From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 2 22:55:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E455D106564A for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@barragry.com) Received: from cork.barragry.com (cork.barragry.com [72.232.202.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D608FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@barragry.com) Received: by cork.barragry.com (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 81FF31D8012; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:55:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:55:32 -0500 From: Erik Osterholm To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090602225532.GA88740@barragry.com> References: <4688025620918128507458768288443306245-Webmail@me.com> <20090602215339.GA86750@barragry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:55:33 -0000 On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:34:55AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they > > don't want to be a part of that community after all. That's why it > > Just reread this and, ... don't you think it's quite like a good filter? > > I don't talk about sponsors, but a new potential users. > > If someone needs good unix, he/she will try it and join us. As i said > before if he/she agrees with maillist users personal opinions doesn't > matter at all. Rather if you can get answer to questions about FreeBSD. > You can, even easier if some moderation would be present here. Considering that the mailing list is one of the few places where support exists, I don't know that I can agree with you. Also, I don't think that an artificial filter or barrier-to-entry is desirable, in general. If a person needs good unix, but they don't learn well by reading technical documentation, a good community can be highly beneficial. Personally, I wouldn't want to discriminate against users for this. > Some people may want both, but well you can't have everything. It's not > possible to everyone will agree with everyone on mailing list, and with > every potential new user. I know that disagreeing is inevitable. My position is that a pleasant tone would be nice. An example of a harsh tone (one which I haven't seen on here) is telling someone to RTFM. Another example (which I have seen on here) is people who just enjoy arguing turning reasonable threads into flamewars. > This keeps the system's quality high. I politely disagree. I doubt that a harsh community does anything to maintain a high-quality system. Erik