From: "Mark B. Withers" <mwithers@one.net> To: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux (some venting) Message-ID: <20010122175412.A15001@arrakis.desert-power.org> In-Reply-To: <20010122215640.12072.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net>; from slavik944@metconnect.com on Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:57:41PM -0500 References: <20010122215640.12072.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net>
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Might I recommend ISP-Hookup howto? heh heh :) VEG Mark On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:57:41PM -0500, Steve M wrote: > On Mon, 22 January 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > > Steve M <slavik944@metconnect.com> types: > > > > I've fixed the formatting on your mail. Could you please hit newline > > every 70 characters or so, or configure your mailer to wrap your > > paragraphs before it sends the email? It makes it a lot easier to read > > and reply to. > > Sorry I'm having trouble figuring out why my email doesnt wrap > automatically all of a sudden. > I'm trying to be more careful in the future. > > > > > I guess to rephrase my earlier 'condemming' of documentation, what > > > bothers me is having to have to run from one source to another to > > > find the answer. The man pages are useful but to the laymen they > > > are in geek speak. > > > > > > Your's is only the second email I've read regarding this and hope > > > that there are people who are little bit more objective than you > > > appear to be. > > > > Since you asked for another opinion, you get mine. I agree, having to > > go from one source to another to find information is a major > > pain. Even worse, you don't always find the information you're looking > > for. > > > > On the other hand, my experience with Windows is that you also have to > > go from one source to another to find information - and you fail to > > find the information you're looking for more often than not. I admit > > that more often than not I'm looking for information that most users > > don't care about - but at least on Unix-like systems, I can usually > > find it. On the open source ones, I can always find it if I'm willing > > to dig deep enough. > > > > I have used systems that had nearly complete documentation in one > > place - usually referred to as "the <color> wall", for its 10s of > > shelf feet of manuals all with the same color binding. VMS manuals > > tended to be useful. MVS tended to do things like "Error XXX#### - see > > error YYY####", "Error YYY### - see error ZZZ####", and finally "Error > > ZZZ#### - probable user error, correct and resubmit." Oddly enough, > > source was available for both of those, if only on microfiche. > > > > The point being that computer systems documentation all pretty much > > sucks. > > I'll add to that that the 'free/public versions' docs of *nix are better than most. > > In my defense I did say that I was venting, being truly > frustrated by my lack of progress. > > I will also admit that I 'learned' MS first but it's easier to > use only in the sense that it is a 'toy'. I wouldnt > consider it a real OS, it gets proven to me everyday when > I use my NT box at work. When I switch from window > to window or window to desktop the desktop blinks like a > cheap video game. It's the little things that get > to me. Also I learned MS because it was > a necessity. I was working at a PC store putting home PC's > together. > > One other thing, I got an interesting email from someone > accusing me of being a 'baby' ever since my Linux > box ate my email. > To that I would respond by saying the following. > Every chracter that I type on my Linux box my hard > drive on the computer has to 'grind' like as if it's etching > another character on it's medium. > Since Linux touts to be one of the best OS's wouldnt > it stand to reason that I should expect more from it? > Or atleast not something that I would expect an NT > machine to do? > > In either case it doesnt really matter because I > still have to get home tonight and get my modem to work > with my ISP or find out why it doesnt. On my BSD > that is. > > Label me a heretic if you wish, I can assure you > that you dont have to question my devotion > to the *nix's. The benefit's far outweigh > the drawbacks as compared to NT. > > I know that once everything is up and running it > will be running like a swiss watch. > > Steve M > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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