From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 3 20:32:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28F16A422 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (www.tegenbosch28.nl [217.21.249.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BA443D73 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [192.168.2.2]) by freebee.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E422AA58; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:31:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4408A7A3.8080700@digiware.nl> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:31:31 +0100 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <000001c63d69$fa961cc0$0a0a0a0a@aus.pervasive.com> <004001c63d95$241e6130$0500a8c0@upton.net> <20060302100250.GC733@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20060302100250.GC733@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:54:49 +0000 Cc: Paul Murphy , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Importing csup into base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:32:03 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Wed, 2006-Mar-01 20:03:38 -0500, Paul Murphy wrote: >> Larry Rosenman wrote: >>> Wilko Bulte wrote: >>>> Only if it has a mechanical reader (with sensing pins for the holes). >>>> An optical reader won't do > > Optical readers can't handle the output from chad-less punches. > I was forced to throw mine out when I moved last. :-( > >> I remember, back in the day, all the CS kids walking around with huge >> stacks of PUNCH-CARDS. > > We were told (by our lecturers) that we should use punch cards, rather > than the terminals, so that we wouldn't loose our work when the computer > crashed. One of my assignments was roughly a full box of cards but I've > mislaid them. I remember that the Cumputing centre even had a puchcard sorter, so that in case that you dropped a big pack you need not do the sorting by hand. (If you had taken the effort to number them in the last 8 columns. No idea if this was typical Burroughs.... Started programming intel 8008 kits by toggeling the bootcode into 512 bytes. After a while you get to know the opcodes by hart, and even jump distance would become a way of life. And I don't count programming a TI58a math calculator as real programming. --WjW