From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Mon Apr 29 13:53:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FC6158E5E8 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x733.google.com (mail-qk1-x733.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::733]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F3A28167F for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x733.google.com with SMTP id c190so5934966qke.9 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ai74ZH6RJlQ/xg8DRg9mt84Y7pRpdQe6G/izcwQAqW4=; b=Xp4QnwKG5CDPY8Ue8B4GffMg3Siau/UoVSPqIt1JkQo1M/UsMauvggpBnKyrsV6sdj mvDa1VwXqO1btuanpQMLMBnVrpexE4Eq3luSZlVgO1pcq69jqM+VRIPcyIf0p6ItaCum YaY5s6U9H9Gv3GSJgGXPmA+7ESlWxjtExbMiaJMtBskOOyleIawpp1MK7rH0DPgnwQva nciiTUHZAPkHD5IEriXVTvAGzcR/IqZWgLLuAfod2AK1o8o/GthoM3g5pJOp9ykZRx9n sZ3SgFQ8Mq3JgALPR+bNU7iZgW68tcdh9r7sxAq0kOU+Ltelu61yykqpQRoxT7x/Nu7+ ALDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ai74ZH6RJlQ/xg8DRg9mt84Y7pRpdQe6G/izcwQAqW4=; b=fzkKEcbYXp5lfX1NY0wqWNrqfsQTlLBKD6pz0Va5Ap6Ckd4C75T0DzjfnNkWdPZ4zA uXoqAlX9zqZCrFYI2ZZ+UDvI3AuXW9yKyrDh5u6uRiev6fVX2NXwxeUDfgDJPkVQGeJH FLrt24EF9XlCUHDQkRMvzyVzYWqL0T7JCrL/yZ2Xpb0u0ElfFnccB9WbrXpQ3WqhhHid LNpZgwCV5p3SqLwhDR/+nA4LONJe3DPqXJAdaRW91DPlkVbC9sH25wKAinT2hZ1KePva O4bz6CwNocba06MR69JhAP5lUmPsjjoM/eczhKaT4BZZQD6Qq7cg1jpYDSeVKyLWtNTJ TJRg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUXrTWSkDVSD68xbLWJbIqqqEDBMznWvwCSLiI35ZnfOc1kTAZp lYouoSzfeut06JlJMIRXsiVUouyet7y22GikCg/NCg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzZKb2lv3q2OOf+w7yaHybarznTO8K/tnhSjOZXlfJWFBHxKi3uozhNmEFARWNcIC7hliJnsMKhIF6pHcypAxI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1014:: with SMTP id z20mr16025034qkj.258.1556546012497; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:53:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> <1393169f-7988-7ce6-e030-8c61727f78b8@FreeBSD.org> <02f301d4fe90$f5270d70$df752850$@ixsystems.com> <021ff3c4-c325-61e1-21d0-2ee0a89e3642@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <021ff3c4-c325-61e1-21d0-2ee0a89e3642@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:53:17 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base To: Lev Serebryakov Cc: Kris Moore , FreeBSD Current , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0F3A28167F X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=Xp4QnwKG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.776,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.93)[ip: (-9.17), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.17), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:53:33 -0000 On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:50 AM Lev Serebryakov wrote: > On 29.04.2019 16:39, kris@ixsystems.com wrote: > > > > > This should be very doable with this package base. We use it for FreeNAS > in a similar manner, where we disable a couple dozen things from base, > resulting in a much more stripped down userland-base package. By default we > also break out the doc/tests/debug bits into their own userland-* packages, > for same reasons, to keep image nice and small. > > > Ok, after > > > # tar tf FreeBSD-HEAD-pkgbase-x64-20190426.iso | grep All > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/ca_root_nss-3.43_1.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/jq-1.6.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/kernel-20190420203550_1.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/oniguruma-6.9.1.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/pkg-1.10.5_5.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/userland-20190420203550.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/userland-base-20190420203550_7.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/userland-docs-20190420203550.txz > dist/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/All/userland-lib32-20190420203550.txz > # > > I was under impression, that there is only 3 userland packages, not > 100+ :-) > It's a tradeoff... 100+ packages is super granular, but also a PITA to manage. 3 package installs quite a bit faster than the 100+ packages due to a large fixed cost in pkg per package, but isn't granular enough to tailor for NanoBSD systems. Warner > -- > // Lev Serebryakov > >