwing around. It >would probably be tmpfs. Correction (or at least correction to precision) noted.=A0 I'd still rather= use it as RAM the regular way.=A0 :) >> While I'm reasonably happy rolling my own FS sizes, I would be even >> happier if I didn't have to.=A0 As long as we're doing the wish list, >> I'd guess for this (all numbers significantly flexible): >>=20 >> Drive < 16 GB =3D keep current layout? >>=20 >> Drive > 16 and < 40 GB =3D=20 >> / =3D 1 GB >> swap =3D 1.5x RAM=20 >> /tmp =3D 2 GB >> /var =3D 2 GB >> /usr =3D remaining space > >2 GB each for /var and /tmp is far too high for such=A0 small disks, I >wouldn't want to squander 4GB like that much below a TB. It's a figure >that's hardly ever going to be "about right" either for /tmp or /var, >when it isn't far too big, it's likely to be too small. So, your opinion is that if 768 MB (or 512 MB, or 1G, whatever) isn't enoug= h, then it's likely that 2 GB also isn't enough?=A0 That those who need mor= e than the default /var and /tmp often (or usually) need a LOT more?=A0 Rea= sonable, and I am not sure I could disagree with that completely. =A0=20 I was approaching it from perhaps a slightly different tack, though.=A0 Wha= t I was thinking of was of defaults for people who will use the defaults.= =A0 Someone running=A0 a mail server is unlikely to use the defaults, and y= ou are completely correct that they'd need a lot more space in /var.=A0 But= , average Joe may just use it for fiddling around with.=A0 Maybe one day he= 'll start fiddling with MySQL or perhaps even trying to partially or comple= tely host his own email.=A0 I'd like him, with his 250 GB drive, to have en= ough space to at least play with that for a while without worrying overly m= uch about running out of room or having to move DB files or something. For that matter, I wonder if the solution for those sorts is to make a 'sim= ple' mode that does swap and one big partition for everything else?=A0=A0 O= r make 'auto' do that, and let everyone else use their own sizes? Thinking out loud here: What if 'auto' did one big /, and 'advanced' only l= aid in the partitions without sizes at all, then for each you'd have to jus= t tell it how big to make it.=A0 A special option would be on the /home one= , which would be to symlink it to /usr/home.=A0 Not that this would happen = any time soon - that code doesn't look to be easily convertable to somethig= n like this.=20 >> Drive > 40 GB =3D=20 >> / =3D 1 GB >> swap =3D 1.5x RAM=20 >> /tmp =3D 2 GB >> /var =3D 2 GB >> /usr =3D 1/2 of remaining space, min 20 GB, max 35 GB >> /home =3D everything else. > > >Having a home directory separate from /usr is often a good idea, but >making it part of the default install is a really bad idea IMO.=20 > >A desktop user with a largish disk may want=A0 98% of it >under /home, a server may need next to nothing under /home. The amount >needed for /usr also varies enormously. I had been assuming that someone setting up a server was unlikely to accept= the default 'a'uto sizes and would have rolled their own.=A0 Under the sch= eme I had above, the desktop user with a large disk - say 1 TB - would have= ended up with 1TB - (1 GB / + ~4 GB swap + 2 GB /var + 2 GB /tmp + 35 GB /= usr) =3D about 950 GB in /home.=A0 (Or, well, that'd be what, 870MB out of = 925MB or something?)=20 A server with that same drive would likely never have had the 'a' key press= ed inside disklabel.=20 >It's so hard to come-up with sensible values that the only sensible >thing to do is leave them on the same partition by default. It's not >exactly rocket science to add your own /home partition. I do agree to some extent.=A0 On the other hand, what's the 'a'uto key do n= ow?=A0 / seems a bit small, notice the OP's subject?=A0 I've never had this= problem, though...=20 Hmm.=A0 All food for thought.=A0=20 =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 03:48:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6CA1065670 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FCD8FC1E for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n9B3mhVS019593 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:48:43 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n9B3mhP0019592; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:48:43 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 778E7BE63; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:49:26 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <319011.88077.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (message from Richard Mahlerwein on Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT)) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. 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X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20091011024926.778E7BE63@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:49:26 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: conky calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:48:45 -0000 You can use the terminal standout codes to highlight today's date, but you need either the Linux compatibility stuff or a recent version of ncurses installed: #!/bin/ksh PATH=/usr/compat/linux/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin export PATH DAY=$(date +%d | sed 's/0\([123456789]\)/ \1/') SMSO=$(tput smso) RMSO=$(tput rmso) cal | sed -e 's/^/ /' -e "3,\$s/ ${DAY}/ ${SMSO}${DAY}${RMSO}/" exit 0 -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Letterman's top signs your cat is trying to kill you #9: To tune of Meow Mix song sings, "Kill kill kill kill, kill kill kill kill" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 04:24:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971F41065679 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224298FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so2064000ewy.43 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOB2Oj1ZoP+RhledS/CG3dh0YZN2nOS2RwaJfK5Lbx4=; b=Ev/UcKiTDUUVUBRjxsLRUZmLT1jeOWCyaaJejY4vyZH+0iY8sxcHK7I2Xff7mzkPTf tZNmFn+Tqui6SYTUQgHi6xA3zr5RZw15VgdhnPrgrkOsmAgCc7ER4RyaKFD9BLiVDJns EseGn2aYPe9u+BdSI9GHw7A4ASWoPOoOi3ZmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EkZpdfChR/vMv+0G0ONIulTBd0r8rCaLZHcYGwOj9/0diuoeF6xPDgTul8sXJMCQU2 LzQedDYHlYkeXeZIFfuxRCTCrRrPskfCwQv2gm7A1jlBWmm3dEj0O1TmQ/kD7pUsJZCi dJM8PEl4VKFj1HLG7SjUvxlrklET2mYLDONQ8= Received: by 10.211.161.22 with SMTP id n22mr2360667ebo.83.1255235048376; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm3664707eyz.8.2009.10.10.21.24.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:24:04 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091011052404.4227bf84@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <59022.94044.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <59022.94044.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:24:10 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > --- On Sat, 10/10/09, RW wrote: >=20 > >But it wouldn't actually be a ram disk, that's just just a misnomer > >that people, who ought to know better, are throwing around. It > >would probably be tmpfs. >=20 > Correction (or at least correction to precision) noted.=A0 I'd still > rather use it as RAM the regular way.=A0 :) You can't, there is no "regular way", it's not 1975 anymore: http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/ArchitectNotes If you allocate 1.5 x RAM to swap, your system will grind to a halt long before you half-fill it with conventional paging, so you might as well allow tmpfs to use a substantial amount to back /tmp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 08:11:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92FF1065695 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956D8FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9B89vJk010799 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:11:52 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20091011081151.GA98601@thought.org> References: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:11:57 -0000 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 12:26:25PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. > I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > > > If there any another other tools, I'm interested! > > That "hex code" rather looks like UTF-8. > > For conversion between character encodings I recommend recode > from the ports collection (ports/converters/recode). > For example, to convert file.txt from UTF-8 to ISO8859-15: > > $ recode utf8..iso8859-15 file.txt > > To preserve the previous file contents, do this: > > $ recode utf8..iso8859-15 new.txt recode works just fine, thanks. i'm not sure if openoffice asks to use 8859-1 or utf8, but yes, the text is interspersperced with bits of utf8. FWIW, I did check this on google before my post; still couldn't find anything that worked. and of course, above, with the " ' " i did try escaping the punctuation. my shell gave me problems regardless. dunno ... so i asked here:-) thanks to everyone, gary > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- > chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., > C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which > leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an > array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything > period, making each line a joyous adventure . > -- Tim Peters -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 12:31:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07D51065672 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845A98FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.156.146.21]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091011123143.MSBO25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:43 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (d75-156-146-21.abhsia.telus.net [75.156.146.21]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 9FF51364E3C22871 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4AD1D030.2020905@telus.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:44 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091010002414.AD5F81065742@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20091010002414.AD5F81065742@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Miro - BSD 8.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:31:44 -0000 Has anyone had luck getting Miro to run in BSD 8.X... I can see up to "checking movies folder"... no error... nothing... it just stops... and drops back to the prompt... don't see any errors in the logs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 13:31:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D3C1065693 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2841D8FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so2212919ewy.43 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=wIt2MPI9yfA240Gd57G//P43ix85Wkn60kv20GWnR7E=; b=Wt6K97kIk5VN1DjhITqfymjn6sbwAzFPJH3zl4sdRf24GhWV+dXBXm08bHyBDXLv/g k10YteTF8PXLT8aoZzgijvo09WSulx21C7XiZ+jK1toZlG/6EWUtGV7+f2QJ7N0fUVX6 M64D4N/H5HAVldvM/PSNVoihhcBamx/xwiMUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=aRa9mOsq/jFij/txqouWBH08EuBTlOr19UPzLMViC2r5R+dEFnz98WcTTkahOjjdRU e+AZxB8kxbzU+62nW2UduDnvigvXO/JCIvV42NTxwu9hGSlNpBkPOjoVU73ZmNQOhAQg M8GjYBpJki490fYqsadxcBPe6non0hS5bhpyw= Received: by 10.211.159.19 with SMTP id l19mr2915270ebo.43.1255267910258; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.2.2? (80-219-26-31.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.26.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm131920eyd.46.2009.10.11.06.31.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Anselm Strauss In-Reply-To: <744E86AA-8024-4A1D-903A-11B6177B4D95@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:31:48 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4836FC82-7B2D-48C5-83EE-3FFD0CDD3C9C@gmail.com> References: <744E86AA-8024-4A1D-903A-11B6177B4D95@gmail.com> To: Anselm Strauss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart mbr scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:31:51 -0000 Aha, GEOM_PART_MBR is not enabled by default in the 7.2 kernel. That changes with 8.0: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/DEFAULTS.diff?r1=1.10.8%3ARELENG_7_2&tr1=1.10.8.1&r2=1.19.2%3ARELENG_8&tr2=1.19.2.1 I recompiled my kernel, now it works! On Oct 10, 2009, at 22:08 , Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to partition a compact flash card with gpart. When I want > to create a new MBR scheme it always complains: > > -> gpart create -s mbr da0 > gpart: scheme 'mbr': Invalid argument > > The GPT scheme works fine: > > -> gpart create -s gpt da0 > da0 created > -> gpart show da0 > => 34 8027645 da0 GPT (3.8G) > 34 8027645 - free - (3.8G) > -> gpart destroy da0 > da0 destroyed > > The kernel driver seems to be loaded: > > -> kldstat -v | grep mbr > 278 g_mbr > 277 g_mbrext > > Does gpart in 7.2 not support MBR partitioning? > > > Cheers, > Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 14:18:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779051065679 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C78A8FC22 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61260 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2009 14:18:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255270722; bh=46b/lQY00pdFt2tPQACy0lXBdIqAu92WtGrqQ5jehYo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XxQKmhHcfe2fQVAZ5G3xMz7XZUNuw3d2SJ2m5hSYUCX6jq7JWToBOQIPwxRiAFUtv80oY5eYWQQOnGyHblaAitsyLGro6GuMaxsYm/eXkCEDv5ZWGwTzsOPzjVm+MGrIpLPPFHOpdMbrTQhTjwk5SZFEsaYPgF6N8TLurnIbIcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yLorIguIT49wFNXMchCnvHCDcZbM7GKpApB41PrNJ4/xefSzu2jCJqttzBJbDw3jNfKKUPx0/J4ErtL0u5MYZGu3h8w/kQSUVTU+niBDFhNH2Fms1nTVWbTSdyv5Ax+Kkf3nUUYHlgB678EK8HZ+nULTUsnB19VDlcQEyb2CpkY=; Message-ID: <391701.61251.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: elsRirQVM1mnmczpYfMIakxAFjXx2BNsOzyQeuRrtK7gI_2zPADC2tX2Whwy04_pXhip_JK9r_IMJfDpUxMxY_rdH_TebG7a5QFqVmD55flbIseVanFuiemi4.m6PgClo.lf8F1EDmWenHbcgEmIt0WonAf92ifFwcyUi89fn8XuZBn.Zbx1gCNQaaAUNKUb_Bkn2pzGfvdQ3_S76OvD0zvgCAExIOlMqVr2..l9xdMogbCnMGXNCeP14FvQP8nxVolagV4u9Jr0Bx3zpu5n0u0EYu9T8DgM4OWmGogHvFcZRnEer.AFB6dAsnndFUhu0Rr0bGoR4eFEjmIW3NKyB9XIXVA1wXHiQJx28oyYkWXc.caux1SaBE_uzo2qvYXfGg1DGZz1XpTlL2g76N8CNeY- Received: from [76.202.128.204] by web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:18:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:18:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: cdrecord returning inappropriate ioctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:18:43 -0000 I'm not sure when this started. I thought it might have started when I adde= d my RAID controller which has SCSI emulation too, but the error still occu= rs when I remove it. So I'm guessing it started when I upgraded to 8.0 RC1 = from 7 stable. I have a Pioneer DVD-RW. Burncd doesn't support it so I've always used cdre= cord, but a few days ago, it gave me this error: [root@bahamut ~]# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J=F6r= g Schilling cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot= open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=3Dhelp'. Camcontrol works fine. [root@bahamut ~]# camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass3) I tried using cdrecord with lun 3,0,0 as reported by camcontrol and got the= same error as with -scanbus. I'm thinking this is a bug with either cdreco= rd or the kernel, but I thought I'd check here first to make sure I haven't= missed something.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 14:24:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B821065692 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66C08FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A60A3C9AC; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9BEO01M004064; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:24:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:23:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David LeCount Message-Id: <20091011162359.8ced8985.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <391701.61251.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <391701.61251.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord returning inappropriate ioctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:03 -0000 The first thing that I've seen, allthough it may be completely unrelated, is this: On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:18:42 -0700 (PDT), David LeCount wrote: > So I'm guessing it started when I upgraded to 8.0 RC1 from 7 stable. ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ and then > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) [...] ^^^ Maybe - just maybe - it's neccessary to recompile cdrecord? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 15:04:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95783106568F for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553F88FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9BF41gd040364; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:04:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9BF41Yk040361; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:04:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:04:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091011162359.8ced8985.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <391701.61251.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20091011162359.8ced8985.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: David LeCount , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord returning inappropriate ioctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:04:06 -0000 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Polytropon wrote: > The first thing that I've seen, allthough it may be completely > unrelated, is this: > > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:18:42 -0700 (PDT), David LeCount wrote: >> So I'm guessing it started when I upgraded to 8.0 RC1 from 7 stable. > ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ > and then > >> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.0) [...] > ^^^ > Maybe - just maybe - it's neccessary to recompile cdrecord? After a major version upgrade, it's necessary to rebuild all ports. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 15:32:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AEB106566B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF1F8FC21 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97529 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2009 15:32:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255275129; bh=A5tqTA/MhC/GKv7i5b7PBAAquxHsqtcEZMfi80XMxbs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q4iJV8rHj6RvmMGZk17ua7ChW2F7O2zLe4a9aiHW3Ldu936dFH4QvB/bdVeiiV0VYtcCk9qb4j94lJ+pq9kSYR91Qtb4LEFbXXKm6H0aRb2yX+PvM4RhJLAO1PNZQKNg/KRxG10BVrIM3tz8LY8VX9YWdj8WvSjHTk/MwvKTOyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BCdSG+u/fBDvevbISXbBauENkB03X6jo1qD++rHag+8iC+PZvZH6tuINsO6KczF+VT/sky1UivUhzgr01UaO3QXCdEfWxCi3ZMxFb6MhOrkS8j3t1r/HurtVj9baKyFv8uu18GVvXcdC9bJzKPZsDH+YSFIcq3TaLxFmixmYsyA=; Message-ID: <9836.97426.qm@web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Qf25j4AVM1mz0TpAMAOQwhDfARHRgHF_cJITSdgt_At25bFdJXIeaesfvP14B2E6cNugvhfJ7kuQqhg5XYmL2dqQdC2PVikbc7T0lQcb8o7XfFfi8GY4OesVmtl7UJEV6L9oioUMiRPpqeq5yeZJNh78hSeTAn3YGH680kR672NHr8lqMj.M_vS7x9wXDoIlSpyWA2CruPKguKz0fRX9wn1gEsnO1Nm.JwZehyRZieq49JEdSeMcCzcd3uVKvgkYRDoxuvUnmiujtiqVTW6dAR6MV16OR2YaKRNVXOHt6z7MbgKKxOT6U.SLpjepj_F.w0fz5FzlPOSCzAMwBsxYd3KRvyZGO4KFVBj7uTn50Ca1nBV5fpXP0EZmPkd4WluhbxR2KH8zWE5fvp3Zlq88Wd.hfmA- Received: from [76.202.128.204] by web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:32:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091011162359.8ced8985.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: cdrecord returning inappropriate ioctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:32:10 -0000 > Maybe - just maybe - it's neccessary to recompile > cdrecord? I knew it would be something simple I missed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 17:05:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C03106566B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from sv4.hmnoc.net (sv4.hmnoc.net [63.247.76.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F09C8FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [187.78.191.87] (port=56634 helo=papi.localnet) by sv4.hmnoc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mx1rQ-0007xA-D5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:05:33 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:05:08 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-RC1; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> In-Reply-To: <20091011015149.GA48407@comcast.net.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910111405.08542.mlobo@digiart.art.br> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sv4.hmnoc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - digiart.art.br Subject: Re: ASUS M4A78T-E Motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:05:34 -0000 On Saturday 10 October 2009 22:51:49 Bryan Cassidy wrote: > Hi, I am in the process of building a new PC and I am building this > machine (one of three... second will be OpenBSD Firewall for FreeBSD and a > third one for Windows.. you know games and all that stuff) and I am > wondering if I will have any problems with this motherboard amd its > chipset. North Bridge is AMD 790GX and South Bridge is AMD SB750. it comes > with a VIA VT1708S onboard soundcard and the handbook states the VIA > VT1708 is supported so I am hoping it is the case with this one. Second, > ATI Radeon HD 3300 onboard video. I keep coming up with info that states > it is suppported and last is the Atheros L1E onboard LAN card. > > I will give you a rundown of what I want to do and maybe I can get some > advice on hardware and how I approach this. I mainly use FreeBSD for my > daily machine because I just enjoy using FreeBSD and it is just what I > need for a day to day use. I have a 23" LCD right now hookup via VGA on my > laptop and when the machine I am building is done I would like to run a > triple LCD setup. I've always wanted to run OpenBSD as a firewall and so I > would like to build a basic machine with no sound, and no video to serve > this purpose. I would like to also run Apache and run my own website. The > third machine for Windows I might just partition one of my hard drives (I > will be getting 3 Seagate Barracuda LP ST32000542AS 2TB hard drives. Total > 6 TBs.) and put Windows on it and just by another video card for extreme > gaming or something. I am kinda new to building my own PC so some opinions > on this would be greatly appreciated. > > Also, as a side note, the specs above would be just to get it started and I > would eventually add my own PCI NIC card, PCI sound, and PCI Video card. > Any and all thoughts are welcome. Thanks for any help. > > hoping that everything will work out of box with FreeBSD. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Bryan; I think I have exactly the same MoBo. ASRock AOD790GX. I am running FreeBSD 8.0 RC1 amd64 and everything is working fine here. I use it as my desktop. I've got it dual booting with XP because I need it for my Audio projects. I have an extra PCI sound card on it because of its MIDI port. In fact I use it as my main sound output on FreeBSD. I also have another sound card but FreeBSD doesnt have drivers for It but I only use it in XP anyway. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 17:54:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427CE10656DE; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0BA8FC0C; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9BHsTe4004836; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 GMT (envelope-from danger@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from danger@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9BHsTI8004835; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 GMT (envelope-from danger) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 +0000 From: Daniel Gerzo To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20091011175428.GA3626@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Status Reports April - September, 2009 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: monthly@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:54:29 -0000 FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Introduction This report covers FreeBSD related projects between April and September 2009. During that time a lot of work has been done on wide variety of projects, including the Google Summer of Code projects. The BSDCan conference was held in Ottawa, CA, in May. The EuroBSDCon conference was held in Cambridge, UK, in September. Both events were very successful. A new major version of FreeBSD, 8.0 is to be released soon. If you are wondering what's new in this long-awaited release, read Ivan Voras' excellent summary. Thanks to all the reporters for the excellent work! We hope you enjoy the reading. Please note that the next deadline for submissions covering reports between October and December 2009 is January 15th, 2010. __________________________________________________________________ Google Summer of Code * About Google Summer of Code 2009 * BSD-licensed iconv (Summer of Code 2009) * BSD-licensed text-processing tools (Summer of Code 2008) * Ext2fs Status report (Summer of Code 2009) * libnetstat(3) - networking statistics (Summer of Code 2009) * pefs - stacked cryptographic filesystem (Summer of Code 2009) Projects * BSD# Project * Clang replacing GCC in the base system * FreeBSD TDM Framework * Grand Central Dispatch - FreeBSD port * libprocstat(3) - process statistics * New BSD licensed debugger * NFSv4 ACLs * The Newcons project * VirtualBox on FreeBSD FreeBSD Team Reports * FreeBSD Bugbusting Team * FreeBSD KDE Team * FreeBSD Ports Management Team * Release Engineering Status Report * The FreeBSD Foundation Status Report Network Infrastructure * Enhancing the FreeBSD TCP Implementation * Modular Congestion Control * Network Stack Virtualization * Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Kernel * FreeBSD/ZFS * hwpmc for MIPS Documentation * The FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project * The FreeBSD German Documentation Project * The FreeBSD Hungarian Documentation Project * The FreeBSD Spanish Documentation Project Architectures * FreeBSD/sparc64 Ports * FreeBSD Gecko Project * Portmaster - utility to assist users with managing ports * Valgrind suite on FreeBSD Miscellaneous * EuroBSDcon 2009 * FreeBSD Developer Summit, Cambridge UK * New approach to the locale database * The FreeBSD Forums __________________________________________________________________ About Google Summer of Code 2009 URL: http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/freebsd URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2009Projects Contact: Brooks Davis Contact: Tim Kientzle Contact: Robert Watson 2009 was The FreeBSD Project's fifth year of participation in the Google Summer of Code. We had a total of 17 successful projects. Some GSoC code will be shipping with FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE and others will be integrated into future releases. The FreeBSD GSoC admin team would like to thank Google and our students and mentors of another great year! __________________________________________________________________ BSD# Project URL: http://code.google.com/p/bsd-sharp/ URL: http://www.mono-project.org/ Contact: Romain TartiÄre The BSD# Project is devoted to porting the Mono .NET framework and applications to the FreeBSD operating system. During the past year, the BSD# Team continued to track the Mono development and the lang/mono port have almost always been up-to-date (we however had to skip mono-2.2 because of some regression issues in this release). Most of our patches have been merged in the mono trunk upstream, and should be included in the upcoming mono-2.6 release. In the meantime, a few more .NET related ports have been updated or added to the FreeBSD ports tree. These ports include: * www/xsp and www/mod_mono that make it possible to use FreeBSD for hosting ASP.NET application; * lang/boo, a CLI-targeted programming language similar to Python; * lang/mono-basic, the Visual Basic .NET Framework for Mono; * devel/monodevelop, an Integrated Development Environment for .NET; * and much more... Open tasks: 1. Test mono ports and send feedback (we are especially interested in tests where NOPORTDOCS / WITH_DEBUG is enabled). 2. Port the mono-debugger to FreeBSD. 3. Build a debug live-image of FreeBSD so that Mono hackers without a FreeBSD box can help us fixing bugs more efficiently. __________________________________________________________________ BSD-licensed iconv (Summer of Code 2009) URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/G%C3%A1borSoC2009 Contact: Gábor Kövesdán The code has been extracted from NetBSD and has been transformed into an independent shared library. The basic encodings are well supported. Almost all forward conversions (foo -> UTF-32) are compatible with GNU but the reverse ones are not so accurate because of GNU's advanced transliteration. Some extra encodings have also been added. There are two modules, which segfault; they need some debugging. I can keep working on this project as part of my BSc thesis, so I hope to be able to solve the remaining issues. Improved GNU compatibility is also very desired (extra command line options for iconv(1), iconvctl(), private interfaces, etc.). Open tasks: 1. Fix segfaults in Big5 and HZ modules 2. Improve transliteration in reverse encodings 3. Improve GNU compatibility by implementing extra features 4. Verify POSIX compatibility 5. Verify GNU compatibility 6. Check performance __________________________________________________________________ BSD-licensed text-processing tools (Summer of Code 2008) URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/G%C3%A1borSoC2008 Contact: Gábor Kövesdán This project was started as part of Google Summer of Code 2008 but there is still a bit of work to complete some missing parts. The BSD-licensed grep implementation is feature-complete and has a good level of GNU compatibility. Our only current concern about the BSD-licensed version is to improve its performance. The GNU variant is much more complex, has about 8 KSLOC, while BSD grep is tiny, has only 1.5 KSLOC. GNU uses some shortcuts and optimizations to speed-up calls to the regex library; that is why it is significantly faster. My point of view is that such optimizations must be implemented in the regex library, keeping the dependent utilities clean and easy to read. BSD grep is so tiny that there is hardly any optimization opportunity by simplifying the code, so the regex library is the next important TODO. There is another issue with the current regex library. It does not support some invalid regular expressions, which work in GNU. We need to maintain compatibility, so we cannot just drop this feature. Actually, BSD grep is linked to the GNU regex library to maintain this feature but due to the lack of the mentioned shortcuts, it is still slower than GNU. Anyway, if we can live with this little performance hit until we get a modern regex library, I think grep is ready to enter HEAD. As for the regex library, NetBSD's result of the last SoC is worth taking a look. The sort utility has been rewritten from scratch. The existing BSD-licensed implementation could not deal with wide characters by design. The new implementation is still lacking some features but is quite complete. There is a performance issue, though. Sorting is a typical algorithmic subject but I am not an algorithmic expert, so my implementation is not completely optimal. Some help would be welcome with this part. The bc/dc utilities have been ported from OpenBSD. They pass OpenBSD's and GNU's regression tests but they arrived too late to catch 8.X, so they will go to HEAD after the release. Open tasks: 1. Improve sort's sorting and file merging algorithms 2. Complete missing features for sort 3. Get a modern regex library for FreeBSD __________________________________________________________________ Clang replacing GCC in the base system URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang Contact: Ed Schouten Contact: Roman Divacky Contact: Brooks Davis Contact: Pawel Worach The clang@FreeBSD team presents the status of clang/LLVM being able to compile FreeBSD system. The current status is: * i386 - kernel boots, world needs little hacks but works * amd64 - kernel boots, world needs little hacks but works * ppc - broken because of unknown RTLD bug * other - unknown All other platforms are untested. A lot has happened over the spring/summer: amd64 got proper mcmodel=kernel support, compiler-rt has been introduced (paving the way for libgcc replacement), we have run two experimental port builds to see how clang does there. The C++ support is able to parse devd.cc without warnings. We have got the kernel working with -O2. FreeBSD has been promoted to be an officially supported plaform in LLVM. As a result of all this work, many parts of FreeBSD that did not compile before now build without problems. Open tasks: 1. The "ClangBSD" branch of FreeBSD got a little stale and has not been updated for a while. 2. We also need to get some important fixes into LLVM to get libc compiling and some other smaller issues. 3. We can still appreciate more testers on minor platforms (mostly on ARM, PPC and MIPS, but testing on other platforms is also welcome). __________________________________________________________________ Enhancing the FreeBSD TCP Implementation URL: http://caia.swin.edu.au/freebsd/etcp09/ URL: http://caia.swin.edu.au/urp/newtcp/ URL: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/projects.shtml URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~lstewart/patches/tcp_ffcaia2008/ Contact: Lawrence Stewart TCP appropriate byte counting (RFC 3465) support has been merged into the FreeBSD 8 branch and will ship in FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE. The reassembly queue auto-tuning and SIFTR work was not ready in time to safely integrate for 8.0-RELEASE. Padding has been added to necessary TCP structs to facilitate MFCing features back to the 8-STABLE branch after 8.0 is released. Candidate patches against FreeBSD-CURRENT will be ready for wider testing in the coming weeks. The freebsd-net mailing list will be solicited for testing/feedback when everything is ready. Open tasks: 1. Solicit review/testing and integrate the ALQ kld and variable length message support patch into FreeBSD-CURRENT. 2. Solicit review/testing and integrate the SIFTR tool into FreeBSD-CURRENT. 3. Complete dynamic reassembly queue auto-tuning patch for FreeBSD-CURRENT. 4. Fix an identified bug in the SACK implementation's fast retransmit/fast recovery behavior. 5. Profit! __________________________________________________________________ EuroBSDcon 2009 URL: http://2009.eurobsdcon.org/ URL: http://2010.eurobsdcon.org/ Contact: Sam Smith Contact: Robert Watson EuroBSDcon 2009 happened in Cambridge, with over 160 users, developers, friends and others. Slides, papers and audio are now up on the website for those who could not make it to Cambridge. Next year's event in 2010 will take place in Karlsruhe from 8 to 10 October 2010. If you are interested in what you missed in 2009, or to join the mailing list so you do not miss out next year, visit http://2009.eurosbsdcon.org. __________________________________________________________________ Ext2fs Status report (Summer of Code 2009) URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SOC2009AdityaSarawgi Contact: Aditya Sarawgi FreeBSD's ext2fs had some parts under GPL. The aim of my project was to rewrite those parts and free ext2fs from GPL. I have been successful in rewriting the parts and NetBSD's ext2fs was a great help in this. Certain critical parts under GPL were also removed due to which the write performance suffered. I also implemented Orlov Block Allocator for ext2fs. Currently I am planning to make ext2fs Multiprocessor Safe (MPSAFE). My work resides in truncs_ext2fs branch of Perforce. Open tasks: 1. Ext4 support for FreeBSD 2. Directory indexing for ext2fs 3. Journaling in ext2fs using gjournal __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD Bugbusting Team URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/support.html#gnats URL: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/BugBusting URL: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~linimon/studies/prs/ URL: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~linimon/studies/prs/recommended_prs.html Contact: Gavin Atkinson Contact: Mark Linimon Contact: Remko Lodder Contact: Volker Werth We continue to classify PRs as they arrive, adding 'tags' to the subject lines corresponding to the kernel subsystem involved, or man page references for userland PRs. These tags, in turn, produce lists of PRs sorted both by tag and by manpage. The list of PRs recommended for committer evaluation by the Bugbusting Team continues to receive new additions. This list contains PRs, mostly with patches, that the Bugbusting Team feel are probably ready to be committed as-is, or are probably trivially resolved in the hands of a committer with knowledge of the particular subsystem. All committers are invited to take a look at this list whenever they have a spare 5 minutes and wish to close a PR. A full list of all the automatically generated reports is also available at one of the cited URLs. Any recommendations for reports which not currently exist but which would be beneficial are welcomed. Gavin Atkinson gave a presentation on "The PR Collection Status" at the EuroBSDCon 2009 DevSummit, and discussed with other participants several other ideas to make the PR database more useful and usable. Several good ideas came from this, and will hopefully lead to more useful tools in the near future. Discussions also took place on how it may be possible to automatically classify non-ports PRs with a view towards notifying interested parties, although investigations into this have not yet begun. Mark Linimon also continues attempting to define the general problem and investigating possible new workflow models, and presented work on this at BSDCan 2009. Since the last status report, the number of open bugs has increased to around the 5900 mark, partially because of an increased focus on getting more information into the existing PRs, in an attempt to make sure all the information required is now available. As a result, although the number of open PRs has increased, they are hopefully of better quality. As always, more help is appreciated, and committers and non-committers alike are always invited to join us on #freebsd-bugbusters on EFnet and help close stale PRs or commit patches from valid PRs. Open tasks: 1. Work on suggestions from developers who were at the EuroBSDCon DevSummit. 2. Try to find ways to get more committers helping us with closing the PRs that the team has already analyzed. __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD Developer Summit, Cambridge UK URL: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/200909DevSummit Contact: Robert Watson Around 70 FreeBSD developers and guests attended the FreeBSD developer summit prior to EuroBSDCon 2009 in Cambridge, UK. Hosted at the University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory, the workshop-style event consisted of prepared presentations, as well as group hacking and discussion sessions. Talks covered topics including 802.11 mesh networking, virtual network stacks and kernels, a new BSD-licensed debugger, benchmarking, bugbusting, NetFPGA, a port of Apple's GCD (Grand Central Dispatch) to FreeBSD, security policy work, cryptographic signatures, FreeBSD.org system administration, time geeks, a new console driver, and the FreeBSD subversion migration. Slides for many talks are now available on the wiki page. A good time was had by all, including a punting outing on the River Cam! __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD Gecko Project URL: https://trillian.chruetertee.ch/freebsd-gecko/wiki/TODO Contact: Beat Gaetzi Contact: Martin Wilke Contact: Andreas Tobler Andreas Tobler made the classic mistake of sending us a lot of powerpc and sparc64 related patches. The usual punishment, of giving him a commit bit to the Gecko repository, has been applied. We currently have some old ports in the ports tree: * www/mozilla is 5 year old now, no longer supported upstream, and has a lot of security vulnerabilities. We can use www/seamonkey instead. * www/xulrunner is superseeded by www/libxul. A patch that includes the following changes has been tested on pointyhat and is ready for commit: * Remove references to www/mozilla/Makefile.common and www/mozilla/bsd.gecko.mk * Switch USE_GECKO= xulrunner firefox mozilla to USE_GECKO= libxul and remove www/xulrunner We are also working on Firefox 3.6 (Alpha 2), Thunderbird 3.0 (Beta 4), new libxul 1.9.1.3 and Seamonkey 2.0 (Beta 2) ports. All of them are already committed to our Gecko repository. A current status and todo list can be found at http://trillian.chruetertee.ch/freebsd-gecko/wiki/TODO. Open tasks: 1. Remove mozilla, xulrunner and firefox2 from the ports tree. 2. The www/firefox35 port should be moved to www/firefox. 3. The old (and somewhat stale) Gecko providers mozilla, nvu, xulrunner, flock and firefox also need to be removed. __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD KDE Team URL: http://freebsd.kde.org URL: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/category/kde/ URL: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/tabthorpe/category/kde Contact: Thomas Abthorpe Contact: Max Brazhnikov Contact: Martin Wilke Since the spring, the FreeBSD KDE team has been busy upgrading KDE from 4.2.0 up through to 4.3.1. As part of the ongoing maintenance of KDE, the team also updated Qt4 from 4.4.3 through to 4.5.2 We added two new committers/maintainers to the team, Kris Moore (kmoore@) and Dima Panov (fluffy@). We also granted enhanced area51 access to contributors Alberto Villa and Raphael Kubo da Costa. Alberto has been our key contributor updating and testing Qt 4.6.0-tp1. Raphael is a KDE developer, who has become our Gitorious liaison, he has been responsible for getting FreeBSD Qt patches merged in upstream. Markus Brüffer (markus@) spent a lot of time patching widgets and system plugins so they would work under FreeBSD. We would like to thank him for all his effort! Open tasks: 1. Update to Qt 4.6.0 2. Update to KDE 4.4.0 3. Work with our userbase on fixing an EOL for KDE3 in the ports tree __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD Ports Management Team URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing-ports/ URL: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/index.html URL: http://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/index.html URL: http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com Contact: Mark Linimon The ports count has soared to over 20,700. The PR count had been driven below 800 by some extraordinary effort, but once again is back to its usual count of around 900. We are currently building packages for amd64-6, amd64-7, amd64-8, i386-6, i386-7, i386-8, sparc64-7, and sparc64-8. There have been preliminary runs of i386-9; however, to be able to continue builds on -9, we will either need to find places to host a number of new machines, or drop package building for -6. The mailing list discussion of the latter proved quite controversial. We have added some new i386 machines to help speed up the builds, but this only makes up for the disk failures on some of our older, slower, i386 nodes. We also appreciate the loan of more package build machines from several committers, including pgollucci@, gahr@, erwin@, Boris Kochergin, and Craig Butler. The portmgr@ team has also welcomed new members Ion-Mihai Tetcu (itetcu@) and Martin Wilke (miwi@). We also thank departing member Kirill Ponomarew (krion@) for his long service. Ion-Mihai has spent much time working on a system that does automatic Quality Assurance on new commits, called QAT. A second tinderbox called QATty has helped us to fix many problems, especially those involving custom PREFIX and LOCALBASE settings, and documentation inclusion options. Ports conformance to documented features / non-default configuration will follow. Between pav and miwi, over 2 dozen experimental ports runs have been completed and committed. We have added 5 new committers since the last report, and 2 older ones have rejoined. Open tasks: 1. We are currently trying to set up ports tinderboxes that can be made available to committers for pre-testing; those who can loan machines for this should contact Ion-Mihai (itetcu@) with details regarding the hardware and bandwidth. 2. Most of the remaining ports PRs are "existing port/PR assigned to committer". Although the maintainer-timeout policy is helping to keep the backlog down, we are going to need to do more to get the ports in the shape they really need to be in. 3. Although we have added many maintainers, we still have almost 4,700 unmaintained ports (see, for instance, the list on portsmon). (The percentage is down to 22%.) We are always looking for dedicated volunteers to adopt at least a few unmaintained ports. As well, the packages on amd64 and sparc64 lag behind i386, and we need more testers for those. __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD TDM Framework Contact: Rafal Czubak Contact: Michal Hajduk This work's purpose is a generic and flexible framework for systems equipped with Time Division Multiplexing (TDM) units, often found on embedded telecom chips. The framework is designed to support various controllers and many types of TDM channels e.g. voiceband, sound and miscellaneous data channels. Currently, voiceband infrastructure is being developed on Marvell RD-88F6281 reference board. It will serve as an example of how to use the TDM framework for other channel types. The direct objective of using TDM with voiceband channels is bringing a FreeBSD based VoIP system, capable of bridging analog telephone world with digital IP telephony. Together with third party VoIP software (e.g. Asterisk), the design can serve as VoIP Private Branch Exchange (PBX). Current state highlights: * TDM controller interface * TDM channel interface * TDM channel API for kernel modules * codec interface * voiceband channel character device driver * TDM controller driver for Marvell Kirkwood and Discovery SoCs * Si3215 SLIC driver * Si3050 DAA driver Open tasks: 1. Develop demo application showing example usage of voiceband channel. 2. Integrate voiceband infrastructure with Zaptel/DAHDI telephony hardware drivers. __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD/sparc64 Contact: Marius Strobl Noteworthy developments regarding FreeBSD/sparc64 since the last Status Reports are: * Cas(4), a driver for Sun Cassini/Cassini+, as well as National Semiconductor DP83065 Saturn Gigabit NICs has been committed and thus will be part of FreeBSD beginning with 8.0-RELEASE and 7.3-RELEASE, respectively. This means that the on-board NICs found in Fire V440, as well as the add-on cards based on these chips, are now supported, including on non-sparc64 machines. Unfortunately, the cas(4) driver triggers what seem to be secondary problems with the on-board NICs found in B100 blades and Fire V480, which due to lack of access to such systems could not be fixed so far. * Initial support for sun4u machines based on the "Fire" Host-PCI-Express bridge like Fire V215, V245, etc. has been completed (including support for the on-board ATA controller, which caused several problems at first, and MSI/MSI-X). Some code like the quirk handling for the ALi/ULi chips found in these machines needs to be revisited though and no stability tests have been conducted so far. If all goes well, the code will hit HEAD some time after FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE has been released. In theory, machines based on the "Oberon" Host-PCI-Express bridge, at least for the most part, should also be supported with these changes, but due to lack of access to a Mx000 series machine the code could not be tested with these so far. * Some bugs in the snd_t4dwave(4) driver have been fixed, as well as some special handling for sparc64 has been added so it does 32-bit DMA and now generally works with the on-board ALi M5451 found for example in Blade 100 and Blade 1500. Unfortunately, it was only tested to work correctly in two out of three Blade 100. Why it still does not work correctly in the remaining one is currently unknown but at least no longer causes IOMMU-panics so testing snd_t4dwave(4) on sparc64 is no longer harmful. These changes will be part of FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE and 7.3-RELEASE. * Ata-marvell(4) has been fixed to work on sparc64 (actually also on anything that is not x86 with less than 4GB of RAM). These fixes will be part of FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE and 7.3-RELEASE. * A proper and machine-independent fix for the old problem that the loader leaves the NIC opened by the firmware, which could lead to panics during boot when netbooting, has been developed but not committed yet. Open tasks: __________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD/ZFS Contact: Pawel Dawidek We believe that the ZFS file system is now production-ready in FreeBSD 8.0. Most (if not all) reported bugs were fixed and ZFS is no longer tagged as experimental. There is also ongoing work in Perforce to bring the latest ZFS version (v19) to FreeBSD. Open tasks: 1. Download 8.0 release candidates and test, test, test and report any problems to the freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org mailing list. __________________________________________________________________ Grand Central Dispatch - FreeBSD port URL: http://libdispatch.macosforge.org/ Contact: Robert Watson Contact: Stacey Son Contact: libdispatch mailing list We have ported libdispatch, Apple's Grand Central Dispatch event and concurrency framework to FreeBSD: * Added new kqueue primitives required to support GCD, such as EVFILT_USER and EV_TRIGGER * Created autoconf and automake build framework for libdispatch * Modified libdispatch to use POSIX semaphores instead of Mach semaphores * Adapted libdispatch to use portable POSIX time routines Jordan Hubbard has also prepared a blocks-aware clang compiler package for FreeBSD. When compiled with clang, libdispatch provides blocks-based, as well as function-based callbacks. The port was presented at the FreeBSD Developer Summit in Cambridge, UK in September, and slides are online on the devsummit wiki page. A FreeBSD port is now available in the Ports Collection. After FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE has shipped, the new kqueue primitives will be MFC'd so that libdispatch works out of the box on FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE. Open tasks: 1. Complete porting of libdispatch test suite to FreeBSD. 2. Investigate pthread work queue implementation for FreeBSD. 3. Evaluate performance impact of some machine-dependent and OS-dependent optimizations present in the Mac OS X version of libdispatch to decide if they should be done for other platforms and OS's. 4. Explore whether FreeBSD base operating system tools would benefit from being modified to use libdispatch. __________________________________________________________________ hwpmc for MIPS URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips/UBNT-RouterStationPro Contact: George Neville-Neil Currently working on board bringup. I have looked over the docs for how MIPS provides performance counters and will begin adding code soon. __________________________________________________________________ libnetstat(3) - networking statistics (Summer of Code 2009) URL: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/PGJSoc2009 URL: http://p4web.freebsd.org/@md=d&cd=//&c=McZ@//depot/projects/soc2009/pgj _libstat/?ac=83 Contact: Gábor Páli The libnetstat(3) project provides a user-space library API to monitor networking functions with the following benefits: * ABI-robust interface making use of accessor functions in order to divorce monitoring applications from kernel or user ABI changes. * Supports running 32-bit monitoring tools on top of a 64-bit kernel. * Improved consistency for both kvm(3) and sysctl(3) when retrieving information. The supported abstractions are as follows: * Active sockets and socket buffers * Network interfaces and multicast interfaces * mbuf(9) statistics * bpf(4) statistics * Routing statistics, routing tables, multicast routing * Protocol-dependent statistics There is a sample application, called nettop(8), which provides a simple ncurses-based top(1)-like interface for monitoring active connections and network buffer allocations via the library. A modified version of netstat(1) has also been created to use libnetstat(3) as much as possible. __________________________________________________________________ libprocstat(3) - process statistics URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/libprocstat/ Contact: Stanislav Sedov Contact: Ulf Lilleengen The libprocstat project is an ongoing effort to develop a library that can be used to retrieve information about running processes and open files in the uniform and platform-independent way both from a running system or from core files. This will facilitate the implementation of file- or process-monitoring applications like lsof(1), fstat(1), fuser, etc. The libprocstat repository contains a preliminary version of the library. It also includes rewrites of the fstat and the fuser utilities ported to use this library instead of retrieving all the required information via the kvm(3) interface; one of the important advantages of the versions that use libprocstat is that these utilities are ABI independent. Open tasks: 1. Implement KVM-based namecache lookup to retrieve filesystem paths associated with file descriptors and VM objects. 2. Analyze possible ways of exporting file and process information from the kernel in an extensible and ABI-independent way. __________________________________________________________________ Modular Congestion Control URL: http://caia.swin.edu.au/urp/newtcp/ URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/tcp_cc_8.x/ Contact: Lawrence Stewart The patch has received some significant rototilling in the past few months to prepare it for merging to FreeBSD-CURRENT. Additionally, I completed an implementation of the CUBIC congestion control algorithm to complement the existing NewReno and H-TCP algorithm implementations already available. I have one further intrusive change to make, which will allow congestion control modules to be shared between the TCP and SCTP stacks. Once this is complete, I will be soliciting for review/testing in the hope of committing the patch to FreeBSD-CURRENT in time to be able to backport it for 8.1-RELEASE. Open tasks: 1. Abstract the congestion control specific variables out of the TCP and SCTP control blocks into a new struct that can be passed into the API instead of the control block itself. __________________________________________________________________ Network Stack Virtualization URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Image URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/200909DevSummit Contact: Bjoern A. Zeeb Contact: Marko Zec Contact: Robert Watson The network stack virtualization project aims at extending the FreeBSD kernel to maintain multiple independent instances of networking state. This allows for networking independence between jail environment, each maintaining its private network interfaces, IPv4 and IPv6 network and port address space, routing tables, IPSec configuration, firewalls, and more. During the last months the remaining pieces of the VIMAGE work were merged by Marko, Julian and Bjoern. Robert Watson developed a vnet allocator to overcome ABI issues. Jamie Gritton merged his hierachical jail framework that now also is the management interface for virtual network stacks. During the FreeBSD Developer Summit that took place at EuroBSDCon 2009 in Cambridge, UK, people virtualized more code. As a result SCTP and another accept filter were virtualized and more people became familiar with the design of VImage and the underlying concepts. Finally getting more hands involved was a crucial first step for the long term success of kernel virtualization. The next steps will be to finish the network stack virtualization, generalize the allocator framework before thinking of virtualizing further subsystems and to update the related documentation. Along with that a proper jail management framework will be worked on. Long term goals, amongst others, will be to virtualize more subsystems like SYS-V IPC, better privilege handling, and resource limits. In the upcoming FreeBSD 8.0 Release, vnets are treated as an experimental feature. As a result, they are not yet recommended for use in production environments. There was lots of time spent to finalize the infrastructure for vnets though, so that further changes can be merged and we are aiming to have things production ready for 8.2. In case you want to help to achieve this goal, feel free to contact us and support or help virtualizing outstanding parts like two firewalls, appletalk, netipx, ... as well as generating regression tests. __________________________________________________________________ New approach to the locale database URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/LocaleNewApproach URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/edwin/locale Contact: Edwin Groothuis Contact: i18n mailinglist Problem: Over the years the FreeBSD locale database (share/colldef, share/monetdef, share/msgdef, share/numericdef, share/timedef) has accumulated a total of 165 definitions (language - country-code - character-set triplets). The contents of the files for Western European languages are often low-ASCII but for Eastern European and Asian languages partly or fully high-ASCII. Without knowing how to display or interpret the character-sets, it is difficult to make sure by the general audience that the local language (language - country-code) definitions are displayed properly in various character-sets. Suggested approach: With the combination of the data in the Unicode project (whose goal is to define all the possible written characters and symbols on this planet) and the Common Locale Data Repository (whose goal is to document all the different data and definitions needed for the locale database), we can easily keep track of the data, without the need of being able to display the data in the required character sets or understand them fully when updates are submitted by third parties. Current status: Conversion of share/monetdef, share/msgdef, share/numericdef, share/timedef to the new design is completed. The Makefile infrastructure is converted. Regression checks are done. Most of the tools are in place, waiting on the import of bsdiconv to the base system. Open tasks: 1. At this moment the system is not self-hosted yet, because of the lack of an iconv-kind of program in the base operating system. Gabor@ is working on bsdiconv as a GSoC project and once that has been imported we will be able to perform a clean install from the definitions in Unicode text format to the required formats and character sets. __________________________________________________________________ New BSD licensed debugger URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/TheBsdDebugger URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~dfr/ngdb.git URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/200909DevSummit?action=AttachFile&do=view&targe t=NGDB-200909.pdf Contact: Doug Rabson <> I have been working recently on writing a new debugger, primarily for the FreeBSD platform. For various reasons, I have been writing it in a relatively obscure C-like language called D. So far, I have a pretty useful (if a little raw at the edges) command line debugger which supports ELF, Dwarf debugging information and (currently) 32 bit FreeBSD and Linux. The engine includes parsing and evaluation of arbitrary C expressions along with the usual debugging tools such as breakpoints, source code listing, single-step etc. All the code is new and BSD licensed. Currently, the thing supports userland debugging of i386 targets via ptrace and post-mortem core file debugging of the same. I will be adding amd64 support real soon (TM) and maybe support for GDB's remote debugging protocol later. __________________________________________________________________ NFSv4 ACLs URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/NFSv4_ACLs Contact: Edward Tomasz Napierala During Google Summer of Code 2008, I have implemented native support for NFSv4 ACLs for both ZFS and UFS. Most of the code has already been merged to CURRENT. NFSv4 ACLs are unconditionally enabled in ZFS and the usual tools, like getfacl(1) and setfacl(1) can be used to view and change them. I plan to merge the remaining bits (UFS support) this month. It should be possible to MFC it in order to ship in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE. Open tasks: 1. UFS changes review 2. Support for NFSv4 ACLs in tar(1) __________________________________________________________________ pefs - stacked cryptographic filesystem (Summer of Code 2009) URL: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/gleb/ URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SOC2009GlebKurtsov Contact: Gleb Kurtsou Contact: Stanislav Sedov Pefs is a kernel level filesystem for transparently encrypting files on top of other filesystems (like zfs or ufs). It adds no extra information into files (unlike others), doesn't require cipher block sized io operations, supports per directory/file keys and key chaining, uses unique per file tweak for encryption. Supported algorithms: AES, Camellia, Salsa20. The code is ready for testing. Open tasks: 1. Implement encrypted name lookup/readir cache 2. Optimize sparse files handling and file resizing __________________________________________________________________ Portmaster - utility to assist users with managing ports URL: http://dougbarton.us/portmaster.html Contact: Doug Barton I am currently seeking funding for further development work on portmaster. There are several features that are regularly requested by the community (such as support for installing packages) that I would very much like to implement but that will take more time than I can reasonably volunteer to implement correctly. There is information about the funding proposal available at the link above. Meanwhile I have recently completed another round of bug fixes and feature enhancements. The often-requested ability to specify the -x (exclude) option more than once on the command line was added in version 2.12. Also in that version I added the --list-origins option to make it easier to reinstall ports after a major version upgrade, or install the same set of ports on another system. Open tasks: 1. See the funding proposal. __________________________________________________________________ Release Engineering Status Report URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/releng/ Contact: Release Engineering Team The Release Engineering Team continues to work on FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE. Public testing has turned up quite a few problems, many related to the low-level network (routing/ARP table) changes and their interactions with IPv6. Progress continues to be made on fixing up the issues that have been identified during the public testing. At this point in time we are shooting for two more public test builds (RC2 and RC3) followed by the release late October or early November. __________________________________________________________________ Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Contact: Randall Stewart SCTP continues to have minor fixes added to it as well as some new features. First and foremost, we now have VIMAGE and SCTP working and playing together. This goal was accomplished with the help of bz@, my new mentee tuexen@ and myself working together at the FreeBSD DevSummit in Cambridge, UK. Also the non-renegable SACK feature contributed by the university of Delaware was fixed so that now its safe to turn on (its sysctl). If you are using SCTP with CMT (Conncurrent Multipath Transfer) you will want to enable this option (CMT is also a sysctl). With CMT enabled you will be able to send data to all the destinations of an SCTP peer. We welcomed a new mentee (soon to be a commiter) to FreeBSD. Michael Tuexen is now a mentee of rrs@. Michael has been contributing to the SCTP work for quite some time and also moonlights as a Professor at the University of Muenster in Germany (when not doing SCTP coding). __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project URL: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html#dutch Contact: René Ladan Contact: Remko Lodder The current translations (Handbook and some articles) are kept up to date with the English versions. Some parts of the website have been translated, more work is in progress. Open tasks: 1. Find more volunteers for translating the remaining parts of the website and the FAQ. __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD Forums URL: http://forums.freebsd.org/ Contact: FreeBSD Forums Admins Contact: FreeBSD Forums Moderators Since their public launch in November 2008, the FreeBSD Forums (the most recent addition to the user community and support channels for the FreeBSD Operating System) have witnessed a healthy and steady growth. The user population is now at over 8,000 registered users, who have participated in over 6,000 topics, containing over 40,000 posts in total. The sign-up rate hovers between 50-100 each week. The total number of visitors (including 'guests') is hard to gauge but is likely to be a substantial multiple of the registered userbase. New topics and posts are actively 'pushed out' to search engines. This in turn makes the Forums show up in search results more and more often, making it a valuable and very accessible source of information for the FreeBSD community. One of the contributing factors to the Forums' success is their 'BSD-style' approach when it comes to administration and moderation. The Forums have a strong and unified identity, they are neatly divided into sub-forums (like 'Networking', 'Installing & Upgrading', etc.), very actively moderated, spam-free, and with a core group of very active and helpful members, dispensing many combined decades' worth of knowledge to starting, intermediate and professional users of FreeBSD. We expect the Forums to be, and to remain, a central hub in FreeBSD's community and support efforts. __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD Foundation Status Report URL: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org Contact: Deb Goodkin Kicking off our fall fund-raising campaign! Find out more at http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/. We were a sponsor for EuroBSDCon 2009, and provided travel grants to 8 FreeBSD developers and users. We sponsored Kyiv BSD 2009, in Kiev Ukraine. We were also a sponsor of BSDCan, and sponsored 7 developers. We funded three new projects, New Console Driver by Ed Schouten, AVR32 Support by Arnar Mar Sig, and Wireless Mesh Support by Rui Paulo, which has completed. We continued funding a project that is making improvements to the FreeBSD TCP Stack by Lawrence Stewart. The project that made removing disk devices with mounted filesystems on them safe, by Edward Napierala, is now complete. We recognized the following FreeBSD developers at EuroBSDCon 2009: Poul-Henning Kamp, Bjoern Zeeb, and Simon Nielsen. These developers received limited edition FreeBSD Foundation vests. Follow us on Twitter now! __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD German Documentation Project URL: https://doc.bsdgroup.de URL: http://code.google.com/p/bsdcg-trans/wiki/BSDPJTAdede Contact: Johann Kois Contact: Benedict Reuschling Contact: Martin Wilke In May 2009, Benedict Reuschling received his commit bit to the www/de and doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 trees under the mentorship of Johann Kois. Since then, he has been working primarily on the Handbook, updating existing chapters and translating new ones. Most notably, the filesystems and DTrace chapters have been recently translated. Bugs found in the original documents along the way were reported back so that the other translation teams could incorporate them, as well. Christoph Sold has put his time in translating the wiki pages of the BSD Certification Group into the German language. This is very helpful for all German people who want to take the exam and like to read the information about it in their native language. Daniel Seuffert has sent valuable corrections and bugfixes. Thanks to both of them for their time and efforts! The website is translated and updated constantly. Missing parts will be translated as time permits. We appreciate any help from volunteers in proofreading documents, translating new ones and keeping them up to date. Even small error reports are of great help for us. You can find contact information at the above URL. Open tasks: 1. Update the existing documentation set (especially the Handbook). 2. Translate more articles to German. 3. Read the translations. Check for problems and mistakes. Send feedback. __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD Hungarian Documentation Project URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/hu URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/hu URL: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/HungarianDocumentationProject URL: http://p4web.freebsd.org/@md=d&cd=//depot/projects/docproj_hu/&c=aXw@// depot/projects/docproj_hu/?ac=83 Contact: Gábor Kövesdán Contact: Gábor Páli In the last months, we have not added new translations, although we have been working on the existing ones to have them updated. We need more translators and volunteers to keep the amount of the translated documentation growing, so feel free to contribute. Every line of submission or feedback is appreciated and highly welcome. If you want to join our work, please read the introduction to the project as well as the FDP Primer (both of them are available in Hungarian). Open tasks: 1. Translate news entries, press releases 2. Translate Release Notes for -CURRENT and 8.X 3. Translate articles 4. Translate web pages 5. Read the translations, send feedback __________________________________________________________________ The FreeBSD Spanish Documentation Project URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/es URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/es URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es/articles/fdp-es/ Contact: José Vicente Carrasco Vayá Contact: Gábor Kövesdán Recently, we have added one new article translation. The existing translations have not been updated, though. We need more human resources to keep up with the work and keep the translations up-to-date. Open tasks: 1. Update the Handbook translation 2. Update the web page translation __________________________________________________________________ The Newcons project URL: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/Newcons URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~ed/newcons/patches/ Contact: Ed Schouten Some time ago I started writing a new driver for the FreeBSD kernel called vt(4), which is basically a replacement of syscons. There is still a lot of work that needs to be done but it is probably useful to mention what it does (and what does not). Right now there are just two graphics drivers for vt(4), namely a VGA driver for i386 and amd64 and a Microsoft Xbox graphics driver (because it was so easy to implement). I still have to figure out what I am going to do with VESA, because maybe it is better to just ignore VESA and figure out how hard it is to extend DRM to interact with vt(4). Some random features: it already supports both Unicode (UTF-8) input and output, it is MPSAFE and supports per-window graphical fonts of variable dimensions, containing an almost infinite amount of glyphs (both bold and regular). Open tasks: 1. Research needs to be done on DRM's codebase. 2. Syscons should already be migrated to TERM=xterm to make switching between drivers a bit easier. __________________________________________________________________ Valgrind suite on FreeBSD URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Valgrind Contact: Stanislav Sedov The Valgrind suite in the FreeBSD ports collection has been updated to version 3.5.0 (the latest available version). Most of the issues of the previous version should be resolved now: we expect memcheck, callgrind and cachegrind to be fully functional on both i386 and amd64 platforms as well as for i386 binaries running on amd64 system. DRD/hellgrind should work too, though they generate a lot of false-positives for now, so their output is a bit messy. Open tasks: 1. Port exp-ptrcheck valgrind tool and fix outstanding issues that show up in memcheck/helgrind/DRD in the Valgrind regression tests suite. 2. More testing (please, help). 3. Integrate our patches upstream. __________________________________________________________________ VirtualBox on FreeBSD URL: http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox Contact: Beat Gaetzi Contact: Bernhard Froehlich Contact: Dennis Herrmann Contact: Juergen Lock Contact: Martin Wilke VirtualBox has been committed to the Ports tree and synchronized with the latest trunk version from Sun. Several known problems are already fixed and some new features have been added: * VT-x support * Bridging support (Big Thanks to Fredrik Lindberg) * Host Serial Support * ACPI Support * Host DVD/CD access * SMP Support We would like to say thanks to all the people who helped us by reporting bugs and submitting fixes. We also thank the VirtualBox developers for their help with the ongoing effort to port VirtualBox on FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 18:14:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134D21065670 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882968FC17 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so7684877fxm.36 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9+i0NlcyGEabFM/y2M1F5TrbiKQ47b3If6yVWbHxyAw=; b=pRuRpDWICqUr4LTPvwyDxIzwh/QAwV1dayhux89WrSRoVxBc0V5R5rVFr45oxXCk17 PcH5G7y9Tj7zThpo7MCisodZhPHWpp0+KpztzU1s2Z0rhdFmpIQsyE3pRBXagZo1HEs9 ISu1Z0VMuHjERs0UK2MiOc5WoGmjpKvIkiCT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rKvxj4hOr69sqKWpizakPROzimq2MezhO+gMaHTHVpu+9Ou2XgXgZsuQJAsozeWggE JMLAApzYW4ecqmoDWUlG78o7xpglI1VQA8HVU4jBHez4JRZGyABfqarFsS7MH6fr72+S 7Y2VwWS335j2R2HYRrHtcYGgssoeXURi0Lcwg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.159 with SMTP id 31mr307391hbj.60.1255284839276; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:13:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091010063820.2e3a69b6@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <20091010063820.2e3a69b6@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:13:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:14:01 -0000 2009/10/10 Jerry > On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 > jhell wrote: > > [snip] > > > I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part > > of the early adopter club for commercial use. > > Somebody has got to go first. As so aptly stated by Robert Crandell, > chairman of American Airlines in the late 1990's, "If you're not the > lead dog, the view never changes." > > -- > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com > > Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these. > > Ovid (43 B.C. - A.D. 18) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > hmm most of us in here aren't business men though. We are sysadmins, and therefore the only thing we'd be risking is our job. Most people most of the time don't need cutting edge features no matter how cool they are. Its all about risk management. By that I don't mean eliminating risk and stagnating, I mean taking appropriate risk for the application. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 18:31:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7558A1065693 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F148FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9BITrKe015998 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:31:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091011183146.GA1258@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: music file in /tmp/XXX/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:31:53 -0000 guys, is there a freebsd app that will take my music file, 18 of them in /tmp/XXX, all named ogg files, and burn them to a CD? i've got like /tmp/XXX/one.ogg /tmp/XXX/two.ogg . . . /tmp/XXX/eighteen.ogg all are names so i figure they have the internet-title/siong-named database tags. not sure. i cant figure out howto use k3b to copy these files; i've tried. is there anything simpler that will burn files from /tmp/XXX/ to an audio CD? I surrender..... (*****) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 20:50:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE81F1065672 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no) Received: from asav3.lyse.net (asav3.lyse.net [81.167.37.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA468FC1F for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3915C841F1 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:50:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lyse.net Received: from terra.hatteland1.org (129.81-166-80.customer.lyse.net [81.166.80.129]) by asav3.lyse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E3D841E2 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AD244EE.9090505@kleppnett.no> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:49:50 +0000 From: kenneth hatteland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091009) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: using own ntp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:50:24 -0000 If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to the machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find anywhere helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my server and I am still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. Does anyone know about a web page or anything that my Googling have missed ? Or perhaps I have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all machines must be configured like the handbook says to connect to external machines ? Blessed Be kenneth, Norway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 20:51:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA6E106568D for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679AE8FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9BKnvtM020427; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:50:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 63o9JVQtuzfn; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:48:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9BKCDN7019918; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:12:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4AD23C1C.8040300@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:12:12 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Best , Randi Harper , FreeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sysinstall colours X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:51:01 -0000 Alexander Best wrote: >> Seriously?!?!?! All the problems with sysinstall, and your idea is to >> change >> the color? Are you trying to start a bikeshed? If so, I prefer pink. > >> -- randi I'm painting the little girl's room next week and might have some leftover interior latex, if that will do. Oh, but, it's outside, so prolly not. Sorry. Or, do you want your pink bikeshed in the garage? ;-) > current developers don't seem to have any interest in improving sysinstall. so > it's important to get new people involved in freebsd. and the way to do that > is with an attractive looking installer and an easy installation process imo. I don't want to be harsh, but do you know what you're talking about? Randi, for one, has taken on the zombie known as sysinstall with a nice big shotgun, and is attempting to keep adding a few features here/there as needed to keep up with necessities while other developers (AFAIK) work on other projects, including, at last count, a couple differnet possibilities for installers. It's apparently been rather daunting work, and, as a result, the new installer, whatever its name is/will be, isn't ready for inclusion with 8.0. However, a day is coming ... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 21:08:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917DA1065670 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CC08FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9063125; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:08:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9063123; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:08:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4AD249A7.7070505@radel.com> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:09:59 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kenneth hatteland References: <4AD244EE.9090505@kleppnett.no> In-Reply-To: <4AD244EE.9090505@kleppnett.no> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050602070708090604010400" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using own ntp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:08:42 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050602070708090604010400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kenneth hatteland wrote: > > If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to > the machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find > anywhere helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my > server and I am still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. > Does anyone know about a web page or anything that my Googling have > missed ? Or perhaps I have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all > machines must be configured like the handbook says to connect to > external machines ? Leaving aside two areas which could cover a multitude of complications should you pursue them, namely 1) You start setting various security settings and make your ntp server effectively unreachable, or 2) the ability of your local server to multicast time data, your local ntp server should look like any other ntp server to which you have access (other than for less latency and jitter should your network be "normal"). Put server IP_OR_FQDN_OF_LOCAL_NTP_SERVER_HERE in the ntp.conf of your client machines and see what happens. The "peers" query from the ntpq program should let you know if you have success or have somehow locked yourself out / blocked access. Feel free to give us specifics of what you're doing if this doesn't work. BTW, the above assumes that you mean setting up your various local machines to all use ntpd, but not all query outside machines. If this isn't it, you're going to have to tell us what you mean by "hook up my machines to the machine running the ntp server." -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms050602070708090604010400 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2Mqp4 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+0300 Message-ID: <9e20d71e0910111452s13e721b5oeb9fb0c8f6045601@mail.gmail.com> From: Artis Caune To: kenneth hatteland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using own ntp server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:52:33 -0000 2009/10/11 kenneth hatteland : > If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to t= he > machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find anywhe= re > helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my server and I = am > still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. Does anyone know > about a web page or anything that my Googling have missed ? Or perhaps = =C2=A0I > have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all machines must be configured lik= e > the handbook says to connect to external machines ? Take a look at OpenNTPD from OpenBSD. There are only two, three configuration options. :) For server: listen on * servers pool.ntp.org For clients: server 10.0.0.1 --=20 Artis Caune Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 21:53:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B0010656A5 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCAE8FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6D6252C9; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:53:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9BLrnl0005980; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:53:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:53:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20091011235349.3ec6d83a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091011183146.GA1258@thought.org> References: <20091011183146.GA1258@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Sun__11_Oct_2009_23_53_49_+0200_tmMnSzMVsuJFm7Q_" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: music file in /tmp/XXX/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:53:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Sun__11_Oct_2009_23_53_49_+0200_tmMnSzMVsuJFm7Q_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:31:48 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > is there a freebsd app that will take my music file, 18 of them in /tmp/XXX, > all named ogg files, and burn them to a CD? > [...] > all are names so i figure they have the internet-title/siong-named > database tags. not sure. i cant figure out howto use k3b to copy these > files; i've tried. is there anything simpler that will burn files from > /tmp/XXX/ to an audio CD? I surrender..... (*****) Yes there is. So much for the "user-friendlyness" of GUI apps. :-) I'll attach a simple shell script that has served me well over the years. I do admit that it seems to be overcomplicated because of multiple conversions. I've placed the file in my ~/bin and gave it +x permissions. Use it in the directory you are currently located at. It requires the presence of the following programs: ogg123, madplay, sox, as well as burncd, cdrecord or cdrdao for the burning (and atapicam for the last two). 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> > e.g > if I "cat" file which do not exist, error is on screen, > I want to add that error to some file (errors.txt) See "man sh" (or "man bash" if you use it): The redirection could be this: $ cat nonexist.txt > error.txt 2>&1 The C shell has a different syntax: % cat nonexist.txt >& error.txt I hope that's what you have requested. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 22:46:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E460106566B for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75088FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9BMkG2V054393 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9BMkGML076570 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9BMkGck076569 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:46:16 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091011224616.GA75228@marvin.optimis.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: error output redirection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:46:17 -0000 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:36:52PM +0200, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > if error output of some program appear on screen, it is possible to > print it also to some file simultaneously? Depends on the program, but generally, yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_streams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redirection_(computing) > e.g if I "cat" file which do not exist, error is on screen, I want to > add that error to some file (errors.txt) Replacing 'cat file_that_does_not_exist' with 'badcommand' # redirect STDERR to a file badcommand 2> errors.txt # append STDERR to a file badcommand 2>> errors.txt # fun with file descriptors to have it both ways badcommand 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 | tee errors.txt -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 11 23:02:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA72C1065697 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3568FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A1113345E2; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:02:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCssTYtRLyiR; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DCEB13345DC; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4AD26400.2060502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:02:24 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <560f92640910101323v36aa49aat5b88f6542bd8e169@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640910101323v36aa49aat5b88f6542bd8e169@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , ?????? , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:02:33 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: >>> My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 >>> according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be >>> rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made >>> me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few >>> months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. >> >> I don't think that is correct. There must be something unclear there. > > http://security.freebsd.org/ > > Near the bottom of the page mentioned above, there is a table. > RELENG_7_1 EoL is January 31, 2011, RELENG_7_2 EoL is May 31, 2010 > according to the chart. That is a difference of 8 months. All of these seems to be correct, but it needs a little note. The last version from the X-STABLE branch gets the Extended lifetime support. 7.2 is definitely not the latest release from the stable/7 branch, and that is the reason why it has shorter support life time. There, however, will be at least 7.3 which will potentially get longer support. And upgrading to 7.3 from 7.2 will surely not be a big deal. If you read the mentioned web page more carefully, you will see the following paragraph: Extended Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release from each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 months before the older Extended release expires. -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 00:11:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338E51065676 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083108FC19 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mx8VN-0007EA-1i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: <25849056.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: jaymax To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jaymax36@gmail.com Subject: Disk label inconsistencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:11:14 -0000 I have a rather bizarre problem. I have been trying to upgrade forever w/ endless problems, but may have found the cause of some of the problems. Running O/S 6.0. My system disk is displayed in df etc as /dev/ad0 with slice & partitions as ad0s1a, ad0s1b, ad0s1e, .. , etc. It is similarly displayed under /dev. However, when I get to the disk label editor it shows up as ad0a, and slice & partitions as ad0as1a, ad0as1b, ad0as1e, .. , etc. I've tried changing these, even with the Fdisk editor but they seem to persist, perhaps when I restore the dump files. NOTE: ad0a or add0asx ... etc does not show up under /dev . Needless to say the following are standard messages from the upgrade attempts Error mounting /mnt/dev/ad0as1e on /mnt/tmp : Input/output error Error mounting /mnt/dev/ad0as1f on /mnt/usr : Input/output error Is there any solution to this short of reformatting the whole disk as new disk from scratch. Thanks! "Disk label inconsistencies" -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Disk-label-inconsistencies-tp25849056p25849056.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 06:28:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF2F106568D for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E268FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU126-W14 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:16:48 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.192.212.177] From: Desmond da Peoples To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:16:48 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2009 06:16:48.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[946C96D0:01CA4B03] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mount problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:28:49 -0000 How's it going? I'm having probelms mounting media within the gnome environment. The drive will grab the media but not read it nor unmount it. I've edited policykit so that root:operator and perm 0660 are enabled. Fstab has /dev/acd0 has been commented out. Rc.conf has hal=2Cdbus=2C and gnome enabled. Kdm login manager if that helps any. =0A= _________________________________________________________________=0A= Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 07:48:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB56106568F for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57938FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so8444666qyk.29 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xI7aBFiBd1HPdKOdDcrlGNgZgYlAWFUnp8ePg40I2YM=; b=KGhCkzShNwF1stPdjK96zugev4qpyVv+U+iAIQmgJJtI026KQyrLn1I8IXKH+2MnL4 xXGG2KWH0qbIdh0a1OzfZCSQvR/CsLDdXQcaCe2KE+P9RsM1oE/J9XyajwE0RbsrT9fd 1XONKTZ/+fxVr+fHni78Vq26Nf+svKJ2R6ilo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tyEMWoRZXmaHgG6/vLZY5KpttdkHLuoJOv8lMyr6RO1YTpvFWGD0mZrUuaAkTA1LrH +dZwZpfKJ1oxEawwScHMbTsJwqI5a2vxYqeLeGJeJ2I5cUnlacFziNZpmBeGpZAcTB57 8cr8r77W/ck7yMquxaVJwfXYChKqlafoyxNgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.111.85 with SMTP id r21mr2235763qcp.88.1255333690049; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD26400.2060502@FreeBSD.org> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <560f92640910101323v36aa49aat5b88f6542bd8e169@mail.gmail.com> <4AD26400.2060502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:09 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910120048t76bd723cx2843adc4156f4a99@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Daniel Gerzo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Jerry McAllister , ?????? , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:48:11 -0000 > Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release from > each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum > of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if > needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 > months before the older Extended release expires. OK for some reason I made the perhaps incorrect assumption that 7.2 was the last release in the 7.x line. I don't know where I got that from, but I do seem to recall seeing that somewhere. Could be wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 07:53:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D461065693 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2465B8FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so380427qwd.7 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:53:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jzVVdERsZvWqhPDcSffSPwaFeo8crcj80tWOf9Klayo=; b=SEJyt6v1NAf+6qer2gB+GeH3+aiYbFbkFtsKhSO/b/M1x9akY83kK0nGFREub4VgTa vnVvIgCnaXYn9wxSOY65Zw76UnOMV3XIIy5GsIigmI/9ryLmz8isHf5yvFQbwNLXN8nK 36fD/7xvngYLVDQrPDL0vXrqNdvAinzmggcyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x1Yc4fxiCcHPVDc1B6AUoMO8CWnys0D1T++2I66BOMZV4oVth4qfO799qTX1IX+Juo /hKxeheRn4ldmEsg2gQSEKhI5p8QWHwjZosr+6M9z1RXKfuYtA004tX4kD8UHzcu9n8e bDnyXxjjVi+pjGWMbhtn3xALZziQH9az0cgAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.37.130 with SMTP id x2mr2298570qcd.15.1255333992434; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:53:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910120053s1c9bb2fcj838d622627f164b3@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Stefan Miklosovic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error output redirection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:53:13 -0000 > if error output of some program appear on screen, > it is possible to print it also to some file simultaneously ? Since you said "simultaneously", it made me think of the command tee. man tee? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 08:59:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFAF1065672 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Received: from sbox.lohika.com (sbox.lohika.com [217.9.0.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9587E8FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:59:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,544,1249246800"; d="scan'208";a="3106225" Received: from unknown (HELO dekker.lohika.com) ([172.20.100.30]) by sbox-local.lohika.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 11:59:34 +0300 Received: from [95.135.129.220] ([95.135.129.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by dekker.lohika.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9C91EKA029187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:01:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Message-ID: <4AD2EFF3.9020501@lohika.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:59:31 +0300 From: Markiyan Kushnir User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640910120053s1c9bb2fcj838d622627f164b3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640910120053s1c9bb2fcj838d622627f164b3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9882/Mon Oct 12 03:15:10 2009 on dekker.lohika.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Stefan Miklosovic Subject: Re: error output redirection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:59:53 -0000 what is easily done with tee for stdout cannot be done for stderr. Looks like there is no easy way to make a pipeline using stderr separately from stdout. If you want to watch output of the stderr separately from stdout, you might manage for it in two consoles: % foo 2>err % tail -f err Markiyan. Nerius Landys wrote: >> if error output of some program appear on screen, >> it is possible to print it also to some file simultaneously ? > > Since you said "simultaneously", it made me think of the command tee. man tee? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 09:12:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA9A10656EE for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Received: from sbox.lohika.com (sbox.lohika.com [217.9.0.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311C98FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:12:25 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,544,1249246800"; d="scan'208";a="3106287" Received: from unknown (HELO dekker.lohika.com) ([172.20.100.30]) by sbox-local.lohika.com with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2009 12:12:24 +0300 Received: from [95.135.129.220] ([95.135.129.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by dekker.lohika.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9C9E4RB030467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:14:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Message-ID: <4AD2F2F5.3090805@lohika.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:12:21 +0300 From: Markiyan Kushnir User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640910120053s1c9bb2fcj838d622627f164b3@mail.gmail.com> <4AD2EFF3.9020501@lohika.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD2EFF3.9020501@lohika.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9882/Mon Oct 12 03:15:10 2009 on dekker.lohika.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Stefan Miklosovic Subject: Re: error output redirection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:12:26 -0000 George Davidovich already gave an answer. Markiyan Kushnir wrote: > what is easily done with tee for stdout cannot be done for stderr. Looks > like there is no easy way to make a pipeline using stderr separately > from stdout. If you want to watch output of the stderr separately from > stdout, you might manage for it in two consoles: > > % foo 2>err > > % tail -f err > > Markiyan. > > Nerius Landys wrote: >>> if error output of some program appear on screen, >>> it is possible to print it also to some file simultaneously ? >> >> Since you said "simultaneously", it made me think of the command tee. >> man tee? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 09:13:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F6E1065692 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s-ussG1A7YKAxFtAsAl0-WBGZAC2b8FCxTgD-6jXa7QpBDmZ4T_TP1B4@bounce.linkedin.com) Received: from mail16-a-aa.linkedin.com (mail16-a-aa.linkedin.com [64.74.98.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA198FC1A for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:13:59 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: s=prod; d=linkedin.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Sender:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:X-LinkedIn-fbl; b=mCjR+GMxpZdiZ6gy79RFceJ/Tf472Rfz49rbrAZo3M4XICV4Lat+xWbh U3KXGs571AkynIwV5Q62Er56LJRhqosI0/dCM2/XJKWMEGCREOUwzA0p3 FsPyfiZs/tqY+Jc; Sender: messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Leandro Silva To: "Jerry Dunham, PMP" Message-ID: <306491100.1463475.1255337169424.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn11.prod> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-LinkedIn-fbl: ussG1A7YKAxFtAsAl0-WBGZAC2b8FCxTgD-6jXa7QpBDmZ4T_TP1B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:13:59 -0000 LinkedIn ------------ Leandro Silva requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Jerry, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Leandro Accept invitation from Leandro Silva http://www.linkedin.com/e/1o3bCy0npDqyzD3wjrAbLV0nLmqMr8R-MulSGyDnb3nr/blk/I1497860734_2/pmpxnSRJrSdvj4R5fnhv9ClRsDgZp6lQs6lzoQ5AomZIpn8_cBYQcPsMdzwTejgNiiZzomF5tnBKriYOdz8Nd30NejsLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/ View invitation from Leandro Silva http://www.linkedin.com/e/1o3bCy0npDqyzD3wjrAbLV0nLmqMr8R-MulSGyDnb3nr/blk/I1497860734_2/39vd3cTc3oUdPAQckALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ ------------------------------------------ Why might connecting with Leandro Silva be a good idea? 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So far, I'm at the 'see if it works in principle' stage, and I'm finding something strange. My procedure: * Start with an empty hard drive (ad0). * Boot off the FreeBSD CD, enter the live CD filesystem shell (Fixit -> Live CD Filesystem) * Create a single slice with fdisk that spans the entire disk (fdisk -i /dev/ad0) * Create a single partition with bsdlabel that spans the entire slice (bsdlabel -w /dev/ad0s1) * Install the FreeBSD Boot Loader (boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0) * Format and restore the dumpfile (newfs /dev/ad0s1a && mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt && cd /mnt && ssh storagebox "dd if=home/aj/image.dump" | restore -rvf - * Unmount /mnt and restart. The steps work fine... on physical hardware. The restored image boots up fine. As a VM guest, running in either VMWare or VirtualBox, it don't work. Everything appears to go fine, but when I get to the boot loader, pressing F1 just makes the PC speaker beep at me. Any pointers would be appreciated. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4. Cheers, Alex Jurkiewicz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 11:08:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C779106568D for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 861908FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Oct 2009 11:08:28 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 12 Oct 2009 13:08:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18hLGtD+3wheAMMu4IrgeAMiNt4w3qloWcI4Ei5/q qZNZprWKrTzuJ2 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:08:27 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091012110827.GA748@sandcat> References: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Subject: Fetchmail freaks out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:08:31 -0000 Hi Daemons, there happen strange things when I boot my laptop, FreeBSD 7.2, Fetchmail 6.3.11 (newest). .. Starting fetchmail. Starting fetchmail. fetchmail: can't accept options while a background fetchmail is running .. (Yes, the 'Starting' appears twice) My /etc/rc.conf contains: fetchmail_enable="YES" My /usr/local/etc/fetchmailrc contains: poll MYDOMAINNAME.COM, protocol pop3, no dns user MYUSERNAME there with password XXXXXX is MYUSERNAME here My /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fetchmail exists and is the default one from the port-install. That should be all the files I have. Fetchmail even works, but: What are these double starting-messages (#ps -ax shows just one fetchmail running)? What am I doing wrong? How to get rid of it? Thanks herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 08:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6231065695 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3BC8FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1782566bwz.43 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:42:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ubhhOjj8ETbcZX61kIM8DATQZ6c2THV9Vy8r8+4DxPg=; b=NauA0de7ZvveDAjOIy1HoBK4Y58J1ypndgWmziWLkv9lhMVOwqktflPQ43NaEDET12 AU/3VsBtC57EnUx/1jlEwOWrDvB+0ZHHV0YZ+SqU+4lZmtCW7mShFaCu24MKeDl9Yo3y GIoIL61haQtVMPpPAAwxKsofF0Wa3hVHAk6xU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iknTkyhgdu4jUkd+Mt4zZhetxUyyASiU30Cy3pL5XsG2N4lCwsuZxerOTDohsZqS4N MEx79lueWYEvt8LqYP1x+FBETX4jOjlnoJSkNWVjMOrxsfY06qoC8q1FEojYspQkCWdv ZyO1qhFxqTXScTOWC30BRXw+2scvD+Da9K6NM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.221 with SMTP id u29mr360569hbu.35.1255336942547; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:42:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640910120048t76bd723cx2843adc4156f4a99@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <560f92640910101323v36aa49aat5b88f6542bd8e169@mail.gmail.com> <4AD26400.2060502@FreeBSD.org> <560f92640910120048t76bd723cx2843adc4156f4a99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:42:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Nerius Landys X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:17:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jerry McAllister , Daniel Gerzo , Marwan Sultan , ?????? , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:42:24 -0000 2009/10/12 Nerius Landys > > Selected releases (normally every second release plus the last release > from > > each -STABLE branch) will be supported by the Security Officer for a > minimum > > of 24 months after the release, and for sufficient additional time (if > > needed) to ensure that there is a newer Extended release for at least 3 > > months before the older Extended release expires. > > OK for some reason I made the perhaps incorrect assumption that 7.2 > was the last release in the 7.x line. I don't know where I got that > from, but I do seem to recall seeing that somewhere. Could be wrong. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ive seen 7.3 mentioned on release engineering docs. I doubt whether it will go further than that though From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 14:00:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D468B10656A3 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg.morell@yahoo.com) Received: from web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [68.180.199.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 980BC8FC2C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57680 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2009 13:33:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255354420; bh=mV1z/8bz20ikiz6Rw2d3TMSs/LSvrkb9duZDXNQLSZY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f/OFX5XZ0AH3GKto4NZWzGxh05xg8zuXFr5MxLwK39mduV6k5Jm4TjnNYhVd3eJQPZxNF0qcwu2L/wpKMa3CU1jvATLc15VzNELGF6ivMLHhog01nRjd+sA/F/jVFXWws1aMJoxOVcmCnVzh0iNcRgiW2XH34eVaAsj4DttuI3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yU0eqpBwbJVhpTK9ENB/kGvyAmGxNFDCwZThE7PeoWzduqywmyXyZlXtBF1wCtOIc6h2l4dHng4HTnoGXYL+XebwsD3G7ZZITI0rpBzQvbYm1+7ffJP7AYrloyqslATQyi8ndJGo+V0jtKOhDdS0YY3CI5AXu8pKW+mU8PIw/nk=; Message-ID: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YclrM9wVM1mz.i2bgF5o7GK0Y6bjjekl9hdsloIVGUsPujWxAjFBaKNvYyYR.mF5d0k2mJB94YVcN0LGUd2q5ka90K3tEa05SOYO5560i9wgLKq6V2lET245QFZayCHDmy7Tfp3mYv3dBAOdyzFiiDfjENSLfQV4fgy3hoHHy1KjHPUJubZtXtm2RxQ_oA.R0y00zap8aXGrEFtBsUDTuFvYdN1CrrvfoIKeztZ.tTqO0EJeI5THV.YWqIUOZcPxZMo- Received: from [207.237.128.4] by web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:33:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:33:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Morell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Mountable encrypted file? What to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:00:22 -0000 Since TrueCrypt doesn't work on FreeBSD, I'm wondering what you'd recommend for this: I like to keep all of my sensitive stuff in a few encrypted mountable files. Something where I can copy the file to a USB key for backup, but not worry if I lose the USB key since it's just an encrypted file. But when on a computer, I can mount it as a volume. On OS X, I use encrypted 'dmg' volumes. On Linux and Windows, I use TrueCrypt. What should I use on FreeBSD? It doesn't have to be portable. Something FreeBSD-only is fine. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 14:03:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB009106566B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC38FC18 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1MxLUl-0001hc-Ln>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:03:27 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1MxLUl-00069d-K9>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:03:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4AD3373F.1090206@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:03:43 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: [ports/science/paraview]: /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl: no event type or button # or keysym X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:03:28 -0000 Before posting a PR I'll ask whether this error I receive after a fresh installation of paraview from ports today on FreeBSD 8.0-RC1/amd64 is an serious issue or something related on misconfiguration. Besides, tcl/tk 8.4 is up to date and present on the system. Hope someone can help, regards, Oliver -- ParaView error: InitializeTcl failed Tk_Init error: Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories: /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4 /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl: no event type or button # or keysym no event type or button # or keysym while executing "bind Listbox { %W yview scroll [expr {- (%D / 120) * 4}] units }" (file "/usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/listbox.tcl" line 182) invoked from within "source /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/listbox.tcl" (in namespace eval "::" script line 1) invoked from within "namespace eval :: [list source [file join $::tk_library $file.tcl]]" (procedure "SourceLibFile" line 2) invoked from within "SourceLibFile listbox" (in namespace eval "::tk" script line 4) invoked from within "namespace eval ::tk { SourceLibFile button SourceLibFile entry SourceLibFile listbox SourceLibFile menu SourceLibFile panedwindow SourceLibFile ..." invoked from within "if {$::tk_library ne ""} { if {[string equal $tcl_platform(platform) "macintosh"]} { proc ::tk::SourceLibFile {file} { if {[catch { namesp..." (file "/usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl" line 397) invoked from within "source /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 [list source $file]" This probably means that tk wasn't installed properly. -- Oliver Hartmann Freie Universitaet Berlin Planetologie und Fernerkundung Malteserstr. 74 - 100/Haus D D-12249 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0) 30 838 70 508 FAX: +49 (0) 30 838 70 539 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 14:33:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186B7106566B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colejd@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D6B8FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rnc71c0040EZKEL52qLSed; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:20:26 +0000 Received: from corsair ([24.218.214.211]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rqLR1c00T4aE2Xs3MqLRdW; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:20:25 +0000 From: "James Cole" To: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpLRyA17nu8WSV3RUWYbAVxxCaWnQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kdeutils4 compile problem w/ superkaramba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:33:41 -0000 I am trying to compile KDE4 but when it tries to compile the kdeutils4 dependency (doing so manually here), it croaks with superkaramba. >From what I can tell, superkaramba cannot find python.h or any other call in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp I have 7.1-RELEASE with updated ports as of Oct-6. python26 is installed with threads. Using my friend Google, the only advise I have found is installing the python-devel package (which doesn't seem to exist in FreeBSD) on a superkaramba faq page. http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/faq.html Any help would be great. Code: #make install [ 88%] Built target sweeper [ 88%] Built target superkaramba_automoc [ 88%] Building CXX object superkaramba/src/CMakeFiles/superkaramba.dir/python/karamba.o /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:30:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:65: error: 'PyMethodDef' does not name a type /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp: In constructor 'KarambaPython::KarambaPython(const ThemeFile&, bool)': /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:355: error: 'PyRun_SimpleString' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:361: error: 'PyImport_AddModule' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:362: error: 'karamba_methods' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/superkaramba/src/python/karamb a.cpp:362: error: 'Py_InitModule' was not declared in this scope /superkaramba/src/python/karamba.cpp:630: error: 'Py_BuildValue' was not declared in this scope *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4/work/kdeutils-4.3.1/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 15:12:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1737A106566B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0498FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.27.177) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4ACF3C910063346F; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:11:58 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9CFBv0p058184; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:11:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4AD3473C.4000204@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:11:56 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Morell References: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mountable encrypted file? What to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:12:00 -0000 Greg Morell ha scritto: > Since TrueCrypt doesn't work on FreeBSD, I'm wondering what you'd recommend for this: > > I like to keep all of my sensitive stuff in a few encrypted mountable files. > > Something where I can copy the file to a USB key for backup, but not worry if I lose the USB key since it's just an encrypted file. But when on a computer, I can mount it as a volume. What about GELI? I've used it for a long time with no problems. Check the handbook for details. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 16:20:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF45110657B6 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EAC8FC20 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9CGK9kX077970; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:20:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B768DBA8C; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:20:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:20:08 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Greg Morell Message-ID: <20091012162008.GA17456@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mountable encrypted file? What to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:20:11 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:33:40AM -0700, Greg Morell wrote: > Since TrueCrypt doesn't work on FreeBSD, I'm wondering what you'd recomme= nd for this: >=20 > I like to keep all of my sensitive stuff in a few encrypted mountable fil= es. >=20 > Something where I can copy the file to a USB key for backup, but not worr= y if I lose the USB key since it's just an encrypted file. But when on a c= omputer, I can mount it as a volume. >=20 > On OS X, I use encrypted 'dmg' volumes. >=20 > On Linux and Windows, I use TrueCrypt. >=20 > What should I use on FreeBSD? You should use GELI, see geli(8). It can encrypt complete disks, partitions= or bsdlabels. If you want the encrypted stuff encased in a file, you should us= e md(4) to create a vnode-backed memory disk, and encrypt that with GELI. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrTVzgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUrOACdGva/WneVqh1c17WbhG1J12xv kFAAn3SHz45N5N5YVlEzDvRza39LjiEu =7B6v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 16:38:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE15E106568F for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCAC8FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so8281556fxm.36 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=FzrhLKn32RT6BsH3H8szDdk5WaycZ8B5wKIT7Pg5oRo=; b=M92EzKaQmA70cOb1v9iVPpmHhlUCPGB3gjDPGkAnqeuTiTWC+OReChKm6aCni5e5A0 djzvnDom4gilVlE+m79u8Ild9AvVmx1qUQO8C9RYCyMvZoUX9sJSSvjhhmEOSZzykbpj XxCO/cHSBP73QijWND81jCb27owzZ6n+dCRI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=M/vdTpPkV6f12iplzRSQiWsVCZLXVe2GQfXOXJHGtjvHViobsaNROBSCyYr0KQApis lqUeMKwe6ALubZr+Fix9KrugYiv2CoCBVUXnttbngz5401QPiZvohTQjSeSmQOIVMvU5 6GbGdJVbDqlSyR4zvQVhb4w+VeeTyXoAG+zc4= Received: by 10.204.36.202 with SMTP id u10mr5181565bkd.196.1255364310693; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev.null (247-175-174-206.cust.wirelessbeehive.com [206.174.175.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f31sm6042495fkf.35.2009.10.12.09.18.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dev.null (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B34A6CD38; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:18:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:18:24 -0600 From: Geoff Fritz To: Greg Morell Message-ID: <20091012161824.GA370@dev.null> References: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mountable encrypted file? What to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:33:40AM -0700, Greg Morell wrote: > > I like to keep all of my sensitive stuff in a few encrypted mountable files. > Something where I can copy the file to a USB key for backup, but not > worry if I lose the USB key since it's just an encrypted file. But when > on a computer, I can mount it as a volume. > > What should I use on FreeBSD? Combine geli with the md device: dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/secret bs=1 count=0 seek=1G mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /tmp/secret -u 1984 geli load geli init /dev/md1984 && geli attach /dev/md1984 newfs /dev/md1984.eli mkdir /mnt/secret && mount /dev/md1984.eli /mnt/secret echo "the formula for Coke is..." > /mnt/secret/secret_formula.txt umount /mnt/secret geli detach /dev/md1984.eli mdconfig -d -u 1984 cp /tmp/secret /mnt/usbdrive (I don't know off-hand the 'cp' options for copying sparse files correctly). Read the man pages for all of the commands you are unfamiliar with. geli(8) has a lot of flexible options. -- Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 17:35:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A165A1065672 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243FD8FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9CHZLg5097632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:35:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9CHZL6i097629 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:35:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:35:17 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fagskolen_i_Gj=F8vik?= OpenPGP: url=http://fagskolen.gjovik.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1864763709-1255367153=:84355" Content-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.fig.ol.no Subject: Trouble making a Tandberg LTO-2 HH S619 work with AMANDA 2.6.1p1 on 7.2-STABLE as of today X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:35:39 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1864763709-1255367153=:84355 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm having trouble making a Tandberg LTO-2 HH S619 work with AMANDA 2.6.1p1 on 7.2-STABLE i386 cvsup'ed as of today local time. The tape drive is connected to channel A on: ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xff8ff000-0xff8fffff irq 17 at device 8.0 on pci1 ahc0: [ITHREAD] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xff8fe000-0xff8fefff irq 18 at device 8.1 on pci1 ahc1: [ITHREAD] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs During (re)boot the following is recorded in dmesg: (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): SCSI bus reset occurred (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz DT, offset 64, 16bit) Is these messages normal for this drive? A valid tape was present in the drive during reboot. This is a brand new drive and in it's maiden voyage the other night AMANDA complained about running out of tape after a mere 10 GB worth of data. LTO2 tapes usually have a raw capacity of about 200 GB. Next I ran amtapetype to get the new characteristics, but got the following instead: amanda@XXX:~>mt -f /dev/sa0 comp off amanda@XXX:~>mt -f /dev/sa0 status Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: 0x42 variable 0 disabled - ---------available modes--------- 0: 0x42 variable 0 0x1 1: 0x42 variable 0 0x1 2: 0x42 variable 0 0x1 3: 0x42 variable 0 0x1 - --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. - --------------------------------- File Number: 0 Record Number: 0 Residual Count 0 amanda@XXX:~>/usr/bin/time -l amtapetype -t "TANDBERG-LTO2-HH-TANDBERG-200GB-WITHOUT-COMPRESSION" /dev/sa0 Applying heuristic check for compression. Wrote random (uncompressible) data at 22260042.3225806 bytes/sec Wrote fixed (compressible) data at 22260042.3225806 bytes/sec Compression: disabled Writing one file to fill the volume. Wrote less than 100MB to the device: Error writing block: Unknown error: 0 9133,58 real 4747,35 user 316,77 sys 11700 maximum resident set size 3 average shared memory size 730 average unshared data size 127 average unshared stack size 1614 page reclaims 1 page faults 0 swaps 18 block input operations 2 block output operations 0 messages sent 0 messages received 0 signals received 44390062 voluntary context switches 26325015 involuntary context switches amanda@XXX:~> I managed to observe the block count rising well into 6000000 before the abrupt ending which usually indicates the tape being completely filled assuming a block size of 32K which is the default for amtapetype. I can (re)boot the server with verbose logging turned on if that can improve the diagnosis. I've ordered a new Adaptec 39320 to use with this drive. If anyone has a better suggestion please let's have it. Trond. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no ACM, NAS, NUUG, SAGE, USENIX | FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE & Alpine 2.00 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrTaNkACgkQbYWZalUoElvQUACaAqtSRuAFUJc84NTpZVuqKulY Z4QAn1L0fZzRoXVPXQjA+NBuAgSYtBPZ =6Bl5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2055831798-1864763709-1255367153=:84355-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 18:53:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1231065670 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99518FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so30238992ywh.7 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sebz5S6Nib5R/jq31TYAaDWhMmxpFzrE37J05s/JqJw=; b=sEkTDWH96beJH6wkn7YXnruxyvZJXNHxv73Dy0JGRXiX8YnbxuFe/ELr1z3nCdt/Jf +dGDZHGHmKicYVEn1OXK7k1jjh7CZIMGh+Jcf11djWQilZ0mMZOKlynihIyhv0P+18jU tQDBv7YyECIUGd4LQgtlwWnq/0DgnMQR9vU/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Mu0CCwPxeI8n2I10PJZkOWNauR5/216ta6UxdXV0kHeDWsiQ7B1XS3gun0MHhYGs9B Xg56tnnD+6RDuVRW6vh9Shw7yQKSAIjCXzb/TorUUkwDT4bv2RvZx7d+QIH7qMBkHGWQ 01cUVrEYj2noxArnjShkQYSinwGQ+oeToYMxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.102.16 with SMTP id e16mr5903461anm.84.1255373589899; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> References: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:53:09 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Alex Jurkiewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restore(8)ing new / -- boots on metal but not in a VM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:53:11 -0000 On 10/12/09, Alex Jurkiewicz wrote: > Hi all, > A little background: I'm writing a script that will allow me to > restore(8) a standard FreeBSD partition to multiple machines. So far, > I'm at the 'see if it works in principle' stage, and I'm finding > something strange. > > My procedure: > * Start with an empty hard drive (ad0). > * Boot off the FreeBSD CD, enter the live CD filesystem shell (Fixit > -> Live CD Filesystem) > * Create a single slice with fdisk that spans the entire disk (fdisk > -i /dev/ad0) > * Create a single partition with bsdlabel that spans the entire slice > (bsdlabel -w /dev/ad0s1) > * Install the FreeBSD Boot Loader (boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0) > * Format and restore the dumpfile (newfs /dev/ad0s1a && mount > /dev/ad0s1a /mnt && cd /mnt && ssh storagebox "dd > if=home/aj/image.dump" | restore -rvf - > * Unmount /mnt and restart. > > The steps work fine... on physical hardware. The restored image boots > up fine. As a VM guest, running in either VMWare or VirtualBox, it > don't work. Everything appears to go fine, but when I get to the boot > loader, pressing F1 just makes the PC speaker beep at me. > > Any pointers would be appreciated. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4. > > Cheers, > Alex Jurkiewicz Is the virtual machine using SCSI emulation to boot, or is it using IDE? SCSI drives are da(4), IDE drives are ata(4) [aka ad(4)] If the boot blocks (maybe boot0 specific) point to an ad/ata device, and the virtual machine is SCSI, it won't find the boot sectors. Personally, I use the "standard" boot blocks which don't allow multibooting but I don't multiboot BSD anyway. The standard boot blocks work by finding the first bsd slice, and booting it. I like the keyword find because it doesn't direct the boot blocks to something unfindable. :D Let me know the subsystem layout, and we'll work from there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 19:18:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7D21065672 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FAE8FC1E for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ECD1DDAB; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:18:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9CJImvP001563; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:18:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:18:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Geoff Fritz Message-Id: <20091012211848.a92b6394.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091012161824.GA370@dev.null> References: <954220.56717.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20091012161824.GA370@dev.null> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Greg Morell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mountable encrypted file? What to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:51 -0000 On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:18:24 -0600, Geoff Fritz wrote: > mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /tmp/secret -u 1984 ^^^^^^^^ Heheh... You plusgood coder. Continue scriptwrite fulwise! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 21:13:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA1A106568B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D546F8FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091012211343.MYUC17277.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:13:43 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.107.64]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091012211343.FNJH2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:13:43 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5F8906197; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:13:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:13:40 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 sparc64 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w2LRqdVQ8nkA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=7CgW8afgiQkRaSJeyW8A:9 a=RB935RGTaid7Zy5lL5gk9CzxXlUA:4 a=JSY9G6yZ4_w51hrdtWIA:9 a=cHDEFlRRc9puZQKy2_7t8ROMeMEA:4 Subject: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:13:59 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I have edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've read on the web enlightens me... :-/ Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrTnAMACgkQixf5fBYiFmqmDACfbrmvu23O2EoyHRCLTztk+VNv FlgAoLetAo1VaOR/Nluz5TjWHbgYDzIA =B8t8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 22:08:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2D31065676 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0748FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-396412.home.otenet.gr [79.131.100.122]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n9CM8kl6031214 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:08:46 +0300 Message-ID: <4AD3A8EE.8020708@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:08:46 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:08:49 -0000 Daniel Bye wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up > gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my > /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and > use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling > to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the > processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in > trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. > > So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I have > edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. > If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and > not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the > mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? > > I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've > read on the web enlightens me... :-/ > > Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! > > Dan > > When not mirroring, I first create the journals and then label the resulting adxxxx.journal devices In case you are doing a gmirror device, you would not really need the separate label step - the gm device name won't change and gmirror is not affected if the device names of the individual disks change (the disks are marked as part of a mirror and scanned at startup). When you are creating the composite gmirror device you are effectively labeling it anyway i.e. gmirror label gm0... Now if you follow the usual tutorials found in the web you would be using gm0 / gm1 but you actually name it any way you wish. If you really need to label the separate gmirrored partitions, do it after setting up the mirror. Concerning the order of journals and mirroring, I create the journals first, then mirror the result. This has always worked fine for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 22:14:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD3E106566B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremysalmeron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9CF8FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so8524725fxm.36 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GUAwck/kO4w33COn3RtNT87cpsLT12eecdXC4+asIxg=; b=xeCXyihrUySIogDT0nJlKWe48yYTSATkNvlvGLI4APyJkmSjcKvot6jYmyxw0uUxnf Dg76nof2R2cnxN+DCJe658kYWezZSTMy3o/+Qk3n3H55rV8m9SX55HFpQx1o/Jou8O5+ RRGrwWtCMK+Q3+1WOKsoHrNfyqnPhbCqcpWjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QpNXkc0U5G82/IZIFwWAuwTfh9otXu1JI1VaD9IpFmyJCVgWS9odJF5tzhPKzVvi92 sVJSEDTGSP6l6Ttqn3ElEJw+thCk9oNuD/B5/r0slIEUz0gScFFVJUiMeGyrZLyjaD/M i/R8RuSfllUuB94Byky40q3RPYueMyV0ukk+s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.203 with SMTP id y11mr5539106bkw.200.1255384411200; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:53:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=E9my_SALMERON?= To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Demande de renseignements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:14:48 -0000 Bonsoir , Je souhaiterai distribuer une version modifi=E9e de FreeBSD : non alteratio= n du code source mais avec modification d'ordre graphique . Je souhaiterai la distribuer en bundle avec un p=E9riph=E9rique nomade . Puis-je utiliser librement le syst=E8me d'exploitation et le distribuer de cette mani=E8re ? Le cas =E9ch=E9ant , quelles sont les obligations que je dois respecter afi= n de ne pas =EAtre en contradiction avec le copyright ? Je ne trouve pas de r=E9ponses sur le net , je m'en remets =E0 vous . Cordialement J=E9r=E9my Salmeron I would like to sell a customized version of FreeBSD : no alteration but only a template modification . I would like to sell this product on a netbook. Could i use the OS and distribute like this way ? What are the rules that i must respect to be OK with the copyright ? I'm seeking on the net without finding answers I need your point Best Regards Jeremy Salmeron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 00:29:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB1B106568D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BE38FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091013002923.UJHA27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:29:23 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.107.64]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091013002923.YBPO21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:29:23 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B47A64A3; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:29:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:29:20 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091013002919.GB12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> <4AD3A8EE.8020708@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XF85m9dhOBO43t/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD3A8EE.8020708@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 sparc64 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dC1Ldo5XeyQA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=Y3hoo58EmDaJEhHKEsEA:9 a=2espcyFpuelIsSPf4gANM-VKCOMA:4 a=feicr6T9y-zhkO8PYgQA:9 a=AG3BxxMyLYjPU1y6mL46OlJ5Sy8A:4 Subject: Re: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:29:42 -0000 --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:08:46AM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Daniel Bye wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up > > gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my > > /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and > > use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling > > to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the > > processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in > > trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. > > > > So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I have > > edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. > > If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and > > not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the > > mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? > > > > I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've > > read on the web enlightens me... :-/ > > > > Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! > > > > Dan > > > > =20 > When not mirroring, I first create the journals and then label the > resulting adxxxx.journal devices > In case you are doing a gmirror device, you would not really need the > separate label step - the gm device name won't change and gmirror is not > affected if the device names of the individual disks change (the disks > are marked as part of a mirror and scanned at startup). > When you are creating the composite gmirror device you are effectively > labeling it anyway i.e. gmirror label gm0... > Now if you follow the usual tutorials found in the web you would be > using gm0 / gm1 but you actually name it any way you wish. > If you really need to label the separate gmirrored partitions, do it > after setting up the mirror. >=20 > Concerning the order of journals and mirroring, I create the journals > first, then mirror the result. This has always worked fine for me. Thanks much, Manoli. After posting, I came to more or less the same conclusion, but it's good to get confirmation from someone who clearly knows more about this stuff than I do! I'd still be interested to hear what others think/do. As ever, thanks for your time. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrTyd8ACgkQixf5fBYiFmpd8ACgqhSJZL4dB2fh/Cdzl4n2iyAB Qr0An1KtduOYMCAim+XLkU3YuBXqsKfg =4ZEA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XF85m9dhOBO43t/C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 00:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1B41065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.jurkiewicz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f196.google.com (mail-qy0-f196.google.com [209.85.221.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60648FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so7713669qyk.14 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:45:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=s+8rLM/OhpIJGrdEcAYQzcc9ZVhk/FQIcuqwGGzdFOQ=; b=v1H+b6dKQI1GpA/Kl318zuU8NxVh6UAoDr8e1pygAnfz5pA+t708V9zhx70l1NtwM4 3ImGZZlZ3hL/lDw2nkyRPBTf4bKjllqujeKPJFjeohS1dBVZk2UU5mZAEXJs3m2G8SBZ YCnFL+Wa0QfcebvSQismgknAwbv79YyDz3hhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iXeVW3UyvxnPWIeBCWqqMxU8ETJXx6wSA3W1Np09/vQI9jR+1sczEZMe+x1jWU0zaC 96e1dbg4uF9X57J/c5ZPZnl+jaf7j12OFP75pHOlKG+56BNvXTMmoEtsqHIkeakHrkOy +f1O+Seqqe1wgvtnmzrdXH+rJHViUSi/Zftys= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alex.jurkiewicz@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.116.133 with SMTP id m5mr5229882qaq.214.1255394708172; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:45:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:45:08 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b9e04bf43a0eab06 Message-ID: <98ac902a0910121745h204124ear51139091572676f3@mail.gmail.com> From: Alex Jurkiewicz To: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Re: restore(8)ing new / -- boots on metal but not in a VM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:45:09 -0000 2009/10/13 Tim Judd : > Is the virtual machine using SCSI emulation to boot, or is it using IDE? > > SCSI drives are da(4), IDE drives are ata(4) [aka ad(4)] > The dump was taken from an ad0 device on physical hardware, and I'm attempting to restore to the same, just on virtual hardware. > If the boot blocks (maybe boot0 specific) point to an ad/ata device, > and the virtual machine is SCSI, it won't find the boot sectors. So, if I make a dumpfile of / on an ad(4) device, I can't restore it to a da(4) device and expect it to boot? I guess at minimum I'll need two copies of this image if I want to roll it out on machines with both sorts of drive, right? Thanks, AJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 03:42:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED221065693 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C018FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n9D3g9jv015359 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AD3F710.3060701@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:42:08 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:42:10 -0000 I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on FreeBD failed. Anybody has good experiences making netbooks work? Or better is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 03:49:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189C61065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0D38FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (ppp-93-104-103-214.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.103.214]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033F8183E6862; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9D3nHSf002322; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:49:17 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Yuri Message-ID: <20091013034917.GB2063@current.Sisis.de> References: <4AD3F710.3060701@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4AD3F710.3060701@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:49:18 -0000 El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 08:42:08PM -0700, Yuri escribió: > I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't > be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on > FreeBD failed. > > Anybody has good experiences making netbooks work? > Or better is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? Better post in freebsd-mobile such question. For your question see here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 04:15:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC895106568F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C949E8FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdaemon.pldrouin.net (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9AAAB6C19; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AD3FEEB.1030405@pldrouin.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:15:39 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4AD3F710.3060701@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD3F710.3060701@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:15:07 -0000 Hi, So far I have been able to get WiFi working on most netbooks I got, but honestly, FreeBSD is not the best for laptops. WiFi drivers are often a bit buggy (connection is dropping because of driver problems) and ACPI sleep modes never worked on my laptops. WiFi, ACPI sleep modes and graphic card support are the weakest points of FreeBSD for non-server usage according to me... Yuri wrote: > I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi > wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to > work on FreeBD failed. > > Anybody has good experiences making netbooks work? > Or better is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 04:34:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947F41065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBCA8FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdaemon.pldrouin.net (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B839AB6C13; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AD3FD92.6020708@pldrouin.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:09:54 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=E9my_SALMERON?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Demande de renseignements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:34:23 -0000 Bonjour, je crois bien que c'est possible. La license BSD est beaucoup plus permittive que la license GPL. En pratique je crois que la seule restriction est de ne pas alterer la notice. Il n'est pas obligatiore de rendre disponible le code source comme avec la license GPL. Le copyright complet est dans le fichier COPYRIGHT dans le dossier racine de FreeBSD. Pierre-Luc Drouin Jérémy SALMERON wrote: > Bonsoir , > Je souhaiterai distribuer une version modifiée de FreeBSD : non alteration > du code source mais avec modification d'ordre graphique . Je souhaiterai la > distribuer en bundle avec un périphérique nomade . > > Puis-je utiliser librement le système d'exploitation et le distribuer de > cette manière ? > Le cas échéant , quelles sont les obligations que je dois respecter afin de > ne pas être en contradiction avec le copyright ? > > Je ne trouve pas de réponses sur le net , je m'en remets à vous . > > Cordialement > > Jérémy Salmeron > > > > I would like to sell a customized version of FreeBSD : no alteration but > only a template modification . I would like to sell this product on a > netbook. > > Could i use the OS and distribute like this way ? > What are the rules that i must respect to be OK with the copyright ? > > I'm seeking on the net without finding answers > I need your point > > Best Regards > Jeremy Salmeron > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 05:00:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F23A106568B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@datasynergy.org) Received: from s219.sureserver.com (s219.sureserver.com [203.194.200.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142968FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22875 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Oct 2009 05:00:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.7?) (saifi.khan@datasynergy.org@59.92.135.48) by s219.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 13 Oct 2009 05:00:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:28:02 +0530 (IST) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@freebsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: IUP port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:00:30 -0000 Hi: Does anybody know if there is a IUP port in FreeBSD ? IUP is a portable toolkit for building graphical user interfaces http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/iup/ thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 05:42:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF88E1065672 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s4.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s4.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B888FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W62 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s4.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:42:29 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [219.67.152.99] From: Marwan Sultan To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:42:28 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2009 05:42:29.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3B8CC70:01CA4BC7] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: server specification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:42:29 -0000 Hello gurus=2C =20 Im going to a new server=2C and i donot want to have a problem.. May please anyone advice me of any feed back of FreeBSD 7.2 with the follo= wing specification: any problems? =20 =20 1x Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 2GB DDR2 ECC 3WARE RAID SATA 2 ports 2x 250GB SATA in RAID 1 =20 So any problems with quad kentsfield and FBSD 7.2 ? =20 thank you in advance. =20 Marwan Sultan=20 =0A= _________________________________________________________________=0A= Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 07:51:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279921065692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D792C8FC22 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:59034 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Mxc9a-0002QV-5B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:44 +0200 Received: (qmail 44819 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2009 09:50:40 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2009 09:50:40 +0200 Received: (qmail 81685 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Oct 2009 09:50:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:40 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Marwan Sultan Message-ID: <20091013075039.GA81673@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Mxc9a-0002QV-5B. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Mxc9a-0002QV-5B 87ae3b9c9dbe7c28c7055015b1ce452b Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: server specification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:01 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 05:42:28AM +0000, Marwan Sultan wrote: > > Hello gurus, > > > > Im going to a new server, and i donot want to have a problem.. > > May please anyone advice me of any feed back of FreeBSD 7.2 with the following specification: > > any problems? > > > > > > 1x Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 > Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x 4MB L2 > Cache LGA 775 > > 2GB DDR2 ECC > > 3WARE RAID SATA 2 ports > > 2x 250GB SATA in RAID 1 > > > > So any problems with quad kentsfield and FBSD 7.2 ? No problems AFAIK, but then the exact CPU model is almost never a problem. Far more likely to cause problems is the chipset used on the motherboard where one or more components (ethernet controller, SATA controller, etc) might not be supported or might have problems. (The same goes for any additional controllers that might be included on the motherboard or on add-on cards.) Most chipsets work fine, but some of the very newest might not be supported yet. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 07:51:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3C51065694 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howard@leadmon.net) Received: from ibm.leadmon.net (ibm.leadmon.net [207.114.24.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D3C8FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HDLDESKTOP64 (hdl-desktop-64.leadmon.net [207.114.24.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by ibm.leadmon.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/LNSG+SCOP+PSBL+LUBL+NJABL+SBL+DSBL+SORBS+CBL+RHSBL) with ESMTP id n9D7HJF3078484 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:17:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from howard@leadmon.net) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 ibm.leadmon.net n9D7HJF3078484 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=leadmon.net; s=default; t=1255418239; bh=JvTz84KRDYkSgswmEtQGw7cbLcbhgzsHmW2hUd+W4F8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rbuMKqejX0VRIuUXJt+GX6qe7U3IxMxtJdQzIme/sXgQyAPbUkDS4OvVOGBhhIoxy LNV76Q9mN7cn4F+MVhzaDvBfxczT4bhfMx+Qxfuvg5OIqOdNu8zYzHG1M31RskH2yz g2uXUNy9lEhi4QlPrcsaRlu8/x1atLAlr1faGhm4= X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 ibm.leadmon.net n9D7HJF3078484 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=leadmon.net; c=simple; q=dns; h=x-senderid:authentication-results:from:to:subject:date: message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=nyRjYik0hbgXFFq7U0yUaCn8b9JC7oVm4MjE3BhMg7FnzavKbAEUYnSAvp+01Dn2q PWd1tGhi5k0047Oh12dAKFaV8A8G/s5FSqqq6Ov2qQmTCCxMHxukUQPDvb3O1S+d5jk 0YeyLjeVbaiCBbFOkOOt2SjJr4TCV64+Xbf4sGE= X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v1.0.0 ibm.leadmon.net n9D7HJF3078484 Authentication-Results: ibm.leadmon.net; sender-id=pass header.from=howard@leadmon.net; spf=pass smtp.mfrom=howard@leadmon.net From: "Howard Leadmon" To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:17:14 -0400 Message-ID: <00c401ca4bd5$327de870$9779b950$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcpL1TBDJLY4ptVaR86ukCCXIR8nLg== Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at ibm.leadmon.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Kernel Build issue after doing a cvsup yesterday under 6.4 on x86 - Help (knote_fork) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:51:52 -0000 After running cvsup and doing a buildworld, I tried to make a new kernel, and got the following error.. On my 6.4-STABLE x86 machine, I received the following: cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/dev/em -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c:408: warning: no previous prototype for 'knote_fork' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I have rebuilt this machine many times over the past couple years, and always no problems, till now. If anyone has any ideas on how to resolve this it would be most appreciated.. --- Howard Leadmon - howard@leadmon.net http://www.leadmon.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 08:37:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92561065694 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2338FC1D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2484205bwz.43 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:37:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xP0LdvYqcmRsYwZXkF/vN3TdU0G7U/vOgQ4PY8xLgFE=; b=verQX7kkUboScnaaId1YEhz+2G2buqY4UyG0xRg/wwAxi0Iy+ZVmkJulrrvf+qAR21 Z2BubsjN+qBUEdHFSSwGlvDB6gM9U8FcPJ91A1KAnPCZduR9p8xiapTvzX8bSye338l7 CUfYi2DR+aYBlc2TESxzzj6nPWsXM0GTZFqjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nVReOZ6ZFRRk53w+S1V/9aDaS6tvz8+Wr664u6EMyU/DxpMcw53lEMM0nb7qoVPUeA awA4KCdVTXIJlggfuO44xycK3MkJJijWt8rsaMfv3opEX6iUs3Se9l77HHFDKeEPVOe/ uToQIqm3tVkPtX6nAuAnjP4GCpUZKNw0ZkRj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.20 with SMTP id v20mr431003hbh.208.1255423034844; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:37:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091013002919.GB12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> References: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> <4AD3A8EE.8020708@otenet.gr> <20091013002919.GB12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:37:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Daniel Bye , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:17 -0000 2009/10/13 Daniel Bye > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:08:46AM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Daniel Bye wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up > > > gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my > > > /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and > > > use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling > > > to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the > > > processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in > > > trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. > > > > > > So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I > have > > > edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. > > > If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and > > > not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the > > > mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? > > > > > > I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've > > > read on the web enlightens me... :-/ > > > > > > Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > When not mirroring, I first create the journals and then label the > > resulting adxxxx.journal devices > > In case you are doing a gmirror device, you would not really need the > > separate label step - the gm device name won't change and gmirror is not > > affected if the device names of the individual disks change (the disks > > are marked as part of a mirror and scanned at startup). > > When you are creating the composite gmirror device you are effectively > > labeling it anyway i.e. gmirror label gm0... > > Now if you follow the usual tutorials found in the web you would be > > using gm0 / gm1 but you actually name it any way you wish. > > If you really need to label the separate gmirrored partitions, do it > > after setting up the mirror. > > > > Concerning the order of journals and mirroring, I create the journals > > first, then mirror the result. This has always worked fine for me. > > Thanks much, Manoli. After posting, I came to more or less the same > conclusion, but it's good to get confirmation from someone who clearly > knows more about this stuff than I do! > > I'd still be interested to hear what others think/do. > > As ever, thanks for your time. > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > I've always gmirrored 1st, then created the gjournal then newfs the journal device with the -L and -J flags to label it. I'm not sure if this is correct but ufs2 has hooks into gjournal, and if the journal class inst directly below the ufs layer these hooks might not work correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 09:50:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F401065672 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AB18FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mxe16-0001kO-7U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:04 +0200 Received: from mud.stack.nl ([131.155.141.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:04 +0200 Received: from pino+gmane_os_freebsd_questions by mud.stack.nl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martijn van Buul Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Lines: 29 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mud.stack.nl X-Favourite-Drink: Alcoholic, yet fluid User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Relocating ~/.xsession-errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martijn van Buul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:50:14 -0000 Hi, I've recently installed FreeBSD 8.0RC1 on my Acer Aspire One netbook, and so far things are working out OK. I'm using the SSD model, and since these netbooks have a notoriously slow SSD write speed, I'm trying to get rid of as much writes as possible. Furthermore, reducing writes might make it live longer. One of the remaining issues is ~/.xsession-errors. I'm using GNOME, and many GNOME applications have the nasty habit of spamming .xsession-errors with a lot of debug assertions (which apparently aren't lethal, since noone ever bothered to fix them..), and I know from experience that this file can see a lot of activity. I'd like to relocate this file to a tmpfs ramdisk, if possible. It would be perfect if I could make it log through syslog, since that would allow me to use newsyslog for logrotation (and thus keep the size of the log at bay), but I suspect this is asking too much. In the past, on Fedora Core and older versions of Ubuntu, I used a dirty trick I picked up on a webforum: Have ~/.xsession-errors be owned by root:wheel, and mark it as system immutable. That caused the .xsession-errors to be moved to /tmp, which is exactly where I want it to be, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Instead, it's writing the error log to ~/.xsession-errors.XXXX, with XXXX a random string. Does anyone know an alternate way to move this logfile, or if everything else fails how to silence it? -- Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 10:02:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AEB106568F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC478FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MxeCa-0007mM-Db for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:01:56 +0200 Received: from mud.stack.nl ([131.155.141.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:01:56 +0200 Received: from pino+gmane_os_freebsd_questions by mud.stack.nl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:01:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martijn van Buul Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mud.stack.nl X-Favourite-Drink: Alcoholic, yet fluid User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Relocating ~/.xsession-errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martijn van Buul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:02:10 -0000 * Martijn van Buul: > Does anyone know an alternate way to move this logfile, or if everything > else fails how to silence it? > I forgot to mention that I'm using gdm, but I'm not opposed to changing that. -- Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 10:56:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62290106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121048FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E42183CBD35; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:56:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9DAuAue003176; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:56:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:56:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091013105610.GA3106@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: Subject: error while printing from Java to CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:56:12 -0000 Hello, Some Java applications, like openproj for example, are unable to print to the CUPS printing system; this seems to be a know problem in Java and if you do a search in Don Google you will information and workarounds, like this, for example: http://www.magicdraw.com/main.php?ts=faq&cmd_show=1&menu=faq Diagram printing is not working on Linux OS The problem is related with the Linux cups package update. This problem is Sun Java bug and description of this problem is published in the Java Bug Database: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6633656. To solve diagram printing problem we would suggest to use 1.6.0_10 JVM or later, because this issue is solved in these java versions. If you can not use the 1.6.0_10 JVM or later, other possible solution would be the following: 1.Open the file /etc/cups/printers.conf 2.Before each line with the text , add the following line: Options orientation-requested 3 The referenced http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6633656 explain all the details of the bug... But: I've tried to insert the proposed change in /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf but it does not help. This is with cups-base-1.3.9_3 in a 8-CURRENT. As well it says that there is a fix in Java in 1.6.0_10 or later... I have dk-1.6.0.3p4_10 and it seems no to be fixed :-( Any ideas? matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 11:13:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841371065679 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109C38FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9DBGvX5031692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:17:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4AD460F1.7020405@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:13:53 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: <20091012211339.GA12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> <4AD3A8EE.8020708@otenet.gr> <20091013002919.GB12688@torus.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Bye , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:13:58 -0000 krad wrote: > 2009/10/13 Daniel Bye > > >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:08:46AM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> >>> Daniel Bye wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up >>>> gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my >>>> /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and >>>> use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling >>>> to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the >>>> processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in >>>> trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. >>>> >>>> So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I >>>> >> have >> >>>> edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. >>>> If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and >>>> not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the >>>> mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? >>>> >>>> I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've >>>> read on the web enlightens me... :-/ >>>> >>>> Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> When not mirroring, I first create the journals and then label the >>> resulting adxxxx.journal devices >>> In case you are doing a gmirror device, you would not really need the >>> separate label step - the gm device name won't change and gmirror is not >>> affected if the device names of the individual disks change (the disks >>> are marked as part of a mirror and scanned at startup). >>> When you are creating the composite gmirror device you are effectively >>> labeling it anyway i.e. gmirror label gm0... >>> Now if you follow the usual tutorials found in the web you would be >>> using gm0 / gm1 but you actually name it any way you wish. >>> If you really need to label the separate gmirrored partitions, do it >>> after setting up the mirror. >>> >>> Concerning the order of journals and mirroring, I create the journals >>> first, then mirror the result. This has always worked fine for me. >>> >> Thanks much, Manoli. After posting, I came to more or less the same >> conclusion, but it's good to get confirmation from someone who clearly >> knows more about this stuff than I do! >> >> I'd still be interested to hear what others think/do. >> >> As ever, thanks for your time. >> >> Dan >> >> -- >> Daniel Bye >> _ >> ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) >> - against HTML, vCards and X >> - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ >> >> > > > I've always gmirrored 1st, then created the gjournal then newfs the journal > device with the -L and -J flags to label it. I'm not sure if this is correct > but ufs2 has hooks into gjournal, and if the journal class inst directly > below the ufs layer these hooks might not work correctly. > I've always done it this way too (mirror then journal,) both for the reason given and because of the following from the gjournal(8) manpage: When gjournal is configured on top of gmirror(8) or graid3(8) providers, it also keeps them in a consistent state, thus automatic synchronization on power failure or system crash may be disabled on those providers. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 12:31:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB131065672 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C688FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so9203341gxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oKvlWL00iHhdHqMQvGWcR7rwGB4Ey4s+prt8z1QwrnU=; b=WHwijFGT+FWhr3Gf/dJpkmK+3qOqpqpo8+M+bgYSL+2p+P5SBwx6WVLR0CBpGgLwGP nxpMPILxQ60J/7MLfQGv1rdO9cZp1cej4J39EqdUi337+8FPLCPDHBkP4g1rG5R/vezw x3d/8nshV1YRelsYdh9DjigM0AvhyjFhziaAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vLDlOFvS2h4fZBzmQPFJHLEtCAQCbsqO3OUvJm4BdgWCpxzzoux6qVOUAjecMVImPV 7Pc5Imj9LAj9YVSlOpgXgd4kdYq34r//lVIHfqxEx2KEP5CmWOu0HZ/WEWpCk3GTSd8Y seQ2Y8rQF+BjL/gpn/Aqs8BqD76ZM9REBSDBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.173.5 with SMTP id v5mr12306689ybe.345.1255437067550; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:31:07 -0400 Message-ID: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> From: Brian McCann To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:31:08 -0000 I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, using an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. The machine uses the NetXtreme II card. The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the card shows no carrier in the setup. It started working for a few seconds at one point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), and it detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but promptly went away. If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't appear to work. Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? Thanks! --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 12:40:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AC91065672 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C7028FC18 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42906 invoked by uid 89); 13 Oct 2009 12:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Oct 2009 12:41:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4AD47563.8050206@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:41:07 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian McCann References: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:49 -0000 Brian McCann wrote: > I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, using > an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. The machine uses the NetXtreme II card. > The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the card > shows no carrier in the setup. It started working for a few seconds at one > point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), and it > detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but promptly > went away. If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't appear to > work. > Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? Try forcing the interface to 'up': # ifconfig bce0 up If that works, add it to the /etc/rc.conf: # echo 'ifconfig_bce0="up"' >> /etc/rc.conf Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 12:40:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0521065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from raven.ravenbrook.com (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA49F8FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.145]) by raven.ravenbrook.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9DCMjd5060724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n9DCMjXN059890; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:45 +0100 Message-ID: <59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: nb@ravenbrook.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.8]); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/9883/Tue Oct 13 11:43:35 2009 on raven.ravenbrook.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on raven.ravenbrook.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Cc: Ravenbrook SysAdmins Subject: how does gmirror start up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:52 -0000 I am running a 6.3 system and have had various problems with disk reliability on a key filesystem, probably down to SCSI hardware or drivers. I'm intending to replace that SCSI disk with a pair of SATA disks ad6/7, using gmirror as gm0 (while keeping ad4 as our boot disk). I have set up the mirror and right now I'm part-way through using rsync to transfer the data. But I have a question concerning the underlying operation of GEOM, which is troubling me. I have read the various man pages and handbook pages relating to GEOM and gmirror, but they don't seem to answer this. When I reboot the system, gmirror comes up (because of the line in /boot/loader.conf) and gm0 appears, backed by ad6/7. Where is this configuration information stored? That is, how does the system know to make gm0, with ad6/7 as the backing store. I would expect there to be a file somewhere in /etc with this config information, but I don't see it in the documentation. From reading gmirror(8), I understand that there is a label sector at the ends of ad6 and ad7, identifying them as parts of gm0. But that config information is back-to-front: at boot time the system knows from /etc/fstab that it needs gm0; how does it find the underlying disks? Does the system search the ends of all physically-attached disks, looking for GEOM labels, and automatically make any corresponding GEOM devices? Surely not (that would mean, for instance, that if I took one of these disks out of this machine and put it into another FreeBSD system then that machine would automatically set up gm0 with this disk). Possibly I'm just being dense. Can someone enlighten me? Nick Barnes Ravenbrook Limited From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 13:02:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE11B106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DA98FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9DD2JUk097893; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:02:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n9DD2JUk097893 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255438940; bh=Wbo7MciO9rRvRxoqOLdUoZ3nD1Q4Ya1A/zzBzZ/igJI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AD47A55.2060707@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2013=20Oct=202009=2014:02:13=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Nick=20Barnes=20|CC:=20freebsd -questions@freebsd.org,=20=0D=0A=20Ravenbrook=20SysAdmins=20|Subject:=20Re:=20how=20does=20gmirror=20start =20up?|References:=20<59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com>|In-R eply-To:=20<59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com>|X-Enigmail-Ver sion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp- sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enigF0F0AB4AE5452F29D70E2002"; b=s2xfMhr+HMZ6z9jAAO9+k+U7d9Fx3DR6Hx2Z4CbEzI/16LMSfW2gk0e0pUSw8Nb/8 +cSQZ4Fl2AeWuXyydxWfkItTRyDOCJr8hkT8nYFd2GlO922kZURfYuz1l+HXTd9D+X OQPJSjU9IJOYalLbL/fi6V54Aos1NRj/w+JsOl3M= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AD47A55.2060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:02:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Barnes References: <59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com> In-Reply-To: <59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF0F0AB4AE5452F29D70E2002" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ravenbrook SysAdmins Subject: Re: how does gmirror start up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF0F0AB4AE5452F29D70E2002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick Barnes wrote: > I am running a 6.3 system and have had various problems with disk > reliability on a key filesystem, probably down to SCSI hardware or > drivers. I'm intending to replace that SCSI disk with a pair of SATA > disks ad6/7, using gmirror as gm0 (while keeping ad4 as our boot > disk). I have set up the mirror and right now I'm part-way through > using rsync to transfer the data. But I have a question concerning > the underlying operation of GEOM, which is troubling me. I have read > the various man pages and handbook pages relating to GEOM and gmirror, > but they don't seem to answer this. >=20 > When I reboot the system, gmirror comes up (because of the line in > /boot/loader.conf) and gm0 appears, backed by ad6/7. Where is this > configuration information stored? That is, how does the system know > to make gm0, with ad6/7 as the backing store. >=20 > I would expect there to be a file somewhere in /etc with this config > information, but I don't see it in the documentation. From reading > gmirror(8), I understand that there is a label sector at the ends of > ad6 and ad7, identifying them as parts of gm0. But that config > information is back-to-front: at boot time the system knows from > /etc/fstab that it needs gm0; how does it find the underlying disks? >=20 > Does the system search the ends of all physically-attached disks, > looking for GEOM labels, and automatically make any corresponding GEOM > devices? Surely not (that would mean, for instance, that if I took > one of these disks out of this machine and put it into another FreeBSD > system then that machine would automatically set up gm0 with this > disk). >=20 > Possibly I'm just being dense. Can someone enlighten me? The geom configuration is stored on the disks in question -- I believe it= uses the last cylinder of the drive, but I could be wrong about the detai= ls. On startup, if the appropriate geom modules are loaded into the kernel, geom will "taste" the disks discovered by enumerating the contents of all= =20 ATA, SCSI, USB, etc. busses (ie. read any geom metadata) to see if they a= re part of a RAID array of some type. The RAID will be automatically recrea= ted, and appears to the system as a new device. If there are appropriate entr= ies in /etc/fstab any file systems on it will be mounted. There's no data stored on the filesystem describing the RAID setup. Well= , unless you make a backup of it yourself by dumping the output of 'gmirror= status' somewhere. This means that you can move the disks from one server to another and all= the RAIDs will survive. Actually, it's good enough that it can cope with you= shuffling the disks or installing them with completely different underlyi= ng device names. You would certainly have to avoid a clash of geom device n= ames when doing that -- the names are entirely arbitrary and 'gm0' is only the= de-facto=20 default because it was used in one of the most popular tutorials on the s= ubject.=20 If you think it necessary, you could include the host name in the geom la= bel or otherwise take action to make them globally unique across all your= systems. You can achieve a similar effect for plain disks by using glabel -- this = is a handy way of avoiding the foot-shooting potential of a USB thumb drive th= at maps as da0 on reboot, in place of the real system disk. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:04:47 -0000 2009/10/13 Nick Barnes > I am running a 6.3 system and have had various problems with disk > reliability on a key filesystem, probably down to SCSI hardware or > drivers. I'm intending to replace that SCSI disk with a pair of SATA > disks ad6/7, using gmirror as gm0 (while keeping ad4 as our boot > disk). I have set up the mirror and right now I'm part-way through > using rsync to transfer the data. But I have a question concerning > the underlying operation of GEOM, which is troubling me. I have read > the various man pages and handbook pages relating to GEOM and gmirror, > but they don't seem to answer this. > > When I reboot the system, gmirror comes up (because of the line in > /boot/loader.conf) and gm0 appears, backed by ad6/7. Where is this > configuration information stored? That is, how does the system know > to make gm0, with ad6/7 as the backing store. > > I would expect there to be a file somewhere in /etc with this config > information, but I don't see it in the documentation. From reading > gmirror(8), I understand that there is a label sector at the ends of > ad6 and ad7, identifying them as parts of gm0. But that config > information is back-to-front: at boot time the system knows from > /etc/fstab that it needs gm0; how does it find the underlying disks? > > Does the system search the ends of all physically-attached disks, > looking for GEOM labels, and automatically make any corresponding GEOM > devices? Surely not (that would mean, for instance, that if I took > one of these disks out of this machine and put it into another FreeBSD > system then that machine would automatically set up gm0 with this > disk). > > Possibly I'm just being dense. Can someone enlighten me? > > Nick Barnes > Ravenbrook Limited > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you are right there is a label at the end of the disk, and if you put the drives in another machine with another gmirror enabled box it would see the mirror. If you stack geom classes then the label it stored at the end of the container as if it were a disk. eg if you used gjournal on top of gmirror. Its a very common practise for hardware controllers as well. The dell perc controllers definitely have this labelling as you can import foreign configs into the cards nvram from disk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 13:07:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551441065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D474D8FC1F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so3839gve.39 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:07:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e53rOS1b9UhA3dFzfWEMJv//RsbDhZKyW1IIvlTmy4I=; b=estt6EvFARYjttcKK7hoCf9BO1zrewG9kA9XFCN/tpw3htvGMXSNKuLmJP9PxJYxaO ZD8nhsOZnp3ycr89Nh/EXn+/FF+aWw+iPyF6DWv5UxmkmoqReWE/CIhO39sS0g4alDzc IX/CBQYpav9qbPRjiSn4Eq6Xurg1Qbq26a/u8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dUGKbt1Vys2V/fTRWnTVTKO0ZJxHJl/YDV9ecRRO7lW0/PA7UtwmZjEjTKaWZw6FU3 KonF/FDjtyJ+ydEGSGkh4cXecBsW4Nji9ZuM0FGS+cUba2TSfRNaUnJx3cHJhw6DLGCb jN5d0EcCTFfFB6vFRuKu5DE8KDLe8eqiaC4VA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.226 with SMTP id u34mr501749hbu.80.1255439243356; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:07:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD47A55.2060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <59889.1255436565@thrush.ravenbrook.com> <4AD47A55.2060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Nick Barnes , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ravenbrook SysAdmins Subject: Re: how does gmirror start up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:07:25 -0000 2009/10/13 Matthew Seaman > Nick Barnes wrote: > >> I am running a 6.3 system and have had various problems with disk >> reliability on a key filesystem, probably down to SCSI hardware or >> drivers. I'm intending to replace that SCSI disk with a pair of SATA >> disks ad6/7, using gmirror as gm0 (while keeping ad4 as our boot >> disk). I have set up the mirror and right now I'm part-way through >> using rsync to transfer the data. But I have a question concerning >> the underlying operation of GEOM, which is troubling me. I have read >> the various man pages and handbook pages relating to GEOM and gmirror, >> but they don't seem to answer this. >> >> When I reboot the system, gmirror comes up (because of the line in >> /boot/loader.conf) and gm0 appears, backed by ad6/7. Where is this >> configuration information stored? That is, how does the system know >> to make gm0, with ad6/7 as the backing store. >> >> I would expect there to be a file somewhere in /etc with this config >> information, but I don't see it in the documentation. From reading >> gmirror(8), I understand that there is a label sector at the ends of >> ad6 and ad7, identifying them as parts of gm0. But that config >> information is back-to-front: at boot time the system knows from >> /etc/fstab that it needs gm0; how does it find the underlying disks? >> >> Does the system search the ends of all physically-attached disks, >> looking for GEOM labels, and automatically make any corresponding GEOM >> devices? Surely not (that would mean, for instance, that if I took >> one of these disks out of this machine and put it into another FreeBSD >> system then that machine would automatically set up gm0 with this >> disk). >> >> Possibly I'm just being dense. Can someone enlighten me? >> > > The geom configuration is stored on the disks in question -- I believe it > uses the last cylinder of the drive, but I could be wrong about the > details. > On startup, if the appropriate geom modules are loaded into the kernel, > geom will "taste" the disks discovered by enumerating the contents of all > ATA, SCSI, USB, etc. busses (ie. read any geom metadata) to see if they are > part of a RAID array of some type. The RAID will be automatically > recreated, > and appears to the system as a new device. If there are appropriate > entries in > /etc/fstab any file systems on it will be mounted. > > There's no data stored on the filesystem describing the RAID setup. Well, > unless you make a backup of it yourself by dumping the output of 'gmirror > status' > somewhere. > > This means that you can move the disks from one server to another and all > the > RAIDs will survive. Actually, it's good enough that it can cope with you > shuffling the disks or installing them with completely different underlying > device names. You would certainly have to avoid a clash of geom device > names > when doing that -- the names are entirely arbitrary and 'gm0' is only the > de-facto default because it was used in one of the most popular tutorials on > the subject. If you think it necessary, you could include the host name in > the geom label or otherwise take action to make them globally unique across > all your systems. > > You can achieve a similar effect for plain disks by using glabel -- this is > a > handy way of avoiding the foot-shooting potential of a USB thumb drive that > maps > as da0 on reboot, in place of the real system disk. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > Also worth mentioning zfs config is stored on disk as well in a similar manner albeit a bit more complicated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 14:18:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AFA1065692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D14CF8FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80562 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2009 13:51:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255441919; bh=Qqp9A9UaG1dK/VQxKJPXUhQF0otjhqcoziKxSgWzgF0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6SWJwWIDg0M+EUPPo9TXNU4JImLPVucQPxg1hzwej5hYNZ0idNvipyOwWFDugYvOO9WQCh1AOc2jA9Q/7j8KNsINVyGJK712B5HK9XzAI3teokNDzqOPTFAK2wsdz+jtf1lmlNFFUXVE7cTU7j8GTIbT+lyQG7SfLcjc5L8UrLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NyL074fwLl4EFLTC/p61BPFJOnTJKv0j+UGvu93xIHS2AiQo1vyS7kEyi00SMJghmoqHnU9vos1KCBSGPBhFNT6WDLtt4MRhcf93Age3CuLH4b4T12xZeqG5Ah6FbTDEumkUVpE5e8uRD7Ui9o6Cvm8nsaEDCIM9KlqnTzqowTY=; Message-ID: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: eiX3tmYVM1lX2Sno.QoljSeosVF2oseZQXPsoB3CsLd9rbQ0s.kINN9L7SgxUbAIBHhUmGw7Ji5625cd4LNvsL8JSMsMLlOXjYzti05t0EHULZE2mL43QyQT00RIV4jaX3HVVhe6xDfe4R6RIeqKmYEpXK3v3gsRIADpuexvNNXEDgVLbgGHX4MQ2TiODqMKLgfoTqpLz4rekbL.3USYlG_ZGy0epV_TPCKD_HTeHVaKO7VychDh8sXvxRz6Pq1fySv2JDXsyh3SwCZJOQIV9uxOUulTtT_2nnereFk1s_3ReZrBg40TtlnI6kxWLujq_FZBi5d4PWknSDSBjwD0Du_bb95Hi1na7TG0HtBlGhzZByqN5W7JRuRv7w-- Received: from [167.202.201.4] by web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freebsd jail: web and database server config questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:18:40 -0000 Dear Freebsd people, =A0 To consolditae on resources I have configured a machine to run both a web a= nd database server (powering my database driven website).=20 =A0 Due to security concerns I'm contemplating on introducing a jailed environm= ent on this machine and want to know if this would be feasible. I have a fe= w questions for the freebsd community regarding this approach and hope some= one would give me some advice. =A0 Is it advisable/wise/okay/clever to run a webserver on my host system and a= database server on my jailed system? The webserver will need to connect to= the database system on startup and update the database based on client acc= ess. =A0 However, if a machine gets compromised, it would rather be the webserver, t= herefore running the webserver in the jailed environment seems better to me= . But how could that be done, if the webserver requires to connect through = tcp/ip to the database server running on the host system? I thought that a = key-feature of a jailed system is that it can't access resources outside th= e jail.=20 =A0 And how do I go around when I need to update my host system due to a securi= ty advisory. I heard the jailed environment will not be affected? So basica= lly that means I would need to create a new jail everytime I recompile (as = that's the way I'm using to stay current) =A0 Hope to hear from you, Brgds Dino=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:35:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8983E106568B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caramba696@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444C18FC23 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so9384228gxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:35:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=N6olL85/fFJAQcNQ30vDCHOeYVBjSe7iMofN6qIX2Eo=; b=J5J5XOwSpjjN5g3pFxsSY3KNvALJvXbgd6bq5VbhWoa7melTBekjFTLCEuJfFbzHmS XJ3Y+ffULvjw0jopW3hxtxk4oZh9uurqaCIwCpgt/mmg33/BG1zaGVHI8Jii0M05I+Ul llUtJIJteN1mlfoSu7qsz9AUPePAZuOlNAsYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Utjh6BDx74gWgCY8oVRbQPt14mkgL3nm/UY9/rzxyQtu2lBQFwkmTxIcFQIP9imKLy 7I6WNzi6NCE5Hy89Snp5jzKR0QxTLa3osscc3NDWuiTv+3CbbAdcV4y8Oate5IytfdJ/ JnNb0D9IrKyD5XmKDgXqQLIkpEwepCy432a+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.246.1 with SMTP id t1mr554965agh.96.1255446796448; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:13:16 +0200 Message-ID: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> From: Jacques Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:35:01 -0000 Hello, I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3. On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all: freebsd-client>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1 remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ======================================================= NTP_server 192.168.10.6 2 u 103 1024 1 1.037 -587367 0.002 As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way... My ntpd.conf file looks like: ----------- # File is automatically generated # Do not edit tinker panic 1 tinker step 1 # ntp servers list server 172.30.1.5 # files informations driftfile /etc/ntp.drift # restriction informations restrict default ignore # do not allow request by default restrict 127.0.0.1 # allow localhost for debugging restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify ------------ my ntp.drift file ------------ -101.101 ------------ I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more "compatible" (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:37:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034C91065694 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09138FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so33202762ywh.7 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F1nQ+xVQxCNDDiJfUXnp6pnAjv3Vt6HDUeZrBHEzRhI=; b=dhTNPaGj5lH+cfsck6q4hUycF8+IC7BYsaFUwKNZ8K/HxB/YUqJ2ztheZ4kAVYQxji 7lyr0hceK3UvtBnIIM2D1yf5qz7K5dBIkm63vdK1SsqjFE6ygOgDTowJ4gwmmebEw8Fu 2pTDBoF3ztaWAT3IIN1gL/m/PHUGCie/wh/8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IcrdSgqMkzzdz6hDwH6H2qLwQ1W0jgDKpejJ5A304pSqNoWlQWuuiOp5+AEmBOwLWq yL3hkT0LqoVIaI05PtGHuowOfcBvmnfakRgka/rfZnzlFyNMA/0ruJ9XnMbdfzWgu1XF TTGndYgk1bIspV6EtCHIdIe/pcVGb3/kfDOtM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.91 with SMTP id c27mr508530hbg.51.1255448250240; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:37:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Dino Vliet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd jail: web and database server config questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:37:32 -0000 2009/10/13 Dino Vliet > > Dear Freebsd people, > > To consolditae on resources I have configured a machine to run both a web > and database server (powering my database driven website). > > Due to security concerns I'm contemplating on introducing a jailed > environment on this machine and want to know if this would be feasible. I > have a few questions for the freebsd community regarding this approach and > hope someone would give me some advice. > > Is it advisable/wise/okay/clever to run a webserver on my host system and a > database server on my jailed system? The webserver will need to connect to > the database system on startup and update the database based on client > access. > > However, if a machine gets compromised, it would rather be the webserver, > therefore running the webserver in the jailed environment seems better to > me. But how could that be done, if the webserver requires to connect through > tcp/ip to the database server running on the host system? I thought that a > key-feature of a jailed system is that it can't access resources outside the > jail. > > And how do I go around when I need to update my host system due to a > security advisory. I heard the jailed environment will not be affected? So > basically that means I would need to create a new jail everytime I recompile > (as that's the way I'm using to stay current) > > Hope to hear from you, > Brgds > Dino > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ok jail updates are fairly easy to get around. The way I have dont it for years is to nullfs the host systems /usr into the jail(s) as ro. I also had a copy of /lib /bin /libexec and /sbin under /usr/jailbins. The said dirs in the jails were then sym links to the relevent dir in jailbins eg $ ls -ltr ; pwd drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 107 Jun 25 2008 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 46 Sep 23 10:21 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 106 Sep 23 10:21 lib drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 139 Sep 23 10:22 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6 Sep 23 10:23 libexec /usr/jailbins $ ls -ltr /jails/clamav/root/ | grep "\->" lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Apr 1 2006 sys -> usr/src/sys lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 18 Apr 1 2006 sbin -> /usr/jailbins/sbin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 21 Apr 1 2006 libexec -> /usr/jailbins/libexec lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 17 Apr 1 2006 lib -> /usr/jailbins/lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 17 Apr 1 2006 bin -> /usr/jailbins/bin from fstab /usr /jails/clamav/root/usr nullfs ro 2 0 /jails/clamav/usr.etc /jails/clamav/root/usr/local/etc nullfs ro 2 0 the 2nd line means each jail can have its own dedicated local rc, but it cant be modified from within the jail I then stuck these lines in rc.local on the host system to keep the jailbins update /usr/local/bin/rsync -aH /bin/ /usr/jailbins/bin/ /usr/local/bin/rsync -aH /sbin/ /usr/jailbins/sbin/ /usr/local/bin/rsync -aH /lib/ /usr/jailbins/lib/ /usr/local/bin/rsync -aH /libexec/ /usr/jailbins/libexec/ now when i do a makeworld on the host system the jails inherit everything. You might not always want to do this, but i never had any serious issues. Sticking mysql and apache in jails is fairly straight forward after that, just get them to communicate over ip and make sure you wrap the db internally, and with tcpwrappers and pf/ipf/ipfw You could also look at mod_jail for apache. It looks like it lets you run apache whithout the hassle of setting up a full jailed environment. I havent used it myself though but would be interested to see how others have faired with it. There are also good tools like ezjail with will automate a lot of the jail process for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:38:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A22106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F9F8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so5139eyd.9 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L1MmjBNzQGdkKeSthfm+uFMlXnhHKCdtZqw+ayfzyyE=; b=TWmhlb9onfv4F/lY2BetNsbTDa3XkPDfpK9l19WKR9u+ipzNmZJQz9ayrxc/IisJbO QtLV/TB8/tLYMK9033cxa0lGZOssH+tsQmXl4cQnSP2opU0ukjFVprmKvg8xI/sEpIk/ ZMAqzO6TFpIlnvneKQ75sQ4f46MAe95zV0RbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WEYlldhZVY29TqPk2zyh1KmS1SHZfLmizKZV32QOE3AWrFPn6o888c/xDr1azkgUKI cZn0OHkGR9QdTg6XVhwWCyJnEcR9H7KZICj+Okkh6p98I/Ea4al5IVKT9Ai592Mar/54 qBEhewDpiRzNppRbu5H+XwPSTuzFuxZyexsGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.11 with SMTP id b11mr2557248wef.171.1255448285311; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910130837t29e9e6e9ibc0e32ffbee0eef3@mail.gmail.com> To: Dino Vliet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd jail: web and database server config questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:06 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dino Vliet wrote: > > Dear Freebsd people, > > To consolditae on resources I have configured a machine to run both a web= and database server (powering my database driven website). > > Due to security concerns I'm contemplating on introducing a jailed enviro= nment on this machine and want to know if this would be feasible. I have a = few questions for the freebsd community regarding this approach and hope so= meone would give me some advice. > > Is it advisable/wise/okay/clever to run a webserver on my host system and= a database server on my jailed system? The webserver will need to connect = to the database system on startup and update the database based on client a= ccess. I would recommend either doing it the other way around (webserver inside the jail) or have both web and db inside separate jails. > > However, if a machine gets compromised, it would rather be the webserver,= therefore running the webserver in the jailed environment seems better to = me. But how could that be done, if the webserver requires to connect throug= h tcp/ip to the database server running on the host system? I thought that = a key-feature of a jailed system is that it can't access resources outside = the jail. > It *may* be possible to set your database software to listen on a unix socket inside the jail dir on the host. For example, if your webserver jail is in /usr/jails/httpd/ on the host, you may be able to have your database listen on a unix socket in, say, /usr/jails/httpd/tmp/. Inside the jail, you can point your web app to use the socket inside /tmp/. I'm not sure if this is possible as I never actually implemented it with my setup, but you can try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:38:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6B2106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexei.Volkov@softlynx.ru) Received: from softlynx.ru (softlynx.ru [95.66.187.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6628FC1F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [95.66.135.47]) by softlynx.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF8A19547C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:42 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4AD49C62.3020405@softlynx.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:30 +0400 From: Volkov Alexei User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Automatic dual kernel cd boot amd64/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:38:56 -0000 Hello. Is it possible to get bootable cd with auto selectable amd64/i386 boot? For instance , i have a bootable cd with two kernels: * first is located in /boot/kernel.amd64 * second in /boot/kernel.i386 loader.conf has line /kernel=kernel.amd64/ When it boots on amd64 incompatible hardware it start loading the kernel and returns to the loader prompt showing error "Long mode not supported" or something like that. Is it possible to configure loader.conf or any other place to get automatically started with second kernel.i386 from that point instead of waiting for user interaction? WBR, Alexei Volkov. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:44:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66ECC106568D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f196.google.com (mail-qy0-f196.google.com [209.85.221.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6098FC21 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so8251010qyk.14 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DyqWajtON+IIuOTKuQ91VHuEUW/VbaAhN12PfraWc18=; b=hKLT9jrqQGSqsWROQxBRRRZtFIyqSKQ4v4LC07NG1gSyTVEHvvyVlYXBKXCF3HCaJ4 q/ByG5ey5kJ9dl46vrWC4MK9Oq5bXFRrMkA71jpYNS3E8pfYCHlBaWd//DwRwLVinj9g fI1w7a8KfO+oeokh3kUVGuMvoQxZAU554ns0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=F94oPXxFpT+gU/guLUFoenxHV7iFr+ISimmFJSEcMpgev4oW86zv0emspE8SPNqzdh LW3E5CU6trpVkKXDD7tcvNUXmHcHxz3Bh/Km+/bV3I+4wk60Z2ICPHByGi8rr7ssTz7l fnDP8ZNZzslMWpZUNFoVmITfhqeguc+8XL/NE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.204 with SMTP id l12mr488382hbe.36.1255448687497; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:44:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910130837t29e9e6e9ibc0e32ffbee0eef3@mail.gmail.com> References: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27ade5280910130837t29e9e6e9ibc0e32ffbee0eef3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:44:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Dino Vliet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd jail: web and database server config questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:44:49 -0000 2009/10/13 APseudoUtopia > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dino Vliet wrote: > > > > Dear Freebsd people, > > > > To consolditae on resources I have configured a machine to run both a web > and database server (powering my database driven website). > > > > Due to security concerns I'm contemplating on introducing a jailed > environment on this machine and want to know if this would be feasible. I > have a few questions for the freebsd community regarding this approach and > hope someone would give me some advice. > > > > Is it advisable/wise/okay/clever to run a webserver on my host system and > a database server on my jailed system? The webserver will need to connect to > the database system on startup and update the database based on client > access. > > I would recommend either doing it the other way around (webserver > inside the jail) or have both web and db inside separate jails. > > > > > However, if a machine gets compromised, it would rather be the webserver, > therefore running the webserver in the jailed environment seems better to > me. But how could that be done, if the webserver requires to connect through > tcp/ip to the database server running on the host system? I thought that a > key-feature of a jailed system is that it can't access resources outside the > jail. > > > > It *may* be possible to set your database software to listen on a unix > socket inside the jail dir on the host. For example, if your webserver > jail is in /usr/jails/httpd/ on the host, you may be able to have your > database listen on a unix socket in, say, /usr/jails/httpd/tmp/. > Inside the jail, you can point your web app to use the socket inside > /tmp/. I'm not sure if this is possible as I never actually > implemented it with my setup, but you can try. > you can do this but only if the the db is running on the host system. What you are doing then is open a big whole in the security of the system that will potentially let someone attack the host os via apache->mysql. What i have done on some systems is jail the db and apache in separate jails. and have a shared nullfs writable fs between them. Generally I found it better to make the connection go over ip and heavily wrap it. The added advantage of doing it over ip is that it keeps things separate, and it is far easier to migrate one of the jails onto another box in the future if you start running into capacity issues. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 15:54:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB50106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caramba696@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1636F8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so21280740yxe.7 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p1QqJrKDcasI6nLyR2oe5FczyuTQvkilGOhtudXuI1w=; b=BZnDWo0KubyQEFTMl2ciEu3D4kZW8YU7tcYxEPT57NbVlRc77POKDWM6ssdbKWGRM4 Rtr74P+gSMEDylnpF1lZqBJfOGNpyTKmT7pVA1ry314U1zCtprNPfHL/yq10YyZB6b7C fvniCFVMWyVJ0ED+ci5tQFoDkzjjthtYEEwRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w1KHis1o9Is/yVt+dOs/Y1DofkKeHCgVLB9S9jtXiFlfBDcrOpqJan8sCyVbRuAXDf CQDyzNhTPRxNW7VhV1U7mmlsQA69yFLj23V6iVNVNOkarWZy6OanzpJqcoNF9cG9UTwQ GmcGdoxjK4TzggRCY9xsiHbJ6OJYlhmu/zrHE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.58.2 with SMTP id g2mr4422663aga.73.1255449296424; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:54:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:54:56 +0200 Message-ID: <2345d18f0910130854l363f157eob42e3253c7dad202@mail.gmail.com> From: Jacques Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:54:57 -0000 Hello, I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3. On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all: freebsd-client>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1 remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ======================================================= NTP_server 192.168.10.6 2 u 103 1024 1 1.037 -587367 0.002 As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way... My ntpd.conf file looks like: ----------- # File is automatically generated # Do not edit tinker panic 1 tinker step 1 # ntp servers list server 172.30.1.5 # files informations driftfile /etc/ntp.drift # restriction informations restrict default ignore # do not allow request by default restrict 127.0.0.1 # allow localhost for debugging restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify ------------ my ntp.drift file ------------ -101.101 ------------ I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more "compatible" (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 16:00:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685911065693 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DB158FC20 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49572 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2009 16:00:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G6Ga3T6dMO+8WripZT/JjgRCjFoXFk3/aBJz5KAybnmvaksdqXl7JvFO+FQnYtYCNGX2WRpZYEhygU20tDuHpTf7x3RLJlAQRB+AhhDeix4kZmTN49JKAx9NNerd1yX6hrSIOss4sxyQDUgLWlya4NprsUodtFzOjbAPQdhfRf0= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2009 09:00:54 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: fTv36hIVM1nkGpHQn.CHa_XgF2AGodHuQVfLh6gI0h0x19akX3cvrA_eDI4i0E1sqGF5GoiHTTsoC.iEaBXpY43oyFwv7emvOrxK90sQAOGHEk5AKpRfgLzHAYiBAvJiFKWQoKJX84TP6Xwhv8QHTDkh13NnlF52LqTNRPMHU23uECXSZzStESsC31QgNzUuaLbCleG.i1ny4HilnmmLI_hUOw9PXWjwtK9WIwqgZq0hpssCfpyPqXC9xPfgIhrATScye0F02E_d4cxUIGFMffsfMpOGOsqzhdPOobeW_j0h.0y9Tel6Ff0asYMT69_wV.kpWN4sr44aEHFHRopBrqOPiyktQBQ9eh6mIBAAaQoouMK4WZe7uT.XBczgzTKa0d1HJn7U04cU.7VUjOxT X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7B4F2282C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:00:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091013120053.1fffc868@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:00:55 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:13:16 +0200 Jacques Henry (caramba696@googlemail.com) replied: >Hello, > >I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3. >On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated >in order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to >use a Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the >Windows System the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* >running. The thing is that even if there are NTP traffic between the >client and the Server (NTP Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is >not synchronizing at all: > >freebsd-client>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1 > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset >jitter >======================================================= > NTP_server 192.168.10.6 2 u 103 1024 1 1.037 -587367 >0.002 > > >As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal >way... > >My ntpd.conf file looks like: >----------- ># File is automatically generated ># Do not edit >tinker panic 1 >tinker step 1 > ># ntp servers list >server 172.30.1.5 > ># files informations >driftfile /etc/ntp.drift > ># restriction informations >restrict default ignore # do not allow request by default >restrict 127.0.0.1 # allow localhost for debugging >restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify >------------ > >my ntp.drift file >------------ >-101.101 >------------ > >I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not >RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more >"compatible" (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows >Server? You might want to check out these two URL's for starters: http://lists.ntp.isc.org/pipermail/questions/2007-January/012469.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms884917.aspx -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but they were there to meet the boat. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 16:02:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE64106568F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6428FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9068393; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:02:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9068390; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4AD4A499.5060805@radel.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:02:33 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jacques Henry References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090709000607060602020802" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:02:45 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090709000607060602020802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Henry wrote: > Hello, > > I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3. > On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in > order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a > Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System > the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is > that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP > Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all: > > freebsd-client>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1 > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ======================================================= > NTP_server 192.168.10.6 2 u 103 1024 1 1.037 -587367 > 0.002 > > > As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way... > > My ntpd.conf file looks like: > ----------- > # File is automatically generated > # Do not edit > tinker panic 1 > tinker step 1 My man page for ntp.conf clearly states in regards to the tinker command: The default values of these variables have been carefully optimized for a wide range of network speeds and reliability expectations. In general, they interact in intricate ways that are hard to predict and some combinations can result in some very nasty behavior. Very rarely is it necessary to change the default values; but, some folks cannot resist twisting the knobs anyway and this com- mand is for them. Emphasis added: twisters are on their own and can expect no help from the support group. so the very first thing you might want to try is to comment out the tinker commands, in particular the panic one. I'm not sure that after you set the panic threshold to 1 second you should expect your ntpd to pay any attention to servers with an offset of 587 seconds. If that fails, consider setting ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_hosts="NTP_server" in your /etc/rc.conf and simply stepping to the correct time at boot time. In short, I don't think this has anything with a Windows server being involved, and everything to do with starting off almost 10 minutes off and a config file that says to never make a step correction larger than 1 second and to panic if you see an offset of over 1 second. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090709000607060602020802 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j 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h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NWnH3hmhPfKJ521yZG9jRBArSRI+sJfP1TbvozlgxF0=; b=cE1xCRgqfd2RJBvPOa/LBF3V9WLNItuLxPGywXKdSbuDt3J0JQraMdgLAb3q6aaxEw mFzUqW+7cVMGOehmu6FzCt3p97oLt17tnxsp3TiIAMlU1qDUzn2X3+5HrhUoyO+eSynq Bj2GegTTOoxNlPvJqT+S+CVZDUrXP9HCb1t0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZvoW/a6cYBygjjSohE9Va5Hfkob+OerxPuSvPDtFSueH3Tz7/exLHiM+pbqNshREZ+ AYfXm4rOS8OiUEFJf/Tr6gKR791B8S1Zi/npL8d2gPSLgk0hxJpI3yNW046ktGe4EdDQ dXVdQfnnGjQnj4xyy77+FKoGxkW6eBGUUD8hQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.20 with SMTP id v20mr467561hbh.208.1255449802606; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:03:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130854l363f157eob42e3253c7dad202@mail.gmail.com> References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130854l363f157eob42e3253c7dad202@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:03:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Jacques Henry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:03:25 -0000 2009/10/13 Jacques Henry > Hello, > > I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3. > On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in > order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a > Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System > the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is > that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP > Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all: > > freebsd-client>ntpq -p 127.0.0.1 > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ======================================================= > NTP_server 192.168.10.6 2 u 103 1024 1 1.037 -587367 > 0.002 > > > As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way... > > My ntpd.conf file looks like: > ----------- > # File is automatically generated > # Do not edit > tinker panic 1 > tinker step 1 > > # ntp servers list > server 172.30.1.5 > > # files informations > driftfile /etc/ntp.drift > > # restriction informations > restrict default ignore # do not allow request by default > restrict 127.0.0.1 # allow localhost for debugging > restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify > ------------ > > my ntp.drift file > ------------ > -101.101 > ------------ > > I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not > RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more > "compatible" (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ntpd wont resync if the time difference is to big, as it assumes something is wrong as you would have set the system clock roughly correct. To fix stop ntpd, then do an ntpdate against the server. This should set the time. Now run ntpd again also set the following variables to a server of your choosing to make sure ntpdate is run 1st on boot $ grep ntp /etc/rc.conf* /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_flags="uk.pool.ntp.org" /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_enable="YES" /etc/rc.conf:ntpd_enable="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 16:21:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2F11065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caramba696@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B98FC18 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so9434526gxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:21:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GhSvJiemw21qH4z1laKqDbigjvDKI59j4cBeBe6ly8I=; b=fAcg5nkukm8Xk4+LvmmQpFB6JlJLPD4c7i5pY1Atvd4sHeNZe1wvMWCmK/K4WMyy9Y Tcd/NveEuL3Uv6Uc6mFG2lIoOAxcwvJbemUgajYScfSo3m2KkqOiWDroQY7ObZxr9H4z x4avVpmA7r5bKPSskt4t93MPhbA6elAP0w/LM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Uo4HVSI/kh6vQiscc5G83eRKjR6ErvcegLqv65Pgg/9x0hHuKcmh3uhCdtH70Gbz+S y75YYwUytKmTUMHqKSrFFitXkyVyNgsxVL7UXOaPF9DcCpURJvLdtMpSXzaSkXn0fdVZ q8iy3dtgWPDWXqDTF4F4Je54eeQBSgFyQaviU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.28.2 with SMTP id f2mr4539688agj.16.1255450895516; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:21:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130920k7838dfb4s8fbbd363ed3a4ca4@mail.gmail.com> References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130854l363f157eob42e3253c7dad202@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130920k7838dfb4s8fbbd363ed3a4ca4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:21:35 +0200 Message-ID: <2345d18f0910130921g17b8d9fdy8fdb99bd5a0e8cf4@mail.gmail.com> From: Jacques Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:21:36 -0000 > > ntpd wont resync if the time difference is to big, as it assumes something > is wrong as you would have set the system clock roughly correct. To fix stop > ntpd, then do an ntpdate against the server. This should set the time. Now > run ntpd again > > also set the following variables to a server of your choosing to make sure > ntpdate is run 1st on boot > > $ grep ntp /etc/rc.conf* > /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_flags="uk.pool.ntp.org" > /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_enable="YES" > /etc/rc.conf:ntpd_enable="YES" > > I cannot do that because I have no Internet access... so the very first thing you might want to try is to comment out the tinker > commands, in particular the panic one. I'm not sure that after you set the > panic threshold to 1 second you should expect your ntpd to pay any attention > to servers with an offset of 587 seconds. If that fails, consider setting > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_hosts="NTP_server" > > in your /etc/rc.conf and simply stepping to the correct time at boot time. > > In short, I don't think this has anything with a Windows server being > involved, and everything to do with starting off almost 10 minutes off and a > config file that says to never make a step correction larger than 1 second > and to panic if you see an offset of over 1 second. > I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10 minutes of time difference) I even tried to "force" the sync: U450XA0A0800650>nstop ntp U450XA0A0800650>ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf U450XA0A0800650>nstart ntp In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't totally compliant with the client... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 16:45:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265361065676 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5C58FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9068494; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:45:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9068497; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:44:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4AD4AE89.6010802@radel.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:44:57 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jacques Henry References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130854l363f157eob42e3253c7dad202@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130920k7838dfb4s8fbbd363ed3a4ca4@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130921g17b8d9fdy8fdb99bd5a0e8cf4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2345d18f0910130921g17b8d9fdy8fdb99bd5a0e8cf4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000607000607090103020208" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:45:14 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000607000607090103020208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Henry wrote: > I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10 > minutes of time difference) The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time. Slewing 587 seconds takes days. > > I even tried to "force" the sync: > > U450XA0A0800650>nstop ntp > U450XA0A0800650>ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf > U450XA0A0800650>nstart ntp > Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with the -q? How about you try simple: ntpdate the_windows_server and see what that does? After that look in /var/log/messages. > In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't totally > compliant with the client... Could be, but ntpq was showing that your ntpd was accepting time data from the Windows server at least on some level. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms000607000607090103020208 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2Mqp4 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<20091013130829.b5279603.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [OT] Service that provides security questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0000 I know that various companies use a pretty crazy security question system if your forget your account password and you can't use email to reset it. It seems to be the same system used by the credit agencies when you ask for a credit report the first time. It's the system where they ask you 6 or 7 questions and you have to get most of them right. You know, when some of the questions have no answer, like "What year did you live at 123 Baker St" when you've never lived there, so you have to select "no matching answer". Those who have dealt with one of these systems know what I'm talking about. I have a hard time believing each of these companies sets up such a system on their own, and I have a feeling that there's a 3rd party that compiles the data for them. Can anyone refer me to such a company? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 17:21:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E10110656AB for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heiner_ej@yahoo.de) Received: from n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA05C8FC3B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2009 17:21:15 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.152] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2009 17:21:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp205.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Oct 2009 17:21:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 708116.76796.bm@omp205.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20493 invoked by uid 60001); 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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:14 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <20091013120022.BE83310656C7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:14 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Heiner_Strau=DF?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091013120022.BE83310656C7@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [ports/science/paraview]: /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl: no event type or button # or keysym X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:17 -0000 > =0A=0A> Before posting a PR I'll ask whether this error I receive after a= fresh =0A> installation of paraview from ports today on FreeBSD 8.0-RC1/am= d64 is an =0A> serious issue or something related on misconfiguration.=0A> = =0A> Besides, tcl/tk 8.4 is up to date and present on the system.=0A> Hope = someone can help,=0A> =0A> regards,=0A> Oliver=0A> =0A> --=0A> =0A> =0A> Pa= raView error: InitializeTcl failed=0A> Tk_Init error: Can't find a usable t= k.tcl in the following directories:=0A> /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk= 8.4=0A> =0A> /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl: no event type or but= ton # or =0A> keysym=0A> no event type or button # or keysym=0A> while= executing=0A> "bind Listbox {=0A> %W yview scroll [expr {- (%D / 120)= * 4}] units=0A> }"=0A> (file "/usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/listb= ox.tcl" line 182)=0A> invoked from within=0A> "source /usr/local/lib/p= araview-2.4/tk8.4/listbox.tcl"=0A> (in namespace eval "::" script line= 1)=0A> invoked from within=0A> "namespace eval :: [list source [file = join $::tk_library $file.tcl]]"=0A> (procedure "SourceLibFile" line 2)= =0A> invoked from within=0A> "SourceLibFile listbox"=0A> (in name= space eval "::tk" script line 4)=0A> invoked from within=0A> "namespac= e eval ::tk {=0A> SourceLibFile button=0A> SourceLibFile = entry=0A> SourceLibFile listbox=0A> SourceLibFile menu=0A= > SourceLibFile panedwindow=0A> SourceLibFile ..."=0A> = invoked from within=0A> "if {$::tk_library ne ""} {=0A> if {[string= equal $tcl_platform(platform) "macintosh"]} {=0A> proc ::tk::Sour= ceLibFile {file} {=0A> if {[catch {=0A> names= p..."=0A> (file "/usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4/tk.tcl" line 397)= =0A> invoked from within=0A> "source /usr/local/lib/paraview-2.4/tk8.4= /tk.tcl"=0A> ("uplevel" body line 1)=0A> invoked from within=0A> = "uplevel #0 [list source $file]"=0A> =0A> =0A> This probably means that tk = wasn't installed properly.=0A> =0A=0AHello,=0Athis happens because Xorg cha= nged the event model in 7.4 and Tk not. A quick fix is to comment out the m= ouse events in paraview. A better fix is to patch Tk, someone already wrote= it.=0A=0AGreetings,=0AHeiner=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 17:27:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913D01065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D018FC1C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB0F1E22D; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9DHRWKW001510; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:27:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Martijn van Buul Message-Id: <20091013192732.839699dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Martijn van Buul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Relocating ~/.xsession-errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:27:34 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Martijn van Buul wrote: > I'd like to relocate this file to a tmpfs ramdisk, > if possible. Have you tried using a symlink? I'm not sure if this will work across partitions... > Does anyone know an alternate way to move this logfile, or if everything > else fails how to silence it? Symlink to /dev/null? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:33:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C391065694 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E768FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:33:33 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.193] ([24.201.201.211]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KRG00M8RRFUM830@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AD4B9EA.5070304@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:33:30 -0400 From: Martin Turgeon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: How can I get >100 connections in FIN_WAIT_2 state from the same IP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:33:33 -0000 Hi everyone, I would like to know if anyone knows the reason why I get a lot of connections (more than 100) from the same IP in FIN_WAIT_2 state. Refering to this diagram (http://www.jxos.org/Projects/TCP/tcpstate.html), the connection enter in FIN_WAIT_1 when the server closes the connection and in FIN_WAIT_2 when the client ACK the FIN from the server. For the connection to stay in FIN_WAIT_2, the client must never send his FIN, right? In this case the connections are on port 80. Is it a problem with the client's browser or OS? Is it possible that some mobile devices doesn't close their connections correctly to save bandwidth and battery? I know this isn't specific to FreeBSD, but thanks for your answer anyway Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:28:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9EC1065692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364898FC25 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MxjO4-0007wH-NK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:08 +0100 Received: from [92.237.59.138] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MxjO4-0001mI-3w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: <9A3A5718E988446A83A59583AB2D2CDA@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <815964.80537.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:34:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:34:58 +0000 Subject: Re: freebsd jail: web and database server config questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:28:58 -0000 I'm no expert but i'll give this a go. > Is it advisable/wise/okay/clever to run a webserver on my host > system and a database server on my jailed system? The webserver > will need to connect to the database system on startup and > update the database based on client access. A key concept in securing a system is defence in depth. Personally, I would setup two jails on the system and run the database in one jail and the webserver in the other. That way, if one of the two became compromised, the intruder would still have to do some work to get system root access. > However, if a machine gets compromised, it would rather be the > webserver, therefore running the webserver in the jailed > environment seems better to me. But how could that be done, if > the webserver requires to connect through tcp/ip to the > database server running on the host system? I thought that a > key-feature of a jailed system is that it can't access > resources outside the jail. Your correct that a jail is almost entirely self-contained, but no more so than a standalone system - and a standalone system can still communicate with other systems using network communications. In (exactly) the same way, a process in one jail can still communicate with a process in another jail. For example, say you were using MySQL and Apache Webserver. If the two processes were running on two different systems, they can communicate with each other via a network connection on port 3306. As a jailed system is a virtual-standalone system, each of them would have a virtual-network card, and so two seperate IP addresses. Thus, the two processes could communicate with each other in exactly the same way as the two actually-standalone systems. > And how do I go around when I need to update my host system due > to a security advisory. I heard the jailed environment will not > be affected? So basically that means I would need to create a > new jail everytime I recompile (as that's the way I'm using to > stay current) Your correct, recompiling the host system does not affect the jailed systems. However there are ways around that. I use a tool called ezjail. It allows you to update a jail with a single command. See http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ and the handbook for more details. Jazz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:39:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFD81065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout016.mac.com (asmtpout016.mac.com [17.148.16.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCC38FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:39:50 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp016.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRG00EFTUICDK00@asmtp016.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Martin Turgeon In-reply-to: <4AD4B9EA.5070304@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:39:48 -0700 References: <4AD4B9EA.5070304@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How can I get >100 connections in FIN_WAIT_2 state from the same IP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:39:51 -0000 On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Martin Turgeon wrote: > I would like to know if anyone knows the reason why I get a lot of > connections (more than 100) from the same IP in FIN_WAIT_2 state. That IP is probably running a web proxy or possibly some kind of spider. It could also be malicious, trying to exploit webserver vulnerabilities, etc-- search your logs for that IP and see what it is doing. > In this case the connections are on port 80. Is it a problem with the > client's browser or OS? Is it possible that some mobile devices > doesn't > close their connections correctly to save bandwidth and battery? Yes, it's not uncommon for various platforms to simply drop connections rather than closing them properly. You can run tcpdrop to forcibly get rid of them, but they should time out within a few minutes anyway. If you believe the remote IP is being abusive, consider firewalling it.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08629106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62158FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so21667850yxe.7 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:42:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MgXtSW5q5wlMVsRTO0QfO2Eq7Y9ZTcyB1O5Lefwd1ZQ=; b=Cl+aFZwBZ57Nm3I5JNIaqOKADHf4ywbXdxJGKsG9UnKzXQLINoUvWCdEJniOLSEeE+ kHByjiRkDyEz2yk/2jvsz/4giwA4Hp8po5B2paSQtcP8mR16J9m2VL4wcKnr35DOZiGO Kg1nov8VDNs1jumCiJTeGJeDpjHaPq6oAl1g0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EEnFLRio48LozyPnHvRQuKYNmzjhqKgzDklax2o/UEwGZvwcotQNHt8nGgAIdCn8y2 iB6MT2VbkmTM9E+yqkewYa8rKf7MJJn0bneCNXpdA8uZQS1R3kNfdfkz2wWIp5rSHR8D 2Ppf4KnlG7n6LH7Kxiw4AkqfntApaaVNm7Oj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.176.38 with SMTP id d38mr6356127anp.12.1255459342805; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98ac902a0910121745h204124ear51139091572676f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <98ac902a0910120214m29d299b5o6aa58fdba45c9f95@mail.gmail.com> <98ac902a0910121745h204124ear51139091572676f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:42:19 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Alex Jurkiewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restore(8)ing new / -- boots on metal but not in a VM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:42:24 -0000 On 10/12/09, Alex Jurkiewicz wrote: > 2009/10/13 Tim Judd : >> Is the virtual machine using SCSI emulation to boot, or is it using IDE? >> >> SCSI drives are da(4), IDE drives are ata(4) [aka ad(4)] >> > > The dump was taken from an ad0 device on physical hardware, and I'm > attempting to restore to the same, just on virtual hardware. > >> If the boot blocks (maybe boot0 specific) point to an ad/ata device, >> and the virtual machine is SCSI, it won't find the boot sectors. > > So, if I make a dumpfile of / on an ad(4) device, I can't restore it > to a da(4) device and expect it to boot? I guess at minimum I'll need > two copies of this image if I want to roll it out on machines with > both sorts of drive, right? > > Thanks, > AJ > That's part of my point, I don't run with boot0, so it may be one of it's features. My suggestion is to check the VM config and see if you can emulate an IDE ad(4) device instead of the possible SCSI da(4) device that vmware/virtualbox may setup. I'm almost positive (not 100% because I don't have either one of those installed at the moment) that both those products default to a SCSI device. Let us know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE741065676 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B128FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so9576342gxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Av7ROxf/Wo5gRbwhU73NVRYx3LJKOsBOluPlFYyqCEQ=; b=wF9WLlobdiUKz7GovWNVu+travspqdvtJAIvXjOB8//bsR9EjZ12Imkqh8Wtp9uTTm ROUaPsLkkWguHC2G0iNSgELbogHGOC1qRVa1ONN/vzuU54hWQ4yUhEOTMTrznjY0IpXf TDIAaBePP4AbHAw41VhGWnHac35M/FhxMsUQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZEJ9sGfjRngMKvXin5q9KlL0hzavkU6pL8xbp+j9D6BGvPpnqOVf2UsHlYOgPt65mm 1VN8JRNjqOwQoUO1mG9RhG2p0iYFnatbz5CNibL1G1RlETaOpe3lsVtMrt2E0dVLWEmc zYrYKlX6qa2csPwnHHyDTMnx1hvIo5IHfFWPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.201.2 with SMTP id d2mr6295016anq.197.1255459502207; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:45:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Marwan Sultan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: server specification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:45:03 -0000 On 10/12/09, Marwan Sultan wrote: > > Hello gurus, > > > > Im going to a new server, and i donot want to have a problem.. > > May please anyone advice me of any feed back of FreeBSD 7.2 with the > following specification: > > any problems? > > > > > > 1x Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 > Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2x 4MB L2 > Cache LGA 775 > > 2GB DDR2 ECC > > 3WARE RAID SATA 2 ports > > 2x 250GB SATA in RAID 1 > > > > So any problems with quad kentsfield and FBSD 7.2 ? > > > > thank you in advance. > > > > Marwan Sultan Certain OEMs (ahem, Dell) I don't pick due to it's known legacy support or Technical Support unsupporting an OS that they don't get paid for. Even if it's a hardware problem, they ask "try to duplicate the problem in windows, then we'll be able to support you". I turn Dell down, when I deal with my customers. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:46:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544A8106568B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobias.rehbein@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4178FC2F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B70123AF2F5; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:13:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [95.88.224.31] (helo=sushi.pseudo.local) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1Mxlrt-0007ZW-00; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:13:06 +0200 Received: from sushi.pseudo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9DIDOp2007550; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:13:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tobi@sushi.pseudo.local) Received: (from tobi@localhost) by sushi.pseudo.local (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9DIDOEl007549; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:13:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tobi) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:13:24 +0200 From: Tobias Rehbein To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20091013181324.GA1752@sushi.pseudo.local> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20091011183146.GA1258@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091011183146.GA1258@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Sender: tobias.rehbein@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/D6nMjHltOVr6UiVHG2NG1Omcrzy/MXyE50oTU 3BzcyHqfqmS762VgJESC9lhBmYrMwHTt3saFh9YlwYJh+HCdwh sWVcAuaNpoCRCJa85VEQ== Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: music file in /tmp/XXX/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:46:33 -0000 Am Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:31:48AM -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: > is there a freebsd app that will take my music file, 18 of them in /tmp/XXX, > all named ogg files, and burn them to a CD? You might take a look at audio/mp3burn. Despite it's name it burns ogg files just fine: mp3burn *.ogg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 19:21:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A016A10656C9 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962988FC21 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:21:24 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,552,1249250400"; d="txt'?scan'208";a="285392203" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2009 21:21:22 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id A88361B0766; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:21:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:21:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=+permail-20091013192116f0889e8400007575-a_best01+ Cc: Subject: whacky `fc-list` output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:21:25 -0000 This is a MIME encoded multipart message. --+permail-20091013192116f0889e8400007575-a_best01+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi there, when i do `fc-list` the output looks rather odd. `fc-cache -f` doesn't help. the output looks the same using different shells. cheers. ps: i'm running FreeBSD otaku 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r197914: Sat Oct 10 02:58:19 CEST 2009 root@otaku:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARUNDEL i386 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text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: server specification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:34:36 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:45:02 -0600 Tim Judd (tajudd@gmail.com) replied: >Certain OEMs (ahem, Dell) I don't pick due to it's known legacy >support or Technical Support unsupporting an OS that they don't get >paid for. Even if it's a hardware problem, they ask "try to duplicate >the problem in windows, then we'll be able to support you". > >I turn Dell down, when I deal with my customers. I have had excellent results with both Dell and HP. In the case of Dell, twice they have shipped over night parts I required that were under warranty at no cost to myself. I think it is a little naive to feel that a company is suppose to support any product that they are not actively associated with. There cheaper models do use quite a bit of legacy products; however, the intermediate and top end machines are far better. They also offer the customer far more ways to customize the product. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com The bugs you have to avoid are the ones that give the user not only the inclination to get on a plane, but also the time. Kay Bostic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 20:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F61A1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244FC8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MxnXM-00008d-Ra for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:00:00 +0200 Received: from mud.stack.nl ([131.155.141.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:00:00 +0200 Received: from pino+gmane_os_freebsd_questions by mud.stack.nl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:00:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martijn van Buul Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20091013192732.839699dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mud.stack.nl X-Favourite-Drink: Alcoholic, yet fluid User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Relocating ~/.xsession-errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martijn van Buul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:00:04 -0000 * Polytropon: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:19 +0000 (UTC), Martijn van Buul > wrote: >> I'd like to relocate this file to a tmpfs ramdisk, >> if possible. > > Have you tried using a symlink? I'm not sure if this will > work across partitions... Symlinks work across partitions, but the problem is that symlinks (or hardlinks for that matter..) won't work here. GDM is responsible for setting up the redirection, and before doing so it moves the existing .xsession-errors to .xsession-errors.old. This is intentional, so in case of a suddenly terminating X session the old logging of the previous session is still available. This means that the (symbolic) link will just end up being moved to .xsession-errors.old, thus defeating the purpose. >> Does anyone know an alternate way to move this logfile, or if everything >> else fails how to silence it? > > Symlink to /dev/null? :-) Alas :) Thanks for thinking along with me. -- Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 21:31:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A1610656A3 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimm@itartass.spb.ru) Received: from mail.itartass.spb.ru (itartass2-6.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.188.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D988FC29 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.itartass.spb.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.itartass.spb.ru (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n9DLRnNJ027032 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:27:49 +0400 Received: from localhost (corbiere.static.corbina.ru [85.21.168.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay.itartass.spb.ru (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n9DLRkrB027027 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:27:46 +0400 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:27:04 +0000 From: glimm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014012704.6e42d7ca@itartass.spb.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2b1 (relay.itartass.spb.ru [81.3.188.134]); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:27:46 +0400 (MSD) Subject: cdma modem Ubiquam UM-300 and FreeBSD 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:31:42 -0000 Hello. Has the someone to run the pcmcia modem Ubiquam UM-300 under FreeBSD? Modem is defined in the system, but ppp is responsible "Warning: Chat script failed" when dialing. kldload umodem.ko kldload uplcom.ko kldload uart.ko dmesg pccard0: (manufacturer=0x015d, product=0x4c45, function_type=254) at function 0 pccard0: CIS info: Ubiquam, UM-300, , uart2: at port 0x400-0x408 irq 20 function 1 config 63 on pccard0 uart2: [FILTER] ppp.log Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set device /dev/ttyu2 Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set phone #777 Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 "" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set login Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set authname mobile Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set authkey ******** Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: skylink: add default HISADDR Oct 14 01:20:30 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode). Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: /dev/pts/4: dial Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Phone: #777 Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 14 01:20:31 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 14 01:20:36 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Expect timeout Oct 14 01:20:36 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 14 01:20:36 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Chat: Expect timeout Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Warning: Chat script failed Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 0 packets in, 0 packets out Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Wed Oct 14 01:20:31 2009 Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed Oct 14 01:20:41 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead Oct 14 01:21:04 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Command: /dev/pts/4: quit Oct 14 01:21:04 laptop ppp[2722]: tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 21:42:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB70106568D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692888FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mxp8D-0003wn-3Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:42:09 +0200 Received: from mud.stack.nl ([131.155.141.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:42:09 +0200 Received: from pino+gmane_os_freebsd_questions by mud.stack.nl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:42:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martijn van Buul Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mud.stack.nl X-Favourite-Drink: Alcoholic, yet fluid User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Relocating ~/.xsession-errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martijn van Buul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:42:10 -0000 * Martijn van Buul: > Hi, > > I've recently installed FreeBSD 8.0RC1 on my Acer Aspire One netbook, and so > far things are working out OK. I'm using the SSD model, and since these > netbooks have a notoriously slow SSD write speed, I'm trying to get rid of as > much writes as possible. Furthermore, reducing writes might make it live > longer. OK, I "fixed" my own problem, but I'm not overly happy with it. Apparently this filename and location are compile-time constants, so I had to revert to making a patch and compiling my own package. I would've loved to avoid this since it would make updating harder, but alas. It's a bit ironic to see that in a world littered of XML schemas, config files, gconf-voodoo and other configuration options you STILL end requiring a patched binary. Ah well :) -- Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 21:51:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03401065676 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2948FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MxpG8-0007w7-MC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:50:20 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-8-200.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.8.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:50:20 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-8-200.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:50:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:50 -0400 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <4AD4B9EA.5070304@optiksecurite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-8-200.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: How can I get >100 connections in FIN_WAIT_2 state from the same IP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:51:35 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Martin Turgeon wrote: >> I would like to know if anyone knows the reason why I get a lot of >> connections (more than 100) from the same IP in FIN_WAIT_2 state. > > That IP is probably running a web proxy or possibly some kind of > spider. It could also be malicious, trying to exploit webserver > vulnerabilities, etc-- search your logs for that IP and see what it is > doing. > >> In this case the connections are on port 80. Is it a problem with the >> client's browser or OS? Is it possible that some mobile devices >> doesn't >> close their connections correctly to save bandwidth and battery? > > Yes, it's not uncommon for various platforms to simply drop > connections rather than closing them properly. You can run tcpdrop to > forcibly get rid of them, but they should time out within a few > minutes anyway. If you believe the remote IP is being abusive, > consider firewalling it.... > This is also common from the differences in TCP/IP stacks across various platforms. Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc are all slightly different in this regard. If you're running a web server you can set the following in /etc/sysctl.conf in an attempt to mitigate. Don't know if the timeout period can be altered. net.inet.tcp.fast_finwait2_recycle=1 This won't stop it from happening but it will trim the pool down some. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 21:53:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08821065694 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCBD8FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:53:42 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,553,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="285401633" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2009 23:23:57 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id DEFB91B07BE; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:23:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:23:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Kevin Kinsey , Randi Harper , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AD23C1C.8040300@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sysinstall colours X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:53:42 -0000 Kevin Kinsey schrieb am 2009-10-11: > Alexander Best wrote: > >>Seriously?!?!?! All the problems with sysinstall, and your idea is > >>to > >>change > >>the color? Are you trying to start a bikeshed? If so, I prefer > >>pink. > >>-- randi > I'm painting the little girl's room next week and might have > some leftover interior latex, if that will do. Oh, but, it's > outside, so prolly not. Sorry. Or, do you want your pink > bikeshed in the garage? ;-) > >current developers don't seem to have any interest in improving > >sysinstall. so > >it's important to get new people involved in freebsd. and the way > >to do that > >is with an attractive looking installer and an easy installation > >process imo. > I don't want to be harsh, but do you know what you're talking about? > Randi, for one, has taken on the zombie known as sysinstall with a > nice big shotgun, and is attempting to keep adding a few features > here/there as needed to keep up with necessities while other > developers (AFAIK) work on other projects, including, at last count, > a couple differnet possibilities for installers. It's apparently > been rather daunting work, and, as a result, the new installer, > whatever its name is/will be, isn't ready for inclusion with 8.0. > However, a day is coming ... > Kevin Kinsey just did a quick research and google soc sponsored the finstaller in 2007 and the bsdinstaller in 2005. personally if i spent a lot of time on such a project i'd be expecting it to get integrated into the base system. if not i'd get rather upset and would probably switch to linux or opensolaris. just my 2 cents. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 22:08:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0EB106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f233.google.com (mail-yx0-f233.google.com [209.85.210.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E378FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe22 with SMTP id 22so6329393yxe.3 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.199.3 with SMTP id b3mr6025339anq.27.1255471685953; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0016e68e80b7ddecc30475d84700@google.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:08:05 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: laptops and notebooks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:08:06 -0000 hi, Does anyone here use FreeBSD or PC-BSD with HP TouchSmart laptops/notebooks? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 22:33:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5005106568F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5B28FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so62935fge.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-operating-system; bh=GagDg6kJnWQm2b4JG1y7rh2oe0K5Re02iVlsk3IGO1c=; b=tt2SQYtPrsVqUS84XTTYzYp3EsqlTeyawyUCx4CW4LmVOOSPdrKquoXCnBDDhKXpF7 /EhiYIOXlmMgBFcjlj0l98t2UvdIO7TR7k17VZpiHkoQYX2Cs29Kco3q4phxKUPOfXrg 0mHtC/2A+kI0FimV5tKsZCT7u1Ek6vv99wRrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=BM4/QxOwkuTva9CvsGtxfQVM6hPkkTmbY7Np+SaFzbAlBMF9DGLLPiF3xKz5asXOSA 2HwPBeOGTRGbue3WSMkytBmc3650pEJO9qW2Kaa5VGcwdR1M123kXOpcU6bckhtbdZKb o/wTMpfhHjfc8GbBxODytH8mBbr8RKJWZflMc= Received: by 10.86.228.3 with SMTP id a3mr2486188fgh.51.1255473191527; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aperture_lab ([77.66.145.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm698836fga.20.2009.10.13.15.33.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aperture_lab (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:33:08 +0400 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:33:08 +0400 From: Jeff Laine To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20091013223307.GA70023@free.bsd.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Laine , Michael Powell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AD4B9EA.5070304@optiksecurite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I get >100 connections in FIN_WAIT_2 state from the same IP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:33:13 -0000 On Tue,13-10-2009 [17:50:00], Michael Powell wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Martin Turgeon wrote: > >> I would like to know if anyone knows the reason why I get a lot of > >> connections (more than 100) from the same IP in FIN_WAIT_2 state. > > > > That IP is probably running a web proxy or possibly some kind of > > spider. It could also be malicious, trying to exploit webserver > > vulnerabilities, etc-- search your logs for that IP and see what it is > > doing. > > > >> In this case the connections are on port 80. Is it a problem with the > >> client's browser or OS? Is it possible that some mobile devices > >> doesn't > >> close their connections correctly to save bandwidth and battery? > > > > Yes, it's not uncommon for various platforms to simply drop > > connections rather than closing them properly. You can run tcpdrop to > > forcibly get rid of them, but they should time out within a few > > minutes anyway. If you believe the remote IP is being abusive, > > consider firewalling it.... > > > > This is also common from the differences in TCP/IP stacks across various > platforms. Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc are all slightly different in this > regard. > > If you're running a web server you can set the following in /etc/sysctl.conf > in an attempt to mitigate. Don't know if the timeout period can be altered. > > net.inet.tcp.fast_finwait2_recycle=1 > > This won't stop it from happening but it will trim the pool down some. Hi, maybe you'll find this info useful as well: >From man pf.conf: [...] Options tcp.finwait The state after both FINs have been exchanged and the connec- tion is closed. Some hosts (notably web servers on Solaris) send TCP packets even after closing the connection. Increas- ing tcp.finwait (and possibly tcp.closing) can prevent block- ing of such packets. [...] It looks like this pf tunable has a 45s default value: #pfctl -st [...] tcp.finwait 45s [...] Setting pf optimization to 'aggressive' changes it to 30s value. -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 22:40:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847711065692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (mail1.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4138FC20 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.vmeta.jp (attsi1-src.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.253.2]) by mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940288ED90 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:23:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp (rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.6]) by smtp.vmeta.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF62AEBC0 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:23:11 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4AD4FDC5.7010403@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:23:01 +0900 From: Kouichiro Iwao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: too noisy virtualbox messages on dmesg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:40:48 -0000 Hi. I'm using VirtualBox 3.0.51 on 8-RC1 and it is properly working but too many messages are dumped on dmesg like below. The message blows off which I really need. Please give me instructions how to stop it or how to make it to be dumped somewhere else. [meta@trueno ~]$ dmesg | tail VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec2e28dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1c78dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1738dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1738dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=crypto ppDev=0xec87e8dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=crypto ppDev=0xec87e8dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc -- Iwao, Koichiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 22:46:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E93F1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB738FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so22162010yxe.7 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:46:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QYaTMhHwm8WVS/6PjaIsdomdFVzMS8zKPsCAObUywhg=; b=OSqixp1Kisgb9tGxchPZCg17MJE8lV+xoYqw8lIB6s5unOjtmMisziZJpmJx1VwaVo gaIa44lc11b1l7Ju4AzB5P7p9wohdtoMPXYugGiCFySkVHdAlgX+Z+LYUqULLKCnjIRf y6mNCup8TgjAw5JOqRvXVySKhMQ6UENiV49V8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nJqtEiaF8iichuiT4fbHcvAMYM1XMRfIXN+6JXslaETjRnRGqDuwZly8kY9zIZcIat Lh0+FQgqKLla5I6IzGnm3viI4MSuJGTS3Pe8xBQ/JryG/WJFkdOXOgNbVxMvZ0Sp0rq5 YKxYtHGx3ftUkFU1+RJ9EDCI24Upzdcon9kS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.87.17 with SMTP id p17mr4077529ybl.84.1255474001106; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:46:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD47563.8050206@ibctech.ca> References: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> <4AD47563.8050206@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: <2b5f066d0910131546u44a2db57ve8232c63b8d943d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Brian McCann To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:46:42 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Brian McCann wrote: >> I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, usi= ng >> an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. =A0The machine uses the NetXtreme II ca= rd. >> =A0The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the ca= rd >> shows no carrier in the setup. =A0It started working for a few seconds a= t one >> point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), and= it >> detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but prom= ptly >> went away. =A0If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't app= ear to >> work. >> Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? > > Try forcing the interface to 'up': > > # ifconfig bce0 up > > If that works, add it to the /etc/rc.conf: > > # echo 'ifconfig_bce0=3D"up"' >> /etc/rc.conf > > Steve > Thanks for the suggestion. I just tried it, but still get "no carrier" for the status. --Brian --=20 _-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 01:19:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA9C106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265D08FC12 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so34391873ywh.7 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HaCgXQvC/dvQpKJrjPCTTPlTg2mpgOKVy7QmSkFGjpM=; b=S8kYZ5k7dLFiTNyE2wrEC0LYOGuWWEOzJFlKP0n7xMOdEbck8EPywKkEvgvoL2w9cU tXZxGasr7fQJ7piuh0uUTwTqGB3StxkvkqbLz9MEB1U26mf5b1w5e29TXBXZ515pU0Wf gcmKu0UJhnQdsOwOcqCHcxaaWSxc9JVtJE+oA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WXxkrDIcQKvGDT1JHsxuY/pbgr56fGxdeRB4nvnyQ5+vkxHzWeSqb3uLdhYGYZ7tak LmdFhLXZQ4so3cxrkoklrWBrQxeugRTWzcMM+nk/nntDS8O3v9O9Ah+5a1CdBUKSZ7fl 4p59NhmGuJTDCTeeAr429+Kar5avzMp34jqV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.113.3 with SMTP id l3mr13789727ybc.90.1255483142292; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD4FDC5.7010403@club.kyutech.ac.jp> References: <4AD4FDC5.7010403@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:19:02 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910131819x52854097y2297aae70136a98b@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Kouichiro Iwao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: too noisy virtualbox messages on dmesg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:19:03 -0000 2009/10/13 Kouichiro Iwao > Hi. > > I'm using VirtualBox 3.0.51 on 8-RC1 and it is properly working > but too many messages are dumped on dmesg like below. > The message blows off which I really need. Please give me instructions > how to stop it or how to make it to be dumped somewhere else. > > [meta@trueno ~]$ dmesg | tail > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec2e28dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1c78dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1738dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec1738dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=crypto ppDev=0xec87e8dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=crypto ppDev=0xec87e8dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc > VBoxDrvFreeBSDClone: pszName=tty ppDev=0xec87e8dc > > -- > Iwao, Koichiro > > Did you compile the port with debug enabled? I don't see those messages unless it is. unload vbox kernel modules cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox && make config deselect debug make && make deinstall install clean reload vbox kernel modules -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 23:39:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E48B1065679 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com) Received: from web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20BD08FC1D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70755 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2009 23:39:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255477196; bh=qH+blfMbeuWx96l+A8fwl4D2uyWB5Y4ELESZ3oGGXnA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HZqA3r4ghZl9VMD4qh+IqTFNDNZGsIk5G+X1hjLdi2xYTfS0Bv8D7DkhW/07V1W3Vso7NL6k/Fd4Hf0nXY4P5hHOZINvoKsV9CIDskmPnelAOn/NAmWmea2ecvtrvRANPf4EKQUgjKudQHNUDr7/m484GnXkD2v2/NgMxxVfyn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZsSqp5FcQPQuQetduzDANHpgbtgb6pPuvRowrKaPLmaEinc2rHxB2dG9U6aE9gKhkK9uJ+GyEQm/f8zWCcEINbgKapoyplS4Stay60V/R0shOvKh8w7g6bolPZrTqF8j7niaW0kOFaDXmsF9so7up+uOYACyQ7ee2jPJ5gd0PSM=; Message-ID: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hW4W7cUVM1l.vvJ7caImraGF9uJbS9oBZ_4Rk2w1mQtEcVreAV6LZ8D9IshEF3of92RwI9h2QDMkfvq6O8J6AxGoaq4JmjW7ETMv3gHsOeenw7TrTvj0k05yKZO3HIzqMXxLIdiAbUl_HvaSvHHAmnGxeE445Q0e4OoxBGT0vXpPG_Tuk0cC6MdTvyVraPU_2Kv6WArHJ7T7L3pMaUJEh4bP5AT_OQWVAlBaFbTKt9b2oEJpDEtSJQtZTiFdL1rN9sGeMHTDtZn5nD.zZmPtoI_9GtzPOTv_Inz89fCL5_p.7JLPSrJThLVka2IwkMsx9MrmY4MjAesgcwBwTh65K7LaeZ1hEWUW2kk4Rye05qT6GjB5B_Q7ta34kFxyt7BjAIau5EWHIew_uMGrSJ1SFuU- Received: from [206.190.77.154] by web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:39:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:39:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:31:42 +0000 Subject: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:39:57 -0000 Please try this: 1. at the prompt type "man man" to get the man manual page. 2. press CTRL-G to to to the bottom of the document 3. press k to scroll up one line You'll notice you cannot perform step 3 because man "quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G". Question: How can I make man not "quit back to the prompt after CTRL-G"? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 23:45:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54904106566C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com) Received: from web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD7448FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72943 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Oct 2009 23:45:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255477539; bh=rhJp9LxWvkOU1P6QL/+trHj8/K1U7H90EVAYpUvFGiw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J3pkRFHM0W7aRhIwpXzyYTodJ8bvfrQD03x2TnsKqEvQ3orYRtzLw2MnePlGBSJYdne+3k6r4j0f8prXebQivGHNcKb1+NZRqk7Z6PBK8nKkhv9H1Q5XfTsoq3ONdNFidjl9qJq7V1vukcFuLwCK+WfSeE3hOAzf9Gl05KarbUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y2BYPxt39e93ph5Lnqrf94vTkRmHo38lr3uFrmhKlWqAOsb+IhUyCxgC+kCHiG3GCui9hs/H4djHn+pDI5yoP0i7oiz36XwGvTKa5uIAnN5FKyX5s1L0svJylkPn/jNqt+8r/9Mg8+C7xqGQh8Sp8gOTAHqjoSjup7DWQ7aHGc8=; Message-ID: <288486.72733.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9gWcwOcVM1leg7HnRj4jnsXqTMBGeK6MAHRiUqezMN2pEUxF68V5nc28q545gE8IAy2tmYW_8dJpze75bruSHwOHuHreyAJWOzLC_L7QMmnKq7nhM41rF2yvQKfuiBaV.7aWlPuegLgta0npyAxHzZmSDi0L7_v0ZaBxqKyZybpp970YD_MueAEQTDSlnSmRnRIPHeFRPleMzJ4vNDXyarOVs382eIjqOGadfEPly.u_O4MIc2JindLGEljw.5X9rjVpxMxu9d4U2d4uWA.RymaFE7MASu3KPVROICQPlnv6SX1A_lIHTJ7nCmknaeYc8qpWOw.Oa6Oox6WnRBIRE9Pe6r8sXJf5gqCqd7kqip9nFEb_LzXVMwNzSr0.rNI- Received: from [206.190.77.154] by web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:45:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:45:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:38:14 +0000 Subject: View font selection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:45:40 -0000 Hello, Question: What command should I issue to see what each of my installed x11 fonts looks like? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 01:44:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FC11065692 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F718FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2009 21:44:48 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFZ45710; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2009 21:43:52 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:43:51 -0400 To: Chris Stankevitz In-Reply-To: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:44:48 -0000 Chris Stankevitz writes: > Please try this: > > 1. at the prompt type "man man" to get the man manual page. > 2. press CTRL-G to to to the bottom of the document > 3. press k to scroll up one line > > You'll notice you cannot perform step 3 because man "quits back > to the prompt after CTRL-G". > > Question: How can I make man not "quit back to the prompt after > CTRL-G"? On my system, the result of (1) and (2) is the screen remains at the first page of output and lines 1-34 byte 1821 (press RETURN) appears at the bottom of the screen in reverse video. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 01:55:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABF7106568F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7008FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so9904353gxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:55:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=A+yO0UexPRutjGbwkHR5tSLqheby6/UyZW5E/I7VKNA=; b=Up5FGI8osYA5irNoMxw6ZNxr6qViwIiOq0S8JJFGJbUfPNe5ve8Taihx61PdJf9J2k DhDQFpnepP/3GdrF4n2uyLwq6SwhUPV//yOqYB5j3dC70ZU8rcuKj0yd8wSlqjwYpDln fycZQez/4odmfL8aXNibnei5nMWjZnWJXGQdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=b1kx1bbB4HQJWtXC1MjSI//jGTDiAVlLDKLfMADws0XKTMWXbMZNxdSg/txeAzn92M JecNjhXQTBvtBJQOMwaPMIVq73AaE2t8nwR7v0GyCiTCUmjqvT1AxBTwG8PpkEUjqJ9r zmiKnn83s6bBEk1cJFw7FVzDI3wkwybcDF8VA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.19.4 with SMTP id w4mr4764553agi.0.1255485305192; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:55:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:55:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:55:06 -0000 2009/10/13 Chris Stankevitz : > Please try this: > > 1. at the prompt type "man man" to get the man manual page. > 2. press CTRL-G to to to the bottom of the document > 3. press k to scroll up one line > > You'll notice you cannot perform step 3 because man "quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G". > > Question: How can I make man not "quit back to the prompt after CTRL-G"? > from man 1 more: = or ^G or :f Prints some information about the file being viewed, including its name and the line number and byte offset of the bottom line being displayed. If possible, it also prints the length of the file, the number of lines in the file and the percent of the file above the last displayed line. so if you mean shift-G, then the default behaviour of more(1) is to exit when it reaches the end of the file, & (IIRC, obviously YMMV) the default pager is set to more. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 02:15:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65E81065672 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (mail1.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAE98FC21 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.vmeta.jp (attsi1-src.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.253.2]) by mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E9D8EE4C; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:15:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp (rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.6]) by smtp.vmeta.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467E3AEBC0; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:15:08 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4AD53429.8070704@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:15:05 +0900 From: Kouichiro Iwao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4AD4FDC5.7010403@club.kyutech.ac.jp> <6201873e0910131819x52854097y2297aae70136a98b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0910131819x52854097y2297aae70136a98b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: too noisy virtualbox messages on dmesg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:15:11 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > Did you compile the port with debug enabled? I don't see those messages > unless it is. That was just because of debugging option, thanks. -- Iwao, Koichiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 02:22:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7461065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B988FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC1920597DD for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id aPXMBCW9D9Ir for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF8220597DA for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B4F68F3FF22; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vGcuh+ADB0pm; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C2C7A68EEA4A2; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:47 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:22:21 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009, Robert Huff wrote: > >Chris Stankevitz writes: > >> Please try this: >> >> 1. at the prompt type "man man" to get the man manual page. >> 2. press CTRL-G to to to the bottom of the document >> 3. press k to scroll up one line >> >> You'll notice you cannot perform step 3 because man "quits back >> to the prompt after CTRL-G". >> >> Question: How can I make man not "quit back to the prompt after >> CTRL-G"? The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Whenever a people entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 06:06:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1049106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=531f42b27=abhi_shukla@in.com) Received: from mx2.in.com (MX2.IN.com [123.108.40.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF658FC1D for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:06:28 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: s=irp2-01-r5-c1.spam.dc1; d=in.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=To:X-Originating-IP:From:Message-ID:Date:Subject: Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BzN8TVLl0wsvp6Z/YbnI7O+lw7T+mSQRc1oSfcpj0x7pE3EEruoDVi7g 4ZnHqrN6S8l3/izYCXwzD0gDUBqXh2HtN/n4F69OK2yIsTYpE+awbLKIY VWsnYGoQWJPhFpN; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=in.com; i=abhi_shukla@in.com; l=2057; q=dns/txt; s=irp2-01-r5-c1.spam.dc1; t=1255500389; x=1287036389; h=to:x-originating-ip:from:message-id:date:subject: reply-to:mime-version:content-type; z=To:=20questions@FreeBSD.org=20 |X-Originating-IP:=20122.173.90.212|From:=20"Abhilash=20 =20Shukla"=20|Message-ID:=20<12554997 34.7edccc661418aeb5761dbcdc06ad490c@mail.in.com>|Date:=20 Wed,=2014=20Oct=202009=2011:25:34=20+0530|Subject:=20=3D? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 06:10:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486FC1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1498C8FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.49] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n9E6Exnx012407 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:14:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:02 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com><19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:10:07 -0000 Bill Campbell wrote: > The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of > these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit > at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second > time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. Bill, Thank you for your explanation. I hope to find that my PAGER environment variable is "less -E". If so, I will drop the -E. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 07:02:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A198106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F328FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:02:36 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=fAJP4PLwdDkeUS5cqPxUGhDI5VC8l7jue5wd9FKbtJLRcJ34ryMTh0nV1Ser0SS2l/U0eNXBTQXy+j6y2zLDZNGNfYN3dmWIG/aG73P5HyP4e/4MNenAq4Hr9+YFQstd; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:64005) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MxxsS-0006Ln-0W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:02:28 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:02:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130921g17b8d9fdy8fdb99bd5a0e8cf4@mail.gmail.com> <4AD4AE89.6010802@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD4AE89.6010802@radel.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:3) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:02:37 -0000 On Tuesday 13 October 2009 18:44:57 Jon Radel wrote: > Jacques Henry wrote: > > I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10 > > minutes of time difference) > > The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is > hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time. Slewing 587 > seconds takes days. > > > I even tried to "force" the sync: > > > > U450XA0A0800650>nstop ntp > > U450XA0A0800650>ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf > > U450XA0A0800650>nstart ntp > > Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the > offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with > the -q? How about you try simple: > > ntpdate the_windows_server > > and see what that does? After that look in /var/log/messages. > > > In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't > > totally compliant with the client... > > Could be, but ntpq was showing that your ntpd was accepting time data > from the Windows server at least on some level. Alternatively, from the commandline try ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and the -q causes it to quit after setting the time. In /etc/rc.conf, all you should need is ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" The second option adds -g to the ntpd flags, allowing it to set the clock at startup and continue running. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 08:10:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0161065694 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-8.bnguk.net (atmail-8.bnguk.net [80.74.253.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2C08FC12 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.54.144] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-8.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MxywN-000282-5S; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:10:35 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 768354AC1B; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:10:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:10:30 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Chris Stankevitz Message-ID: <20091014081030.GA50437@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Stankevitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:10:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:10:02PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > Bill Campbell wrote: > >The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of > >these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit > >at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second > >time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. > > Bill, > > Thank you for your explanation. I hope to find that my PAGER > environment variable is "less -E". If so, I will drop the -E. > > Chris > Chris, Set $PAGER to "less" and then set $LESS to something reasonable in your shells rc/profile. E.g On my machine: LESS="-Xrmj3z-3 -Pm?f%f\:\ .?pb%pb\%\ :?lt%lt. .?e(END)" All explained in less(1) Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 09:22:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AC1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [62.28.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90358FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.62] (unknown [192.168.1.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162E5228532; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:22:10 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <4AD59844.203@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:22:12 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz References: <288486.72733.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <288486.72733.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: View font selection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:22:12 -0000 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > Question: What command should I issue to see what each of my installed x11 fonts looks like? > > Thank you, > > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > xfontsel. To install the port: cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xfontsel/ && make install clean ; rehash To use it: xfontsel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 11:25:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF15106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98368FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:25:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,557,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="285454326" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 13:25:07 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 2B7DC1B07BC; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:25:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:25:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: some issues with 9-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:25:09 -0000 since my first question got answers, here are answers to questions 2 and 3: 2: there's a problem report here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/108968 this still exists in CURRENT 3: i believe it takes so long to do fsck on a device in background mode because a snapshot has to be taken first. i decided i'd rather wait for a few minutes instead of running a system for half an hour which is incredibly slow. i simply added the following to /etc/rc.conf: background_fsck="NO" cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 11:37:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A227A106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atmblr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD018FC20 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so10224538gxk.13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:37:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XlyfTeQqTvTGCImknQPeNrPjS8Pn8IUb4E4mpTBKiDE=; b=SFsWfQjQh0Y3rtnjPHJjYnukPkvZSsn1kSXFwlI2jEUA0lBoBS/rVA38eMVV2dFvPl XbPZFW3NYy6PCcmPEuXeqTRshPqtvp0MzPpI7iHtjfqqthTxR/m5GMzBriWzilzdDYZO sYa1cGhKwd4XMuy53tcByg1+xsBf+b3cOr/qQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ulYpT8qw4M2ABSQlxz4o++v0XIFUE1rQ3Tpbinm3RfuKf7WG+T2JL5nVgPYZqLySPy fa4jeuSbAOl1VAMg6GYZHwc1BBNrDzTe6UNvvmzMaVe7tVhrRKVwN6WwiJpgqj8yZg0z RML13hnDXDNnoTYixrPCFrxHJrwOliIfZLwG0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.59.17 with SMTP id m17mr7079212ank.13.1255518313262; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:05:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091014081030.GA50437@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> <20091014081030.GA50437@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:35:13 +0530 Message-ID: From: Ashok TM To: Frank Shute , Chris Stankevitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:37:57 -0000 send me ur citiback card no On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:10:02PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > > > Bill Campbell wrote: > > >The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of > > >these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit > > >at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second > > >time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. > > > > Bill, > > > > Thank you for your explanation. I hope to find that my PAGER > > environment variable is "less -E". If so, I will drop the -E. > > > > Chris > > > > Chris, > > Set $PAGER to "less" and then set $LESS to something reasonable in > your shells rc/profile. > > E.g On my machine: > > LESS="-Xrmj3z-3 -Pm?f%f\:\ .?pb%pb\%\ :?lt%lt. .?e(END)" > > All explained in less(1) > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 11:41:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7428106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED88FC23 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so35647373ywh.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gmtrTBbmfoq8/qSJzsVLpKIbfnwF05O9W75v72bzDys=; b=lvwii5WTiq4EqASiNlRj/KDoJGyRQbaqcyfaX+7DT2EBjcWVXsG1nALP8lK4fnBg1W 7YiF+vPxTHQzRfyklAyZmMh0d0WZLemlj4VFCfD+GV6c/tt/wztbr+/C6wLYEEdvlRYm +/LI2291BuVpJE8jQ497v3QsDcHa8IG2rqJ/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oNpbPZaap92Rue1F7mxOuuwfZUmeJQ2B2PTg058DPmdRBy1TQoqM2j4gEY7DN73Edm cBCE1Ma4rFEeHQtRoY9To8R+I2/8nu4q1wTVb8NJVQLQe8SXv/dBgAq/W7mCrooKpx68 +s/wqkOx7YdP7/+WJAI7lMDvAGTRrlqCalJzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.16.27 with SMTP id 27mr14637454ybp.335.1255520497781; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:41:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1255499734.7edccc661418aeb5761dbcdc06ad490c@mail.in.com> References: <1255499734.7edccc661418aeb5761dbcdc06ad490c@mail.in.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Abhilash Shukla Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem regarding free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:41:38 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Abhilash Shukla wro= te: > Hello,Respected Sir/Madam,Actually i tried to install free BSD on my >sys= tem, I have 1 TB hard disk of 500GB X 2 in which i made a partition in >one= of my hard disk which even contains some data. Unfortunately i lost >all m= y data, as i think but its truly very important for me. As after the >compl= etion of the installation part when i tried to boot into it, i was unable >= to do so, now i installed Windows XP into my system and tried to access >th= e other hard disk but still i can't. As when i installed BSD in other >part= ition why i am not able to access the other drive in the same hard >drive. = Please help me how can i recover my data.Thank You,Abhilash >Shukla.Dear qu= estions@FreeBSD.org ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com >Email ID now! As far as I understand, the data on the partition you put freeBSD on is gone. You should have noticed the warning during install that warned of this. Concerning XP and "looking" at other partitions, (as far as I understand) you should install XP first and then install freeBSD with a bootloader that will allow you (easier) access to all of the OS's. MS doesn't like to share disk space. Perhaps I misunderstood your situation concerning the "loss" of data. If so, there is open source data recovery software out there. I can't think of the names right now, but I'm sure you have the necessary searching skills to find them yourself. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 11:59:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508781065679 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257CE8FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1My2WB-00033V-5k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:59:47 -0700 Message-ID: <25889720.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: henter2009 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com Subject: test please ignore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:48 -0000 test please ignore -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/test-please-ignore-tp25889720p25889720.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 12:08:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3C6106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC188FC1D for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1My2ev-0003yE-16 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:08:49 -0700 Message-ID: <25889863.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: henter2009 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4A89248A.6040700@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com References: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> <4A89248A.6040700@otenet.gr> Subject: Re: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:08:49 -0000 anyone can give some references of this? any kind how to explanation will be more than welcome :D Manolis Kiagias-2 wrote: > > Mark Stapper wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD >> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). >> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is >> quite important to me. >> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, >> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. >> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow >> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, >> better than nothing. >> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on >> FreeBSD amd64... >> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not >> having any 32-bit libraries installed. >> My questions are two fold: >> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 >> amd64? >> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? >> >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> > I don't have a suitable amd64 system to test, but apparently virtualbox > on amd64 requires this option to be built into the kernel: > > COMPAT_IA32 > > for latest info check the wiki page, as virtualbox is under heavy > development: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/howto-install-virtualbox-tp25001665p25889863.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 12:26:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB14106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DE58FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so10347215fxm.36 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:26:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=kS0ONrOCTRsBzdHTL/K4NZALpdfEu1+i8E5oHE37hpk=; b=w/BVE2ltQAdmAW+vExNwMzYXrIwy3Sr3TPdqq8L5jzYQjWWb4x2y8oYbDoo0NmIqlv qoxyePEPCvsK2WstG0gPT8f+0C49pP4+LU3gj9MPLl5SEXc9dUcpMJk0Tr3RnjxlMU2/ ekF/sh76C0q0jOi7h8U6EgpB/98zVYGKochSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=Kt0E9F0iOcC5qo6T8TU8HFa2HGz7VM5/RTvRrGXZCSYkjoE0fSO8jRrvRXqu0Yl6PE qAyo5VJkNGCVXoPQAP/JR4qZA2qB58H+7ggNL1MEJD8T0RNbioTzZd5RVgscWbVCXoRW 9zEZeNxE6IffOfjmN2MIAstQsb2PiZ+ofkxNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.85 with SMTP id m21mr7174705bkx.175.1255523184160; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:26:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25889720.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <25889720.post@talk.nabble.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:26:04 +0100 Message-ID: To: henter2009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: test please ignore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:26:25 -0000 2009/10/14 henter2009 : > > test please ignore > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/test-please-ignore-tp25889720p25889720.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > This is not the list to test on. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test Please use it. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 13:58:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8821065672 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsilvaleandro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786578FC18 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so36017648ywh.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:57:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lXHX3YhLBt3gSg9dvEtyceEES3Z5hFzh/XMxI9c/RxM=; b=gJjOuS32svEX8wrQmZhX4HLv2xJblOnzkhmGKccaTK04zFpa4WNQ+CtV2d3UFl+kdj mLVZ1dKXl3z2QfW7IDxJ1b2J7B2loRs3RdKq2r3+ifMmOUIjhVug3sM1QTY1UowJLX8+ jmcw3ZE09utCwmLj53N5sV31zkTA126OCT2jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lUjZBQi1e9amVTtXhoPl89Jx55zNp8KQwLuCVZvv7QXxEyX9wKRTP+UKFiP6J4OLvt dDh6/0K/go6hmxE2IXzmOlq5WY472b7KBGoDLFn27iKwg0ajMmHf9BOEJxpYb6k/lALO AS6EXREEI0hSuk5Ub0mjW6URIz1d9BCj7bZX4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.183.11 with SMTP id g11mr15094383ybf.50.1255528679049; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:58 -0300 Message-ID: <28f938b10910140657v71b12287v49ab6d0b29ae4b3f@mail.gmail.com> From: Leandro F Silva To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Linux compatibility in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:58:00 -0000 Dears, Does anyone know or already configured the linux compatibility in FreeBSD to install rpm packages and so on. Actually I'm running the i386 7.2 FreeBSD and the following package. %pkg_info |grep linu linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) I already saw the linux compatibility in the hand book of FreeBSD, but I didn't find too much information regarding rpm packages. Is there any way to do it ? any help is really welcome ! Thank you all in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 14:13:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002671065679 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6A08FC29 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475D02059DAE for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:13:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OX3hhMqxRlaX for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0E2059DAA for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1060168F3FF22; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:13:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id V0F7hTnNcS2R; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id E5AD568EEA4AD; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:12:59 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014141259.GA14005@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:13:01 -0000 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Bill Campbell wrote: >> The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of >> these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit >> at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second >> time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. > > Bill, > > Thank you for your explanation. I hope to find that my PAGER > environment variable is "less -E". If so, I will drop the -E. You probably also want the ``-r'' option which I think gets less to properly highlight the nroff things like bold. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance. -- Murray N. Rothbard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 14:43:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB5D106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B92F8FC1E for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1895555fga.13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xfZnJf0C220AI0LQnkfsKMm+CK7fqPII13WSwq30fWA=; b=wc729duQh2FsnuLaJqFOnzg/tEoqHtWH80ttUHMXlxWtY+YAPeWHJM6VvzcMyEwZE1 T+81lFBynl82+yRfmddomtnhAXfQGi4ehHBrLFWv688ZT8PpuSt2IT0iVbInGUw5/dTM Qs+ZT86uvGwClHzTpWdUY4pBRvIwnP4PGeseg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v8tNkBnx4zvXX2ZyrFv+ErhqbLqrFpVfFr3YTmd3rHcRnkl0EwZ9OLHoNUAI/PK6NX 1gDZT9TrnIKuS/UdH43XQQC+0aH5uvQJ53KLrcrH7sHWJGkP632SyloISo+7uQVXm7aH xuB4CYrDqJ8UXeGfDn3n39W5FyxwwnwhBNNrs= Received: by 10.87.62.6 with SMTP id p6mr129302fgk.10.1255531422398; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm102771fgg.28.2009.10.14.07.43.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014154338.7e48aa87@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> References: <521176.60565.qm@web52902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <19157.11479.415746.171606@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20091014014947.GA13021@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <4AD56B3A.4070905@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: man quits back to the prompt after CTRL-G X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:43:44 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:10:02 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Bill Campbell wrote: > > The -e and -E options to less control this. You want neither of > > these specified if you don't want to have less automatically exit > > at end-of-file. The ``-e'' option causes it to exit the second > > time it hits eof while ``-E'' exits the first time. > > Bill, > > Thank you for your explanation. I hope to find that my PAGER > environment variable is "less -E". If so, I will drop the -E. I think it's sufficient simply to change your pager to "less". IIRC it defaults to "more". "more" and "less" are the same binary in FreeBSD, but they work slightly differently according to how they are invoked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 15:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D24106568D for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B5E8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1My5R0-000Gus-2s; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:06:38 +0400 To: Alexander Best References: From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:06:38 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Alexander Best's message of "Tue\, 13 Oct 2009 21\:21\:16 +0200 \(CEST\)") Message-ID: <20900529@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: whacky `fc-list` output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:06:42 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:21:16 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best wrote: > hi there, > when i do `fc-list` the output looks rather odd. `fc-cache -f` doesn't help. > the output looks the same using different shells. Those messages seem to be UTF-8 formatted. I use UTF-8 locale and iso10646 font. Here is a head of `fc-list`: ----- CourierNew:style=PSMT-BoldItalic Lucida Console:style=Обычный,Normal,obyÄejné,Standard,Κανονικά,Regular,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,Navadno ,Arrunta AcademyPSCyr:style=Regular Utopia:style=Bold Italic CollegePSCyr:style=Regular DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=Condensed,Book Times New Roman:style=Обычный,Normal,obyÄejné,Standard,Κανονικά,Regular,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,Normá lne,Navadno,thÆ°á»ng, Arrunta ----- -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 15:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02646106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: from rcpt.cat.pdx.edu (unknown [IPv6:2610:10:20:208:2e0:81ff:fe5c:af2e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF4E8FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nemo.ece.pdx.edu (nemo.ece.pdx.edu [131.252.209.162]) by rcpt.cat.pdx.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id n9EFV1A4025217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:01 -0700 Received: from nemo.ece.pdx.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nemo.ece.pdx.edu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9EFV0Hi002085 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tait@localhost) by nemo.ece.pdx.edu (8.13.6/8.12.6/Submit) id n9EFV0Gw002084 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nemo.ece.pdx.edu: tait set sender to freebsd@t41t.com using -f Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0700 From: freebsd@t41t.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (rcpt.cat.pdx.edu [131.252.208.107]); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on rcpt.cat.pdx.edu X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at rcpt.cat.pdx.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:31:04 -0000 I'm in need of a new graphics card for a new computer, that I hope will run FreeBSD (with a strong preference for AMD64) and compiz-fusion on a dual-monitor, which I believe means the 3D acceleration has to be in good working order. I don't really care whether the graphics driver is binary, or freely-licensed. Has anyone bought a recent graphics card that they know to be working in x64 with 3D acceleration? I've heard Nvidea support is probably better than ATI. Some of the GPU choices I see are like GeForce 9400/9500/9600 GT, GSO, and/or GTX+ series or the GTS/GTX 2** series. Are some of those better-supported than others? I didn't see anything recent on this list or the website, and there wasn't much response on IRC. Recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 15:47:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241EC1065672 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EAE8FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so24381690yxe.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:47:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FL6c0/opwfr+Y5Q5zAxo70dYq+al0t4u5giBjt/diLs=; b=w9wzTrWAOeW2pdXnNYKKMNMRjEurFyd8rBSCwYISTxXiYbNZeNnAObpfymsxQgLz5L 90A5VQB3X/g5tFrSVRaFxE8hPfE+Di/cm7S/IQySRxKHeENbxBaGYtAsKnT+zqxWij6u wscX1FZhSx3AEon7KQm3Fq4xpw1aQBu/65stI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B/u1LeaiOxVEJdZYkpIIJOihFs2/lB6CfzXfyqzQTNlyl7FX4BmyNBrZVVY/sVC9Sg ZDg4OHFsXa9HBEIc2omyJkzl029Vh/3HDKgQENAO3LdwpluqquZjel29FtNnR5uwmMJ7 kbLuxmr7W3JzbFBIjGpa3gCwHDNg7D9cdtTNA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.67 with SMTP id l3mr635587hbg.201.1255535244716; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:47:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: zfs root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:47:27 -0000 Hi, I have a quick question about freebsd on zfs root. I have built a few test systems all work fine. I have one question though. Does the loader replay any information when it accesses the pool? Basically im interested in how or what is done on reboot after the kernel panic or power loss. Are there any safe guards with regard to the zpool integrity? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 15:49:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B8A1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873BA8FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so24386942yxe.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:49:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UM9SQ15uK/HjjY1HnWwIGReyVHG754URCgX8CIsz5Qw=; b=OcV3JAtJHeD83b6ZCrP9sMaJdiJ3+LaS8ub6x+hpRsd0UIS273tPBc8flCTy/03ZL6 Hx5OXUXTAy7YoE1FUQzGbD+H2UYdv1b6KeVLa2KY4887NDf8k0S4vjMrvX+FeSRxk1CC mrQfMnYVyV2MNnbikJQhlcwXLuZ/NW+4wAnvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TGQDzE6IK3CJOc3hsIld8Pp/eap9hcN+VtZCJ+uxsT5LJcJnaksCaQOPpCrU4JANnv DYJ57KobqLeAiiD0cfKrUuwjtwuIQOPK3WYK1PJ2UmOiM3Slcj2r0haFstCqT5EF10Zy fBfPXxVsnvRKVXPeKqnTkBWgFYhbyCJfZWk+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.237.10 with SMTP id k10mr15219052ybh.112.1255535350601; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:49:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD5C17B.1000102@sepehrs.com> References: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> <4AD5C17B.1000102@sepehrs.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <2b5f066d0910140849q696fd00bl83e4879a3179c9ec@mail.gmail.com> From: Brian McCann To: "H.Fazaeli" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:49:13 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM, H.Fazaeli wrote: > what type of blade switch you are using? > Are you using HS21 onboard ports or an expansion card? > > Make sure the corresponding internal ports of > the blade switch are at 'no shutdown' state. > > > Brian McCann wrote: >> >> I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, usi= ng >> an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. =A0The machine uses the NetXtreme II ca= rd. >> =A0The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the ca= rd >> shows no carrier in the setup. =A0It started working for a few seconds a= t >> one >> point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), and >> it >> detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but >> promptly >> went away. =A0If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't app= ear >> to >> work. >> Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? >> Thanks! >> --Brian >> >> > > -- > > Best regards. > Hooman Fazaeli > > > > > Yes, I'm using an HS21 onbaord card...the Broadcom. The internal ports show a link (using the Nortel manager...it's got a the Nortel L3-7 switch in it). I found http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D118238 last night...it looks like that change was never commited by anyone...I'm working on recompiling that into 7.1 now and plan on trying it once it's done. I'll post the results up here (and to freebsd-net as well if it works). I'm really hoping that works...since I really would like to avoid installing VMWare ESXi on 14 blades just to run 1 VM in each of them and loose performance. I'll keep y'all posted. --Brian --=20 _-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 15:50:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046E81065694 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AF28FC15 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1My67F-000HQZ-CB; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:50:17 +0400 To: Leandro F Silva References: <28f938b10910140657v71b12287v49ab6d0b29ae4b3f@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:50:17 +0400 In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910140657v71b12287v49ab6d0b29ae4b3f@mail.gmail.com> (Leandro F. Silva's message of "Wed\, 14 Oct 2009 10\:57\:58 -0300") Message-ID: <99467910@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux compatibility in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:50:20 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:58 -0300 Leandro F Silva wrote: > Does anyone know or already configured the linux compatibility in FreeBSD to > install rpm packages and so on. hm, actually (almost) all linux applications are installed using RPM packages. Did you mean using linux RPM database? > Actually I'm running the i386 7.2 FreeBSD and the following package. > %pkg_info |grep linu > linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for > i386/amd64) FYI: You may use `pkg_info -Ix linux_base` for this. > I already saw the linux compatibility in the hand book of FreeBSD, but I > didn't find too much information regarding rpm packages. > Is there any way to do it ? any help is really welcome ! Using RPM database is not supported since FreeBSD has its own package database for all applications including linux ones. Said that I don't mean it doesn't work. If you need to use RPM database to register applications that does not exist at ports you may give it a try. But the best way is to create ports for those applications and install them from ports. BTW, they really don't need to exist at the official portstree. You may place them, say, to /usr/ports/local. A PR with them will be a good thing though. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:00:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E21065676 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 257A58FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25593 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2009 16:00:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=URKBBdo3Qssiu49d0ICUPojHo2HbO+2fQ12uHzXIiDFMnX2bWIMgMpcVDS860tLUQoyQzjJAkkpPUBRbbNfMNPxxTgtXlFWeGuy8SUCtu+GWhVtKVVXBR7rTo22pg70hJGhejKOA3ZOayUJkXtSOl7/fByR+5adv6/gxqImmQvc= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2009 09:00:14 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: 04psV2sVM1kC1dawQzXfEw8pFTc321TJ9SB7pRRtCcep2rhkorWLRdPhaqIlk.4lWItKPQazZFDyusdHFnwyTQD0HQ3_JHwDt5qxcpddIw9qabQfpJgo3K444tujIjOArgAXEU_o700767vZ5aWdgIkS3iJS9tLDLNEwlTwz0TcC9GdRjCn6Ti7b1l4Yy1f_bzD928kI.SWRUFd8yYISDq.GD56zIER.hoHBkXsaTCjTLjLgzgLkcGBTIPnd1OwqFw5IWi2ytI5_7DbxS4HZzftkNaTku07JKqPbdB7K3ZsfK_CqHffE6BYms10E4RKtB5jJJr1bupphohqfmRgekxwiECvibRdOcKR.0staudF.d8lS2eMycdw_DJhQkD5mJNMDVlOqTtY9jvf4srDhBlI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3734D2282A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:49 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:00:16 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0700 freebsd@t41t.com freebsd@t41t.com (freebsd@t41t.com) replied: >I'm in need of a new graphics card for a new computer, that I hope will >run FreeBSD (with a strong preference for AMD64) and compiz-fusion on a >dual-monitor, which I believe means the 3D acceleration has to be in >good working order. I don't really care whether the graphics driver is >binary, or freely-licensed. > >Has anyone bought a recent graphics card that they know to be working >in x64 with 3D acceleration? > >I've heard Nvidea support is probably better than ATI. Some of the GPU >choices I see are like GeForce 9400/9500/9600 GT, GSO, and/or GTX+ >series or the GTS/GTX 2** series. Are some of those better-supported >than others? > >I didn't see anything recent on this list or the website, and there >wasn't much response on IRC. Recommendations would be appreciated. >Thanks! nVidia (AMD64) is not supported in 7.x versions of FreeBSD as far as I know. There was some talk of it being supported in 8.x, but I have not heard from anyone actually doing so. All my machines use nvidea cards, and the lack of support for it in FBSD, even after an extended period of time, is a real PIA. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com The bold youth of today is very lonely. Poul Henningsen [1894-1967] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:04:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D758B1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caramba696@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3288FC24 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so36393503ywh.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8VqQbsC2IAMb45jmAtdQZ899LeI6tmQK85WF3LHIb1Q=; b=UU4Ajeoid3ilIFw1uCP/Ej1/fHeENso3uh5dhsJuHyPe4RZTNWZXwPuqGv1CRLHTtm JZ5CssGNzvzA+jj5dO1uzo0ju4nnAftVDed8VdUoafzCfb37VDWyjkaAsGo1q0+XpX3e 5Im/VNz2Oh/nvrPM/flAguRp2h3zVEVRZNlf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DQF51lHMh+4ay5G1GMcuc3+BZ51YAH2nsd79EWyeZAYeAZ7TqaAE6dzw5OtT126g8n lvEn92MYidihOekfoJr02SBkAgZRGy479HnrJAlJ8KMVlkjnRQ98ctD0oNKKynchrDZk QLPeV1HlulDDo/bnlaHK52WED3gcj9pUUBn/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.144.30 with SMTP id w30mr7446311ann.188.1255536282383; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910140902.27825.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <2345d18f0910130813j6a2bbde0sec59647f44d43585@mail.gmail.com> <2345d18f0910130921g17b8d9fdy8fdb99bd5a0e8cf4@mail.gmail.com> <4AD4AE89.6010802@radel.com> <200910140902.27825.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:04:41 +0200 Message-ID: <2345d18f0910140904v3e2e9f37hbaabc05cb561a19d@mail.gmail.com> From: Jacques Henry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:04:43 -0000 > > The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is > > hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time. Slewing 587 > > seconds takes days. > The thing is that ntpd is not slewing the time at all, even after several hours!! > > Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the > > offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with > > the -q? How about you try simple: > > > > ntpdate the_windows_server > > > > and see what that does? After that look in /var/log/messages. > I don't have that command on my system... > > Alternatively, from the commandline try > > ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf > > The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and > the -q causes it to quit after setting the time. > > I tried this command without success... I can see the NTP packets (client and server) but the clock is never set.... with the debugging option enabled (-D 3), at the end I get: ... ... poll_update: at 15 172.30.1.5 flags 0201 poll 6 burst 1 last 1 next 17 read_network_packet: fd=22 length 48 from ac1e0105 172.30.1.5 receive: at 15 172.30.1.250<-172.30.1.5 flags 19 restrict 080 receive: at 15 172.30.1.250<-172.30.1.5 mode 4 code 1 auth 0 packet: flash header 0040 addto_syslog: no reply; clock not set From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:29:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9351065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexandre.labarre@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C83E8FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so4960738ewy.43 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=62m59JEG6Po1Nw0kbRjlD6YqRXSg/Zgc+1TJBTb0q70=; b=cdD8g3rAk5Sr/D5TfpyZ1bHCnxjVrGmSCLp9V8CDryn8wTXUBtagnuHpeIacwc1sRZ 4HUKeyFUyp+KCUA5AtEPECo53Ik4M4PcnJWI6WfPAgnQW4vEJfIJA1PJe0O6xh9Ytt4V WIGgz2xucYU0byIdHJj+3tfmGqz7Z0YJMh0qY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=ra6uH9WYTpTpR5Bq7K+2dUDwxJnOSykDL1sOMsUo58tga0vL8qRqJ3xFjfdu50Tomx P4cPYLKGMVlv+MJVSfL3CwV3YKTx3rBxj+h027Y3sk5Aut0ltCDQlQI9HLjwjUErrNZj rr4l4Uu3RbcUt08e+yHHu3Vc056c7ciVYfESA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alexandre.labarre@gmail.com Received: by 10.211.128.14 with SMTP id f14mr7622796ebn.75.1255535946475; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:59:06 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4d9e8161a41d6d4e Message-ID: From: Alexandre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Upgrade 7.2-RELEASE to 8.0-RC1 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:29:01 -0000 Hi, I have tried to upgrade my laptop system from 7.2-RELEASE to 8.0-RC1 using the freebsd-update method. I have ran the following commands : # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RC1 upgrade # freebsd-update install # nextboot -k GENERIC # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # portmaster -adf Then portmaster program does not recognize by the system. # rehash Does not have effect. Then I have rebooted the machine one more time and I have select the boot option 6 and type boot GENERIC Now the system don't want to boot correctly because it can't do fsck_ufs on /dev/ad0s1a I have download and burn the livefs 8.0-RC1 iso and use the fixit part. fsck_ufs /dev/ad0s1a do the steps correctly then I tried to boot on my GENERIC patched local kernel (using boot option 6 like described above) but I always got the same error. I have noticed that I have got these messages before the boot menu Boot: syntax error on file /boot/device.hints Boot: syntax error on file /boot/loader.conf Also, I tried this : (escape to loader prompt) * *# boot -s >> OK - It boot on 7.2 kernel # adjkerntz -i >> OK # swapon -a >> swapon: not found # fsck -p >> fsck: exec fsck_ufs for /dev/ad0s1a in /sbin:/usr/sbin: no such file or directory # mount -u / >> OK # mount -va >> OK If I rebooted like this method (escape to loader prompt) # boot GENERIC It boot on 8.0-RC1 kernel, but the only command that doesn't passed is # swapon -a >> swapon: not found After the command : # fsck -p I can access to the login prompt. But when I tried to login with root or another user, I got the following error : login: login: could not determine audit condition Can you help me to repair the errors ? Thanks for your help. Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:38:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E33F106568F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E553B8FC18 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www-west2.es.net (www-west2.es.net [198.128.3.67]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EGcbWf027585 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:38:38 -0700 Received: by www-west2.es.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id E0D64A68015; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Squirrel-UserHash: GggBGx4CGw== X-Squirrel-FromHash: RF1FTAsCFkY= Message-ID: <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: jgrosch@es.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-10-14_09:2009-09-29, 2009-10-14, 2009-10-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0910140117 Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:38:39 -0000 > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:31:00 -0700 > freebsd@t41t.com freebsd@t41t.com (freebsd@t41t.com) replied: > >>I'm in need of a new graphics card for a new computer, that I hope will >>run FreeBSD (with a strong preference for AMD64) and compiz-fusion on a >>dual-monitor, which I believe means the 3D acceleration has to be in >>good working order. I don't really care whether the graphics driver is >>binary, or freely-licensed. >> >>Has anyone bought a recent graphics card that they know to be working >>in x64 with 3D acceleration? >> >>I've heard Nvidea support is probably better than ATI. Some of the GPU >>choices I see are like GeForce 9400/9500/9600 GT, GSO, and/or GTX+ >>series or the GTS/GTX 2** series. Are some of those better-supported >>than others? >> >>I didn't see anything recent on this list or the website, and there >>wasn't much response on IRC. Recommendations would be appreciated. >>Thanks! > > nVidia (AMD64) is not supported in 7.x versions of FreeBSD as far as I > know. There was some talk of it being supported in 8.x, but I have > not heard from anyone actually doing so. All my machines use nvidea > cards, and the lack of support for it in FBSD, even after an extended > period of time, is a real PIA. nVidia support on i386 FreeBSD is not much better. One can use an nVidia card with 7.1 but under 7.2 one hits the dreaded mtrr error. A Google search finds many posts on how to fix this but none of them seem to work. I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested in working with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. ATI also seems to have a problem with mtrr under 7.2. I'm still trying to sort this out. I hope 8.0 will address these problems. Josef From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:40:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B741065693 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D078FC1E for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:40:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,559,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="226280508" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 18:40:07 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 89E761B0766; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Boris Samorodov , Alexander Best Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20900529@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: whacky `fc-list` output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:40:09 -0000 Boris Samorodov schrieb am 2009-10-14: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:21:16 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best wrote: > > hi there, > > when i do `fc-list` the output looks rather odd. `fc-cache -f` > > doesn't help. > > the output looks the same using different shells. > Those messages seem to be UTF-8 formatted. I use UTF-8 locale and > iso10646 font. Here is a head of `fc-list`: > ----- > CourierNew:style=3DPSMT-BoldItalic > Lucida > Console:style=3D=D0=9E=D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=87=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9,Normal,oby=C4= =8Dejn=C3=A9,Standard,=CE=9A=CE=B1=CE=BD=CE=BF=CE=BD=CE=B9=CE=BA=CE=AC,Regu= lar,Normaali,Norm=C3=A1l,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,Navadno > ,Arrunta > AcademyPSCyr:style=3DRegular > Utopia:style=3DBold Italic > CollegePSCyr:style=3DRegular > DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=3DCondensed,Book > Times New > Roman:style=3D=D0=9E=D0=B1=D1=8B=D1=87=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9,Normal,oby=C4=8D= ejn=C3=A9,Standard,=CE=9A=CE=B1=CE=BD=CE=BF=CE=BD=CE=B9=CE=BA=CE=AC,Regular= ,Normaali,Norm=C3=A1l,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,Norm=C3=A1 > lne,Navadno,th=C6=B0=E1=BB=9Dng, Arrunta > ----- this is the output of `locale` on my box: LANG=3DC LC_CTYPE=3Dde_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_COLLATE=3Den_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_TIME=3Dde_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=3Dde_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_MONETARY=3Dde_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=3Den_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_ALL=3D so why does fc-list output in utf8 if none of the LC_* vars is set to it? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:55:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46768106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ACF8FC24 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EGt6hH073480; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:55:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9EGt5Ar073477; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:55:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:55:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jgrosch@es.net In-Reply-To: <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> Message-ID: References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:55:09 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, jgrosch@es.net wrote: > nVidia support on i386 FreeBSD is not much better. One can use an nVidia > card with 7.1 but under 7.2 one hits the dreaded mtrr error. A Google > search finds many posts on how to fix this but none of them seem to work. > I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested in working > with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. ATI also seems to have > a problem with mtrr under 7.2. I'm still trying to sort this out. I hope > 8.0 will address these problems. All of my cards are ATI and I don't know of the "mtrr" problem you're talking about. This X1650 works fine on i386 with both 7-STABLE and 8-STABLE. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:57:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03C31065679 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFE18FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so6725546vws.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vFNPOA59HVSTzOpPkWtchJQf+jv7mXAunqw2D5Egqmg=; b=e9R4pf3YrmQmWh4v9jAkI0YuhBs4PZm9bV9R1V/KZG4ZPbUkkTS9DXdXlrRXFJbPt8 85e8i2f3Nu7RyE1TV4xbaZhYxW3U+B3odmI9nr/U5TaeCtr5o6WF/QmtXB/SZC9K/AfX oQ1vMTn0N3WXJMaNPYFT0S7nrI4VXW7Gn5N7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fh9Y7oHfpBU7mRPPN6Hb+B9O7UwFhm0FVGljxOqFOWFUgMmIKbZwINIg9ti0y4jR5t CcPn+YYyOs6MfJZcvl5a9EJ6re3xtDSdvHpznWB5eVN6eveJ4fTreyO+8YqM/Ick2Pwm hTpYbP/fIcMU2b+u0aUbP8AJNFZQYmoB6r1W8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.17.37 with SMTP id q37mr6761459vca.111.1255537465083; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d0910140849q696fd00bl83e4879a3179c9ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> <4AD5C17B.1000102@sepehrs.com> <2b5f066d0910140849q696fd00bl83e4879a3179c9ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:24:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd110910140924lf006440m63db0ce4ddb9e579@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: Brian McCann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "H.Fazaeli" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:57:07 -0000 do you double-check the internal por assignement? How many switchs has that blade1 or 2? You can try running a linux live-cd or maybe Windows to discard a FreeBSD trouble with the nic. does Freebsd detects 1 or 2 nics, and how many does the blade have? On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Brian McCann wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM, H.Fazaeli wrote: > > what type of blade switch you are using? > > Are you using HS21 onboard ports or an expansion card? > > > > Make sure the corresponding internal ports of > > the blade switch are at 'no shutdown' state. > > > > > > Brian McCann wrote: > >> > >> I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, > using > >> an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. The machine uses the NetXtreme II > card. > >> The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the card > >> shows no carrier in the setup. It started working for a few seconds at > >> one > >> point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), and > >> it > >> detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but > >> promptly > >> went away. If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't > appear > >> to > >> work. > >> Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? > >> Thanks! > >> --Brian > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > Best regards. > > Hooman Fazaeli > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm using an HS21 onbaord card...the Broadcom. The internal > ports show a link (using the Nortel manager...it's got a the Nortel > L3-7 switch in it). > > I found http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118238 last > night...it looks like that change was never commited by anyone...I'm > working on recompiling that into 7.1 now and plan on trying it once > it's done. I'll post the results up here (and to freebsd-net as well > if it works). > > I'm really hoping that works...since I really would like to avoid > installing VMWare ESXi on 14 blades just to run 1 VM in each of them > and loose performance. I'll keep y'all posted. > > --Brian > > -- > _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ > Brian McCann > > "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of > people waiting to abuse me." > -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 16:58:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D925A106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9421F8FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1My7Be-000IFq-Kf; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:58:54 +0400 To: Alexander Best References: From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:58:54 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Alexander Best's message of "Wed\, 14 Oct 2009 18\:40\:07 +0200 \(CEST\)") Message-ID: <45859329@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: whacky `fc-list` output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:58:55 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best wrote: > so why does fc-list output in utf8 if none of the LC_* vars is set to it? If you can reproduce it by rebuilding fontconfig from ports, it may be good to write to the maintainer (gnome@). -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:05:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BC1106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B768FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www-west2.es.net (www-west2.es.net [198.128.3.67]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EH5sZX028890; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:05:54 -0700 Received: by www-west2.es.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id 3812EA68016; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:05:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Squirrel-UserHash: GggBGx4CGw== X-Squirrel-FromHash: RF1FTAsCFkY= Message-ID: <42588.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255539954.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: jgrosch@es.net To: "Warren Block" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-10-14_09:2009-09-29, 2009-10-14, 2009-10-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0910140122 X-Regulatory-Partner: 1 Cc: jgrosch@es.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:05:55 -0000 > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, jgrosch@es.net wrote: >> nVidia support on i386 FreeBSD is not much better. One can use an nVidia >> card with 7.1 but under 7.2 one hits the dreaded mtrr error. A Google >> search finds many posts on how to fix this but none of them seem to >> work. >> I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested in >> working >> with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. ATI also seems to >> have >> a problem with mtrr under 7.2. I'm still trying to sort this out. I hope >> 8.0 will address these problems. > > All of my cards are ATI and I don't know of the "mtrr" problem you're > talking about. This X1650 works fine on i386 with both 7-STABLE and > 8-STABLE. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > I am seeing mtrr error using a Diamond Radeon HD4670 on FreeBSD 7.2 Josef From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:33:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8E71065676 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.14.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78EEF8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14797 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2009 17:33:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=6uoeoCXa55gRyg3647oyTjZ19sSs2rRNkuabvavCegvrO2+vA1DB5/hAONjSFwLFZmhCD9bcUbaZ53XGQtSXUidJxml1v34aPike9SRcBFbkQSC0TRP1gPGqLoyFX++RdYwZACbMw921be3vTzBhAWez7eUk3a+vsTFT7pMczKU= ; Received: from (jekillen@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2009 10:33:36 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 46rcWa.swBDnY9zvhIrsU2awgPSTQgUKFFrFJjEU8wwG X-YMail-OSG: bn_x9EcVM1ncv8.HPH4ESr11UATP5REMcuEXi0_EsV7sKDprpnMyS68_gd6tlbWMp319NCoiZAU5zKLXeNXt_9TO022_q40y3wP_G_Bvxts0AEe0nKTiIuBQJ4AUrThFSiL6YS7lfsiDkS3LOho5VuhWYLhBhSMax9OQ4grAU8Aeejz9BAsi9W5BbwmgvlU2kci3w.1OsqnIkaioJ..Rbljdp5lgYa0Sa5NkteP0tjDmcEQpLX2Tpi2tBlVqqNakfFmMYNuv4Pu4BcybZnexNAuJxnK7GG2GtEB6 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jeffry killen Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:33:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: First time for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:33:36 -0000 Hello; How is a usb device accessed on Freebsd. I installed an SATA drive in a usb enclosure and plugged in into usb port on the machine. Console message indicated detection of the device when the power switch for the usb enclosure was set to on. When I did mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) I got special device unknown. Or mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) /mnt needs block device. There is a first time for everything. man usb does not tell me. and Absolute BSD (M. Lucas) does not say anything about usb devices let alone how to access them. Thank you for patience and guidance Jeff K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:43:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD51106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD8C8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so51352yxe.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z+OdKcs8sy7q1SEJaibcaGMgZiE/lxR0KOPgpss0da4=; b=LmakCmCj8e2u376GM906hefK+yYzmy3IO9uaBwtuyM8ciMNaQKvL7ujyN+aKLH+OsM ixGFqTTsjZR/hxbBH2CbdxM9dZKG82RC5Q894JauMRtN8hUx67GTdgtnv88riagOVdBq crqzf+ER4cEWJEflzkk8rXTxOcWv55K7tu6pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qpeeiMAhJVHpGHrHJgJoNIPk581nPEn9vzPt/9RUOs6ABkSYvLJQH6agIkkGbMPJF7 PAynm/vrNwSloI4DIV7mJeN0HD/XziuGAHcbkzdxWlHKQTQS/G83dts+ctUCn0mpdL26 Y5wuJhsMD4P5TGA35t3WAAeO3BnDrI+U0RHnM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.61.3 with SMTP id j3mr15503280yba.76.1255542222807; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:43:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:43:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: jeffry killen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First time for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:43:44 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM, jeffry killen wrot= e: > Hello; > How is a usb device accessed on Freebsd. > I installed an SATA drive in a usb enclosure > and plugged in into usb port on the machine. > Console message indicated detection of the > device when the power switch for the usb enclosure > =A0was set to on. > When I did mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) I got > special device unknown. > Or mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) /mnt > needs block device. > > There is a first time for everything. > man usb does not tell me. > and Absolute BSD (M. Lucas) does > not say anything about usb devices > let alone how to access them. try: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/usb-disks.html > > Thank you for patience and guidance > Jeff K. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:44:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23C4106568F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B248FC1C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:35 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,559,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="15869684" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 19:44:33 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id AD38C1B0750; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:44:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:44:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Boris Samorodov , Alexander Best Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45859329@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: whacky `fc-list` output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:35 -0000 Boris Samorodov schrieb am 2009-10-14: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best wrote: > > so why does fc-list output in utf8 if none of the LC_* vars is set > > to it? > If you can reproduce it by rebuilding fontconfig from ports, it may > be > good to write to the maintainer (gnome@). i rebuilt the port but that didn't help. i informed gnome@ at the problem. thanks for the help. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:46:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77468106566C for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391B48FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 13:46:27 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QGA45842; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 13:46:26 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19158.3696.185282.314230@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:46:24 -0400 To: jeffry killen In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: First time for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:46:27 -0000 jeffry killen writes: > How is a usb device accessed on Freebsd. > I installed an SATA drive in a usb enclosure > and plugged in into usb port on the machine. > Console message indicated detection of the > device when the power switch for the usb enclosure was set to on. > When I did mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) I got special device > unknown. Look for /dev/da*. Also: I believe there's a section in the handbook that covers this. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:52:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A91C106568D for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA868FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 13:52:29 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QGA46972; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2009 13:52:27 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19158.4056.376760.654492@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:52:24 -0400 To: jgrosch@es.net In-Reply-To: <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:52:29 -0000 jgrosch@es.net writes: > I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested > in working with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. nVidia has offered what many/most hardware vendors* do not: to write and maintain a driver for their product. However, in order for that driver to be fully functional they want certain improvements in FreeBSD - particularly the virtual memory system. Not an unreasonable request. Some work has been done; there was a post somewhere within the last few months about John Baldwin making improvements. Check the archives of this list for pointers to the list of changes and the status of the work. Robert Huff * - a notable exception being Intel, for their network cards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:57:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01718106575F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306578FC12 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www-west2.es.net (www-west2.es.net [198.128.3.67]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EHvrHw031281; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:53 -0700 Received: by www-west2.es.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id 27144A68016; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Squirrel-UserHash: GggBGx4CGw== X-Squirrel-FromHash: RF1FTAsCFkY= Message-ID: <45432.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255543073.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> In-Reply-To: <19158.4056.376760.654492@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> <19158.4056.376760.654492@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:57:53 -0700 (PDT) From: jgrosch@es.net To: "Robert Huff" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-10-14_09:2009-09-29, 2009-10-14, 2009-10-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0910140135 X-Regulatory-Partner: 1 Cc: jgrosch@es.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:56 -0000 > > jgrosch@es.net writes: > >> I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested >> in working with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. > > nVidia has offered what many/most hardware vendors* do not: to > write and maintain a driver for their product. > However, in order for that driver to be fully functional they > want certain improvements in FreeBSD - particularly the virtual > memory system. Not an unreasonable request. > Some work has been done; there was a post somewhere within the > last few months about John Baldwin making improvements. > Check the archives of this list for pointers to the list of > changes and the status of the work. > > > Robert Huff > > * - a notable exception being Intel, for their network cards. Thank you. I am happy to be wrong about this. Josef From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 17:58:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77CC10656A6 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3F58FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so94328ywh.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WOOqL6pHJynHJA/4xZE5216r0ERTPRSLx6iC4ZQV1YI=; b=L8NgduT3XR0LG0q7hRwNL1RxjSzCvrOLm1P5F4sXCKxmi9sxq2mZZTglmy4WHH/LhV xEAyoXNElJqLaRl1okdmqM6YNa46afYIyOZIPjI//M7oO1JYdWHdJml19ca/0g3Db6w+ FO+kLMqRvPc7IDDb7+mXMz8UM6qzuRRUBXKd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tq3X6YZ61mdl95MCpOjIgr/2aahn9PDb/vU1qjTZ8euq/vwPTizhhX2M9p7wz/CTrS 0OaBgrfgnkPp//nPJyaO9lAH2InBoFcRTyUgNz6Z9sgIiE2nGewYHnyqxSehX5vR7h0m jdCKjIBF+QfUZpGSTVvdOTByZ7T5x9dGsIrNg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.104.2 with SMTP id b2mr15466769ybc.19.1255543129905; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3b93bd110910140924lf006440m63db0ce4ddb9e579@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b5f066d0910130531w7a7bf6aft81fd3782b7754e27@mail.gmail.com> <4AD5C17B.1000102@sepehrs.com> <2b5f066d0910140849q696fd00bl83e4879a3179c9ec@mail.gmail.com> <3b93bd110910140924lf006440m63db0ce4ddb9e579@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: <2b5f066d0910141058q3b40d5cdh96fa5cf3503a71f1@mail.gmail.com> From: Brian McCann To: "Diego F. Arias R." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "H.Fazaeli" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Broadcom bce interface problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:58:51 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Diego F. Arias R. wro= te: > do you double-check the internal por assignement? How many switchs=A0 has= that > blade1 or 2? > > You can try running a linux live-cd or maybe Windows to discard a FreeBSD > trouble with the nic. does Freebsd detects 1 or 2 nics, and how many does > the blade have? > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Brian McCann wrote= : >> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM, H.Fazaeli wrote: >> > what type of blade switch you are using? >> > Are you using HS21 onboard ports or an expansion card? >> > >> > Make sure the corresponding internal ports of >> > the blade switch are at 'no shutdown' state. >> > >> > >> > Brian McCann wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm having problems with the bce interface on a FreeBSD 7.2 install, >> >> using >> >> an IBM BladeCenter HS21 machine. =A0The machine uses the NetXtreme II >> >> card. >> >> =A0The really strange thing here is, the switch shows a link, but the >> >> card >> >> shows no carrier in the setup. =A0It started working for a few second= s at >> >> one >> >> point when I reset the switch (at least, I think that's what I did), >> >> and >> >> it >> >> detected 1000BaseSX as the media and showed a status of active, but >> >> promptly >> >> went away. =A0If I try setting the media type manually, that doesn't >> >> appear >> >> to >> >> work. >> >> Has anyone seen this or have any ideas? >> >> Thanks! >> >> --Brian >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Best regards. >> > Hooman Fazaeli >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Yes, I'm using an HS21 onbaord card...the Broadcom. =A0The internal >> ports show a link (using the Nortel manager...it's got a the Nortel >> L3-7 switch in it). >> >> I found http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D118238 last >> night...it looks like that change was never commited by anyone...I'm >> working on recompiling that into 7.1 now and plan on trying it once >> it's done. =A0I'll post the results up here (and to freebsd-net as well >> if it works). >> >> I'm really hoping that works...since I really would like to avoid >> installing VMWare ESXi on 14 blades just to run 1 VM in each of them >> and loose performance. =A0I'll keep y'all posted. >> >> --Brian >> >> -- >> _-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ >> Brian McCann >> >> "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of >> people waiting to abuse me." >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > mmm, interesante..... > Windows runs fine on them. I applied the changes mentioned the patch I just posted, and that fixed the problem...no throughput hit as a result. Thanks to all for the help! --Brian --=20 _-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_-=3D-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 18:00:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCEE1065697 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F68FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EI0Cor073787; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9EI0CDW073784; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jgrosch@es.net In-Reply-To: <42588.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255539954.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> Message-ID: References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> <42588.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255539954.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:00:15 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, jgrosch@es.net wrote: >> >> All of my cards are ATI and I don't know of the "mtrr" problem you're >> talking about. This X1650 works fine on i386 with both 7-STABLE and >> 8-STABLE. > > I am seeing mtrr error using a Diamond Radeon HD4670 on FreeBSD 7.2 Really need a lot more specifics. What is the exact error? What doesn't work? Which driver are you using? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 18:38:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3751A106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFE18FC1B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D3B37409; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:38:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:38:09 +0200 From: cpghost To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20091014183809.GA1519@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:38:14 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:55:05AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, jgrosch@es.net wrote: > > nVidia support on i386 FreeBSD is not much better. One can use an nVidia > > card with 7.1 but under 7.2 one hits the dreaded mtrr error. A Google > > search finds many posts on how to fix this but none of them seem to work. > > I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested in working > > with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. ATI also seems to have > > a problem with mtrr under 7.2. I'm still trying to sort this out. I hope > > 8.0 will address these problems. > > All of my cards are ATI and I don't know of the "mtrr" problem you're > talking about. This X1650 works fine on i386 with both 7-STABLE and > 8-STABLE. Try starting X with DRI, then quit X, and restart X again. If you don't have DRI anymore, chances are you've hit the ominous MTRR problem. At least, that's what I think it is, from what I've gathered from this list. I seem to have this problem with an ATI HD 3200, using the radeonhd driver under RELENG_7. It's pretty annoying, that if X crashes (or you have to stop it for some reason), you only get DRI support again after rebooting. :-( Having said this, IMHO ATI will probably be better supported in the long run on FreeBSD, because they have released the specs of rather recent chipsets, while nVidia has not (AFAIK). > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 18:54:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209F8106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40428FC1E for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9EIsYgV073966; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9EIsYJ8073963; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20091014183809.GA1519@phenom.cordula.ws> Message-ID: References: <20091014153100.GH22136@ece.pdx.edu> <20091014115949.33b1adb4@scorpio.seibercom.net> <12173.RF1FTAsCFkY=.1255538317.squirrel@webmail-west.es.net> <20091014183809.GA1519@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphics card recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:42 -0000 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:55:05AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, jgrosch@es.net wrote: >>> nVidia support on i386 FreeBSD is not much better. One can use an nVidia >>> card with 7.1 but under 7.2 one hits the dreaded mtrr error. A Google >>> search finds many posts on how to fix this but none of them seem to work. >>> I could be wrong but nVidia does not seem to be very interested in working >>> with the FreeBSD project to address these problems. ATI also seems to have >>> a problem with mtrr under 7.2. I'm still trying to sort this out. I hope >>> 8.0 will address these problems. >> >> All of my cards are ATI and I don't know of the "mtrr" problem you're >> talking about. This X1650 works fine on i386 with both 7-STABLE and >> 8-STABLE. > > Try starting X with DRI, then quit X, and restart X again. If you > don't have DRI anymore, chances are you've hit the ominous MTRR > problem. I do that all the time without noticeable problems, but then this particular card is an RV530 or RV560 chipset which has been supported for quite a while. Most or all of the Radeon HD cards are R600 or R700 chipsets, and that's still work in process. > I seem to have this problem with an ATI HD 3200, using the radeonhd > driver under RELENG_7. It's pretty annoying, that if X crashes (or > you have to stop it for some reason), you only get DRI support again > after rebooting. :-( Plain radeon driver from xf86-video-ati works best here, although I haven't tried radeonhd for a while. > Having said this, IMHO ATI will probably be better supported in the > long run on FreeBSD, because they have released the specs of rather > recent chipsets, while nVidia has not (AFAIK). Agreed. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 19:04:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3E3106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tokaev@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s34.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s34.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F78FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY113-W47 ([65.54.168.147]) by bay0-omc1-s34.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:04:51 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [95.72.155.165] From: Arkady Tokaev To: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:04:51 +0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2009 19:04:51.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[351FC120:01CA4D01] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unknown devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:04:52 -0000 While I was trying to update ports I have received message about absence di= sk space.It's impossible=2C I thought.But df command said:$ df -hFilesystem= Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on/dev/ad0s1a 23G 3.5G = 18G 16% /devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev/dev/md= 0 9.4M 2.8M 6.5M 30% /etc/dev/md1 31M 16M = 13M 55% /usr/local/etc/dev/md2 19M 18K 19M 0% /= root/dev/md3 31M 6.1M 24M 20% /var$What is the md devic= es?How I can remove them? freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 Arkady Tokaev =20 _________________________________________________________________ =C7=D0=E1=E2=DE =DC=E3=E7=D0=D5=E2=D5=E1=EC=2C =D2=E1=DF=DE=DC=D8=DD=D0=EF = =DD=E3=D6=DD=EB=D9 =D0=D4=E0=D5=E1? Internet Explorer 8 =DF=DE=DC=DD=D8=E2 = =D0=D4=E0=D5=E1=D0 =D7=D0 =D2=D0=E1. http://www.microsoft.ru/ie8= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 20:51:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC763106568F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B4B8FC1F for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id DFE05471FBA for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:51:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77743865BB for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:51:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:48:26 +0200 Message-Id: <200910142248.AA63898478@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:51:20 -0000 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x659d> AMD Features=0x20100000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 3220963328 (3071 MB) avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 64-87 on motherboard thanks, Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 20:54:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3863106566B for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F328FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so65115eyd.9 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=dcxO0syC564lvyqtIphRFmdzuAX/jgSl7ZWGnOTyIWY=; b=PcbsAhlO0go5CQRw34sZTeUITBX1lyfLtutcMzrvWjMXtkrTmWgFeRy9/47p7Wrwmb wGGP0a7nEYlZRp9fbuudBsgFfIRVLa92XuZRU//4E0pgoZwCZpWHB9au/We2c9ASvypl JS2L14zLc87JPB+BPNqXK8S/67rLT1aMOY64Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=iBos5dbmFZtiPpPgxXm8cNoIb2Xf/aC2k837i0sMb3yfB1DNuRUZPbRGEnahOgJJgd wPSNrsKDI5XnzwgpKyCCHdFURzvIZsiUU/PapaOJZA57V5X9s69Jhxi+8+CCf5bo9wAM jrBNrq6RvCYUjPSvOtCLLqncrHSQ2hJfdrTrI= Received: by 10.211.147.7 with SMTP id z7mr8075614ebn.4.1255553684358; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.2.2? (80-219-26-31.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.26.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm926019eyh.17.2009.10.14.13.54.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:54:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Anselm Strauss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:54:41 +0200 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: Re: No serial console input in loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:54:45 -0000 Hi, I have to come back to this problem. When I boot over the serial console, input works all fine until I come to the loader menu. There, input from the serial console is just ignored, I can not interrupt the autoboot and e.g. choose a different kernel. I have partitioned with GPT and installed /boot/pmbr into the MBR and /boot/gptboot into the first partition of type freebsd-boot. The keyboard works in the BIOS, and in gptboot I think, where I can interrupt the boot by pressing a key, and a list like this shows: FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0p2)/boot/loader boot: Then, in the loader menu the input is dead, when the kernel boots and also afterwards it works again fine. When I use GRUB to start the loader the keyboard also works. Any ideas on what the problem could be or how to track this down? Cheers Anselm > On Jun 28, 2008, at 13:15 , Anselm Strauss wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a small router that has no video output, it only supports a >> serial console. I configured the serial console in /boot/ >> boot.config, /boot/loader.conf and /etc/ttys. It's working in the >> BIOS, on the boot prompt before the loader starts, and when logging >> in on the getty. The only place where it's not working correctly is >> at the loader prompt. I can see the loader menu and the logo, but I >> can't choose the boot entry or interrupt the timeout. I can't make >> any input at all. What could this be? >> >> Cheers, >> Anselm >> > Don't know what this was, but now it works. I use Grub to directly > load /boot/loader as kernel. I set the serial console in the BIOS to > 115200 Baud. In Grub's menu.lst I then use: > > serial --unit=0 --speed=115200 > terminal serial > > and in /boot/loader.conf: > > console="comconsole" > comconsole_speed="115200" > > Seems like this is all that is needed. > > Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 14 21:08:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A187B1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC7A8FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so125182fga.13 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:08:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=aTrKkOJODcpNbjN1pGOzfdtshAgPW3jQuue6tRKygDI=; b=RhTxJNDaf90oEjPJhekMirNWoXUd2BEUP9UtfY70MCvG7JEMZj1oP3jAfCitsIFonv cM1LOdQENashKsHHcztpF619sRwRFhGtRb9E2MnaYShE4IIR5FTSQGMILmO3g0JxWnpl u4He7TmlwBt6KBE8HssXqLmd9QrRHs436upxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=yCiSto5O49L16vn9IsWPCGCRd5E47cgEY2jprZLUlDDOLSOA++LhNSpAqej0xkoS1A k7EgfLmFF+nhjg8fxOYtzqAUJX62ECEBcfC70bgOxr+YbgMr3woOCelJo9Cfaox+fdQZ BVfWWdscw//UtbkFMgU0oKi+bCykhsHictnJ0= Received: by 10.86.227.13 with SMTP id z13mr8186175fgg.72.1255554510831; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-19-46-209.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.19.46.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm174891fgb.26.2009.10.14.14.08.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:08:23 -0400 From: jhell To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <200910142248.AA63898478@mail.Go2France.com> Message-ID: References: <200910142248.AA63898478@mail.Go2France.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: