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Date:      Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:55:02 +0100
From:      Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
To:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 4.11-R
Message-ID:  <200412180955.03826.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
In-Reply-To: <20041218063028.GD30373@brandon.dvalentine.com>
References:  <20041218055311.GA52088@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041218063028.GD30373@brandon.dvalentine.com>

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On Saturday, 18. December 2004 07:30, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
> [ Redirected to -x11. ]
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 09:53:11PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > The ports freeze for 4.11-RELEASE will start on 12/30 at 12:01 AM UTC.
> > It's our intention to have a short freeze of a week or less this time
> > because the ports collection is in relatively good shape on 4.x at the
> > moment, so please don't do anything to change that.
> >
> > In particular, in the lead-up to the freeze, please make sure you test
> > major updates carefully on 4.x prior to committing, and if you don't
> > have the opportunity to do so, then either ask someone else to test,
> > or hold off until after the freeze.
>
> I know most of us are quite busy this time of year, but out of
> curiosity, is there any chance at all of Xorg 6.8 making it into the
> tree before this release?

The default X Window System for 4.x is XFree86 anyway - and given how near =
4.x=20
is to its EOL, that won't change anymore.

Xorg on 4.x actually isn't much of a safe bet - packages are not built for =
it=20
(or against it) and any combination FreeBSD4 + Xorg + <some-port> receives=
=20
few to zero testing. I've already seen one report of KDE "not working right=
"=20
on 4.x with the Xorg 6.8.1 patches that have been floating around - and sin=
ce=20
nobody from the current KDE team has time to maintain a 4.x + Xorg system,=
=20
this combination will most likely become unsupported.

So, cut short, you should think twice before deploying 4.x systems with Xor=
g,=20
it will greatly increase your support overhead one way or the other - if fo=
r=20
the only reason that you will need to build your own packages for them.

=2D-=20
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