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Date:      Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:40:29 -0700
From:      Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
To:        Nathan Dorfman <na@rtfm.net>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Pawel Biernacki <pawel.biernacki@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: A different proposal
Message-ID:  <86C6A2FD-DA42-425C-9E49-4A959311955F@vpnc.org>
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On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Nathan Dorfman <na@rtfm.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> =
wrote:
>> If your reliance on OpenSSL bugs being fixed requires a fix at a rate =
faster than what the FreeBSD community provides, then you should not =
rely on the FreeBSD community. Install OpenSSL on your mission-critical =
systems from OpenSSL source, not from FreeBSD ports or packages.
>=20
> I really don't think one needs to go this far. The workaround provided
> in the original OpenSSL advisory, recompiling with
> -DOPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS, was directly applicable to FreeBSD. For
> anyone unsure exactly where to effect that option, it was discussed on
> this very list. Also posted on this list was a working patch
> containing the actual fix, on Monday afternoon.

That fixed *this* bug; earlier ones took actual patches.

> So yes, if you want a fully tested, reviewed and supported fix, you
> had to wait, but anyone in desperate need of an immediate fix had
> options that didn't involve ditching FreeBSD's OpenSSL.

I was not proposing ditching FreeBSD's OpenSSL when the next bug was =
found: I was proposing that you switch at your own speed before the next =
emergency. And I'm not proposing that's the best thing to do: I'm =
certainly not going to, I'm quite happy with the FreeBSD response.

This is a different proposal than "someone should get paid to reduce my =
security timing issues". It is "I should take responsibility for my =
security timing issues".

--Paul Hoffman=



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