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Date:      Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:45:57 -0800 (PST)
From:      Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Mike Karels <karels@FreeBSD.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: RFC: Sendmail deprecation ?
Message-ID:  <tkrat.62583cd3f686358a@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20171214003852.GA7123@lonesome.com>
References:  <201712131321.vBDDL29q039904@mail.karels.net> <20171214003852.GA7123@lonesome.com>

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On 13 Dec, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 07:21:02AM -0600, Mike Karels wrote:
>> It seems to me that the option that is best-integrated, and which serves
>> the needs of the greatest number of systems, is the sendmail in base.
> 
> I will submit the following from one of my boards:
> 
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD orangepiplus2e 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #10 r326497M: Sun Dec  3 22:14:12 UTC 2017     linimon@burner12.lonesome.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm.armv7/sys/GENERIC  arm
> # whereis sendmail
> sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/share/man/man8/sendmail.8.gz /usr/ports/mail/sendmail
> 
> i.e. we are installing sendmail, by default, on single-board systems
> that may have less than or equal to 512M of RAM.
> 
> I think this is silly.

Not really silly.  This machine runs sendmail as one of its primary
jobs:

FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE #0 r325913: Fri Nov 17 04:13:36 UTC 2017
    dl@mousie.catspoiler.org:/usr/obj/i386.i386/usr/src/sys/GW i386
FreeBSD clang version 5.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_500/final 312559) (based on LLVM 5.0.0svn)
VT(vga): resolution 640x480
CPU: VIA Nehemiah (1000.06-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin="CentaurHauls"  Id=0x698  Family=0x6  Model=0x9  Stepping=8
  Features=0x381b93f<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
  VIA Padlock Features=0xdd<RNG,AES>
real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)
avail memory = 245055488 (233 MB)


I used to run a corporate mail relay with sendmail on a Pentium machine
with 128 MB of RAM.




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