From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 18 12:27:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7668EB26 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail37c50.megamailservers.eu (mail233c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B875E2C7B for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:27:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf.alice-dsl.net Received: from [92.231.7.5] (g231007005.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.231.7.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail37c50.megamailservers.eu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9ICRQ1h028588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:27:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1382099245.677.11.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: OT: UPS buying suggestion From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:27:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20131018201356.681cc983@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <525F0138.1020304@fjl.co.uk> <20131017093820.6a8428de@X220.ovitrap.com> <1381988697.5852.16.camel@archlinux> <20131017142910.61325830@X220.ovitrap.com> <1381992680.5852.45.camel@archlinux> <525FD4C8.1090600@fjl.co.uk> <1382015420.5852.97.camel@archlinux> <1382015735.5852.100.camel@archlinux> <20131018120441.175b7e7d@X220.ovitrap.com> <1382092546.3945.22.camel@archlinux> <20131018201356.681cc983@X220.ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.0 cv=dYI3Kwre c=1 sm=1 a=H8CVVvt+A81GNaPjMvU5Hw==:17 a=ALKwz0t7uJUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rsIYsMhsAAAA:8 a=hQBWr5Cos4sA:10 a=DiI3k-HjAAAA:8 a=uB5oKopyhrs4FsE-WS0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=SDGrNw0pTfEA:10 a=YbRgvEGZV6fsBoMz:21 a=HMj8QMXmQiBhIXAK:21 a=H8CVVvt+A81GNaPjMvU5Hw==:117 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.52612931.000B, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:27:38 -0000 On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 20:13 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:35:46 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 12:04 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > As mentioned before, a workshop in addition must use an > > > > > isolating transformer, by this galvanic isolation you can't get > > > > > an electric > > > > > > I highly doubt this. Only larger workshops have a transformer. > > > > It's needed for every workshop in Germany. > > > do want to say laboratory? > > > http://www.reichelt.de/?ACTION=3&GROUPID=3320&ARTICLE=21747&SHOW=1& > > http://www.reichelt.de/Labornetzgeraete/PEAKTECH-2240/3//index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=4952&ARTICLE=101937&SHOW=1&START=0&OFFSET=16&&gclid=CNPrquyVoLoCFcmV3god3h8Abw > > > A workshop will need 25kVA and more but not 150VA. > > > Assumed it shouldn't be needed in other countries, it's anyway common > > that engineers only work on gear connected to the mains by galvanic > > isolation _in all countries_. You won't spend 50,-€ to save lives ;)? > > > You wanted to say laboratory. Yes, this is needed then in most > countries with a public electricity network. :D Ok, I wanted to say by companies that e.g. build audio equipment or that repair television sets etc. and of course by laboratories and schools. :)