From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jan 25 19: 6: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF2337B401 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B8F43F1E for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0Q35uc4085634; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:05:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0Q35uGv085633; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:05:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:05:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Peter Kieser Cc: Terry Lambert , Alexandr Kovalenko , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 PR is not very good... Message-ID: <20030125220556.A85608@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030125062732.GA92204@nevermind.kiev.ua> <1043517532.651.1.camel@sharpie> <3E330F58.A9B3CC33@mindspring.com> <1043549638.651.11.camel@sharpie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1043549638.651.11.camel@sharpie>; from pfak@telus.net on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:53:58PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, yes. But it can be fixed, even now. It would be nice if someone went into the archives, got out that comprehensive to-do list, and posted it in a nice HTML version where people could claim tasks, statuses could be given, etc. Committers are available to back real work. We are not available to spew hot air. :-) On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:53:58PM -0800, Peter Kieser wrote: > Was searching through the archives and found this: > > "With version 5 coming up, we have a great chance to get people to look > at FreeBSD, and to get a lot of positive press. We'd be fools to let > that chance pass by." > > Well, I guess we are fools, we already let that chance go, and alot of > people are looking at this release as the release that failed. > > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:27, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Peter Kieser wrote: > > > Heck, I can't even get a FreeBSD 4.5 box where I live. In BC, Canada. > > > I'd love to see it in the stores, I'd surely buy it if at all possible. > > > > You need to talk to the reformulated Walnut Creek CDROM; also, > > please do not confuse "Sales" with "Marketing". On of the worst > > mistakes you can make, if you are a startup, is to lump them > > together while you are trying for funding. > > > > -- Terry > -- > Peter Kieser > pfak@telus.net > > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ - against microsoft attachments > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message