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Date:      Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:      youshi10@u.washington.edu
To:        eculp@encontacto.net
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intel C2D COREs not used equally in FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.43.0706051530450.27212@hymn09.u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20070605133924.om35kjhiscg0o0o0@intranet.encontacto.net>

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On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 eculp@encontacto.net wrote:

> Quoting Wesley Shields <wxs@atarininja.org>:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:40:34AM -0500, eculp@encontacto.net wrote:
>>>  Quoting Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>:
>>> 
>>> > Diego Depaoli wrote:
>>> >> 2007/6/5, Ed Schouten <ed@fxq.nl>:
>>> >>>> In practice there's (almost) only one reason not to run
>>> >>>> FreeBSD/amd64 on amd64-capable hardware:  If you depend
>>> >>>> on a certain piece of software which is known not to run
>>> >>>> correctly in 64bit mode.  Fortunately those are not many.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess most of those are still waiting for a 64-bits nvidia.ko.
>>> >> That's true.
>>> >> Is there any news?
>>> >>
>>> >    Yeah, a lot of people are still waiting for that (including me.. 
>>> can't
>>> > get nv to work under amd64 :(...).
>>> >    We should band together and get nvidia to speed up amd64 development 
>>> a
>>> > bit more *sigh*..
>>> 
>>>  Boy am I glad that I am reading this thread.
>>> 
>>>  As weird as it may sound, I was going to go buy a new laptop, amd64 with
>>>  nvidia.  In fact the explanation given by Oliver helped push me over to 
>>> AMD
>>>  in addition to past experience has always been good with them.  I also 
>>> had
>>>  the idea that AMD had purchased a chunk of nvidia which made the decision
>>>  make even more sense to me.  Luckily  I saw these, before rather that 
>>> after
>>>  the fact.
>>> 
>>>  I understand from this that the nvidia will not run the new xorg-7.2 with
>>>  AMD64?  Am I reading this right or am I just having a case of PRE-buyers
>>>  remorse?  ;)
>> 
>> Nvidia cards work just fine - just not with the nvidia driver.  I'm
>> using xorg 7.2 with the nv driver just fine on an AMD64 laptop.
>> 
>> -- WXS
>> 
>
> Wesley, you made my day.  Thanks.  To show my ignorance, I thought the nv 
> driver was synonymous with the nvidia driver.  I use nv for all my desktops 
> with AMD but they are not AMD64 and they work great.
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> ed

nv will always work with nVidia chipsets (until the maintainer at nVidia stops supporting it :)..) because it's completely open sourced. As for the nvidia driver, like was stated earlier, it's close sourced, and only works on i386 now.

-Garrett




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