From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 0: 9: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95A014CEE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1178.bossig.com [208.26.241.178]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23908; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <381BEB24.7383F130@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:09:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hofmann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help on loader.conf References: <38193640.CFFD07B3@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Hofmann wrote: > > Hi., > I missed ti configure my ethernet card correctly in the beginning of > instalation > I can reconfigure only temporarily now with UserConfig . > But when I boot next time all parameters are lost. > Can I give these parameters to some file in loader.conf or kernel.conf? > and if Yes how is th format. > Or do I have to reinstall the whole system or make a new kernel to get > along? You didn't say what system you were using. I am running 3.3Stable and my NIC parameters go into /etc/rc.conf. I have an ifconfig_fxp0 and a network_interfaces. I use my FreeBSD system as my demand dial router but that is the next level of information. Get your NIC running first. Kent > > If you can help me I'd be glad > > Yours > > Thomas Hofmann > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 0:33:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E0314C23 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06978 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700 Message-ID: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm at my wit's end. I'm using the stock bind 8.1.2 that came with FreeBSD 3.3 and I'm having one helluva time getting various reverse mapping stuff working right. I hope somebody will take pity on me and help me with the parts that aren't working. First let me say that all of my forward lookups seem to be working just fine. So that part is alright at least. Also, the reverse lookup for 127.0.0.1 seems to be working OK too. So here are the problems: Problem #1) Regardless of the fact that I seem to have setup my reverse lookup zone properly for the 127.0.0.* zone, every time named starts up it puts an error message in the syslog that says: Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? I've tried desperately to find out what is causing this message, but to no avail. I even ran "strings" on /usr/sbin/named and grepped the output of that for the string "rev" just to see if the named executable was even creating this message, but no dice. No such string in the executable! So where does this message come from and how can I get it to go away? The message doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it annoys me because I have a bad feeling that it is really trying to tell me that I screwed something up which is very fundamental. Problem #2) Try as I might, I have not been able to setup reverse DNS names for various RFC 1918 reserved IP addresses that I am using behind my firewall. For example, I'd like to setup a PTR record for the address 10.0.0.7 or maybe 192.168.0.7. WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? I have patterned everything I have done after the instructions (from the Grasshopper book) that I used to setup the reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1 and *that* seems to work OK. So why, oh why can't I get the same thing to work in the case of 10.0.0.7? This is *really* aggravating. I'm just building bind 8.2.2 now, and I plan to install it and try it in the vague hope that it may make things better, but I have a bad feeling that doing that won't change a thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 1: 9:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0814DBE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11hq35-0004cP-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA15790 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: fixing broken install... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, i took everyone's advice and tried to figure out everything myself so far. But, i found 2 things that have me stumped. 1. How do i make the xterm in windowmaker go away, so it doesn't start on default? I did this before but i can't for the life of me figure out how. 2. Navigator is looking for ld.so. In my last installation, i installed everything. This time i went smaller. Where can i find this file? ???/libexec/ld.so -jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 1:44:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592D914C36 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ron@zappa.demon.nl) Received: from [195.173.232.30] (helo=win98) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11hrXM-0002Kl-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:44:33 +0000 From: "Ron Klinkien" To: Subject: Cannot get userland PPP to workl.... Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:47:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bf2384$e269c120$0301a8c0@demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to get an PPP dialup with one of my ISP's to work, but it just hangsup right after the connect. I have search the mailinglist, archives and newsgroups, found 1 or 2 logs which looks the same to mine, but there was no solution in a reply. I have tried this with two modems, an USR Dual Standard V90 and a 28K8 one, and with two ISP's one that I know supports PAP for sure, they both don't support ogin:--ogin: type of things... I only build a new kernel with tun support and created an ppp.conf Here is my ppp.log after I have executed # ppp -ddial sw Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_lock("cuaa1") Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = open("/dev/cuaa1", 6) Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Opened /dev/cuaa1 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: tty_Create: physical (get): fd = 0, iflag = 0, oflag = 0, cflag = 4b00 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: physical (put): iflag = 201, oflag = 0, cflag = 3cb00 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0x2816c9d0 = fopen("/var/run/cuaa1.if", "w") Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: Phone: 0184711054 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT0184711054^M Oct 31 10:28:23 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT0184711054^M^M Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 28800/ARQ^M Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Using tty_Timeout [0x806f3e8] Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: Waiting for carrier Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa1: CD detected Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Entering tty_Raw Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 53/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 e0 1c 1c 1c 00 00 c7 1c 00 00 c7 e0 1c 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 e0 00 00 f8 00 00 f8 00 8e 00 00 c0 1c 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: c0 1c 00 00 c0 00 00 8e 00 8e e0 1c 00 00 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 c7 00 80 e0 ..... Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:49 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} }8}( Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 1/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 . Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 12/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun 0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 8e 00 80 e0 fc e0 1c 00 00 f8 fc fc ............ Oct 31 10:28:51 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:52 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 6/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 8e 00 fe 00 f0 ...... Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 9/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 00 80 00 fe 00 fe e0 fc ......... Oct 31 10:28:54 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:55 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 3/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 8e e0 ... Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 13/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 fe 00 80 e0 fc e0 1c e0 00 00 ff fc ............. Oct 31 10:28:57 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:58 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} }8}( Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 5/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: fc e0 1c e0 fc ..... Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 16/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 00 80 00 fe e0 00 80 00 fe 00 00 ff 00 00 c7 ................ Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: S till online Oct 31 10:29:01 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Close Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 41 secs: 118 octets in, 260 octets out Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: total 9 bytes/sec, peak 34 bytes/sec on Sun Oct 31 10:29:02 1999 Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/cuaa1.if") Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_unlock("cuaa1") Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for redialing. I have used all sorts of combinations enable/disable pap chap vjcomp etc... zappa# uname -a FreeBSD zappa.demon.nl 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #50: Sun Oct 31 09:56:44 CET 1999 ron@zappa.demon.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/MOON i386 Please help. Regards, Ron. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 3:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6729E14E34 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from PARANOR (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17704; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:41:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991031063615.01049718@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:15 -0800 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [...] >Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory > >What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? [...] And have you run the make-localhost shell script in the /etc/namedb directory? I think it might be missing the execute bits BTW. cd /etc/namedb chmod +x make-localhost ./make-localhost named (or something) Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 4:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E6814BFF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 04:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16371 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21549 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24001 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with strong encryption, in Europe? My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost every need for them elsewhere. -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5: 7:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.240.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DE214CDF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu) Received: from pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (pegasus.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.240.30]) Ident [ewayte] by pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114CD3430; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Wayte To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe In-Reply-To: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gunnar, Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well as many other platforms. Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended on many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). Eric Wayte, DBA Univ. of Central Florida ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 > From: Gunnar Flygt > Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe > > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > strong encryption, in Europe? > > My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't > want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost > every need for them elsewhere. > > -- > __o > regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5:37:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mashie.force9.net (mashie.force9.net [195.166.128.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B7F214C3A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ian@tirnanog.org) Received: (qmail 30550 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 -0000 Received: from mayfly.plus.net.uk (HELO mayfly.force9.net) (195.166.128.28) by mashie.force9.net with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21889 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 13:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO A189-06-02.dial.plus.net.uk) (212.56.95.189) by mayfly.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 13:37:24 -0000 From: Ian J Greely To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:40:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the FreeBSD version crippled then? The standard *doze* export version of Netscape actually has full 128 bit encryption but only with certain keys. Banks in foreign (to the US) countries can buy certificates which will turn on this 128bit encryption for *their* transactions with the customer. So far as I was aware only Banks could get these keys. As I recall there was a hack for the Doze code that would turn on the 128 bit encryption for ALL communications.=20 regards, Ian On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Gunnar, > >Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit >security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well >as many other platforms. > >Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended = on >many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). > > >Eric Wayte, DBA >Univ. of Central Florida >ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu > >On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 >> From: Gunnar Flygt >> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe >>=20 >> Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with >> strong encryption, in Europe? >>=20 >> My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I = don't >> want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost >> every need for them elsewhere. >>=20 >> --=20 >> __o >> regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ >> email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>=20 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mailbox.mcs.net (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A259F14CBE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tforrest@Mailbox.mcs.net) Received: (from tforrest@localhost) by Mailbox.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17617; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:55:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tforrest) Message-Id: <199910311355.HAA17617@Mailbox.mcs.net> From: "Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:55:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DHCP Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy everyone. Learning a lot here. Making great progress on my first FBSD box. Alas, I have another question. When I first started this box up it had no problems getting a DHCP address from my cable modem provider (rr.com). For some reason now the system refuses to get a DHCP addy. I can plug a static address in and it works fine (until the DHCP server gives out my address to someone else). I know there is nothing wrong with the cable modem as I can get leases from it using my wintendo box. the command i use in rc.conf is "ifconfig_xl0="DHCP" also when i use /stand/sysinstall and goto the network setup it asks if i want to obtain a DHCP lease, i tell it yes and nothing comes back to fill in the blanks. Ideas on how to correct? thanks. Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM - tforrest@mcs.net http://www.mcs.net/~tforrest And now, its time, for some useless, bandwidth wasting words of wisdom: If the shoe fits, buy it.----Imelda Marcos PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 5762 A3CC 8EA5 8542 9666 222B 61A9 2558 ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 6: 1:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.xcelcom.com (mx1.xcelcom.com [216.42.43.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB2314CAF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greyheart@fnmail.com) Received: from xcelcom.com ([216.42.43.9]) by mx1.xcelcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14439 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:05:13 GMT Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:05:13 GMT From: greyheart@fnmail.com Message-Id: <199910311405.OAA14439@mx1.xcelcom.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Looking for more information... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Anybody knows where the missing chapters of the usd, the smm, and the psd are? Thanks in advance. Pablo Oh, BTW, I cannot send mail to the lists of freebsd.org through sendmail at home, why? It says 'hostname not encountered' or something. --------------------------------------------------------------- This Message was Powered by Xcel Communications Sign up for your FREE EMAIL account today at http://www.mailroom.com Give your FAX machine an email address http://www.faxroom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 6:36:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f126.hotmail.com [209.185.131.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A668014CDF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 94263 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 1999 14:36:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.132.206.240 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:10 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.132.206.240] From: "nelson huang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:36:10 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, but it always responses with the message "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Thank you. Nelson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7: 2:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from infoviaplus.net.ar (adv20.infoviaplus.net.ar [200.9.212.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8023314E06 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from estebango@infovia.com.ar) Received: from terminal ([209.13.203.252]) by infoviaplus.net.ar (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #941382085.075940001; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:01:25 -0300 Message-ID: <000801bf23b0$8c1d2600$fccb0dd1@terminal> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Esteban_G=F3mez?= To: Cc: Subject: Como conseguir los CD de instalacion de Freebsd? Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:59:32 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Infomail-Id: 941382085.1DAA01AC1E03A1.42085 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deseo instalar Freebsd en mi PC. Conoc=ED de este producto por un = art=EDculo de una revista espa=F1ola, y quiero saber un poco m=E1s. En = especial, me interesa las prestaciones que tengan que ver con Internet y = dise=F1o Web. =BFC=F3mo consigo los archivos de instalaci=F3n? Espero respuesta. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7: 6:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A61E14DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031150616.RZHV3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:06:16 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA67768; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help References: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Ronald F. Guilmette"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700" Message-ID: <8766zna7tj.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ronald F. Guilmette" writes: > I'm using the stock bind 8.1.2 that came with FreeBSD 3.3 and I'm having > one helluva time getting various reverse mapping stuff working right. > ... > Problem #1) > > Regardless of the fact that I seem to have setup my reverse lookup zone > properly for the 127.0.0.* zone, every time named starts up it puts an error > message in the syslog that says: > > Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory > > What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? /etc/namedb/localhost.rev is the standard place to put the reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1. It's normally referenced in named.conf like: zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "localhost.rev"; }; It can be automatically generated by the make-localhost script in /etc/namedb. > Problem #2) > > Try as I might, I have not been able to setup reverse DNS names for various > RFC 1918 reserved IP addresses that I am using behind my firewall. For > example, I'd like to setup a PTR record for the address 10.0.0.7 or maybe > 192.168.0.7. WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? I have patterned everything I have done > after the instructions (from the Grasshopper book) that I used to setup the > reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1 and *that* seems to work OK. So why, oh why > can't I get the same thing to work in the case of 10.0.0.7? It's hard to guess what you might be doing wrong since there are obviously some problems with how you've set up the reverse mapping for localhost too. You could show us what you're doing. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E2114DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031151630.SCCQ3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:16:30 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA67878; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "nelson huang" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap References: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: "nelson huang"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:36:10 CST" Message-ID: <873dura7ci.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "nelson huang" writes: > Hello, > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > but it always responses with the message > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:17:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca (indyweb.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE1714DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foub@globetrotter.net) Received: from windows.cgocable.ca (141-154.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.141.154]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17744817 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:17:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501bf23b3$13657e80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> From: "Guillaume Paquet" To: Subject: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:17:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Guillaume Paquet foub@globetrotter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:20:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mb04.swip.net (mb04.swip.net [193.12.122.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405DA14A0B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:20:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@flame.org) Received: from enterprise (d212-151-85-8.swipnet.se [212.151.85.8]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07167; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:20:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991031161908.016688e0@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se> X-Sender: andy@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:20:12 +0100 To: "Guillaume Paquet" , From: Andreas Berg Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program In-Reply-To: <000501bf23b3$13657e80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: >Hi, Hello, >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel panic? >Guillaume Paquet >foub@globetrotter.net -Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:54:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca (indyweb.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D0E14BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foub@globetrotter.net) Received: from windows.cgocable.ca (141-154.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.141.154]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17498980 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> From: "Guillaume Paquet" To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991031161908.016688e0@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se> Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... Guillaume Paquet foub@globetrotter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Andreas Berg To: Guillaume Paquet ; Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > >Hi, > > Hello, > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel panic? > > >Guillaume Paquet > >foub@globetrotter.net > > -Andy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:55:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD0A14BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy0383@twcny.rr.com) Received: from andy ([24.92.246.235]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:48:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bf23b7$c1d03ba0$02c810b0@andy.twcny.rr.com> From: "A Minkstein" To: Subject: Dial Pad service Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:51:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a small problem with the service available on Dialpad.com. = It allows you to call anywhere in the US for free. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 8: 6:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9714BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id RAA04312 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:06:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA46511 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:05:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Date: 31 Oct 1999 17:05:25 +0100 Message-ID: <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se>, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > strong encryption, in Europe? cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator && make -DUSE_128BIT install clean -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 8:23:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from brutus.converging.net (edtn002029.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.135.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C4D14C24 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dtougas@brutus.converging.net) Received: (from dtougas@localhost) by brutus.converging.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06177 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:27:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dtougas) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:27:01 -0700 From: D Tougas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A make world question Message-ID: <19991031032700.A6160@converging.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I do a make world, does kernel.GENERIC automatically get re-built, or do I have to re-compile the generic kernel as well? Thanks. -- Damien Tougas Converging Technology Solutions, Inc. Phone: (780)469-1679 Fax: (780)461-5127 E-mail: dtougas@converging.net http://www.converging.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 0:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.207.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CC14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsdbob@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu) Received: (from fbsdbob@localhost) by weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25791; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fbsdbob) From: FreeBSD Bob Message-Id: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-Reply-To: <381A3E1A.C5372A5C@multinet-media.com> from Drew Wiggins at "Oct 29, 1999 07:38:51 pm" To: drew@multinet-media.com (Drew Wiggins) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:05:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've been debating whether or not to post to this legacy thread. > But I figure, what the heck...I'll add my 2 cents to the pot and > maybe someone can cash in on a car or boat or something. Well, IMHO, the discussion is a good way to feel out the common wisdom. So, yer zwei pfennigs is welcome. ..... > ..... If it was easy > then everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it good. > ( or maybe that's just me being a control-freak again ). Generally agreed, but, for the sake of discussion, we have to consider the future. There will come a point in time, if FreeBSD is going to survive with reasonable PR, userbase, generic utility, etc., that it will have to consider joe enduser running the home box on cablenet. Joe user is not the professional Berserkeley type, nor the AT&T suits. But, he is the guy fed up with Gatesware, and has heard a little or a lot of buzz about this thing *nix (mostly via Penguin buzz) down at the coffeeshop or the bookstore. Now, if we, as Berserkely types want to compete in that market, for joe user, then we have to present ourselves a little better, or perhaps differently, than we would to the longhair bearded sandal crew that I grew up in. The sandal crew is gonna get it done, one way or the other. So, that's a null issue. But, I sense, from reading 500 emails a day, on the list (whew!), that there is a need for something less sandal crew, and a little more geard towards garnering our share of the Penguins-to-be. We can't expect to flesh out our flock by just catching the discontented Penguins. Although there is merit for using the Penguin school for our Basic Training, I think we should approach it more directly than that. Folks, the budding *nix community has gotten bigger than just the Berserkeley sandal crowd and the geek compsci majors. If we fail to accommodate the joe endusers, then we are missing the boat in a big way. How do we do that? Good question, but, there are some serious things that should be considered, based upon what I am gleaning from all the newsfeeds regarding *nix, as well as our own lists. 1. We do need some kind of better training algorithm for the newbie types that are not the professionals with years of experience, or the compsci majors. 2. We do need some serious on-line training materials, perhaps like some of the OSU courses, or that kind of thing, presented in a way that will immediately catch the incoming newbie, and guide them along. 3. We do need some kind of hands-one test drive machine, either via the website, OR, via something as watered down as a Training Wheels version of the system that comes up out of a dos shell. Such a version could be used for evaluation, for training, and for a one-upsmanship PR coup. The above is only IMHO, and we all know everyone is entitled to one IMHO, just like they are entitled to one arse. But, I do sense we can't remain the cloistered Berserkeley sandal crew, forever. > Is RTFM a prerequisite for new UNIX users? If they want to > get anything out of me it is, and I'm generally a nice guy. I think > most people feel the same way. RTFM is always important. But, I sense our FM's are needing some clarity. They are quite good for the professional, and most every tidbit is there, somewhere, but, sometimes it can be difficult to find. > If you've been monkey-trained to point and click, and you > are looking for a starting place, then master what you know: learn > dos inside and out, network functions, telnet, FTP, hosts, lmhosts, > establish a general knowledge of networking, write some batch files, > mess around with autoexec.bat and config.sys, learn a programming > language ( VB does not count ). It will make the transition a lot > easier. Then pickup a shell account and read a book on dos->unix > command translations. There are probably more similarities than > you imagine. The problem is that joe enduser does not come from a dos background, anymore, so that method of training is gone. He can't just pick up a shell account anymore, because they are harder and harder to find with everything becoming webbized. He needs the account on his own hardware, for even the most basic training. Forget anything dos... dos does not exist anymore. You have to start WITH *nix directly. Now, the problem is getting joe enduser there, directly. > Will a try-out version of FBSD work...who knows? If it helps > build better users, then I'm all for it. If it creates a overpopulated > group of quiters who whine and moan, then I think I could do w/o. > IMHO, I think it may provide people who think they are interested > a chance to make a better decision without us all having to listen to > them and ourselves discussing what we've all heard a million times > ( as I know this is not new information, so hold the hot stuff ). Whiners go elsewhere. Serious joe endusers are most welcome to sign on board. Perhaps it is time to finalize discussions, and take some proactive tack (to borrow buzzwords). > Last but not least, let's make a quick comparison. Let's say > you just bought a brand new stick-shift Corvette. Then decided > that you didn't want to deal with having to learn how to drive a > car with a manual transmission. Would you complain to the > manufacturers, that they made the car too difficult to drive? > Or would you opt to drive another car, that's more suited to your > driving preferences? Just a thought. Interesting aside with the auto bits. If you buy a hot rod, and you want to race with the bigboyz, you have to go through something like Bondurant's racing school, or that sort of thing, for hands-on training, before they even let you out with the 'vette. Sadly, with *nix, they shovel you out the door onto the track, and say crash first, and then ask for help, but first RTFM. Sadly, there aren't many Formula 1 or CART racing manuals to read. I still stand by my contention that we need something for the joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, (although that method seems to work, too). Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 1:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D525814CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id VAA29357 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:50:06 +0500 (ES) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA02441 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:34:23 +0500 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00591 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:35:03 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:34:59 +0500 (ES) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear All, 'man rmail' says ............. BUGS Rmail should not reside in /bin. ............. what is Rmail ? if 'rmail' meant, s-s-s-s-o $ which rmail /bin/rmail $ Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBOBxvteRxlWKN2EXhAQEwzwMAt6bgajPhHWP74kQb5EJdnHmFPRlwq6ln 4zZ07LPP7j1JkOJ96o1IzHmmrAt/p7oXsmfG0mM6ubp1xPn7bjvqcuDt1u0Eq/Uz wuVrml76X4V66v4LH+s897j9jy78jaIU =Qdtp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 8:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F131A14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id SAA08482 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:08:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA47078 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:22:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Example programs using sysmouse? Date: 31 Oct 1999 17:22:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7vhqc0$1duo$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I keep running into programs that offer mouse support through xterm's mouse tracking or the Linux gpm daemon. The FreeBSD syscons console driver offers similar functionality by way of moused(8)/ sysmouse(4). Are there any programs at all that use this? I'm looking for examples I might be able to use to add sysmouse support to applications. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:14: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D973F14E72 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:13:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09424; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:11:55 -0800 (PST) To: Kevin Street , Tom Embt , Alex Derevyanko Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help In-reply-to: Your message of 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500. <8766zna7tj.fsf@mired.eh.local> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:11:55 -0800 Message-ID: <9422.941393515@segfault.monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Regarding my questions about named setup... NEVERMIND! Something that Kevin Street said made it all click, and I finally realized my incredibly stupid error. (I _was_ correct that something very fundamental was screwed up.) Here's the deal... I am/was accustomed to running named (8.2.x) AS DISTRIBUTED BY ISC.ORG. When using a straight-out-of-the-box named from ISC, the configuration file is in /etc/named.conf, and I had no idea that named could ever, or would ever be built in such a way as to make the default path for the configuration file be someplace else. Boy was I wrong! The named (8.1.2) binary that is being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 has apparently been built so as to assume the default path to the configuration file is /etc/namedb/named.conf. I didn't know that. So of course, I was fiddling /etc/named.conf and making all of these local changes and setting up all sorts of elaborate stuff, and what do you know! None of it was ever even taking effect! Now that I know what the problem was (and now that I have made the file named /etc/namedb/named.conf just be a symlink to /etc/named.conf) things are working 100% better. My thanks to everyone who sent me responses. P.S. More questions: (1) Why was FreeBSD 3.3 distributed with what would seem to be such an out-of-date named? (2) Why was the named binary that is being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 built to use a different default path for the configuration file from the one that (it seems) ISC recommends? Does this fall into the category of `annoyingly pointless incompatibilities'? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:32: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5D214C48 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA57510; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:29:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <199910311829.NAA57510@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Esteban_G=F3mez?=" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Como conseguir los CD de instalacion de Freebsd? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:59:32 -0300, Esteban G=F3mez wrote: >Deseo instalar Freebsd en mi PC. Mira http://www.freebsd.org/es/ Ahi hay informacion sobre FreeBSD en Espan~ol. Esta lista es en Ingles. Nota aparte.. tu direccion de retorno(?) le falta el ".ar". No mas apare= ce "estebango@infovia.com" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:35: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (diana.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6E314C48 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rj@futon.sfsu.edu) Received: from ns1 (madmax-77.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.77]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18260 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:32:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Roy Jezmajian" To: Subject: Cannot Connect To My Machine!! Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:42:55 -0800 Message-ID: <000801bf23cf$bf53b600$7b00a8c0@ns1.brainstorm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I have a problem with a FreeBSD machine and was wondering if anyone can help. Machine A is a FreeBSD 2.x box. I do not know the exact version because I cannot connect to it right now. Machine B is a Red Hat Linux 6.0 installation. I can telnet to Machine B, but not Machine A. When I try to telnet to Machine A from Machine B, this is what happens: [roy@redhat roy]$ telnet myFreeBSDbox.com Trying 1.2.3.4... Connected to myFreeBSDbox. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. [roy@redhat roy]$ Names & numbers have been changed for security reasons, but you get the point. It should also be told that the boxes are connected over a DSL line, and that both machines have an internal IP (non-routable, used only inside the network) and a (routable) IP address used by the rest of the internet. When the router receives a message from the internet, it looks at the destination IP (routable) and routes the message to the appropriate internal address. The problem is I cannot connect to machine A (myFreeBSDbox). It does not respond to any request over the network whatsoever, and cannot even be pinged from outside the network. If anyone has any suggestions, please write back. RJ rj@futon.sfsu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:42:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from thorin.gamf.hu (thorin.gamf.hu [193.224.222.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75814CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tamas.kocsis@shark.hix.com) Received: from shark.hix.com (ws0.idom.hu [193.68.47.65]) by thorin.gamf.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12297 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:29:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:44:12 +0100 From: tamas kocsis X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.023) S/N AA757DD7 Reply-To: Tamas Kocsis Organization: dti Message-ID: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good day, Could you tell me, how I can use my VAX 4000 VLC workstations with FreeBSD ? Configuration of VAX 4000 VLC Worksations: 16MB RAM 120MB HDD 17" DEC VRM17 monocrom display, mouse, keyboard. I have got 74 piece VAX 4000 VLC WS , and I would like use this with FreeBSD operating system. Could you help me ? Thank you, and best regards: Tamas Kocsis Deloitte & Touche IDOM Consulting Inc. Hungary, Budapest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:50:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA6D14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id TAA15717 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA50238 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:01:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: A make world question Date: 31 Oct 1999 19:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: <7vi056$1h1m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19991031032700.A6160@converging.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG D Tougas wrote: > When I do a make world, does kernel.GENERIC automatically get re-built, or > do I have to re-compile the generic kernel as well? "make world" only builds the user land. Kernels must be made separately. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from amukta.gci.net (amukta.gci.net [208.138.130.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AD514CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from irisinc@gci.net) Received: from gci.net ([208.161.163.219]) by amukta.gci.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FKHDSG01.M0Y; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:53:04 -0900 Message-ID: <381C907D.4C8B82ED@gci.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:54:53 -0900 From: Rusty Root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Bob Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > (although that method seems to work, too). > > Bob > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how and why this configuration was established in the first place. Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with it. Rusty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28CB14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (dscheidt@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA33242; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:49 -0600 (CST) From: David Scheidt To: tamas kocsis Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations In-Reply-To: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, tamas kocsis wrote: > Good day, > > > Could you tell me, how I can use my VAX 4000 VLC workstations with > FreeBSD ? Configuration of VAX 4000 VLC Worksations: Step one would be to port FreeBSD to the VAX, since it doesn't run on them. You can run NetBSD on VAXen, see www.NetBSD.org. regards, David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:10:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EE214BDB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id OAA29119; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:10:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:10:48 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson To: tamas kocsis Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations In-Reply-To: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have got 74 piece VAX 4000 VLC WS , and I would like use > this with FreeBSD operating system. FreeBSD doesn't yet run on VAXen, but at http://www.us.netbsd.org/Changes/cvschanges/by-ragge-199904.html I see: 9 Mar: Basic KA48 (VAXstation 4000 VLC) support. [...] 26 Mar: Buggfixes for VS 4000/VLC. Basic support for VS4000/90 and MV4000/300. [...] 27 Mar: Note addition of 4000/VLC, 4000/90 and 4000/300. [ragge] Try NetBSD. __ Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:12:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pangeia.com.br (spliff.pangeia.com.br [200.239.53.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE63414C0E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nelson@pangeia.com.br) Received: from localhost (nelson@localhost) by pangeia.com.br (8.6.12/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA02448; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:11:20 -0200 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:11:19 -0200 (EDT) From: Nelson Murilo To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe In-Reply-To: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try www.fortify.net Regards, -- ./nelson -murilo On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: }Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with }strong encryption, in Europe? } }My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't }want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost }every need for them elsewhere. } }-- } __o }regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ }email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:21:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F320F14C0E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iratus@home.com) Received: from cc602670-a ([24.0.114.133]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991031192114.UCRC8534.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@cc602670-a> for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:14 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991031112114.008eb610@mail.flrtn1.occa.home.com> X-Sender: iratus@mail.flrtn1.occa.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:14 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: iratus@home.com Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-Reply-To: <381C907D.4C8B82ED@gci.net> References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:54 10/31/99 -0900, you wrote: >> >> I still stand by my contention that we need something for the >> joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, >> (although that method seems to work, too). >> >> Bob >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure >but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. > >It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how >and why this configuration was established in the first place. > >Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your >through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with >it. > >Rusty > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I really don't want to start a flame war but you might consider the following since what you seek is there: The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, almost any basic book on Unix as BSD is a well know unix version, the FreeBSD handbook which is included with the various distributions (2.*, 3.* etc), all of the man pages (though I agree they are a handful just to interpret in some cases), if you are headed for guruhood a look at the original 4.4BSD series is nice, and a search of Amazon.com will show you more then I think just about anybody could remember. As an aside, if you don't know what you have after you are done perhaps time with any of the aforesaid books should be spent BEFORE you install. Its really all there if you just look, though it has been my experiance that "handholding" is probably in short supply though IMHO, this isn't that big a deal. Just my 2cents worth. Jeff Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:34: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f18.hotmail.com [209.185.131.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E53014A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:33:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 59438 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 1999 19:33:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.31.24.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:33:58 PST X-Originating-IP: [163.31.24.52] From: "nelson huang" To: street@iname.com, chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:33:58 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > but it always responses with the message > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! > >Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: > >portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). >portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). Yes, I did. But the server was still failed. Any idea? Nelson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:43:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (hal-pc.org [204.52.135.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E1414A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cravey@hal-pc.org) Received: from [206.180.128.41] (206.180.128.41.dial-ip.hal-pc.org [206.180.128.41]) by mail.hal-pc.org (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAB02158 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:06 -0559 (CST) X-Sender: cravey@mail.hal-pc.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:04 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Stephen P. Cravey" Subject: Upgrading ports and existing programs Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, ports-really-really-buggy)? Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I cvsup the new ports? at all? when? Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my 3.1-stable system? Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? upgrading or removing them? basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? Thank you. -Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:45:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A732514A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02706; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:22 -0600 (CST) From: Joe To: Guillaume Paquet Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program In-Reply-To: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Guillaume Paquet wrote: > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:10 -0500 > From: Guillaume Paquet > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... Another thing to look at is your cpu fan. I had a machine that would reboot without any sort of panic or error message whenever I cvsup or did a make world. Turned out the cpu fan was not cooling sufficiently. -Joe > Guillaume Paquet > foub@globetrotter.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andreas Berg > To: Guillaume Paquet ; > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > Hello, > > > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel > panic? > > > > >Guillaume Paquet > > >foub@globetrotter.net > > > > -Andy > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:57: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210DB14E5E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA48141 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: Subject: RE: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you doing something stupid like overclocking? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Guillaume > Paquet > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:54 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... > > Guillaume Paquet > foub@globetrotter.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andreas Berg > To: Guillaume Paquet ; > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > Hello, > > > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel > panic? > > > > >Guillaume Paquet > > >foub@globetrotter.net > > > > -Andy > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12: 0:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CEC14E5E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA48162 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: Subject: RE: Dial Pad service Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <000701bf23b7$c1d03ba0$02c810b0@andy.twcny.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What an interesting way to Spam a website...You can get more IP's and not use NAT for one solution. I'm not a fan of NAT so that would be my choice. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of A Minkstein Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:51 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dial Pad service I am having a small problem with the service available on Dialpad.com. It allows you to call anywhere in the US for free. Apparently If you use NATD or IP Masquerading you can talk to the person on the other end but you can't hear what they are saying. Their web page says that the packets get lost and don't know where to go. Any way, I was wondering if anybody knew of a way around that, so that it would work and I could still keep the UNIX box running NATD. Also check out their site it is really good. Free too! ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What=20 an interesting way to Spam a website...You can get more IP's and not use = NAT for=20 one solution. I'm not a fan of NAT so that would be my=20 choice.
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I am having a small problem with = the service=20 available on Dialpad.com.  It allows you to call anywhere in the = US for=20 free.
Apparently If you use NATD or IP = Masquerading=20 you can talk to the person on the other end but you can't hear what = they are=20 saying.  Their web page says that the packets get lost and don't = know=20 where to go.  Any way, I was wondering if anybody knew of a way = around=20 that, so that it would work and I could still keep the UNIX box = running=20 NATD.  Also check out their site it is really good.  Free=20 too!
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12:33: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BF414EEB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:33:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031203301.VPIS3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:33:01 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA42554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:33:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Stephen P. Cravey" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs References: From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 15:33:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Stephen P. Cravey"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:04 -0600" Message-ID: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Stephen P. Cravey" writes: > I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from > ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. > > Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, > ports-really-really-buggy)? There's just one ports tree -current. In cvsup I use: ports-all tag=. prefix=/usr > Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously > installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I > cvsup the new ports? at all? when? Only when you're about to do a `make install' of a new port. Then you should pkg_delete the old one. BTW `make deinstall' won't work unless the version of the new port is the same as the one installed, in which case you probably don't need to re-install it anyway. > Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my > 3.1-stable system? Rarely. Only when the new port relies on a feature that's not present in 3.1. If it does it would usually fail in the `make all' so you'd know not to `make install'. Don't pkg_delete the old one until the make all has succeeded. > Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? > upgrading or removing them? No. It will update the ports tree in /usr/ports but not install any new ports until you `make install' one of them. > basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? Should be no problem. Have fun. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB20C14A29 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA66197; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:58:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312058.PAA66197@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap In-Reply-To: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> from nelson huang at "Nov 1, 1999 03:33:58 am" To: chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com (nelson huang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:57:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: street@iname.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nelson huang wrote, > > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > > but it always responses with the message > > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! > > > >Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: > > > >portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). > >portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). > > Yes, I did. But the server was still failed. > Any idea? Does portmap also produce errors in /var/log/messages? What is the output of, # rpcinfo -p When I last had this problem, it was due to the bug in the loopback address configuration mentioned in the 3.3 errata. Check to make sure you get the following, # ifconfig lo0 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13: 1:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C6214A29 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66213; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312104.QAA66213@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs In-Reply-To: from "Stephen P. Cravey" at "Oct 31, 1999 01:43:04 pm" To: cravey@hal-pc.org (Stephen P. Cravey) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:04:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stephen P. Cravey wrote, > I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from > ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. > > Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, > ports-really-really-buggy)? No. > Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously > installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I > cvsup the new ports? at all? when? The ports tree has nothing to do with installed, running software. If the program works now, it will operate in the exact same manner. It is analogous to CVSup'ing the FreeBSD source tree. Nothing on the running system is changed until you 'make world'. > Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my > 3.1-stable system? Most ports should work fine across all 3.x systems. Most will even be fine for 2.2.8. > Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? > upgrading or removing them? No. Well, that is not true. When version numbers change, you will not be able to 'make deinstall' a port. However, this is easily worked around by doing a 'pkg_delete '. > basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? CVSup'ing the ports tree cannot mess anything up until you go into a port and type 'make '. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13: 7:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rknebel.uplink.net (rknebel.uplink.net [209.173.88.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B98D14E76 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rknebel@rknebel.uplink.net) Received: (from rknebel@localhost) by rknebel.uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01785 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:06:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rknebel) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:06:17 -0500 From: Rick Knebel To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xcmail Message-ID: <19991031160617.A1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Has anyone got a email program called xcmail working with freebsd? I really would like a GUI email program but do not like exmh. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel rknebel@uplink.net http://rknebel.uplink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:31:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rknebel.uplink.net (rknebel.uplink.net [209.173.88.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9083214BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rknebel@rknebel.uplink.net) Received: (from rknebel@localhost) by rknebel.uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02066 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:30:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rknebel) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:30:01 -0500 From: Rick Knebel To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xcmail Message-ID: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I actually found a tar.gz version of xcmail for FreeBSD. It will install okay but when I go to run it I get: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" Even if you don't use this program can anyone give me an idea what library is missing and where I can find it. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel rknebel@uplink.net http://rknebel.uplink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:35: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from easystreet01.easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7242114BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tashchuk@easystreet.com) Received: from easystreet.com (dsl-209-162-218-66.easystreet.com [209.162.218.66]) by easystreet01.easystreet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13282; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <381CB52D.6702C7A3@easystreet.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:25 -0800 From: Bohdan Tashchuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; BSD/OS 4.0.1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help References: <9422.941393515@segfault.monkeys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > > P.S. More questions: (1) Why was FreeBSD 3.3 distributed with what would > seem to be such an out-of-date named? (2) Why was the named binary that is > being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 built to use a different default path > for the configuration file from the one that (it seems) ISC recommends? > Does this fall into the category of `annoyingly pointless incompatibilities'? I ran into very similar problems. Bind 8.1.2 was causing timeouts and so I upgraded to 8.2.1. As you point out, the location of the config file is different between what is in FreeBSD 3.3 and what is in the 8.2.1 port. Also, the port itself is a bit of a hassle, because it installs into /usr/local/... and doesn't replace the obsolete Bind binaries. Earlier I had the same problems with FreeBSD 3.2 and so was disappointed that the September release of 3.3 didn't include the newer Bind which was released in June. In fact I was so anxious to fix my Bind problem that I uploaded the ISO disk image as soon as 3.3 came out, to no avail. Since it didn't fix my problem I avoided buying the CD-ROMs, so the upload definitely saved me some money. I don't know how things are in the Linux world, but this same situation was very typical for BSD/OS, the commercial version I used to use. Whenever a new release of BSD/OS came out there would be complaints that the distributed version of some random software was out of date. So FreeBSD is no worse in that respect, and given that the ports mechanism makes updating relatively easy, FreeBSD is IMO better than BSD/OS in regards to current versions. And since so much of FreeBSD is "volunteer", and it's all free, I really can't complain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:35:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Eng.Auburn.EDU (dns.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AE714BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyeaiya@eng.auburn.edu) Received: from lab33.eng.auburn.edu (0@lab33.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.14.33]) by Eng.Auburn.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11115 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:35:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dyeaiya@localhost) by lab33.eng.auburn.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA23018 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:48:25 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: lab33.eng.auburn.edu: dyeaiya owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:48:25 -0600 (CST) From: "(dai) Yawen Dye" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, everybody, I have problem mounting Linux ext2fs under FreeBSD system. I recompile the kernel with "options "EXT2FS" ",and I try to mount the Linux file system using " mount -t ext2fs /dev/wd0s1 /mnt", the system tells me " wrong magic number 11d, ef5* expected for EXT2FS". What should I do? Let me describe how I install the system. I have no CD, so I first install DOS on my computer (2G Disk, I give 800M to DOS), then download all necessary distributions on DOS partition; then I install BSD on the unused disk, after I finish the BSD installation, I delete the DOS patition and install Linux on that 800M space. when all are done, 1. I boot up into Linux system: partition check gives message: hda1 hda2 hda3(hda5 hda6 hda7) "fdisk" tells me that BSD is on hda2, and hda1 is extended partition, hda5, hda6 and hda7 are Linux native or swap, and if I use 'b' to verify BSD slices,it's ok. I sucessfully mount the BSD file system under /mnt 2. I boot up into BSD "disklabel" can't give me any information on Linux partiton. I can't mount Linux under BSD I really want to how I can mount ext2fs under BSD. Please help me. Another question: Does FreeBSD 3.2 support Lucent wavelan wireless network card? How can I find information on how to install device driver, such as pcmcia driver, wavelan card driver ?I get a wavelan driver source code on some website, how can I make it work? When system is bootup, it finds my card in one slot, but I think it doesn't work because it has no proper driver. What can i do? Your helps are appreciate. Sincerely, Yawen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:46:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sargon.net (dialup-209.245.132.3.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.132.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19E14BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@davida.com) Received: from davida.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sargon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01449 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@davida.com) Message-ID: <381CB883.77C1F868@davida.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:45:39 -0800 From: "Joseph I. Davida" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-19990613-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: logging of chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The chat man page says that everything is logged via syslog, unless options -V or -S or -s are used, or when echoing is enabled. The following chat script is not sending any useful info to the log file chat.log: /usr/bin/chat -v -r /var/log/chat.log ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABO RT "ERROR" ABORT "NO ANSWER" ABORT "BUSY" "" ATZ OK ATDT8494321 CONNECT "" ogin:--ogin: SomeUser ssword SomePassword I was hoping to capture the strings setnt to and received from the mode. After getting no useful info, I resorted to adding this to /etc/syslog.conf: !chat *.* /var/log/chat.log still I get no log of any exchanges with the mode. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:53:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.intekom.com (smtp.intekom.com [196.25.69.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3240914F33 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evablunted@earthling.net) Received: from uta36-01-p45.ec.saix.net ([155.239.168.45] helo=earthling.net) by mail.intekom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) id 11i2tc-0001jL-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: <381CBA5C.3637F3AD@earthling.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:53:32 +0200 From: Langa Kentane Organization: Sunshine Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Squid auth_module installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have been trying to install the squid NCSA auth_module but ran into some trouble. A trace of the steps I took follows: 1. Untarred by squid tarball 2. did a cd squid-2. whatever stable 5 (2.2 I think) 3 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/squid 4. cd auth_modules/NCSA 5 make I then got the ff error: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lmiscutils: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. What do I do now? Please help before my boss kills me. Thanks in advance. oh, please send replies direct to my address. Langa Kentane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14: 7:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC60C14F2A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) Received: from localhost (jwg@localhost) by cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14673 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) X-Authentication-Warning: cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com: jwg owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:01:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Gray X-Sender: jwg@cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com To: Questions at FreeBSD Subject: chmod on zip disk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmmmm.... My Iomega zip disk works fine, for both read and write, except, 1. as root if I chmod nothing happens. # chmod 664 readme.txt # ll total 29506 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8399 Oct 31 10:34 calendar -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30198060 Oct 31 13:06 piiijwgr.gz -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4079 Feb 15 1995 readme.txt 2. the files are being created as executables even though my umask sets files, as root, as 644 Suggestions welcomed. Thanks Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14: 8: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977F14F3D for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id RAA29795; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:07:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:07:40 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson Reply-To: Trevor Johnson To: Rick Knebel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xcmail In-Reply-To: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" > Even if you don't use this program can anyone give me an idea what library > is missing and where I can find it. Under 3.3-STABLE, "locate" turns up /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 . If you have that too, you could try making a symlink: # cd /usr/X11R6/lib;ln -s libXpm.so.4 libXpm.so.4.10 Better yet, the source seems to be at ftp://trilug.fh-trier.de/pub/XCmail/xc-mail-1.0.0.tar.gz . __ Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6661714BED for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 11i3Jl-000Gef-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30492; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: Kevin Street Cc: "Stephen P. Cravey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs In-Reply-To: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? -jm > >Only when you're about to do a `make install' of a new port. Then you >should pkg_delete the old one. BTW `make deinstall' won't work unless > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:31:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F77014BF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA66468; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312234.RAA66468@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: chmod on zip disk In-Reply-To: from Jeff Gray at "Oct 31, 1999 02:01:22 pm" To: jwg@netbox.com (Jeff Gray) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (Questions at FreeBSD) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Gray wrote, > Hmmmmm.... > > My Iomega zip disk works fine, for both read and write, except, > > 1. as root if I chmod nothing happens. > > # chmod 664 readme.txt > # ll > total 29506 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8399 Oct 31 10:34 calendar > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30198060 Oct 31 13:06 piiijwgr.gz > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4079 Feb 15 1995 readme.txt > > 2. the files are being created as executables even though my umask sets > files, as root, as 644 > > Suggestions welcomed. Does the disk have an MS-DOS filesystem? MS-DOS FS does not support file mode bits or ownership. See mount_msdos(8). -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:34:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.multinet-media.com (ns1.multinet-media.com [207.18.212.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B214BF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Received: from multinet-media.com (bdwiggy.multinet-media.com [204.0.122.254]) by ns1.multinet-media.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01961; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:34:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Message-ID: <381CC3DF.1D1B398D@multinet-media.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:34:07 -0600 From: Drew Wiggins Organization: MultiNetMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Bob Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some interesting and very valid points. I think we are looking at things from different standpoints, but share some of the same goals. I like the idea of restructuring the learning approach. For most Unix users, the FMs, online information and faqs, etc are sufficient ( and for someone who is really interested in picking this stuff up, too ). But for today's typical newbie user we do need a more structured suggestion than "RTFM. Which one...? All of them." Maybe we can implement a reward-based system to keep them motivated. Have you ever seen someone study for an MCSE or CCIE exam? I think maybe creating a certification program might help in a several ways. 1) Keeps the user motivated 2) Provide staged learning objectives 3) Give direction and structure to an otherwise "learn whatever you can whenever you can" approach. 4) A reasonably priced exam could help the project financially. Now, to make this thing work, we would have to deem it as a "prestigious, but not impossible" development testing program. At least, we could expect a large group of users who fail the tests but still use the OS because they did learn something, like the OS, and will continue to learn through it's use ( bypassed the whole newbie stage ). At most, we have a large group of users who could easily step into any SA postition with ease and comfort, or who have the capability to contribute to the project. Not to mention the fact that they would be complete FreeBSD advocacy campaigners, seeing as how that's what they're now certified in. ( it's an ego thing, everyone does it. ) Some of the changes you are suggesting, require $$$. I know that there are several of us that would volunteer these services, but the whole PR thing kinda requires it. So we have one of two choices. We could make FreeBSD, $$$BSD and go against the Berkley tradition. Or a few of us can get together and begin promoting the helloutta it. The problem with the first is that it's not going to happen. The problem with the second is that the majority the people we are going to be publicizing to are going to be the same frustrated enduser Joe who started this message thread. And I don't blame them for being frustrated. I just respond differently. But if there's anything worse than no publicity it's bad publicity. So then we can talk about changing utilities to make them more "Joe-friendly." Making a more universally compatible install. More support for various hardware with pre-built drivers. In essence, you're asking for a lot more than just a new marketing approach. Drew P.S. The biggest problem with today's users is that they want to race before they can even drive. I think a drivers license is a prerequisite for entering a Bondurant course. Point taken, though. FreeBSD Bob wrote: > > I've been debating whether or not to post to this legacy thread. > > But I figure, what the heck...I'll add my 2 cents to the pot and > > maybe someone can cash in on a car or boat or something. > > Well, IMHO, the discussion is a good way to feel out the common wisdom. > So, yer zwei pfennigs is welcome. > > ..... > > > ..... If it was easy > > then everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it good. > > ( or maybe that's just me being a control-freak again ). > > Generally agreed, but, for the sake of discussion, we have to consider > the future. There will come a point in time, if FreeBSD is going to > survive with reasonable PR, userbase, generic utility, etc., that it > will have to consider joe enduser running the home box on cablenet. > Joe user is not the professional Berserkeley type, nor the AT&T suits. > But, he is the guy fed up with Gatesware, and has heard a little or > a lot of buzz about this thing *nix (mostly via Penguin buzz) down > at the coffeeshop or the bookstore. Now, if we, as Berserkely types > want to compete in that market, for joe user, then we have to present > ourselves a little better, or perhaps differently, than we would to > the longhair bearded sandal crew that I grew up in. The sandal crew > is gonna get it done, one way or the other. So, that's a null issue. > But, I sense, from reading 500 emails a day, on the list (whew!), > that there is a need for something less sandal crew, and a little more > geard towards garnering our share of the Penguins-to-be. We can't > expect to flesh out our flock by just catching the discontented > Penguins. Although there is merit for using the Penguin school for > our Basic Training, I think we should approach it more directly than > that. Folks, the budding *nix community has gotten bigger than just > the Berserkeley sandal crowd and the geek compsci majors. If we fail > to accommodate the joe endusers, then we are missing the boat in a > big way. > > How do we do that? Good question, but, there are some serious things > that should be considered, based upon what I am gleaning from all the > newsfeeds regarding *nix, as well as our own lists. > > 1. We do need some kind of better training algorithm for the newbie > types that are not the professionals with years of experience, > or the compsci majors. > > 2. We do need some serious on-line training materials, perhaps like > some of the OSU courses, or that kind of thing, presented in a way > that will immediately catch the incoming newbie, and guide them > along. > > 3. We do need some kind of hands-one test drive machine, either via > the website, OR, via something as watered down as a Training Wheels > version of the system that comes up out of a dos shell. Such a > version could be used for evaluation, for training, and for a > one-upsmanship PR coup. > > The above is only IMHO, and we all know everyone is entitled to one > IMHO, just like they are entitled to one arse. But, I do sense > we can't remain the cloistered Berserkeley sandal crew, forever. > > > Is RTFM a prerequisite for new UNIX users? If they want to > > get anything out of me it is, and I'm generally a nice guy. I think > > most people feel the same way. > > RTFM is always important. But, I sense our FM's are needing some > clarity. They are quite good for the professional, and most every > tidbit is there, somewhere, but, sometimes it can be difficult to > find. > > > If you've been monkey-trained to point and click, and you > > are looking for a starting place, then master what you know: learn > > dos inside and out, network functions, telnet, FTP, hosts, lmhosts, > > establish a general knowledge of networking, write some batch files, > > mess around with autoexec.bat and config.sys, learn a programming > > language ( VB does not count ). It will make the transition a lot > > easier. Then pickup a shell account and read a book on dos->unix > > command translations. There are probably more similarities than > > you imagine. > > The problem is that joe enduser does not come from a dos background, > anymore, so that method of training is gone. > > He can't just pick up a shell account anymore, because they are > harder and harder to find with everything becoming webbized. > He needs the account on his own hardware, for even the most basic > training. > > Forget anything dos... dos does not exist anymore. You have to start > WITH *nix directly. Now, the problem is getting joe enduser there, > directly. > > > Will a try-out version of FBSD work...who knows? If it helps > > build better users, then I'm all for it. If it creates a overpopulated > > group of quiters who whine and moan, then I think I could do w/o. > > IMHO, I think it may provide people who think they are interested > > a chance to make a better decision without us all having to listen to > > them and ourselves discussing what we've all heard a million times > > ( as I know this is not new information, so hold the hot stuff ). > > Whiners go elsewhere. Serious joe endusers are most welcome to sign > on board. Perhaps it is time to finalize discussions, and take some > proactive tack (to borrow buzzwords). > > > Last but not least, let's make a quick comparison. Let's say > > you just bought a brand new stick-shift Corvette. Then decided > > that you didn't want to deal with having to learn how to drive a > > car with a manual transmission. Would you complain to the > > manufacturers, that they made the car too difficult to drive? > > Or would you opt to drive another car, that's more suited to your > > driving preferences? Just a thought. > > Interesting aside with the auto bits. If you buy a hot rod, and > you want to race with the bigboyz, you have to go through something > like Bondurant's racing school, or that sort of thing, for hands-on > training, before they even let you out with the 'vette. > > Sadly, with *nix, they shovel you out the door onto the track, and > say crash first, and then ask for help, but first RTFM. Sadly, there > aren't many Formula 1 or CART racing manuals to read. > > I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > (although that method seems to work, too). > > Bob > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="drew.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Drew Wiggins Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="drew.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiggins;John tel;cell:(806) 786-2764 tel;fax:(806) 472-0858 tel;home:(806) 786-2764 tel;work:(806) 762-3739 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.MultiNet-Media.com/ org:MultiNetMedia;Operations version:2.1 email;internet:drew@multinet-media.com title:IT Director adr;quoted-printable:;;1316 27th Street=0D=0A;Lubbock;TX ;79405;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;-23200 fn:Drew Wiggins end:vcard --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:11:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E2814CC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28946; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:11:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:11:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Taylor To: Rick Knebel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xcmail In-Reply-To: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Rick Knebel wrote: > I actually found a tar.gz version of xcmail for FreeBSD. > It will install okay but when I go to run it I get: > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" Did you find a binary or a source tarball? If it's a binary it may be that it's an a.out executable and you may be running 3.0 or >. In that case you'll need to install the X a.out libraries. If you're not running FBSD-3.0 or greater, you appear to have the wrong xpm library installed. Brett ***************************************************** Dr. Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics * Walker 234 (540) 831-5410 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:16:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CA014CC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from assem@twcny.rr.com) Received: from swan ([24.95.175.224]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:08:54 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991031181547.0095d5d0@pop-server.twcny.rr.com> X-Sender: assem@pop-server.twcny.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:17:40 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Assem Salama Subject: BPF Filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone explain to me how to use the BPF_STMT or what it is used for? Also, any links that better explain the filter machine would be greatly appreciated (I already looked at manpages) Thanks, Assem Salama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:44:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BDA14F5E; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iflemmin@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (iflemmin@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA16390; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 -0500 (EST) From: Isaac Flemming To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: NASM programs for freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get the programs to execute. In my most recent attempt I compiled the .asm into aoutb format and tried to link it into a .c program which calls it. The gcc c compiler gave me errors at this point, and I am now at a compleat loss. I have looked around FreeBSD-questions, and hackers archives for several hours but cannot seem to find anything that helps me. Is there any one out there that knows how to get NASM to make a file I can execute, or link into a c program!? Even a simple "hello world" example may help. Thanks a bunch in advance Isaac D. Flemming ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac D. Flemming Senior Computer Science Major Mount Vernon Nazarene College Email: iflemmin@mvnc.edu Phone: (740) 397-6862 x7604 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:46:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.56.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDEE14F70 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwgr@cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com) Received: from cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.56.128]) by adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27825; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:02 -0800 Message-ID: <381CD4BA.2A768955@cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:02 -0800 From: Jeff Gray Reply-To: jwgray@netbox.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjclark@home.com Cc: Jeff Gray , Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: chmod on zip disk References: <199910312234.RAA66468@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist, Thanks, yes msdos fs. Not so familiar with msdos. Just picked up a zip disk from the pile, must have been left over from the soujourn to see what NT looked like. No time like the present to reformat. Jeff > Does the disk have an MS-DOS filesystem? MS-DOS FS does not support > file mode bits or ownership. See mount_msdos(8). > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com -- Jeff Gray NetBox Inc. email, dns, hosting, ftp, ARs, co-location, and a lot more http://www.netbox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:53:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.enger.org (menger.kgv.edu.hk [152.101.128.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A65514F8C for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from menger@dhs.org) Received: (qmail 15471 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Oct 1999 23:53:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 23:53:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:53:20 +0800 (CST) From: X-Sender: menger@home.enger.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Group limit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there any way around this limit? from, Matthew Enger menger@dhs.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:13: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.lets.net (ns1.lets.net [204.244.88.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A27AB14FAA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:12:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stainsby@lets.net) Received: (qmail 525 invoked from network); 1 Nov 1999 16:08:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO D7N057) (204.239.159.51) by ns1.lets.net with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 16:08:15 -0000 Message-ID: <007b01bf23fd$83e23000$339fefcc@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca> From: "Erik Stainsby" To: Subject: reframe of DHCP question Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:10:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I am running a FBSD box as a DHCP'd dial-up workstation, where on this box might I be able to read the expiry time set when the licence was granted? What I wish to do is use this value as a failsafe timeout on the remote ed of a temporary-VPN setup. When the workstation dials in to the ISP, I would like to read my IP and the expirarion time from this machine. I will then submit these values to a daemon on my production server, which will establish my VPN. I know little about DHCP at this point, and less about it's implementation on FBSD. Pointers to manual materials/RFCs etc, appreciated. Erik stainsby@lets.net stainsby@telus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:17:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC61D15226 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:17:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:45 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yo! So, i'm trying to build 'imlib' (to use with gnome components) on my system. to build this, i built GTK, libgif, libtiff, and all the other libs it requires. I put them all in /usr/local/lib, and their associated include files in /usr/local/include. The problem is that 'imlib' refuses to build, claiming that all of the above are not installed. this almost certainly seems to be because it can't find them in /usr/local (it's most likely just looking in /usr). So, the question is: how on earth do i set up the system so that /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib are always set up for their respective purposes? I tried running ldconfig, and ran "ldconfig -R /usr/local/lib". Now when I run ldconfig -r, it lists all the libs in /usr/local/but, imlib still won't build for lack of finding anything. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:18: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA4914E70 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@mail.utexas.edu) Received: from [38.192.209.90] (helo=keichii) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 11i5Af-0003DW-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:18:01 -0500 Message-ID: <012d01bf23fe$6d1dd440$5ad1c026@keichii> From: "¶³¹q¤§­· Michael Wu" To: "Brian Handy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Japanese printing Q Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:17:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Here is what I did 1. i18n tools 2.Install tetex 3. XTT server has to be setup right 4. WNN can be used to type Japanese[kanji too] Basically everything in FreeBSD can be in Japanese [Even KDE has a Japanese port if you do not know] Please look at the /usr/ports/japanese stuff for more info www.jp.freebsd.org has extensive materials that you need [I also use apsfilter] Japanese has the best support in FreeBSD of all languages Simply look at how many ports there are in /japanese Have you tried the Japanese FreeBSD mailing lists? :) P.S. Your question belongs in questions@freebsd.org please do not crosspost to 3 or 4 mailing list =) -- Michael Chin-Yuan Wu ¹]¤M¶Q¤@³Î¡M¹Ú·Q¸u¨}¹Ï¡C Strive for the very best, the outcome is not important. FreeBSD - Service Pack FFFF For NT / Ultimate Patch for Linux -- ----- Original Message ----- ±H¥óªÌ: Brian Handy ¦¬¥óªÌ: ¶Ç°e¤é´Á: 1999¦~10¤ë31¤é PM 05:44 ¥D¦®: Japanese printing Q : Hi all, : : I spend more and more time working with some Japanese colleages, and at : the same time I'm working on learning some Japanese...taking an : intermediate Japanese class this fall, and there's more to come. Along : the way I've been working on the Japanese-capability of my home PC here. : : I've figured out ways to send/receive Japanese-encoded email, and I can : even view Japanese text files. The nut I have not been able to crack, : under any terms, is how to *print* Japanese to my non-Japanese printer. I : have an HP Laserjet 5L, which I believe is a PCL printer, so I use : apsfilter to talk to it. For all non-J sorts of things, this works fine. : : I can't figure out what combination of things has to happen to print Kanji : to this printer. I've wandered aimlessly through the ports tree, even : submitted a PR or two. But I can't print! Can anybody toss a suggestion : my way? : : : Thanks, : : Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81DF14BD4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991101002344.YBFC3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:44 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA44024; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:23:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: J McKitrick Cc: Kevin Street , "Stephen P. Cravey" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs References: From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 19:23:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: J McKitrick's message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: <87wvs383g0.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG J McKitrick writes: > I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? pkg_add is only for packages, but when you `make install' a port it registers itself in /var/db/pkg so you can use pkg_delete or pkg_info. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:31:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBBE151B7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id BAA10953 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:31:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA62399 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:20:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs Date: 1 Nov 1999 01:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <7vimda$1sth$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG J McKitrick wrote: > I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? Mostly. However, an installed port is indistinguishable from an installed package. Both have the same entries under /var/db/pkg and both are removed with pkg_delete(1). -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17: 1: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D1714BC3 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991101010058.YLAX3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:00:58 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA44305; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:00:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Erik Stainsby" Cc: Subject: Re: reframe of DHCP question References: <007b01bf23fd$83e23000$339fefcc@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 20:00:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Erik Stainsby"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:10:31 -0800" Message-ID: <87u2n781px.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Erik Stainsby" writes: > If I am running a FBSD box as a DHCP'd dial-up workstation, where on this > box > might I be able to read the expiry time set when the licence was granted? > > What I wish to do is use this value as a failsafe timeout on the remote ed > of a > temporary-VPN setup. When the workstation dials in to the ISP, I would like > to read my IP and the expirarion time from this machine. I will then > submit > these values to a daemon on my production server, which will establish my > VPN. man dhclient man dhclient-script It's in /var/db/dhclient.leases but better would be to do this when dhclient-script gets run, which happens every time a lease gets renewed. You can hang your local scripts from some hooks in dhclient-script. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17:41:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from locutus.plaidranch.org (locutus.plaidranch.org [209.151.69.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EC214C01 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slayer@locutus.plaidranch.org) Received: from localhost (slayer@localhost) by locutus.plaidranch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26212 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:19 -0700 (MST) From: Graey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: moving wd1(freebsd) to wd0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My system has(had) two harddrives, wd0 with win95 and wd1 with freebsd. I want to take the win drive out and only have freebsd in. I installed a boot manager to the freebsd drive. I editted fstab and changed all /dev/wd1 to /dev/wd0. I removed the windows drive and set the jumper on the freebsd drive to master. It boots fine, but I get /dev/wd0 no such device when it goes to load up wd0. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Please reply to me directly. Thanks in advance. - Graey -------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.plaidranch.org/~slayer ICQ# 6247141 slayer@plaidranch.org www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/ www.newbiesguide.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.inteliport.net (ns1.inteliport.net [208.27.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F66514FE7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gameboy@inteliport.com) Received: from inteliport.com (hip83.inteliport.net [208.7.213.83]) by ns1.inteliport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00481 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:52:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <381CE47D.5EE592EB@inteliport.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:53:18 -0400 From: Brian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pci modems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG how can i get freebie to recognize and use my pci modem that i just bought? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:16:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECB314BD7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1066.bossig.com [208.26.241.66]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16821; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <381CF7F1.FE8245C7@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:17 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pci modems References: <381CE47D.5EE592EB@inteliport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian wrote: > > how can i get freebie to recognize and use my pci modem that i just > bought? You probably can't. Most PCI modems are WinModems and are recognized by only the Windows operating systems. Check out your model at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. This is really a Linux list but they have the same problem with Winmodems that we do. If it is a Winmodem, take it back and get a real modem that is on Clark's list. You might also consider an external. Externals cost $20 more but if one gets wedged, you can cycle power on it a lot better than having to turn the pc off and back on. Alway check your hardware out for acceptability to an OS before you purchase something. Kent > > thanks > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:19:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from green.myip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A9A14CC5; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=green) by green.myip.org with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11i74F-0007AT-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:19:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman X-Sender: green@green.myip.org To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE, we do not use a.out as the system executable format. You have two choices: (1) If you have to have it a.out for some reason, put OBJFORMAT=aout in your environment. (2) You should probably be just using "elf" as the -f argument for nasm instead. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! / green@FreeBSD.org `------------------------------' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles526.castles.com [208.214.165.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081B152BB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15047; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911010216.SAA15047@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:12 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This probably doesn't belong on -hackers at all. > I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the > Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I > do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work > the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. Then you should probably get a DOS box, or install DOS in a dual-boot situation. > I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it > and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in > class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get > the programs to execute. Execute, or behave as expected? You haven't given any sort of detail here, so it's hard to guess, but I'd suspect that one of your problems is or will be that you will try to do I/O to the user, and the DOS examples you've been given won't work under FreeBSD. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:29: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33243156D1; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11i5iW-00046j-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:53:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:52:59 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Mike Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID IV (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc550807c - timeout. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Mike wrote: > Hi all! > > It seems once awhile the FreeBSD-3.3-Release system hangs with the > following message: > > /kernel: (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc550807c - timeout. > /kernel: (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc5508744 - timeout. You probably want to put the "DPT_VERIFY_HINTR" and "DPT_LOST_IRQ" options into your kernel config file. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:33:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27B91509F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from papalia@UDel.Edu) Received: from morgaine (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by copland.udel.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA15748; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:33:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19991031213125.009407e0@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:33:50 -0500 To: Dan Busarow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Subject: Re: Reverse DNS lookup In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> merlin# nslookup 63.224.53.3 >> Server: copland.udel.edu >> Address: 128.175.xx.xx >> *** copland.udel.edu can't find 63.224.53.3: Non-existent host/domain > >That's cause there is no reverse for that IP. It's from a /25 subnet >and US West probably doesn't delegate less than a /24 for in-addr.arpa Could you do me a favor and explain all that? I have no idea what /25 subnet and in-addr.arpa actually mean :) And if that's the case (above) then that might be the problem on all my reverse lookups that go bad. In essence all the problems I'm having are with people using their desktops at work who ssh into my box. But when I try out nslookup on servers from, for example, my old ISP, it works fine both ways. Thanks again!!! --John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:37:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logisticsoftware.co.nz (logisticsoftware.co.nz [202.37.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1453414CC4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by logisticsoftware.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26691; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:37:24 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:37:24 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > The problem is that 'imlib' refuses to build, claiming that all > of the above are not installed. this almost certainly seems to be > because it can't find them in /usr/local (it's most likely just looking > in /usr). > > So, the question is: how on earth do i set up the system so that > /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib are always set up for their > respective purposes? You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no problems. Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Clothes do make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:39: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.det.ameritech.net (mpdr0.detroit.mi.ameritech.net [206.141.239.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2E014CC4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asyndicate@ameritech.net) Received: from eclipse.agitated.net ([206.141.209.24]) by mailhost.det.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <19991101023856.POES5474.mailhost.det.ameritech.net@eclipse.agitated.net> for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:38:56 -0500 From: Andrew Forgue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: WINS Client. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:37:01 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99103121385000.01151@eclipse.agitated.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I will soon be attending a school that uses wins servers for netbois name resolution. And i am wondering Does fBSD have support for this or will samba do it for me.? Thanx. Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:42:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00514ECA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:44:45 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054931@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: 'Jonathan Chen' , Marc Wandschneider Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: your mail Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:44:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz] > Sent: Sun, October 31, 1999 6:37 PM > To: Marc Wandschneider > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: your mail > > You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make > all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no > problems. Method of last resort. I'm trying to get back into the swing of building things and coding again. it's been a while since i've done any UN*X coding ... marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:45:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116815032 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:08:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:08:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: menger@dhs.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > Hello, > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > any way around this limit? This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with NFS though. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:46:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC6715032 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mda@discerning.com) Received: from mdaxke (cm-24-142-61-115.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.115]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id SAA15433 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004301bf2413$4d6a64a0$0200a8c0@mdaxke> From: "Mark D. Anderson" To: Subject: how to replicate a kernel config and binaries across heterogenous hw? Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:46:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this must be a FAQ, but i can't find it. i suppose that is what this list is for.... supposing i have chosen my desired kernel build parameters, concerning whether i want quota enabled, promiscuous ethernet, blah, blah, as well as other options. i'd now like to use those decisions on all freebsd machines i manage -- or at least, the ones with like purpose (such as all web server or all db servers or all firewall machines). i'd also like to just sync binaries to other machines -- i'm ok if this means building in support for all devices, and not have to make world on each one. some machines have multiple scsi disks, some have just one IDE disk, etc. of course, there is still some per-host config that has to be preserved (devices, hostname, etc.). when i decide to fetch new kernel sources, i'd like to just build it once and install multiple places. i don't need to hear about dd and rsync and scp and other replication mechanisms. i can do that. i'm worried about traps in what might happen if i replicate the wrong thing: about freebsd-specific issues, such as files i need to worry about, what config decisions are really determined at kernel compile time and not runtime, and other recipes from people who have done this. on a related note, for certain production machines, i'd like to be able to minimize as much as possible the downtime due to a kernel upgrade. are there general tips on that? note that i run my firewall machine with an init security level that effectively forbids writes. -mda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:51:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37B614DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13665; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:22 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'Jonathan Chen'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054931@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz] > > Sent: Sun, October 31, 1999 6:37 PM > > To: Marc Wandschneider > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: your mail > > > > You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make > > all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no > > problems. > > Method of last resort. I'm trying to get back into the swing of > building things and coding again. it's been a while since i've done any > UN*X coding ... Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask questions on how to build it when: a) you can just have easily done it out of ports b) you could have looked at how the ports system 'fixes' the problem you're having. c) someone worked hard on porting it for you. Yes, I know rarely a port can install in such a way that isn't optimal for you, but then that can easily be solved by using send-pr to ask the port maintainer to assist you. If you want to work on porting applications then work on something that _isn't_ ported and submit it as a port, people will be glad to assist you on the way. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:53: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8FA14DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:53:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13762; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:16:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:16:09 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Graey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving wd1(freebsd) to wd0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Graey wrote: > > My system has(had) two harddrives, wd0 with win95 and wd1 with freebsd. I > want to take the win drive out and only have freebsd in. I installed a > boot manager to the freebsd drive. I editted fstab and changed all > /dev/wd1 to /dev/wd0. I removed the windows drive and set the jumper on > the freebsd drive to master. It boots fine, but I get /dev/wd0 no such > device when it goes to load up wd0. What did I do wrong and how can I fix > it? You probably don't have the required devices in /dev, you need to somehow mount your root device (possibly by temporarily moving the drive back to wd1) and do this: cd /dev ; sh MAKEDEV wd0s1e -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C0114DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:56:35 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054933@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: 'Alfred Perlstein' , Marc Wandschneider Cc: 'Jonathan Chen' , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:56:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@wintelcom.net] > Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail > > > Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask > questions > on how to build it when: Because, eventually, i'm going to put a library in /usr/local/lib that's going to cause me to run into this problem again. The question asked as a general one: where do i tell the system about libs and headers in /usr/local/XXX. i can't believe that this is that obscure that only build masters would know about such things ... marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:58:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F6914FFD for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13884; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'Jonathan Chen'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054933@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@wintelcom.net] > > Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail > > > > > > Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask > > questions > > on how to build it when: > > Because, eventually, i'm going to put a library in > /usr/local/lib that's going to cause me to run into this problem again. > The question asked as a general one: where do i tell the system about > libs and headers in /usr/local/XXX. > > i can't believe that this is that obscure that only build > masters would know about such things ... export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path1:/path2 and for C includes: export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/path1:/path2 btw, if the port can do it, so can you, just watch/trace what the port does to fix the problem. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E52E14E8B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Received: from db.wireless.net (db.wireless.net [209.75.70.101]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA10430 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24044 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Message-ID: <381D033B.127B2AE5@wireless.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:04:27 -0800 From: Devin Butterfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kdevelop on FreeBSD?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am just wondering if anyone has been able to successfully compile and run Kdevelop on FreeBSD 3.2 or greater. I am running 3.3 and have not had any luck compiling Kdevelop 1.0beta4. Before I go posting the ugly output from the compiler, I was wondering if anyone has even been successful at compiling Kdevelop? Is there any hope or is Kdevelop too "linuxcentric"? Thanks in advance! -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19: 7:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pop.idx.com.au (pop.idx.com.au [203.14.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9BE14E8B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@idx.com.au) Received: from psych (idxwc07-26.idx.com.au [203.166.2.26]) by pop.idx.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26572; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:18:47 +1100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991101140749.006917a0@pop.idx.com.au> X-Sender: danny@pop.idx.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:07:54 +1100 To: Ken Wills From: Danny Subject: RE: GNOME installation problem --help Cc: "Wills, Ken" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thank you ill try that to see if it works :) At 11:55 29/10/99 -0500, Ken Wills wrote: >On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Danny wrote: > >> >> I should goto /freebsd/ports/packages/gnome/ -- get it on mfreebsd >> Without the need to copy all the distfiles ? >> > >copy the files you have into /usr/ports/distfiles and try installing. >Depending when you last updated you ports, and what files you have, you'll >have some measure of success. Fetch the files you don't have (versions are >very important) and repeat. > >> >> >> >> Runniing Freebsd 227 >> >> Want to install GNOME >> >> Behind a firewall so port 21 is not available >> >> Have an attachment with the listing on files >> >> >> >> Question:- >> >> >> >> Which file should I compile and what commands do I type in ?? >> >> > >Ken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19:21:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f235.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9596815129 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 43080 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 1999 03:21:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19991101032122.43079.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.166.2.26 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [203.166.2.26] From: "danny h" To: bunny@super.net.pk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Administration of Free BSD Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:21:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To kill the ftp process type "kill -9 " If you want to learn about Freebsd Administration Buy Greg Leheny's Complete Freebsd from cdrom.com or amazon.com Subscribe to the Freebsd mailing list Work on some project like setting up X windows Doing the above things is the only way to learn :) >From: "bunny" >To: >Subject: Administration of Free BSD >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:28:57 +0500 > >Sir, >i am new to this software and would like some help regarding the >Administration of the FreeBSD. My questions are as follows: > >Q1: How do you stop the ftp process? >Q2: How to manage the FreeBSD server ? > >Please explain. > >Thanks & Regards, > >Bakhtiar Ghazanfar > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0D152FE; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:25:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:25:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Isaac Flemming wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the > Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I > do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work > the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. > > I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it > and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in > class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get > the programs to execute. In my most recent attempt I compiled the .asm > into aoutb format and tried to link it into a .c program which calls it. > The gcc c compiler gave me errors at this point, and I am now at a > compleat loss. I have looked around FreeBSD-questions, and hackers > archives for several hours but cannot seem to find anything that helps me. > Is there any one out there that knows how to get NASM to make a file I can > execute, or link into a c program!? Even a simple "hello world" example > may help. You don't state what FreeBSD version you're running, but there was a switch to ELF loading format, so it's entirely possible you could get it to work because of incorrect format. Regardless, you committed the cardinal sin of giving us no data, not your failed program, not your error messages, not the FreeBSD version. You could have only hit about 3,000 possible ways to do things wrong, but you're asking us to guess. OK, I'll use the one piece of data you *did* give; you said you wrote your program for DOS. Are you aware that FreeBSD accesses system services in an entirely different way than you do under DOS? No BIOS interrupts, no DOS interrupts, things don't work that way. Of, course, maybe you did know that, but we can't tell, you didn't supply the data ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20: 8:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu [129.79.137.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1004151CB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msquires@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu) Received: (from msquires@localhost) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA49847; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:11:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from msquires) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <199911010411.XAA49847@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap In-Reply-To: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> from nelson huang at "Nov 1, 1999 3:33:58 am" To: chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com (nelson huang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:11:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > > but it always responses with the message > > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Check out the following line in rc.conf. It may say something like: network_interfaces="fxp0 auto" it should say network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" (i.e., replace auto with lo0" otherwise the localhost interface is not properly configured. I did not see this in the ERRATA.TXT the last time I looked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA79A14BD3 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@freenet.co.uk) Received: from freenet.co.uk (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with ESMTP id 6E3EA7B036; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:15:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <381D13FE.D3D3F636@freenet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:15:58 +0000 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Mutsaers Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: e2fsck for FreeBSD? References: <87wvs999ez.fsf@muon.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Mutsaers wrote: > > I run FreeBSD with some Linux ext2fs filesystems mounted. Sometimes > FreeBSD crashes (really, but I'm running current so what do you expect :). > > Afterwards, all filesystems are dirty and need to be checked. The > ext2fs filesystems however aren't checked (unless I would boot into > Linux), thus they can no longer be mounted (read/write). > > It would be nice to be able to clean the ext2fs filesystems in > FreeBSD. Is there a e2fsck for FreeBSD? I tried to run the Linux one > under Linux emulation, but it failed miserably. There is one in OpenBSD (called fsck_ext2fs), which should be possible to port over. If you decide to have a go at it, you might as well bring in their fsck_msdos. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:22:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu [129.79.137.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C7E150C4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msquires@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu) Received: (from msquires@localhost) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA49985; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from msquires) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <199911010425.XAA49985@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> Subject: samba and SMP To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Cc: samba@samba.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've now tried 2.0.6pre2 with a SuperMicro P6DNF dual PPro as well as the Everex StepDP/Pro dual PPro MB; same result, large (more than 1 MB) file copies usually crash with only a message about oplock errors in the logfile. Running a single CPU kernel works fine (pre2 seems much faster, but I haven't done any testing). 2.0.5a does the same. NFS and mars_nwe with the same hardware and SMP kernel work fine, even with very large files (GB) and high throughput (3MB/sec sustained). There are no hardware errors reported at any time; memory passes AMIDiag's pattern testing without a peep. The SM used completely different hardware and a fresh installation, by the way. Client is an NT4 SP5 workstation; have tried both server and domain authentication. I have many KB of mptable/kernel config files/log files, but none of it seems very helpful. I suspect that a sniffer will be required to do a packet trace. Any suggestions? Mike Squires To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bekool.com (ns2.netquick.net [216.48.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F3314CAA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trouble@hackfurby.com) Received: from angelsguardian.netquick.net ([199.72.47.239] helo=hackfurby.com ident=root) by bekool.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11i9m4-0007jQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:35 -0500 From: TrouBle Reply-To: trouble@hackfurby.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; OpenBSD 2.6 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay real simple.... ive had enough, i have a cash reward of a decent sum to the first perl programmer who can re-write a script, to work with the BSd style master.passwd file and write it cortrectly, this is a web based cgi written in perl, orginially for linux shadow passwds. i can give you access to the box, the script and the first person who can provide a working solution gets the dough... oh... yeah the dough, well its a few hundred dollars offered by my employer. let me know who wants a crack at it ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:15:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A35214C59 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA86930; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:15:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:15:17 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: TrouBle Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem Message-ID: <19991031231517.A86862@dan.emsphone.com> References: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com>; from trouble@hackfurby.com on Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 06:45:35PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Oct 31), TrouBle said: > Okay real simple.... ive had enough, i have a cash reward of a decent > sum to the first perl programmer who can re-write a script, to work > with the BSd style master.passwd file and write it cortrectly, this > is a web based cgi written in perl, orginially for linux shadow > passwds. i can give you access to the box, the script and the first > person who can provide a working solution gets the dough... oh... > yeah the dough, well its a few hundred dollars offered by my > employer. let me know who wants a crack at it ! Why are you manually modifying master.passwd in the first place? Does the 'pw' command not do what you want? User programs really shouldn't mess with the passwd file at all. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:15:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.enger.org (menger.kgv.edu.hk [152.101.128.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D37D014FF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from menger@dhs.org) Received: (qmail 16511 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Nov 1999 05:15:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 05:15:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:15:21 +0800 (CST) From: X-Sender: menger@home.enger.org To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, According to config, there is no such option as NGROUPS_MAX. Are you sure that I am ment to set this inside my kernel config file? from, Matthew Enger menger@dhs.org On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > > > Hello, > > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > > any way around this limit? > > This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX > in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with > NFS though. > > -Alfred > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3368014E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian.e@Ihug.co.nz) Received: from Ihug.co.nz (p374.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.137.119]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA19649 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:18:22 +1300 Message-ID: <381D23CC.AAC36A3F@Ihug.co.nz> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 18:23:24 +1300 From: "brian.e" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Screenshot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I attend a polytechnic in New Zealand doing computer studies and I have a research project to compile. However the study I am doing is of comparisons between operating systems and nowhere can I find a screenshot of FreeBSD. If you could please inform me where I could find one as I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:23:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net (smtp1.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93F414E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 01031149 ([209.197.154.108]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FKI70T00.CF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:24:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bf2431$d68808a0$6c9ac5d1@01031149> From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> To: Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a 52yr old newbie --- worse I don't know jack-shit about FreeBSD or any *nix for that matter. So please take my following observations in that context. It is NOT my intention to disparage anyone. I have never been an IT professional but did start dinking with computers in the days of CPM and the Apple 2E. So I have done my fair share of tinkering. When GUI Macs appeared and then Windoze (say around 1986?) I made the statement then to a friend of mine that Unix ought to get the lead out, come out of the inner sanctum and *show* itself for what it can be for the masses. Of course hardware appropriate for Unix was prohibitive for the masses. Now it isn't, and IMHO *nix (except for the Penguin) in still cloistered in it's inner sanctum. I have wanted to learn Unix all this time. But guys, to launch myself in this new caper, "I simply want to know the time, NOT how to make a watch" -- if you get my meaning. Personally, being a tinkerer, I'll definitely want to know "how to make that watch" -- but later, when I'm comfortable "telling time". When you guys first started driving cars, where you all in a position to set the valve timing, the ignition timing, etc. Can you guys NOW overhaul your fuel injectors and tune your high-tech engines. Do you want to know how? Do you care? I'm amazed at the brain-power, and level of knowledge and competence on this list. I also read the PHP language list, and am equally amazed at the level of expertise of *those* C programmers, especially Rasmus Lerdorf -- PHP's creator. I can't for the life of me believe that you folks can't present FreeBSD to the world in a simple, no-brainer version to get us wnnabee dummies in the drivers seat. You know what, once were *in* that drivers seat and marvelling and drueling at FBSD's capabilities, you have then gone a long way into making the next generation of FBSD gurus. However, if all we newbies can do is lurch forward like someone learning to drive a standard transmission, and never get moving or are so limited by the complexities, then FBSD *may* remain a novelty only to be enjoyed by a few gifted folks. I'm not suggesting to compromise the open-endedness of *nix, but simply to put together a useful, single-user, beginner's package that is a no-brainer to get going. Once they're behind the FBSD wheel, you've got them for life. *Then* we can start doing our homework for the more complicated network stuff etc. Unfortunately, it's ALL a question of marketing and PR. The proof is staring us all in the face --- a marginal product (windoze vis-a-vis FBSD) has made it huge worlwide. Linux is making huge headway. What do these two products have in common -- marketing & PR *and* ease of installation (although Linux still has a ways to go, I think). FBSD will *never* evangelise and convert the masses unless it does likewise -- but better. Here's a golden opportunity to take the wind out of both Windoze and Linux's sails. I just can't accept that people as *sharp* as you can't do it!! Or maybe it's that you don't want to.....In the meantime, I'll continue lurking, reading and learning FBSD. with respect.....duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:47:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9169E14E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18160; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:10:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: menger@dhs.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > Hello, > According to config, there is no such option as NGROUPS_MAX. Are > you sure that I am ment to set this inside my kernel config file? no, i'm lying to you just to malicious... Dan Nelson actually has a better way: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1284824+1287592+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-questions/19980517.freebsd-questions -Alfred > > from, > Matthew Enger > menger@dhs.org > > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > > > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > > > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > > > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > > > any way around this limit? > > > > This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX > > in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with > > NFS though. > > > > -Alfred > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7B814EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29332; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04034; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26835; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Ian J Greely Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991101070439.A26816@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 01:40:22PM +0000, Ian J Greely wrote: > Is the FreeBSD version crippled then? > > The standard *doze* export version of Netscape actually has full 128 > bit encryption but only with certain keys. Banks in foreign (to the > US) countries can buy certificates which will turn on this 128bit > encryption for *their* transactions with the customer. I don't think my bank will do this because of me using FreebSD, when the rest is using M$ with Netscape that HAS got 128-bit encryption. > > So far as I was aware only Banks could get these keys. > > As I recall there was a hack for the Doze code that would turn on the > 128 bit encryption for ALL communications. > > regards, > Ian > > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > >Gunnar, > > > >Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit > >security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well > >as many other platforms. > > > >Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended on > >many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). > > > > > >Eric Wayte, DBA > >Univ. of Central Florida > >ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu > > > >On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > >> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 > >> From: Gunnar Flygt > >> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt > >> To: FreeBSD Questions > >> Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe > >> > >> Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > >> strong encryption, in Europe? > >> > >> My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't > >> want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost > >> every need for them elsewhere. > >> > >> -- > >> __o > >> regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > >> email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22: 5:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F5714EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29341; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04041; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26855; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991101070516.B26816@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:05:25PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > In article <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se>, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > > strong encryption, in Europe? > > cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator && make -DUSE_128BIT install clean Thanks! > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22:11:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns0.sitesnow.com (ns0.sitesnow.com [216.130.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AE214EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:11:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gskouby@ns0.sitesnow.com) Received: from gskouby (helo=localhost) by ns0.sitesnow.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11iAgZ-000Kqp-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:11:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:11:19 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Skouby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vinum RAID-5 again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I got this sample RAID-5 config off of lemis.com/vinum and it seems over simplified to the point where I don't think I understand it. If at any time in this message you think I need to go back and RTFM please stop reading and let me know that. This is the sample config for RAID-5 that I am referring to: drive e device /dev/da6h volume raid5 plex org raid5 512k sd length 128m drive a sd length 128m drive b sd length 128m drive c sd length 128m drive d sd length 128m drive e I have a couple of questions about this. Is this config only slicing up one drive? That is what I gather from the config but the theory behind RAID-5 is that you need at least 3 for there to be a point in using RAID-5. So one of my many questions is that where do the drive a, drive b, drive c, drive d, and drive e 's come from? Are there seperated statements for those devices like there is for the drive e? Something such as drive a devide /dev/da0h? I guess I am just confused. Let me hit you up with the scenario that I am trying to use RAID-5 in. I have 4 external seagate drives of 23gigs each. I want to use those 4 drives in a RAID-5 array. They are da0 through da3. The drive where the OS sits is da4. I am wondering what I need to do to get RAID-5 running across those four drives. Thanks for all of your help. I appreciated it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22:13:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vitebsky.com (vhi.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEDA14EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) Received: from vadim (vadim [192.168.1.3]) by vitebsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA11695 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:20:37 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) From: "Vadim Vitebsky" To: "FreeBSD TechSupport" Subject: QUESTION about /VAR/RUN/UTMP Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:29:44 +0500 Message-ID: <01be62ec$1ccdb600$0301a8c0@vadim.vhi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good day! I have FreeBSD 3.1-Release installed. This is great system. But I have one problem. Not far, when I tried WHO command system write to me: who: /var/run/utmp - device not configured. Also, when system boots up I can see this message: rm /var/run/utmp - utmp: Operation not permitted. Also I cannot use TALK command, because error message being assigned. My file /var/log/messages are full of this strings: Nov 1 06:18:53 vhi comsat[11016]: open: /var/run/utmp: Permission denied. Nov 1 06:18:53 vhi inetd [167]: /usr/libexec/comsat[11016]: Exit status 0x100. I tried to use FSCK, but fsck write that all ok! I cannot delete this file manually, using rm command or using MC-4.5.1, because system writes: "/var/run/utmp" - Cannot delete. Operation not permitted (1). What happened with my system? And what I can do? Thank you very much and sorry for my bad English. Vadim vadim@vitebsky.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 23:36:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCF714E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20613; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:00:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Skouby Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum RAID-5 again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Greg Skouby wrote: > Hello, > I got this sample RAID-5 config off of lemis.com/vinum and it > seems over simplified to the point where I don't think I understand it. If > at any time in this message you think I need to go back and RTFM please > stop reading and let me know that. This is the sample config for RAID-5 > that I am referring to: > > drive e device /dev/da6h > volume raid5 > plex org raid5 512k > sd length 128m drive a > sd length 128m drive b > sd length 128m drive c > sd length 128m drive d > sd length 128m drive e > > > I have a couple of questions about this. Is this config only slicing up > one drive? That is what I gather from the config but the theory behind > RAID-5 is that you need at least 3 for there to be a point in using > RAID-5. So one of my many questions is that where do the drive a, drive b, > drive c, drive d, and drive e 's come from? Are there seperated > statements for those devices like there is for the drive e? Something such > as drive a devide /dev/da0h? I think there is an implied drive a device /dev/da2h drive b device /dev/da3h drive c device /dev/da4h drive d device /dev/da5h before the "drive e device /dev/da6h" line. it should be noted that some of the shortcuts used in the vinum manpage that aren't noted as being shortcuts can make things confusing for the first time user. the "drive" commands just provide a meaningful alias to /dev/ entries. -Alfred > I guess I am just confused. Let me hit you up with the scenario that I am > trying to use RAID-5 in. I have 4 external seagate drives of 23gigs each. > I want to use those 4 drives in a RAID-5 array. They are da0 through da3. > The drive where the OS sits is da4. I am wondering what I need to do to > get RAID-5 running across those four drives. Thanks for all of your help. > I appreciated it. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 23:38:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FA51513A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20720; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:01:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:01:45 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Vadim Vitebsky Cc: FreeBSD TechSupport Subject: Re: QUESTION about /VAR/RUN/UTMP In-Reply-To: <01be62ec$1ccdb600$0301a8c0@vadim.vhi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Vadim Vitebsky wrote: > Good day! > > I have FreeBSD 3.1-Release installed. This is great system. But I have one > problem. > > Not far, when I tried WHO command system write to me: > > who: /var/run/utmp - device not configured. > > Also, when system boots up I can see this message: > > rm /var/run/utmp - utmp: Operation not permitted. > > Also I cannot use TALK command, because error message being assigned. > > My file /var/log/messages are full of this strings: > > Nov 1 06:18:53 vhi comsat[11016]: open: /var/run/utmp: Permission denied. > Nov 1 06:18:53 vhi inetd [167]: /usr/libexec/comsat[11016]: Exit status > 0x100. > > I tried to use FSCK, but fsck write that all ok! > I cannot delete this file manually, using rm command or using MC-4.5.1, > because system writes: "/var/run/utmp" - Cannot delete. Operation not > permitted (1). > > > What happened with my system? And what I can do? What is your output for: ls -lo /var/run/utmp and ls -ldo /var/run thanks, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 23:57:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vitebsky.com (vhi.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B65614EAA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) Received: from vadim (vadim [192.168.1.3]) by vitebsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA12027 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:06:31 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) From: "Vadim Vitebsky" To: "FreeBSD TechSupport" Subject: /var/run/utmp Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:15:38 +0500 Message-ID: <01be62fa$e7b075c0$0301a8c0@vadim.vhi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >What is your output for: > >ls -lo /var/run/utmp >and >ls -ldo /var/run > >thanks, >-Alfred Output for ls -lo /var/run/utmp: cr- - - -x-wT 1 789129520 1631723562 uchg, arch, schg, sunlnk 32, 0x7830002b Feb 21 2012 /var/run/utmp Output for ls -ldo /var/run: drwxr - xr - x 2 root wheel - 512 Nov 1 02:02 /var/run Thank you very much, Alfred. Waiting for your answer... Vadim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:14:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727B414A11 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from congress@carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from BVV (dialup1-30.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.74.30]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA04723 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:17:05 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <006401bf2438$a4f74420$02000f0a@BVV.ukrinfo.kiev.ua> From: "Sell&Buy" To: Subject: About routing Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:13:46 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF2451.C8A87F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF2451.C8A87F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I write in rc.conf some line's -=20 ### Network routing options: ### defaultrouter=3D"212.42.68.2" # Set to default gateway (or NO). static_routes=3D"" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). gateway_enable=3D"YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. router_enable=3D"YES" # Set to YES to enable a routing daemon. router=3D"routed" # Name of routing daemon to use if enabled. router_flags=3D"-q" # Flags for routing daemon. But routed return - unable to connect to remote host No route to host Where else than in rc.conf are rules about routing? ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF2451.C8A87F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I write in = rc.conf some line's=20 -
### Network = routing options:=20 ###
defaultrouter=3D"212.42.68.2"  # Set to default = gateway (or=20 NO).
static_routes=3D""  # Set to static route list = (or leave=20 empty).
gateway_enable=3D"YES"  # Set to YES if this = host will=20 be a gateway.
router_enable=3D"YES"  # Set to YES to = enable a=20 routing daemon.
router=3D"routed"   # Name of = routing=20 daemon to use if enabled.
router_flags=3D"-q"  # Flags = for=20 routing daemon.
But routed return  - unable to connect to remote = host
No route to = host
Where else than = in rc.conf are=20 rules about routing?
 
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BF2451.C8A87F60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:14:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C070314A0E for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcd@tpg.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24836; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:14:07 +1100 Received: from adl-56k-184.tpgi.com.au(203.12.165.184), claiming to be "marcdods" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdOq5CWt; Mon Nov 1 19:13:59 1999 Message-ID: <017a01bf2440$a7bf4420$b8a50ccb@marcdods> Reply-To: "Marc Dodsworth" From: "Marc Dodsworth" To: "Mike Squires" , Cc: Subject: Re: samba and SMP Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:41:06 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It will be painful but check the MS website for details on OPlock. There are some settings in the NT registry that handle the OPlock so you might find something of use there (I know there is details on oplock on M$ cos it came up in a situation I was involved with :-) Marc -----Original Message----- From: Mike Squires To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: samba@samba.org Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:53 PM Subject: samba and SMP >I've now tried 2.0.6pre2 with a SuperMicro P6DNF dual PPro as well as >the Everex StepDP/Pro dual PPro MB; same result, >large (more than 1 MB) file copies usually crash with only a message about >oplock errors in the logfile. Running a single CPU kernel works fine >(pre2 seems much faster, but I haven't done any testing). > >2.0.5a does the same. > >NFS and mars_nwe with the same hardware and SMP kernel work fine, even with >very large files (GB) and high throughput (3MB/sec sustained). There are >no hardware errors reported at any time; memory passes AMIDiag's pattern >testing without a peep. The SM used completely different hardware and a >fresh installation, by the way. > >Client is an NT4 SP5 workstation; have tried both server and domain authentication. > >I have many KB of mptable/kernel config files/log files, but none of it seems >very helpful. I suspect that a sniffer will be required to do a packet trace. > >Any suggestions? > >Mike Squires > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:18:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from w3.bluegrass.net (w3.bluegrass.net [205.198.88.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CB914CAE for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmueller@bluegrass.net) Received: from bluegrass.net (dial21.pm3.bluegrass.net [208.230.91.21]) by w3.bluegrass.net (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23345 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:18:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:18:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911010818.DAA23345@w3.bluegrass.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: tmueller@bluegrass.net Subject: Install on SCSI SyJet? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This actually involves two questions. Can I install FreeBSD on an external SCSI SyJet (1429 MB)? Fixed disks are EIDE, two hard drives totaling about 1600 MB and not enough space to install FreeBSD. I already have DOS, OS/2 Warp 4 and Linux, and need the SyJet, and Zip 250 on the same SCSI chain, for additional space. With Linux I believe it is possible to boot from diskette and mount root=/dev/sda2 ncr5380=0x358,254,-1 or something like that. Second question is, does the new FreeBSD SCSI system support my Trantor T130B SCSI adapter? Is this an e-mailing list that one would subscribe to, or does the response go directly to the person asking the question? Thomas Mueller tmueller@bluegrass.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:18:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0A614CAE for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:18:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DiGiTaLEGE@aol.com) Received: from DiGiTaLEGE@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nXPIQ2HPm_ (3868) for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:16:01 -0500 (EST) From: DiGiTaLEGE@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2793867c.254ea641@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:16:01 EST Subject: ScreenShots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could you please post some screen shots of FreeBSD and alert me when you put them up. I want FreeBSD but I have no idea what it looks like. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:27:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F86214A2C for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:27:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21800; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:51:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: DiGiTaLEGE@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ScreenShots In-Reply-To: <0.2793867c.254ea641@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 DiGiTaLEGE@aol.com wrote: > Could you please post some screen shots of FreeBSD and alert me when you > put them up. I want FreeBSD but I have no idea what it looks like. take a look at themes.org, freebsd can look like just about any of those screen shots if configured as such. (we can run the same window managers as linux) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:42:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.s2m.net (ns2.s2m.net [193.218.220.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A7A14A2C for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grundmann@core.activezone.org) Received: from mail2.s2m.net ([193.218.217.164]) by mail3.s2m.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11iD2z-0004KB-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:42:37 +0100 Received: by mail2.s2m.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: <6B2FB0B60467D311BE2000A0C941F9A116A0@mail2.s2m.net> From: Markus Grundmann To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: How can i find it? Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:41:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This link has an error! IP Bandwith: ipltd - IP traffic bandwidth shaping/limiting daemon. You can find it in Markus Grundmann Germany. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 0:52: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8162614C1C for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:51:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04986; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:51:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10241; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:51:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29849; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:51:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:51:37 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991101095137.A27039@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:05:25PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > In article <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se>, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > > strong encryption, in Europe? > > cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator && make -DUSE_128BIT install clean Actually it didn't work with the netscape47 version I had to use 4.61, but since that works I'm totally satisfied. But the Fortify part of the installation didn't find md5 files for netscape so it quit! -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 1:18:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.toplink.net (mail.toplink.net [195.2.171.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D4714D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@toplink.net) Received: from babylon.toplink.net (babylon.toplink.net [195.2.171.90]) by mail.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20221; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:18:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ck@localhost) by babylon.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA38712; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:18:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:18:16 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Kratzer To: TrouBle Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem In-Reply-To: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: de.toplink X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% X-Jihad: Will hunt down all cases of Spam and Net abuse. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, TrouBle wrote: > Okay real simple.... ive had enough, i have a cash reward of a decent > sum to the first perl programmer who can re-write a script, to work with > the BSd style master.passwd file and write it cortrectly, this is a web > based cgi written in perl, orginially for linux shadow passwds. i can > give you access to the box, the script and the first person who can > provide a working solution gets the dough... oh... yeah the dough, well > its a few hundred dollars offered by my employer. let me know who wants > a crack at it ! no big deal. We have awk or perl scripts creating master.passwd files on freebsd since we started with FreeBSD 2.0. We learned by reading the vipw source code. You need to do following 1. write master.passwd.tmp or other name somewhere in same file system as /etc lives in. Best is /etc/master.passwd.tmp 2. run pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd.tmp This installs the new master.passwd and creates/updates following files - passwd plaintext stripped version of master.passwd in classic unix format without crypted passwords - spwd.db Binary version of master.passwd - pwd.db Binary version of passwd All the information for the other files is in master.passwd Thats it. But beware. You can screw up things really bad. Be sure to have a root window open when you debug your script. Backups of master.passwd are made on a daily basis to /var/backup in case you forgot to backup your script. With above information you should be able to port your linux scripts just fine yourself and cash your bosses reward ;-) Greetings Christian -- TopLink Internet Services GmbH ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa Christian Kratzer http://www.toplink.net/ Phone: +49 7032 2701-0 Fax: +49 7032 2701-19 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 1:21:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.toplink.net (mail.toplink.net [195.2.171.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AFD14D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@toplink.net) Received: from babylon.toplink.net (babylon.toplink.net [195.2.171.90]) by mail.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20276; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:21:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ck@localhost) by babylon.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA38737; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:21:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:21:22 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Kratzer To: Dan Nelson Cc: TrouBle , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem In-Reply-To: <19991031231517.A86862@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: de.toplink X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% X-Jihad: Will hunt down all cases of Spam and Net abuse. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: [snipp] > Why are you manually modifying master.passwd in the first place? Does > the 'pw' command not do what you want? User programs really shouldn't > mess with the passwd file at all. we do this all the time for creating webserver and homepage ftp accounts. This seems to be what the original poster wants to do, Really a very clean process using pwd_mkdb You don't want to use useradd, pw or other interactive stuff when creating users out of your customer database. This is what pwd_mkdb is there for. Greetings Christian -- TopLink Internet Services GmbH ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa Christian Kratzer http://www.toplink.net/ Phone: +49 7032 2701-0 Fax: +49 7032 2701-19 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 1:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189C614D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from junglenote.com (digital30.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.248]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA03042 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:24:18 +0100 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:29:03 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:02 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF2453.EAB10B20.dl@tyfon.net> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-Questions-List] (E-post)" Subject: mysql port issue Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:01 +0100 Organization: Network Operations - Tyfon Internet Services X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: dl@tyfon.net Reply-To: dl@tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to build the MySQL-3.22.27 server port but it halts on ltconfig: unrecognized option: '--disable-ltlibs' Try 'ltconfig --help' for more information. configure: error: libtool configure failed *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I successfully built the 3.21.xx port eariler this year. Any ideas how to make it build? Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 1:37:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cptcomxch.usko.com (mail.usko.com [209.203.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECAB14E72 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rick.afonso@usko.com) Received: by CPTCOMXCH with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:39:27 +0200 Message-ID: <91FBD7B8C861D2119C3100805FA72FE1199ECE@CPTCOMXCH> From: Rick Afonso To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.'" Subject: Squid Proxy & Natd Arp problem Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:39:26 +0200 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Everyone I have a client who is experiencing a strange problem which appears to be ARP related. ISP1 ISP2 | | router router | ip1 |ip2 |------------------------------------------------------------|Ethernet | | |ip1.1 |ip2.1 | | | | DNS DNS Proxy1 Proxy2 | | 10.0.0.0/16|----------------------------------| Ethernet | | WWW W/stations Server The client has two incoming leased line circuits from two different ISP's, each circuit has a registered IP address range being routed through it. The client has two BSD boxes setup as Proxy (Squid) servers also running NATD. The clients internal network sits on the 10.0.0.0 / 16 range behind these two proxy servers. The client's two DNS servers are on the registered IP side of the Proxy servers, while his web server (hosting multiple sites) is behind the proxy servers. The two proxy servers have NATd alias tables mapping the relevant registered IP address to the private internal address. Each server is dedicated to one of the registered IP ranges. ie: an http request will be resolved to a registered IP address which when the client browser connects to, will be redirected to the private address, which it corresponds to in the NATd tables, by the proxy server which services the particular external IP range( indicated by numbering above) From the outside world this works fine. Attempting to connect to one of the hosted web sites, the traffic hits the relevant proxy server which then translates it and passes it to the web server on the relevant internal address. If an internal user tries to connect to a web site (using one of the proxy servers as his browser proxy) the results vary. If the site he attempts to connect to is natted via the proxy box (being used as his web proxy) he cannot connect.. Looking at the ARP table on that proxy server it indicates " incomplete " for the relevant external IP address arp resolution. If the web site is natted via the other proxy server it works fine ie: if the IP address resolved for a web site is an address which is being natted by the same proxy server (which is used as a proxy ) by the client workstation, the proxy server is not immediately replacing the external address with the internal NATTED address and passing the traffic back to the internal server. It appears to try an ARP request which never gets answered. Does anyone have any ideas what could cause this? And an idea on how to resolve it. Thanks Rick Rick Afonso Senior Network Engineer USKO Communications Cape Town South Africa Mobile: +27 83 6014010 Phone: +27 21 4185354 Fax: +27 21 4185478 This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 2:28:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout10.btx.dtag.de (mailout10.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF30152B9 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:28:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Tho.Hofmann@t-online.de) Received: from fwd12.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.172]) by mailout10.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 11iEh4-0000OA-00; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:28:06 +0100 Received: from t-online.de (0302118349-0001(btxid)@[193.159.101.105]) by fwd12.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <381A8D39.63C6CF7D@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:16:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [de]C-CCK-MCD QXW03200 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help on loader.conf References: <38193640.CFFD07B3@t-online.de> <19991031081032.A23103@sr.se> <38199BF6.A66596F3@t-online.de> <19991101102829.B27039@sr.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0302118349-0001@t-dialin.net From: Tho.Hofmann@t-online.de (Thomas Hofmann) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Hi., > > > > I missed to configure my ethernet card correctly in the beginning of > > > > instalation > > > > > > > I can reconfigure only temporarily now with UserConfig . > > > > But when I boot next time all parameters are lost. > I mean hardware parameters such as io 0x300 and irq 11 > these I missed to configure in the beginning of installation of my > 3.2system > Can I give these parameters to some file in loader.conf or kernel.conf? > > > > and if Yes how is th format. > > > > Or do I have to reinstall the whole system or make a new kernel to get > > > > along? > > > > > > > If you can help me I'd be glad > > > > > > > Thomas Hofmann > > > > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 2:57:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4A314A08 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:57:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11iF9F-000O1S-00; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:57:13 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Markus Grundmann Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: How can i find it? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 09:41:53 +0100." <6B2FB0B60467D311BE2000A0C941F9A116A0@mail2.s2m.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:57:13 +0200 Message-ID: <92345.941453833@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 09:41:53 +0100, Markus Grundmann wrote: > IP Bandwith: ipltd - IP traffic bandwidth shaping/limiting daemon. You can > find it in http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&query=ipltd.*%5C.tgz&doit=Search&type=Regular+expression+search&hits=100&matches=&hitsprmatch=&limdom=&limpath=&hidepackages=on&f1=Count&f2=Mode&f3=Size&f4=Date&f5=Host&f6=Path&header=none&sort=none&trlen=20 Sorry about the length of the URL. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 3: 0:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055C514D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11iFCR-000O2r-00; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:00:31 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:41 PST." <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:00:31 +0200 Message-ID: <92432.941454031@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:41 PST, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > So, i'm trying to build 'imlib' (to use with gnome components) > on my system. to build this, i built GTK, libgif, libtiff, and all the > other libs it requires. It sounds like you're doing all this by hand. The ports system would make this easier for you. Alternatively, packages would probably make it even easier. Check out the FreeBSD Ports and Packages collections at: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 3: 2:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0808314D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11iFEP-000O3S-00; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:02:33 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "brian.e" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Screenshot In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 18:23:24 +1300." <381D23CC.AAC36A3F@Ihug.co.nz> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:02:33 +0200 Message-ID: <92469.941454153@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 18:23:24 +1300, "brian.e" wrote: > However the study I am doing is of comparisons between operating systems > and nowhere can I find a screenshot of FreeBSD. Probably because screenshots tell you absolutely nothing about the usefulness of an operating system. :-) FreeBSD the operating system looks like what you get in a COMMAND prompt in Windows (assuming you're familiar with that platform). You can run a Windowing system on top of FreeBSD and make that look like just about anything, including Windows. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 3: 4:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE3314D75 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11iFG5-000O44-00; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:04:17 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: FreeBSD Bob Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which is the most recent src tree for 2.2.8 + fixes? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:45 -0400." <199910281755.NAA14876@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:04:17 +0200 Message-ID: <92507.941454257@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:45 -0400, FreeBSD Bob wrote: > What is the proper way to get this, hopefully as a single tarball, and > from where in the cannonical archives at ftp.freebsd.org? The proper way to do this is to use a syncronization tool like CVSup or CVS to update the source tree from the remote machine, using the branch tag RELENG_2_2. See Chapter 18 of the FreeBSD handbook for more information on synchronizing your source tree. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 3:41:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547ED14FD8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveroo@mothra.bri.hp.com) Received: from mothra.bri.hp.com (steveroo@mothra.bri.hp.com [15.144.1.185]) by atlrel2.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id GAA00557 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (steveroo@localhost) by mothra.bri.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.1) id LAA20166 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:39:55 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:39:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Roome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Athlons.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know if the following example, taken from AMD's documentation, would improve bcopy performance on the Athlon? (over the routine that would be defaulted to ?) I'm asking, because I don't know enough asm, to put this in safely, and I quite probably don't know what I'm talking about at all, but someone's got to make a fool of themselves now and again. (example at end) Steve ; xfer label should be 32 byte aligned. movq-movq example : _asm { mov eax, [src] mov edx, [dst] mov ecx, (SIZE >> 6) xfer: movq mm0, [eax] add edx, 64 movq mm1, [eax+8] add eax, 64 movq mm2, [eax-48] movq [edx-64], mm0 movq mm3, [eax-40] movq [edx-56], mm1 movq mm4, [eax-32] movq [edx-48], mm2 movq mm5, [eax-24] movq [edx-40], mm3 movq mm6, [eax-16] movq [edx-32], mm4 movq mm7, [eax-8] movq [edx-24], mm5 movq [edx-16], mm6 dec ecx movq [edx-8], mm7 jnz xfer } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 4: 1:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from front7.grolier.fr (front7.grolier.fr [194.158.96.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CD514F91 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vons@iname.com) Received: from CYRIL (ppp-116-148.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.116.148]) by front7.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id NAA04806; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:00:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.1.10.19991101121031.00aa76b8@mail.vons.local> X-Sender: vons@mail.vons.local (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1.10 (Beta) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:00:26 +0100 To: andrew@sign.chg.ru ("Andrew L. Neporada") From: Gert-Jan Vons Subject: Re: 3.3-STABLE : Performance problems?? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <7uvubl$t4u$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:40 1999-10-25 +0800, Andrew L. Neporada wrote: >Hi All! >For a long time I participate in one distributed computational project ( >see http://www.mersenne.org for details). So I'am running a special >program at low priority (nice=20), that utilizes all CPU power. >After upgrading from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.3-STABLE I've noticed that average >performance (averaging period is big enough to eliminate impact from >other tasks ) of this programm is only 77% from measured >performance on 3.1R and same hardware. Same here for the rc5des project (http://www.distributed.net). With FBSD 3.2, I got ~237KKeys/sec. With FBSD3.3, I'm only seeing ~167KKeys/sec, which is only ~70% of the performance I used to see under FBSD3.2 on the same hardware. >I also notice some strange thing: >top shows about 30% 'interrupt' at CPU states line. >Maybe someone could help me to find out what happens? >Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not seeing that at all, the interrupt %-age is close to 0% like it used to be. For me, the strange thing is that I see this 30% loss on a Cyrix P166+ rev1.7, but that there is no performance difference whatsoever on an AMD K6-II/300. I haven't been able to find/get an explanation for this :-/ Gert-Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 4:40:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de (merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65618150A8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de) Received: from caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de by merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:40:31 +0100 Received: from sun21.mni.fh-giessen.de ([134.176.183.121]) by caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 11iGf6-0002Ju-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:34:12 +0100 Received: from localhost (hg9456@localhost) by sun21.mni.fh-giessen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00469 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:42:04 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sun21.mni.fh-giessen.de: hg9456 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:42:02 +0100 (MET) From: Ariel Burbaickij X-Sender: hg9456@sun21 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kde1.2 and ports in general Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HUllo I use fbsd3.2 and wanted to make 2 things:upgrade my ports collection in general and upgrade from kde1.0 to kde1.2 particullary i tried it yesterday using utility /stand/sysinstall .i have downladed something ,but i guess i am not fien out,cause My current ports tree does not bear any signs of change in the tree(e.g. i miss irc and kde directories alltogether)in that context 2 questions: 1)what should i do to complete the upgrading of ports collection in general 2)what should i do top upgrade my kde? 2.a)how can i uprage it safely over kde1.0? any additional clearing questions from you are welcome Regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 4:46:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rknebel.uplink.net (rknebel.uplink.net [209.173.88.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59F150A8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:46:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rknebel@rknebel.uplink.net) Received: (from rknebel@localhost) by rknebel.uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA12829 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:45:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rknebel) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:45:12 -0500 From: Rick Knebel To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: wordperfect Message-ID: <19991101074512.A7632@rknebel.uplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i had wordperfect running great in 3.2. i upgraded to 3.3 and when I tried to start WP I would get this message. Please Wait .ELF binary type not known. Use "brandelf" to brand it. Abort trap I deinstalled it and then reinstalled it but on make install of the port I get the same message. When it starts the install it says it cannot use the graphical interface and then tries to proceed with a text install, but the above line about brandelf keeps repeating inself. The installation says it is completed but WP will not start up because there is no xwp in the directory. So obviously the installation was not complete. Could anyone give me a hand? Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel rknebel@uplink.net http://rknebel.uplink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 5:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de (merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9AA14CE7 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de) Received: from caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de by merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:46:01 +0100 Received: from sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de ([134.176.183.133]) by caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 11iHgU-0003jU-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:39:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (hg9456@localhost) by sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09905 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:47:30 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de: hg9456 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:47:27 +0100 (MET) From: Ariel Burbaickij X-Sender: hg9456@sun33 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kde1.1 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i tried to install kdebase1.1 under fbsd3.2 with standard make ;make install procedure procedure crashed in the middle of proccess spiting something about anable to resolve referencies if anyone is willing to help i can post relevant excerpt form messages,but is anyone willing? Regards Ariel Burbaickijj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 5:58: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6DE14FF9 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by www.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16314; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:57:41 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A398F5; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:57:49 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:57:49 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: nelson huang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap Message-ID: <19991101155749.A576@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com>; from nelson huang on Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 10:36:10PM -0600 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 10:36:10PM -0600, nelson huang wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > but it always responses with the message > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! One problem can be that your machine doesn't have loopback inteface up and running. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 5:59:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DEE14FF9 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from congress@carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from BVV (dialup4-44.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.74.236]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA20131 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:02:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <00b501bf2468$e92862c0$02000f0a@BVV.ukrinfo.kiev.ua> From: "Sell&Buy" To: Subject: About adding route Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:59:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BF2482.0BF02860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BF2482.0BF02860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In rc.conf I add default route server - but in start read, than route: network is unreachable Well, I run ppp > add! default -add route failed - network is unreachable. Hou I add default route? Andrey vorobets@mail.ru ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BF2482.0BF02860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In rc.conf I add = default route=20 server  - but in start read, than
route: network is = unreachable
Well, I run = ppp
> add! default = <ip-adress>
-add route failed = - network is=20 unreachable. Hou I add default route?
Andrey
vorobets@mail.ru
------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BF2482.0BF02860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 6:45:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sinshost.sins.ru (sinshost.sins.ru [195.230.67.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B348814BC2 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olq@sinshost.sins.ru) Received: from olq (telecom.sins.ru [195.230.67.38]) by sinshost.sins.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13045 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:44:55 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199911011444.RAA13045@sinshost.sins.ru> From: "O.Trofileeva" To: Subject: OSPF Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:46:13 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have two channels to Internet from one subnet. They are of different bandwidth. Can we use them both as default routes (routes to Internet)? I mean simultaneous traffic via both routes in accounting the bandwidth of each. Would be gated (OSPF) useful here? Thanks, Olga Trofileeva Special Information Service To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 6:48:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC1914BC2 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:48:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20542; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22235; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:48:00 -0500 (EST) To: Erik Stainsby , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read lease length on DHCP license? References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 01 Nov 1999 09:47:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: Erik Stainsby's message of Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:43:42 -2300 (/usr/i) Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erik Stainsby writes: > I am about to be using ADSL as my primary connection from home to my > production environment and want to be able to setup a VPN of sorts between > the home box and the working static network. ADSL as provided by the > telco is DHCP only. What I'd like to be able to do is establish the lease > duration sa given by the telco when I connect, and ship this as a TTL with > the IP assigned to my nameserver, register that in the name tables, > restart the nameservice and voila! I'm a member of my named space. > > Am I insane? Is there any clearly foreseeable flaw? Any pointers? Very ugly, but it should work. I do see a problem with setting the TTL from the lease duration. You actually want to set the lease duration a lot shorter, and you're still going to have race conditions where people who cached your address will continue to use the old address for the TTL. Not that there Is No Way to avoid that without cooperation between the DNS master and the DHCP server, though. As a rough estimate and for most purposes, I'd set the TTL at the shorter of a) half the remaining time to lease *renewal* and b) one hour, but that's mostly because it's going to mimic typical practice. Be well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 6:52:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from osage.gate.net (osage.gate.net [198.206.134.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A6414BC2 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wjm@gate.net) Received: from inca.gate.net (wjm@inca.gate.net [199.227.0.11]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA57586; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:52:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (wjm@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA95502; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:53:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: inca.gate.net: wjm owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:53:10 -0500 (EST) From: William Melanson To: Guillaume Paquet Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program In-Reply-To: <000501bf23b3$13657e80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Guillaume Paquet wrote: % Hi, % % Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it % reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? % I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE % % Guillaume Paquet % foub@globetrotter.net % I'd look towards your menory sticks. Sounds like a hardware problem to me. I used to have a bsd box freeze up on me because I was mixing and matching (70ns + 60ns) sticks. Luckily for me I had found an option within the mainboard bios which kind of forced it to recognize both if installed as such... --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ William J. Melanson CyberGate, Inc. | e.spire Communications Sr Network Controller Deerfield Beach, FL 33441 Network Operations Center Phone: (954) 429-8080 finger wjm@gate.net PGP public key --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 6:54:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B876514BC2 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 06:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA06890 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:57:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wayne) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911011457.IAA06890@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: screen file To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:57:36 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD, How to capture screen? You know how if I hit Scroll/Lock, I can then use the up arrow to peruse what has rolled off the screen? I would like to capture this screen contents in a file. Or is this already happening? If so, where is it? Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 7:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.200.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE29814FD8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reimers@tu-harburg.de) Received: from tu-harburg.de (data.et8.tu-harburg.de [134.28.45.64]) by rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26979 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:24:45 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <381DB0BD.D3F33C7F@tu-harburg.de> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:24:45 +0100 From: Sven Reimers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: su seems to hang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, this suddenly starts to occur on my system (3.2 release) su - ask for password and then the verification of password seems to take forever. This seems to happen only under X. Any idea? Sven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 7:27:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38C514FD8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benh@blues.jpj.net) Received: from localhost (benh@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id KAA08232 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:27:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:27:40 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Hockenhull To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Locale problem (with perl) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a new 3.3 machine set up and I'm having a problem with locale. I've never seen this before, and I'm not sure what to do to fix it. I searched the archives, and some folks noted an issue related to StarOffice, but SO is not installed. I was unable to find any other solutions in the archives. The problem appears regardless of shell, and I do have both ASCII and US_ASCII symlinked to lt_LN.ASCII in /usr/share/locale, and lt_LN.ASCII contains LC_COLLATE, LC_TIME and LC_CTYPE only. Handy hints? Do I need to find and add something? % perl -v perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE = "ISO8859-1", LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd Copyright 1987-1999, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page. -- Ben Hockenhull benh@jpj.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 7:33:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AEA14FD8 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:33:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11iJSc-000Faj-00; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA45100 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:30 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:30 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: exporting lyx to word Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I checked the help menus in LyX and the import filters in Word, and I really can't tell how this is done. I like the look of Lyx, and I would like to learn to use it, but only if my professors, who use MS Word, can read it. I do very little printing, BTW. Is there an output format from LyX that can be easily read by MS Word? -jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 7:48: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de (merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C5114F24 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de) Received: from caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de by merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:47:16 +0100 Received: from sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de ([134.176.183.133]) by caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 11iJZo-0006dc-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:40:56 +0100 Received: from localhost (hg9456@localhost) by sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09999 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:48:48 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de: hg9456 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:48:47 +0100 (MET) From: Ariel Burbaickij X-Sender: hg9456@sun33 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: upgrade troubles is folowwing possible? Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hullo is upgrade on following pattern possible: i give in the system i have(in my case 3.2) i give in system i want to b e upgraded to(let us say 3.3) optionally i type in parts of the system i want to have upgraded some concluding works? or is the hole drudge(as i understand it at least) with cvs necessary? any clearing questions are surely welcome. admitedly the description is far to common but it just the idea Regards Ariel Burbaickij To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8: 3:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from osage.gate.net (osage.gate.net [198.206.134.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76CF14F24 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wjm@gate.net) Received: from inca.gate.net (wjm@inca.gate.net [199.227.0.11]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA84028; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:02:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (wjm@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA72336; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:03:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: inca.gate.net: wjm owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:03:19 -0500 (EST) From: William Melanson To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: % % The problem is that 'imlib' refuses to build, claiming that all % of the above are not installed. this almost certainly seems to be % because it can't find them in /usr/local (it's most likely just looking % in /usr). % 1. Go into the programs build/makfeile directory. 2. View the list of options/commands associated with autoconf/configure. ./configure --help what you'll see is this: --localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data in DIR [PREFIX/var] --libdir=DIR object code libraries in DIR [EPREFIX/lib] --includedir=DIR C header files in DIR [PREFIX/include] --oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc in DIR [/usr/include] --infodir=DIR info documentation in DIR [PREFIX/info] --mandir=DIR man documentation in DIR [PREFIX/man] --srcdir=DIR find the sources in DIR [configure dir or ..] Then just throw these fellas at configure maybe like such: ./configure --libdir=-L/usr/local/lib \ --includedir=-I/usr/local/include \ --infodir=/usr/local/info --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ William J. Melanson CyberGate, Inc. | e.spire Communications Sr Network Controller Deerfield Beach, FL 33441 Network Operations Center Phone: (954) 429-8080 finger wjm@gate.net PGP public key --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8: 6:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB4814F24 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id LAA08591; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:06:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:06:43 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson To: Ben Hockenhull Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Locale problem (with perl) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > % perl -v > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LC_CTYPE = "ISO8859-1", > LANG = (unset) > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Howdy, Ben. Maybe this is what you want: % setenv LC_CTYPE "en_US.ISO_8859-1" __ Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8:21:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bifrost.agrknives.com (bifrost.hos.net [205.238.129.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAA415221 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arussell@bifrost.agrknives.com) Received: (from arussell@localhost) by bifrost.agrknives.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05045 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:19:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from arussell) From: "A.G. Russell IV" Message-Id: <199911011619.KAA05045@bifrost.agrknives.com> Subject: Problems installing (cd/diskette boot) 3.X on Boardrunner mvp3/586b To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:19:31 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have several machines running 3.2/2.2.8/2.2.5 so on, and theses systems have Asus and Boardrunner mother boards. I have a 2.2.8 system with a Boardrunner mvp3/586b mother board IDE 4gig, 128 meg of mem, S3 Virge vid. and it will not boot FreeBSD 3.X from the floppy/cdrom. FreeBSD 2.2.X, and Linux/dos/windoze(nt/98/95) will all boot from the floppy/cdrom, but not FreeBSD 3.X. Looking back, this appears to be my first Boardrunner going to 3.X. I'm comfortable with doing an update, except that if I have to emergency recover the system, then I am stuck. I have not yet tried the update. I have experimented extensively with the BIOS, and have updated to the latest version, still no joy. Any and all help would be appreciated. A.G. _______________________________________________________________________________ A.G. Russell IV KC5KFD High Order Software e-mail: ag4@hos.net Phone 512-834-1145 These are my views, on anyone else they would look silly. When it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed by tomorrow... United States Marine Corps ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8:30: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9FE14BFA for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA96734; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:41 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Christian Kratzer Cc: TrouBle , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem Message-ID: <19991101102941.A96221@dan.emsphone.com> References: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from ck@toplink.net on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 10:18:16AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 01), Christian Kratzer said: > no big deal. We have awk or perl scripts creating master.passwd files > on freebsd since we started with FreeBSD 2.0. We learned by reading > the vipw source code. > > You need to do following > > 1. write master.passwd.tmp or other name somewhere in same file > system as /etc lives in. Best is /etc/master.passwd.tmp > > 2. run pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd.tmp > > This installs the new master.passwd and creates/updates following files > - passwd plaintext stripped version of master.passwd in classic > unix format without crypted passwords > - spwd.db Binary version of master.passwd > - pwd.db Binary version of passwd > > All the information for the other files is in master.passwd > > Thats it. But beware. You can screw up things really bad. And that 'Beware' line is exactly the reason you should be using the 'pw' command :) Pw is supposed to be called from interactive programs to actually do the modifications; it handles everything for you. If you are only changing/adding one userid, it won't rebuild the entire .db file, making updates a lot faster. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8:31:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93114BFA for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:31:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pf6k-mrkm@asahi-net.or.jp) Received: from vaio ([12.74.5.202]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991101163147.WMJP12296@vaio> for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:31:47 +0000 Message-ID: <002401bf2486$a13536a0$406efea9@vaio> Reply-To: "Seiichi Murakami" From: "Seiichi Murakami" To: Subject: Driver software for touch panels Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:31:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear sir or madam, I am deeply impressed with your voluntary great achievement since I have known about them and feel very happy because the FreeBSD will make our computer system easier to use. The company I work for is a world wide touch panel manufacturer named Gunze Electronics USA co. in Austin, Texas. I would like to get in touch with some person who dedicate to FreeBSD and also can take care of a driver software with peripherals regarding serial communication type devices under FreeBSD. We don't intend to sell the driver software with our touch panel products. Although we realize that it is just a customer support issue, we don't know how to do it at this moment. We are very sorry to bother you for such kind asking. But we believe that FreeBSD would renovate the computer scene and make users feel comfortable with computers more. I'm looking forward to having some reply from you in the near future. Thank you. Sincerely, Seiichi Murakami Integration Manager GUNZE Electronics USA corp. http://www.gunzeusa.com http://www.ellamp.com 2113 Wells Branch Parkway, Ste.5400 Austin, TX 78728 TEL:+1(512)990-3400 / +1(512)252-1299 FAX:+1(512)990-1912 / +1(512)252-1181 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8:51:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0783C1528C for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:51:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iflemmin@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (iflemmin@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA18898 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:48:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:48:48 -0500 (EST) From: Isaac Flemming Reply-To: Isaac Flemming To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NASM for FreeBSD (update...) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello again, First I would like to thank all of you who sent replies to my question. They have been helpful. Second I would like to clarify my question to answer questions you had about it. I want to use the Netwide Assembler (NASM) to assemble some programs for a class I am taking. I am running FreeBSD 3.2-Release. When I attempt to assemble the programs written for a DOS box I get no errors, but when I try to execute them I get the message "cannot execute binary file." I have tried to compile them with a .c program that calls it but I either get a message telling me "file not recognized: File format not recognized," This I learned is because I was using a.out format instead of elf, Now that I am using elf my program core dumps. I do realize that there are many differences between the way DOS and FreeBSD use interrupts. My question now is does anyone know of any documentation that will tell me how to do I/O calls to the system in FreeBSD? Also once I do have information about the I/O calls will I be able to execute the programs assembled as stand alone programs or do I have to call them with a .c program? I cannot seem to get NASM to assemble a stand alone program!? Thanks again Isaac D. Flemming ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac D. Flemming Senior Computer Science Major Mount Vernon Nazarene College Email: iflemmin@mvnc.edu Phone: (740) 397-6862 x7604 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 8:54:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DB0152D0 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31512; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:53:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:53:16 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Taylor To: J McKitrick Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: exporting lyx to word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, J McKitrick wrote: > I checked the help menus in LyX and the import filters in Word, and I > really can't tell how this is done. I like the look of Lyx, and I > would like to learn to use it, but only if my professors, who use MS > Word, can read it. I do very little printing, BTW. Is there an > output format from LyX that can be easily read by MS Word? I don't think this is possible - LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX mostly - I don't think there's anything you can do to output a Word readable file (maybe plain text? I never use Word). Brett ***************************************************** Dr. Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics * Walker 234 (540) 831-5410 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 9:42:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from internetserver.cns.ch (internetserver.cns.ch [193.192.234.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6FF152B1 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@aeschbacher.com) Received: from aeschbacher.com (195.141.125.61) by internetserver.cns.ch with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:43:17 +0200 Message-ID: <381DEBE1.5E301132@aeschbacher.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 19:37:06 +0000 From: Stefan Aeschbacher X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: i4b kernel config Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EC15B12B801CC1C633845A1C" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC15B12B801CC1C633845A1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I tried X hours to compile a kernel with support for i4b but I did not succed. The version of i4b which is delivered with 3.3-stable does not have the AVM_A1_PCI card support, so I made an overinstall with the newest version. (as the INSTALLATION file says). Even though I get the following config message: glamdring# /usr/sbin/config ISDNKERN01 ISDNKERN01:254: unknown option "SPPP_VJ" ISDNKERN01:217: unknown option "AVM_A1_PCI" Unknown options used - it is VERY important that you do make clean && make depend before recompiling Kernel build directory is ../../compile/ISDNKERN01 make depend works fine. Make gives the follwing output: . . . loading kernel i4b_isic_pci.o: In function `i4b_pci_attach': i4b_isic_pci.o(.text+0x141): undefined reference to `avma1pp_map_int' i4b_isic_pci.o: In function `isic_pciattach': i4b_isic_pci.o(.text+0x196): undefined reference to `isic_attach_avma1pp' *** Error code 1 Stop. thanks for any clues Stefan --------------EC15B12B801CC1C633845A1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="ISDNKERN01" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ISDNKERN01" # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.143.2.22 1999/09/14 22:53:30 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident "ISDNKERN01" maxusers 32 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) syscall trace support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 # PnP support for ISA controller eisa0 controller pci0 # Floppy drives controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # IDE controller and disks options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 # ATAPI devices options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # SCSI Controllers # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 # NCR/Symbios Logic #controller ahb0 # EISA AHA1742 family #controller ahc0 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #controller amd0 # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #controller isp0 # Qlogic family #controller dpt0 # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? # SCSI peripherals # Only one of each of these is needed, they are dynamically allocated. #controller scbus0 # SCSI bus (required) #device da0 # Direct Access (disks) #device sa0 # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd0 # CD #device pass0 # Passthrough device (direct SCSI) # Proprietary or custom CD-ROM Interfaces device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 device matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt0 at ppbus? # Printer device plip0 at ppbus? # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi0 at ppbus? # Parallel port interface device #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # Requires scbus and da0 # PCI Ethernet NICs. device al0 # ADMtek AL981 (``Comet'') device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf0 # Adaptec AIC-6915 DuraLAN (``Starfire'') device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? # requires PCCARD (PCMCIA) support to be activated #device xe0 at isa? port? net irq ? # PCCARD NIC drivers. # ze and zp take over the pcic and cannot coexist with generic pccard # support, nor the ed and ep drivers they replace. #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun 1 # Packet tunnel pseudo-device pty 16 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 1 #Berkeley packet filter #ISDN Support #AVM Frity!Card PCI options "AVM_A1_PCI" device isic0 # ISDN Protocol Stack # ------------------- # # Q.921 / layer 2 - i4b passive cards D channel handling pseudo-device "i4bq921" # # Q.931 / layer 3 - i4b passive cards D channel handling pseudo-device "i4bq931" # # layer 4 - i4b common passive and active card handling pseudo-device "i4b" # # ISDN devices # ------------ # #userland driver to do ISDN tracing (for passive cards only) pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 # # userland driver to control the whole thing pseudo-device "i4bctl" # # userland driver for access to raw B channel pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 # # userland driver for telephony pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 # # network driver for IP over raw HDLC ISDN pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 # enable VJ header compression detection for ipr i/f options IPR_VJ # # network driver for sync PPP over ISDN # enable VJ header compression detection for isp/sppp i/f options SPPP_VJ pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 pseudo-device sppp 4 --------------EC15B12B801CC1C633845A1C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 9:52:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.207.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7217E14E41 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsdbob@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu) Received: (from fbsdbob@localhost) by weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29704; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:56:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fbsdbob) From: FreeBSD Bob Message-Id: <199911011756.MAA29704@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah (with common goals) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991031112114.008eb610@mail.flrtn1.occa.home.com> from "iratus@home.com" at "Oct 31, 1999 11:21:14 am" To: iratus@home.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:56:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > >> joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > >> (although that method seems to work, too). > >What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure > >but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. I think this has merit. Something more that just a common Readme, but with some steering indications of what the basic system can do, and what it can do with added ``features'' as Blue is want to say. Some of that is done in various docs and readmes, but it seems a little scattered here and there. > >It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how > >and why this configuration was established in the first place. This is covered in the historical tidbits, but is, perhaps, not as well brought out to the newbie. The handbook provides some insights. > >Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your > >through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with > >it. There are lots of basic books, a fair number of BSD things, plus the cannonical BSD bibles from Berkeley, all of which are good reading. Sometimes, the newbie seems to have trouble finding it all or wading through it from the newbie perspective, since it was written for the professionals. > I really don't want to start a flame war but you might consider the > following since what you seek is there: The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, > almost any basic book on Unix as BSD is a well know unix version, the > FreeBSD handbook which is included with the various distributions (2.*, 3.* > etc), all of the man pages (though I agree they are a handful just to > interpret in some cases), if you are headed for guruhood a look at the > original 4.4BSD series is nice, and a search of Amazon.com will show you > more then I think just about anybody could remember. As an aside, if you > don't know what you have after you are done perhaps time with any of the > aforesaid books should be spent BEFORE you install. Its really all there if > you just look, though it has been my experiance that "handholding" is > probably in short supply though IMHO, this isn't that big a deal. Just my > 2cents worth. Jeff Phillips No flames, whatever. My ol' dusty, motheaten Inet Flak Suit probably would not even fit, anymore, as the ``wisdom of age'' has rather rotundified me innards, to put it mildly. The constructive discussion is what I am after. The FreeBSD handbook, is probably our cannon from which to start. Lehey's book is a close second. Manpages are never a place from which to start. They are a place from which to admin and userspeak, in currency. Something is needed a little before the manpages. The manpages are the cannon for the user and the admin, AFTER the machine is up and running, in real time. The Berkeley bibles, i.e., the smm/ps1/usd suite are usually written at a more professional level than Joe enduser has, although the usd sections (particularly 1) can be helpful. Many/most Joe endusers will have a hard time at a deeper level than that, unless they already come from a more experienced background, compared to the point+click kind. Still, I get a sense that, to put it all together, and it is a rightly complex matter for the newbie, one also needs some kind of a hands on system to paw with ALONGSIDE the cannon. For the sake of discussion, what pops to mind would be a rather limited system with only the basics for getting up a minimal machine, or a minimal machine with X (even that is probably more complicated than the newbie needs to start with), and then running through various scripts and the like to get the real-time feet wet. The system must be bulletproof, and come up on anything running dos/windoz, and allow controlled interactivity without nuking the original OS's (as good bad or ugly as they may be). This has to be a load and go type of thing that even the most geen newbie can get rolling, with minimal effort. In some respects, it almost becomes a distance education sort of thing, with remote-hands-on training. Then, when some minimal expertise is obtained, let the newbie out on the race track, to go it for real. In days past, we used to do that kind of thing by 1 on 1 mentoring around the consoles in a dark room, late at night. Nowadays, we need to adjust that approach for Joe enduser out in Timbuktu with only a 9.6K modem to a slow email-electronic mentor. Nowadays, the drop-in CD becomes the quasi-mentor. Good discussion, and I appreciate all those who contributed to it. Maybe some good will come of it...... Thanks Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10: 1:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAF914F45 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11iLm4-000LeO-00; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:01:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA45935 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:01:40 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:01:40 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: debug kernel size Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen some posts here to the effect that there is no need to strip debug info from a kernel, because this info is not loaded into memory. But somewhere in Lehey's book, i thought i saw a statement that the symbols ARE loaded into memory to allow debugging, and so they DO take up system resources. WHich is true? p.s. I'll keep looking for that statement, i thought i found it but it was the wrong one... -jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10: 6:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDCB152B1 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com ([199.103.141.157]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29840; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:36:15 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101120441.40752@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:04:41 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Alfred Perlstein , Greg Skouby Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum RAID-5 again Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Alfred Perlstein on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 12:00:00AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 1 November 1999 at 0:00:00 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Greg Skouby wrote: > >> Hello, >> I got this sample RAID-5 config off of lemis.com/vinum and it >> seems over simplified to the point where I don't think I understand it. If >> at any time in this message you think I need to go back and RTFM please >> stop reading and let me know that. This is the sample config for RAID-5 >> that I am referring to: >> >> drive e device /dev/da6h >> volume raid5 >> plex org raid5 512k >> sd length 128m drive a >> sd length 128m drive b >> sd length 128m drive c >> sd length 128m drive d >> sd length 128m drive e >> >> >> I have a couple of questions about this. Is this config only slicing up >> one drive? That is what I gather from the config but the theory behind >> RAID-5 is that you need at least 3 for there to be a point in using >> RAID-5. So one of my many questions is that where do the drive a, drive b, >> drive c, drive d, and drive e 's come from? Are there seperated >> statements for those devices like there is for the drive e? Something such >> as drive a devide /dev/da0h? > > I think there is an implied > > drive a device /dev/da2h > drive b device /dev/da3h > drive c device /dev/da4h > drive d device /dev/da5h > > before the "drive e device /dev/da6h" line. > > it should be noted that some of the shortcuts used in the vinum manpage > that aren't noted as being shortcuts can make things confusing for the > first time user. > > the "drive" commands just provide a meaningful alias to /dev/ entries. In particular, it allows you to move drives around physically. Vinum will still find them when starting up, thus removing a potential way of shooting yourself in the foot. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10: 6:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4F615061 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com ([199.103.141.157]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29834; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:36:03 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101120338.43152@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:03:38 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Skouby , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum RAID-5 again Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Greg Skouby on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 01:11:19AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 1 November 1999 at 1:11:19 -0500, Greg Skouby wrote: > Hello, > I got this sample RAID-5 config off of lemis.com/vinum and it > seems over simplified to the point where I don't think I understand it. If > at any time in this message you think I need to go back and RTFM please > stop reading and let me know that. This is the sample config for RAID-5 > that I am referring to: > > drive e device /dev/da6h > volume raid5 > plex org raid5 512k > sd length 128m drive a > sd length 128m drive b > sd length 128m drive c > sd length 128m drive d > sd length 128m drive e OK, what you have here is a partial config, probably from the section which explains that we're building up on existing configs. You're missing the definitions for drives a to d, which were in earlier examples. > I have a couple of questions about this. Is this config only slicing up > one drive? No, it's slicing 5 drives. > That is what I gather from the config but the theory behind RAID-5 > is that you need at least 3 for there to be a point in using RAID-5. Correct. > So one of my many questions is that where do the drive a, drive b, > drive c, drive d, and drive e 's come from? Are there seperated > statements for those devices like there is for the drive e? Something such > as drive a devide /dev/da0h? When starting from scratch, the complete config file might be: drive a device /dev/da2h drive b device /dev/da3h drive c device /dev/da4h drive d device /dev/da5h drive e device /dev/da6h volume raid5 plex org raid5 512k sd length 128m drive a sd length 128m drive b sd length 128m drive c sd length 128m drive d sd length 128m drive e > I guess I am just confused. Let me hit you up with the scenario that I am > trying to use RAID-5 in. I have 4 external seagate drives of 23gigs each. > I want to use those 4 drives in a RAID-5 array. They are da0 through da3. > The drive where the OS sits is da4. I am wondering what I need to do to > get RAID-5 running across those four drives. Thanks for all of your help. > I appreciated it. Just change the numbers and remove a drive (since you only have 4 available): drive a device /dev/da0h drive b device /dev/da1h drive c device /dev/da2h drive d device /dev/da3h volume raid5 plex org raid5 512k sd length 128m drive a sd length 128m drive b sd length 128m drive c sd length 128m drive d Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8BE15035 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11iM74-000DGp-00; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:23:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA46045 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:23:26 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:23:26 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: debug kernel size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Found it: 3rd edition page 379, at the bottom -jm >But somewhere in Lehey's book, i thought i saw a statement that the >symbols ARE loaded into memory to allow debugging, and so they DO take up >system resources. WHich is true? p.s. I'll keep looking for that >statement, i thought i found it but it was the wrong one... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10:31:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yeti.host4u.net (yeti.host4u.net [209.150.128.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE2814BDC for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:31:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DNobles@dnobles.com) Received: from arl_6884 ([166.41.253.40]) by yeti.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA31147 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:31:48 -0600 From: "David Nobles" To: Subject: RE: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah (with common goals) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:32:42 -0500 Message-ID: <008401bf2497$7be09280$28fd29a6@arl_6884.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199911011756.MAA29704@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having attempted to install Linux and FreeBSD unsuccessfully to date I would certainly vote for a more "plug n' play" type of configuration. My main motivation was to learn more about Unix and since the site that host my web site is on FreeBSD I thought that made the most sense. I don't have hours to play with this stuff so give me an easy, basic install. I can then take a little time each night or on the weekends to learn more as I expand on the basic configuration, change settings and add features. But right now all I have are Linux & FreeBSD CDs setting next to a box running Win98. I'd love to be able to spend the time RTFMs, Howtos, all the emails on the mailing lists, etc. but it's just not gonna happen right now. I don't think I'm alone in this. For those working with some flavor of Unix or looking to, they can find the block of time. Unfortunately IMHO your losing a large chunk of people, frustrated with Windows and curious about the alternatives. Just 2 cents from a newbie trying to get a basic system up so I can try the other things I read about on this list and learn more. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of FreeBSD Bob Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 12:57 PM To: iratus@home.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah (with common goals) > >> I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > >> joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > >> (although that method seems to work, too). > >What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure > >but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. I think this has merit. Something more that just a common Readme, but with some steering indications of what the basic system can do, and what it can do with added ``features'' as Blue is want to say. Some of that is done in various docs and readmes, but it seems a little scattered here and there. > >It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how > >and why this configuration was established in the first place. This is covered in the historical tidbits, but is, perhaps, not as well brought out to the newbie. The handbook provides some insights. > >Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your > >through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with > >it. There are lots of basic books, a fair number of BSD things, plus the cannonical BSD bibles from Berkeley, all of which are good reading. Sometimes, the newbie seems to have trouble finding it all or wading through it from the newbie perspective, since it was written for the professionals. > I really don't want to start a flame war but you might consider the > following since what you seek is there: The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, > almost any basic book on Unix as BSD is a well know unix version, the > FreeBSD handbook which is included with the various distributions (2.*, 3.* > etc), all of the man pages (though I agree they are a handful just to > interpret in some cases), if you are headed for guruhood a look at the > original 4.4BSD series is nice, and a search of Amazon.com will show you > more then I think just about anybody could remember. As an aside, if you > don't know what you have after you are done perhaps time with any of the > aforesaid books should be spent BEFORE you install. Its really all there if > you just look, though it has been my experiance that "handholding" is > probably in short supply though IMHO, this isn't that big a deal. Just my > 2cents worth. Jeff Phillips No flames, whatever. My ol' dusty, motheaten Inet Flak Suit probably would not even fit, anymore, as the ``wisdom of age'' has rather rotundified me innards, to put it mildly. The constructive discussion is what I am after. The FreeBSD handbook, is probably our cannon from which to start. Lehey's book is a close second. Manpages are never a place from which to start. They are a place from which to admin and userspeak, in currency. Something is needed a little before the manpages. The manpages are the cannon for the user and the admin, AFTER the machine is up and running, in real time. The Berkeley bibles, i.e., the smm/ps1/usd suite are usually written at a more professional level than Joe enduser has, although the usd sections (particularly 1) can be helpful. Many/most Joe endusers will have a hard time at a deeper level than that, unless they already come from a more experienced background, compared to the point+click kind. Still, I get a sense that, to put it all together, and it is a rightly complex matter for the newbie, one also needs some kind of a hands on system to paw with ALONGSIDE the cannon. For the sake of discussion, what pops to mind would be a rather limited system with only the basics for getting up a minimal machine, or a minimal machine with X (even that is probably more complicated than the newbie needs to start with), and then running through various scripts and the like to get the real-time feet wet. The system must be bulletproof, and come up on anything running dos/windoz, and allow controlled interactivity without nuking the original OS's (as good bad or ugly as they may be). This has to be a load and go type of thing that even the most geen newbie can get rolling, with minimal effort. In some respects, it almost becomes a distance education sort of thing, with remote-hands-on training. Then, when some minimal expertise is obtained, let the newbie out on the race track, to go it for real. In days past, we used to do that kind of thing by 1 on 1 mentoring around the consoles in a dark room, late at night. Nowadays, we need to adjust that approach for Joe enduser out in Timbuktu with only a 9.6K modem to a slow email-electronic mentor. Nowadays, the drop-in CD becomes the quasi-mentor. Good discussion, and I appreciate all those who contributed to it. Maybe some good will come of it...... Thanks Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10:36:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from console.prisa.com (gatekeeper.prisa.com [204.94.67.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 153B314D5B for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:36:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nschein@prisa.com) From: "Nathaniel Schein" To: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: Moving passwd file to another system Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:36:48 -0800 Message-ID: <1040bc3f05ac5c68474bace45de7ea67381dddc7@(null)> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have moved the master.passwd file from a FreeBSD 2.1.0 system to a FreeBSD 3.3 system and all seems to work fine. Users can login with no problem, but in closer inspection I notice that accounts manually moved but which have the same passwd and the root user's passwd(which has not changed) hash are different on each system. Does anyone know the reason for this? If the one way crypt has changed how can the old master.passwd file satisfactorily be pasted into the new one? Nathaniel Schein System Administrator mailto:nschein@prisa.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 10:44:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A5014BD7 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:44:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D36@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Alaric & Tammy' Cc: "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: cant install your easy to install os Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:47:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Honestly I'm not sure. Is anything else on this drive other than BSD? If not try disabling the LBA and see if it helps. And again, during the installation, are there any error messages listed when you press ALT-F4? What do you mean, the drive is the only drive BSD won't boot from? The reason it won't boot is because the kernel is never written to the disk. It's not so much a booting problem, as it is a problem with the install not being to install properly in the 1st place. Also, PLEASE cc: any replies to Questions@FreeBSD.Org as someone else may notice something I don't. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Alaric & Tammy [SMTP:apratt@crcwnet.crcwnet.com] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 1:33 PM > To: Christopher Michaels > Subject: Re: cant install your easy to install os > > Thanks for your Help > Yes the partition is in the 1st 1024 but I have BIOS set to LBA could the > LBA Be causing the Write problem. > I am Starting the install process from the floppy boot I have made > several > sets and have tried two different cd sets from walnut creek freebsd 2.2.6 > and 2.2.7. So I doubt if the both cds are bad. Does bsd have any > problems > writing to the MBR if there is already something on it or does it just > overwrite what ever is there? The hard drive is only drive were bsd will > not > boot from. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Michaels > To: 'Alaric & Tammy' > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 6:09 AM > Subject: RE: cant install your easy to install os > > > > Um.. there's a search engine at http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/ > > > > Where is the partition located on the hd, that you are installing to? > is > it > > in the 1st 1024 cylinders? (probably but I'm asking). > > > > Are you using floppies, or are you booting from the CDROM? If you are > using > > floppies, make a new set, the ones you have may be bad. If you are > booting > > from CDROM, the cd may be bad. > > > > When all this happens (error messages) what does it say on the screen if > you > > press ALT-F4? > > > > Hopefully some of these questions will help troubleshoot why you are > having > > trouble installing FreeBSD. > > > > -Chris > > > > P.S. Please CC: all replies to the mailing list. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alaric & Tammy [SMTP:apratt@crcwnet.crcwnet.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:55 PM > > > To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: cant install your easy to install os > > > > > > I am bought the four disk set and the book from walnut creek. The book > is > > > not very much help execpt for line alot of people just give up on > > > installing feebsd, and on the front of the book it says easy to > intall. > > > I have spent on you guys an have no got much out it. I need some help! > > > > > > I get the message "write failure on transfer every so often". > > > But at the end I get the message "can't find kernal image to link on > the > > > root file system." You are going to have a hard time booting the hard > > > drive > > > I am afraid. Then when I try to start the system I get to the prompt > > > "F1...BSD" > > > "EFUALT F?" > > > I Press F1 and get the message > > > "cant find kernal" > > > > > > then the message > > > "then I get the message Boot default: 0:wd(0,a)kernal" > > > over and over and over and over etc. > > > I tried to install the the system six times today and the day is over. > I > > > am > > > ready to give up. > > > It Gives me the "can't find kernal image to link on the root file > system." > > > You are going to have a hard time booting the hard drive I am afraid." > at > > > the end of a long install. > > > Where can I find some documentaion on this problem and how to fix it? > You > > > dont have a search engine like novells tech assistance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 11:26:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web1705.mail.yahoo.com (web1705.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC80E14F16 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:26:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjarrow3@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991101193214.7133.rocketmail@web1705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.31.97.178] by web1705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:32:14 PST Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) From: Godzilla Subject: re: error message To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Godzilla writes: > >> We are running FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE as a SOCKS proxy >> server and mail server. This morning when I came in, >> I found the following error message: >> >> Oct 29 11:22:11 SMTP named[30752]: bind(dfd=20, >> [192.168.4.9].53): Address already in use > >It seems that you're trying to run two simultaneous >copies of named, or >that before named starts some other program has bound >port 53 in all >your interfaces. Since named is one the few programs >I know that bind >port 53 in *all* interfaces by default, check to see >if your startup >scripts are trying to run named twice! duh. that was it exactly. Thanks for your help. T.J. Arrowsmith tarrowsmith@amicapital.com ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 11:54: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178F714A2F for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:53:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11iNWf-000OKR-00; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:53:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA46652 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:53:53 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:53:53 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup and ports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to make sure: if i have 'ports-all' in my cvsup config file, only the ports i have installed will have the source updated, correct? The others will only have the stubs and makefiles updated, correct? -jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 11:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFB614A2F for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:54:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA32123; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:52:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Taylor To: J McKitrick Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: debug kernel size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, J McKitrick wrote: > I've seen some posts here to the effect that there is no need to strip > debug info from a kernel, because this info is not loaded into memory. > But somewhere in Lehey's book, i thought i saw a statement that the > symbols ARE loaded into memory to allow debugging, and so they DO take > up system resources. WHich is true? p.s. I'll keep looking for that > statement, i thought i found it but it was the wrong one... ELF kernels do not load the debug info. The old a.out kernels did. Seems like Greg is right both times. (he was the one who mentioned the ELF kernel bit in this list recently) Brett ***************************************************** Dr. Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics * Walker 234 (540) 831-5410 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 11:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from D2SI.COM (D2SI.COM [63.224.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33E814A2F for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:54:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajk@paw-in-eye.net) Received: (from ajk@localhost) by D2SI.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05346; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:54:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ajk) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199911011954.NAA05346@D2SI.COM> Subject: Re: Reverse DNS lookup In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991031213125.009407e0@mail.udel.edu> from John at "Oct 31, 1999 9:33:50 pm" To: papalia@UDel.Edu (John) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:54:03 -0600 (CST) Cc: dan@dpcsys.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John said: > > > >> merlin# nslookup 63.224.53.3 > >> Server: copland.udel.edu > >> Address: 128.175.xx.xx > >> *** copland.udel.edu can't find 63.224.53.3: Non-existent host/domain > > > >That's cause there is no reverse for that IP. It's from a /25 subnet > >and US West probably doesn't delegate less than a /24 for in-addr.arpa Actually, they do, but they're not doing it exactly in line with the RFC for reasons involving their internal DNS management software. I had to get a friend of mine who works there to set it up. They use NS records on each address to point it to your own nameservers. Check out 63.224.10.1. It does appear that 63.224.53.3 is not assigned a reverse. > Could you do me a favor and explain all that? I have no idea what /25 > subnet and in-addr.arpa actually mean :) /25 subnet means the first 25 bits of the address correspond to a network and the last 7 correspond to a particular node on that network. Once upon a time, it was assumed that addresses less than 127.0.0.0 were /8 (aka. Class A), but this is no longer true. It appears that Network Solutions divided 63.x.x.x into /12 Default Server: localhost.d2si.com Address: 127.0.0.1 > set type=ptr > 224.63.in-addr.arpa Server: localhost.d2si.com Address: 127.0.0.1 224.63.in-addr.arpa origin = ns1.uswest.net mail addr = hostmaster.uswest.net serial = 318 refresh = 28800 (8H) retry = 7200 (2H) expire = 604800 (1W) minimum ttl = 86400 (1D) > 63.in-addr.arpa Server: localhost.d2si.com Address: 127.0.0.1 Authoritative answers can be found from: IN-ADDR.arpa origin = A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET mail addr = hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET serial = 1999110102 refresh = 1800 (30M) retry = 900 (15M) expire = 604800 (1W) minimum ttl = 86400 (1D) The in-addr.arpa DNS domain is used for reverse lookups. The idea is that reverse lookups should be delegated like forward ones are, in a hierarchical fashion. So, to find the name for a given address, you follow a hierarchy like this: arpa contains in-addr contains 63 contains 224 contains 53 contains 3, so you construct a DNS query for the name 3.53.224.63.in-addr.arpa. Also, note that you are looking for a particular type of record, a PTR record, so you should tell nslookup that using set type=ptr The problem with the above hierarchical scheme is that authority for reverse lookups no longer necessarily falls at the dots. So, the original scheme assumed that every address like 63.224.53.* was controlled by the same entity. It is becoming increasingly common for this not to be the case, so USWest is using a NS record to delegate the responsibility, like this: ajk@hamlet ~% nslookup Default Server: localhost.d2si.com Address: 127.0.0.1 > server ns1.uswest.net Default Server: ns1.uswest.net Address: 204.147.80.5 > set type=ns > 1.10.224.63.in-addr.arpa Server: ns1.uswest.net Address: 204.147.80.5 Non-authoritative answer: 1.10.224.63.in-addr.arpa nameserver = hamlet.d2si.com 1.10.224.63.in-addr.arpa nameserver = othello.d2si.com Authoritative answers can be found from: hamlet.d2si.com internet address = 63.224.10.2 othello.d2si.com internet address = 63.224.10.1 > 3.53.224.63.in-addr.arpa Server: ns1.uswest.net Address: 204.147.80.5 *** ns1.uswest.net can't find 3.53.224.63.in-addr.arpa: Non-existent host/domain They clearly have not set this up yet for whoever this 63.224.53.3 box is. > And if that's the case (above) then that might be the problem on all my > reverse lookups that go bad. In essence all the problems I'm having are > with people using their desktops at work who ssh into my box. But when I > try out nslookup on servers from, for example, my old ISP, it works fine > both ways. If you're saying that your old ISPs nameservers can resolve 63.224.53.3, they have probably assumed control of the network erronously. If I am correct, your school should be able to resolve 63.224.10.1 (it can) but your old ISP will probably NOT be able to resolve 63.224.10.1. Hope this helps clear things up a bit. > Thanks again!!! > --John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 11:59:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CDA14FF6 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:59:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D37@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'J McKitrick' Cc: "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: cvsup and ports Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:02:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nooo.. if you have ports-all installed all of the stuff under /usr/ports/ as far as patches and makefiles and etc... New distfiles will not be download, nothing on the installed system will be changed. You have to manually reinstall any ports that have been updated. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: J McKitrick [SMTP:jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 2:54 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: cvsup and ports > > Just to make sure: if i have 'ports-all' in my cvsup config file, only the > ports i have installed will have the source updated, correct? The others > will only have the stubs and makefiles updated, correct? > > -jm > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12: 8: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeside.fc.net (freeside.fc.net [207.170.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE22150A2 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:07:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdunham@freeside.fc.net) Received: (from jdunham@localhost) by freeside.fc.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA41384; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:07:09 -0600 (CST) From: Jerry Dunham Message-Id: <199911012007.OAA41384@freeside.fc.net> Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-Reply-To: <000f01bf2431$d68808a0$6c9ac5d1@01031149> from Duke Normandin at "Oct 31, 1999 10:22:48 pm" To: 01031149@3web.net (Duke Normandin) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:07:09 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Duke Normandin babbled: > From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0800 > I'm a 52yr old newbie --- worse I don't know jack-shit about FreeBSD or any > *nix for that matter. So please take my following observations in that > context. It is NOT my intention to disparage anyone. I'm a 53-year-old sorta-newbie, so I've got you beat by a year. :-) > I have wanted to learn Unix all this time. > But guys, to launch myself in this new caper, "I simply want to know the > time, NOT how to make a watch" -- if you get my meaning. Personally, being a > tinkerer, I'll definitely want to know "how to make that watch" -- but > later, when I'm comfortable "telling time". When you guys first started > driving cars, where you all in a position to set the valve timing, the > ignition timing, etc. Can you guys NOW overhaul your fuel injectors and tune > your high-tech engines. Do you want to know how? Do you care? I like this guy. He just wrote what I was about to write, but much better. The problem I'm having with this thread is that it seems to segregate users into two camps: people like my wife, who has trouble turning on a Windoze machine, and people like Greg Lehey, who wrote the book on FreeBSD. Well, we're not all either sysadmins or double-clicking idiots. Here in the middle are people like Duke, who just wants to learn a bit about UNIX, and people like me. I'm a (ab)user, not an admin. I primarily want to use my system to get work done. The more I learn about the valve timing and the ignition along the way the better, but I'm NOT sitting here because I want to become a mechanic or admin. Should I therefore be condemned to the instability and poor performance of Windoze? You tell me to RTFM. I really don't mind doing that, but I have two problems: some of the man pages are NOT written for the uninitiated, and many times I don't know really where to start looking. If I were wanting to become an admin that wouldn't really matter; I'd simply start wading into Greg's book and the archives until something clicked. Mostly I just don't have time for that, and I think it's unreasonable to expect Joe User in general to have that much immediately available time. Do you as a group really want to divide users into two camps: FreeBSD sysadmins, and Windoze lusers? Should those of us who simply want a nonfragile system to get personal work done all move to Linux? FWIW, I came to FreeBSD from the Atari ST, by way of Xenix, so I'm another with no MS-DOS background. I do run WinNT on my notebook, but that's be- cause my employer requires that I run SOME form of Windoze, and NT is at least reasonably robust for a single user, even if the performance isn't anything to write home about. I've used mechanical CAD on HP-UX, SunOS, and IRIX, but even there I was just a user, with just a driver's license, not a mechanics' certification. I don't want to race; I just want to drive to the grocery store, but I'd like to get home again without a crash. -- Jerry Dunham FreeBSD Atarian ordinaire jdunham@fc.net (512)335-0674 (H) jdunham@avalanche.us.dell.com (512)728-4026 (O) E Pluribus Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:10:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logisticsoftware.co.nz (logisticsoftware.co.nz [202.37.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4357615049 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by logisticsoftware.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02673; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:09:16 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:09:16 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Vadim Vitebsky Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/run/utmp In-Reply-To: <01be62fa$e7b075c0$0301a8c0@vadim.vhi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Vadim Vitebsky wrote: > >What is your output for: > > > >ls -lo /var/run/utmp > >and > >ls -ldo /var/run > > > >thanks, > >-Alfred > > Output for ls -lo /var/run/utmp: cr- - - -x-wT 1 789129520 1631723562 > uchg, arch, schg, sunlnk 32, 0x7830002b Feb 21 2012 /var/run/utmp This is odd. /var/run/utmp should be a file, and *not* a character device - that's why you're getting "device not configured" problems. You should be able to remove it and try a reboot. Jonathan Chen --------------------------------------------------------------------- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:15:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nic.mco.net (nic.mco.net [209.205.43.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB770152AD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjones@real.on.ca) Received: from zigzag (zigzag.mco.net [209.167.186.150]) by nic.mco.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA16236 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:15:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <016801bf24a5$d3c3ede0$96baa7d1@zigzag.mco.net> From: "Mark Jones" To: Subject: scorpion 96 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:15:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone used a Seagate scorpion 96 dat drive under freebsd before? The probes seem to recognize it but I can't get any software to use it. Help! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:17:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008E2152C6 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com ([199.103.141.157]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29949; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:46:50 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101135438.34003@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:54:38 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Ben Smithurst , Scott Worthington Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Location of vinum /var/tmp/vinum_history Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <19991030164832.A12516@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <19991030164832.A12516@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from Ben Smithurst on Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 04:48:32PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 30 October 1999 at 16:48:32 +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Scott Worthington wrote: > >> Okay, I see that you can set the environment >> variable VINUM_HISTORY to point to the >> correct location of the file. >> >> How do you set an environment variable at boot >> time? I am assuming that at boot up the vinum >> module reads VINUM_HISTORY. > > You should be able to put it in /etc/rc.conf, e.g. > > VINUM_HISTORY=/foo; export VINUM_HISTORY > > though I have never tried this, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Yes, that should work, modulo location. You shouldn't put it in /etc/rc.conf, though: first, you shouldn't change that, and secondly it would only apply to the startup if you put it there. Try /etc/profile instead. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:17:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D328152AD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:17:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com ([199.103.141.157]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29940; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:46:25 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101135818.37008@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:58:18 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Ronald Hewitt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wanting to set up a Porn site Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <000201bf2309$09d512e0$03000004@ladsn1.sc.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <000201bf2309$09d512e0$03000004@ladsn1.sc.home.com>; from Ronald Hewitt on Sat, Oct 30, 1999 at 02:46:32PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Saturday, 30 October 1999 at 14:46:32 -0400, Ronald Hewitt wrote: > I am a 51 year old Male and was wondering if it is possable to get a > Porn site server with you and if so what is the cost? Wanting to do > this for extra Income and am very new at this. I am using a Pentum > II 333MHZ 64 Meg Ram with 10 gig HD. and am interested in setting > this up for commerchal value please contact me with any info you can > get me. Allso on a Digetal Cabel Modem. As others have obvserved, we're not in the porn business. It's true that a number of porn sites use FreeBSD, but they have their own staff. I don't know much about the details, but I'd guess that you'd need quite a business plan to be successful in the Internet porn business. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:31:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF0815321 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991029141523.01932@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:15:23 -0400 From: Greg Lehey To: "Oles' Hnatkevych" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel sources References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Oles' Hnatkevych on Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 11:29:14AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 29 October 1999 at 11:29:14 +0300, Oles' Hnatkevych wrote: > Hello! > > What direcories in /usr/src are essential to build the kernel > except the sys directory? /usr/src/sys is all you need. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:31:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFA315305; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991029142543.26735@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:25:43 -0400 From: Greg Lehey To: Robert Watson , FreeBSD Hackers , committers@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com Subject: Re: gdb and kld symbols -- how to (and handbook is outdated) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Watson on Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 09:05:15AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 29 October 1999 at 9:05:15 -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > > I've mostly debugged kernel modules running as lkm's, but decided to start > up my debugger on code in a kld a couple of days, and needless to say the > procedure is different :-). And unfortunately, also not documented in the > handbook online, which still talks about lkms. Any suggestions? It is > presumably still add-symbol-file, but with a different offset? > > Also, it might be desirable to either extend the handbook to also talk > about klds, or to replace it with a kld page. This questions qualifies as "in-depth technical", so I'm moving it to -hackers. If you're not signed up there, you should be. I'm also copying -committers because it's probably of interest there. The object you need is in /modules. For example, to debug the Linux kld, you need to load the symbols from /modules/linux.ko. That's the easy part. The difficult part is to find the base address. I have this in /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit.vinum.paths: define asf set $file = linker_files.tqh_first set $found = 0 while ($found == 0) if (*$file->filename == 'v') set $found = 1 else set $file = $file->link.tqe_next end end shell /usr/bin/objdump --section-headers /modules/vinum.ko | grep ' .text' | awk '{print "add-symbol-file /modules/vinum.ko \$file->address+0x" $4}' > .asf source .asf end This goes through an internal kernel list and looks for a module name which begins with 'v'; you'll need to change the first "if" statement to something which uniquely matches your kld. The rest (modulo file names, which I have omitted here) should stay the same. There's also more information in vinum(4). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:32:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0170E154C7 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991028143848.50705@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:38:48 -0400 From: Greg Lehey To: GVB Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question regarding IO References: <4.2.1.19991025143751.017b2af0@abused.com> <4.2.1.19991025143751.017b2af0@abused.com> <19991026222942.39556@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> <4.2.1.19991028113702.017dfed0@mail.tns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4.2.1.19991028113702.017dfed0@mail.tns.net>; from GVB on Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 11:38:08AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Thursday, 28 October 1999 at 11:38:08 -0700, GVB wrote: > At 10:29 PM 10/26/1999 -0400, you wrote: >> When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. >> For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html >> >> On Monday, 25 October 1999 at 14:48:01 -0700, GVB wrote: >>> I am running a small ISP 100% on FreeBSD. I wanted to add a level of >>> redundancy to our mail server so I purchased the Raidstation3 kit from DPT >>> which includes an external 3 bay drive enclosure and a PCI raid >>> controller. I populated the controller with 64 megs of ram and popped in 3 >>> Ultra2 10,000rpm Seagate Cheetah drives. I built the raid and mounted the >>> two partitions as /var/mail and /var/spool/mail. I now get strange >>> unresponsive timeouts from the machine at random times.. this is what >>> iostat looks like when the machine is unresponsive, sometimes up to 10 >>> seconds at a time. This was not happening before installing this RAID so >>> it leads me to believe that the file system is the problem. >>> >>> tty da0 da1 da2 >> cpu >>> tin tout KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id >>> 0 76 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 64.00 1 0.06 5 0 1 15 79 >>> >>> What does the KB/t mean, >> >> It's the average size of the transfers. FreeBSD is limited to 128 >> kB/t, but in practice never goes beyond 64 kB. >> >>> it seems that it never gets past 64 and when it hits 64 the machine >>> becomes unresponsive. >> >> This might be a DPT problem. >> >>> Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated. >> >> What are the *relevant* lines of your dmesg output? What kind of DPT >> controller do you have? It may be that it's not handling 64 kB >> transfers correctly. > > Hey, I really appreciate the help.. just had a quick question regarding > dmesg. Is there a way to get the original bootup/hardware scan information > from dmesg without rebooting? Yes. I suppose I should add this to the FAQ. It's stored in /var/run/dmesg.boot. > Seems my dmesg buffer has filled up with other things (ARP > conflicts, core dumps, etc..). Yup, that happens. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 12:33:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB6215709 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991027205822.00427@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:58:22 -0400 From: Greg Lehey To: Broderick Wood , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSUP and Make World References: <199910272212.QAA00274@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199910272212.QAA00274@mark.kingsu.ab.ca>; from Broderick Wood on Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 03:33:54PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 27 October 1999 at 15:33:54 -0600, Broderick Wood wrote: > I CVSUP the system and ports on a weekly basis and do a make > buildworld after each system CVSUP. How often would you > recommend doing the make installworld? As often as needed. I track -CURRENT (judging by your choice of forum, you don't), and I have a cron job which updates the respository every morning at 6 am. I build worlds less often, but that way I can do it at any time it occurs to me without first having to wait for the CVSup to complete. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 13: 7:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com (mojave.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC5714CC1 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:07:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101145247.56786@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:52:47 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: J McKitrick , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: debug kernel size Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from J McKitrick on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 06:01:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 1 November 1999 at 18:01:40 +0000, J McKitrick wrote: > I've seen some posts here to the effect that there is no need to strip > debug info from a kernel, because this info is not loaded into memory. > But somewhere in Lehey's book, i thought i saw a statement that the > symbols ARE loaded into memory to allow debugging, and so they DO take up > system resources. WHich is true? Both :-) > p.s. I'll keep looking for that statement, i thought i found it > but it was the wrong one... Tell me when you find it, and I'll remove it. The statement (if it's there) was true when I wrote it (when we had a.out kernels), but it no longer applies to elf kernels. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 13:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trill.hh.se (trill.hh.se [194.47.5.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0E514E64 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:39:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from u98jobj@stud.hh.se) Received: from gs177 (klart@gs177.gsten.hh.se [194.47.16.177]) by trill.hh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA08335 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:36:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002801bf24b1$8f4c0b00$b1102fc2@gsten.hh.se> From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9lbCBCavZyaw==?= To: Subject: Error in The complete FreeBSD Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:39:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF24B9.F0E5B980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF24B9.F0E5B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following step also needs to be taken in order to properly link /tmp = to /usr/tmp as described on page 88 chmod 1777 /usr/tmp or your users won't be able to write in /tmp / Joel Bjork ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF24B9.F0E5B980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The following step also needs to be = taken in order=20 to properly link /tmp to /usr/tmp as described on page 88
 
chmod 1777 /usr/tmp
 
or your users won't be able to write in = /tmp
 
/ Joel Bjork
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BF24B9.F0E5B980-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 13:48:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB65152AD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:48:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11iPJC-0001gh-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:48:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:48:08 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: make release fails at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/grep/doc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Both RELENG_3 as well as a current make release stop at: ===> gnu/usr.bin/grep/doc sflag=`grep -q ^INFO-DIR-SECTION grep.info || echo 1`; eflag=`grep -q ^START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY grep.info || echo 1`; install-info ${sflag:+--section="System Utilities"} ${eflag:+--entry=} grep.info /reserve/usr/share/info/dir grep: grep.info: No such file or directory grep: grep.info: No such file or directory install-info: No such file or directory for grep.info *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/grep/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/grep. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. Any ideas/suggestions/criticism? I cvsupped an hour ago and did a "cvs update src" in /usr against my repository in /home/ncvs. TIA! Marc Marc Schneiders || In re tam justa || nulla est deliberatio! marc@venster.nl || marc@oldserver.demon.nl || Acta SS. MM. Scillitanorum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 13:56:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com (mojave.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADC614F4D for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:56:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Message-ID: <19991101153424.19687@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:34:24 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Brent , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: raid controler Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Brent on Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 10:24:54PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 29 October 1999 at 22:24:54 -0500, Brent wrote: > I am building a new server and I would like to put raid into it. I > have looked at dpt controlers, and noticed the price. > > 1. Is there any other controlers that work with freebsd? Mike Smith is adding support for a whole slew of controllers for 4.0. > 2. What dpt controler should I get? Smart RAID VI? I don't think there is a VI. We currently only support the III and IV, both of which are somewhat dated. Support is under way for the V, but no date is available yet. In the meantime, consider using Vinum. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14: 7:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vitoria.ddsecurity.com.br (vitoria.ddsecurity.com.br [200.18.130.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F018C14E2A for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:07:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@ddsecurity.com.br) Received: (qmail 41863 invoked from network); 1 Nov 1999 22:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ddsecurity.com.br) (200.236.148.105) by vitoria.ddsecurity.com.br with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 22:05:32 -0000 Message-ID: <381E0E86.82E07868@ddsecurity.com.br> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:04:54 -0200 From: Gustavo V G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IDE ZIP DRIVE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to set my IDE ZIP Drive (which is connected to Secondary Slave Dev). The problem, is that altough i commented out the wdc1 line in my kerel config file. Here it goes: controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 The problem is that my freebsd box cannot see my wdc1 device, here is what o get from my dmesg output: ... wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): < 34X CD-ROM/VER 1.D1>, removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 687 - 3781KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked wdc1 not found at 0x170 ... Can anyone here explian me *PLEASE* what is going on ? PS: From Linux/Win is works well. So where is my mistaken ? -- Message of the day: The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:13:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chiba.3jane.net (chiba.3jane.net [207.170.70.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66314E2A for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damon@chiba.3jane.net) Received: from chiba.3jane.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chiba.3jane.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28381 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:13:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199911012213.QAA28381@chiba.3jane.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:07:09 CST." <199911012007.OAA41384@freeside.fc.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:13:16 -0600 From: "Damon M. Conway" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hey jerry. how goes it? Jerry Dunham wrote: > Duke Normandin babbled: > > From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> > > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0800 > > > I'm a 52yr old newbie --- worse I don't know jack-shit about FreeBSD or any > > *nix for that matter. So please take my following observations in that > > context. It is NOT my intention to disparage anyone. > > I'm a 53-year-old sorta-newbie, so I've got you beat by a year. :-) > > > I have wanted to learn Unix all this time. > > But guys, to launch myself in this new caper, "I simply want to know the > > time, NOT how to make a watch" -- if you get my meaning. Personally, being > a > > tinkerer, I'll definitely want to know "how to make that watch" -- but > > later, when I'm comfortable "telling time". When you guys first started > > driving cars, where you all in a position to set the valve timing, the > > ignition timing, etc. Can you guys NOW overhaul your fuel injectors and tun > e > > your high-tech engines. Do you want to know how? Do you care? > > I like this guy. He just wrote what I was about to write, but much better. ain't that always the way? > The problem I'm having with this thread is that it seems to segregate > users into two camps: people like my wife, who has trouble turning on > a Windoze machine, and people like Greg Lehey, who wrote the book on > FreeBSD. Well, we're not all either sysadmins or double-clicking idiots. > Here in the middle are people like Duke, who just wants to learn a bit > about UNIX, and people like me. yep. i'll agree with that. > I'm a (ab)user, not an admin. I primarily want to use my system to get > work done. The more I learn about the valve timing and the ignition along > the way the better, but I'm NOT sitting here because I want to become a > mechanic or admin. Should I therefore be condemned to the instability and > poor performance of Windoze? > > You tell me to RTFM. I really don't mind doing that, but I have two > problems: some of the man pages are NOT written for the uninitiated, and > many times I don't know really where to start looking. If I were wanting > to become an admin that wouldn't really matter; I'd simply start wading > into Greg's book and the archives until something clicked. Mostly I just > don't have time for that, and I think it's unreasonable to expect Joe User > in general to have that much immediately available time. that is exactly the point of view that created the parc project that mac and microsoft stole from. :) > Do you as a group really want to divide users into two camps: FreeBSD > sysadmins, and Windoze lusers? Should those of us who simply want a > nonfragile system to get personal work done all move to Linux? no, and my personal opinion is that *bsd, linux, and *nix in general will have a very difficult time reaching the masses of windoze users. i can barely get my mom to write email and type a letter in word much less login to a worstation, and run a unix system. as much as we all like to think that pretty guis will make it easy for normal users, it won't. freebsd is closest to making that happen because of the unified devel effort that keeps the system clean. freebsd has consistent interfaces and libs which is alot more than i can say for linux. linux has the apps tho, and bsd gets them eventually, but everything new happens on linux so it's the best choice for a desktop because most of the new stuff is for desktops. however, the baggage of unix is still there on both systems, and that will never go away. personally, if it wasn't for the lack of apps, i'd put my money on beos as the next big desktop. personally, i use linux as my desktop and freebsd as my servers. linux is on the cutting edge and delivering me what i want in a desktop, but then again, i'm an admin. until kernels don't need to be recompiled to add features, users don't have to login to get work done (try explaining root to an average windows user some time), standard libs and interfaces for desktop/application programming, and ease of installation of new applications (ports are nice, but try getting my mom to install one) windoze will remain the king of the desktop. the philosophy of unix is just all wrong for an average user. > FWIW, I came to FreeBSD from the Atari ST, by way of Xenix, so I'm another > with no MS-DOS background. I do run WinNT on my notebook, but that's be- > cause my employer requires that I run SOME form of Windoze, and NT is at > least reasonably robust for a single user, even if the performance isn't > anything to write home about. I've used mechanical CAD on HP-UX, SunOS, > and IRIX, but even there I was just a user, with just a driver's license, > not a mechanics' certification. I don't want to race; I just want to > drive to the grocery store, but I'd like to get home again without a > crash. give it time. someday, someone will see that forcing unix onto the desktop is pointless for 99% of the people out there, and come up with something else. beos has the right idea tho. take the unix kernel, strip all the user interfaces out of it, and write your own from scratch. now you have a system that's stable, fast (off to click in 7 secs on my box), and easy to use. however, apps are the key, and the only way to get those today is to open source your os to attract developers to it. this would be my advice to be. damon -- Damon Conway Black Rock City Ranger...Riding the edge of chaos "Ana Ng and I are getting old, but we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence." -- TMBG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:18:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from athserv.otenet.gr (athserv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EC115047 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a092.otenet.gr [195.167.115.92]) by athserv.otenet.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA06592 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:18:26 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 2599 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Nov 1999 12:11:36 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right References: <000f01bf2431$d68808a0$6c9ac5d1@01031149> From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 01 Nov 1999 14:11:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Duke Normandin"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0800" Message-ID: <86zowyza14.fsf@localhost.hell.gr> Lines: 55 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "20 Minutes to Nikko" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> writes: > Unfortunately, it's ALL a question of marketing and PR. And how far into the ease-of-use thing one will get to go, before all things start to get more stupid than fast or stable. I am not suggesting that anyone is stupid for using this OS or the other, but I truly believe that it's difficult to make a "program", in the general sense of the word, to be both one-click-easy and stable as a rock. Then again, it might be that I am a lousy programmer. > The proof is staring us all in the face --- a marginal product > (windoze vis-a-vis FBSD) has made it huge worlwide. Everything depends on what target-group one has. Windows are aiming to the "newbie" masses, whose motto is "just get my work done" (a fairly long discussion of the subject might prove that in the long run they *don't* get their job done, but that's another thing). Windows has managed to convince a large crowd that they are easy to use, just because they have a point-and-click interface. And MS was truly great in using that marketting thing to make this happen. > Linux is making huge headway. Linux is in a fuzzy state, and there is not a common consensus as to "which users are we aiming to?" An operating system and assorted tools that aim to both the SA folks and the average John Newbie user is very difficult to make. > FBSD will *never* evangelise and convert the masses unless it does > likewise -- but better. The question is: do we *want* the masses to run FreeBSD? And I really mean it. FreeBSD is great for me, but I was lucky enough to learn SunOS 4.3 on a VT-100 terminal, long before I got my hands on any DOS-based computer. Some things might come naturally to me, but to the masses... well, I don't know. > Here's a golden opportunity to take the wind out of both Windoze and > Linux's sails. You're probably on the wrong path of the source, Luke. Trying to take the "wind" of others sails is not the way a Jendi knight is supposed to live for. We're not using and/ror contributing to FreeBSD because we want it to overhaul and destroy Windows, or Linux for that matter. We're using FreeBSD because we like those little details that make the difference. You got to love Unix to be able to use FreBSD effectively :-) -- Giorgos Keramidas, "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:18:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from athserv.otenet.gr (athserv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689831524B for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a092.otenet.gr [195.167.115.92]) by athserv.otenet.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA06593 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:18:26 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 2816 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Nov 1999 14:06:43 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Top 10 posters, since October 22, 1999 From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 01 Nov 1999 16:06:42 +0200 Message-ID: <86n1sye26l.fsf@localhost.hell.gr> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "20 Minutes to Nikko" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, seems I got too bored today and I made this little top 10 list of the most frequent posters in freebsd-questions. Here it goes... ________________________________________________________________________ POS POSTINGS POSTERS 1 58 J McKitrick 2 41 Alfred Perlstein 3 31 Jason C. Wells 4 23 Sheldon Hearn, Gene Harris 5 21 Giorgos Keramidas 6 19 Greg Lehey 7 12 ATeslik@aol.com 8 11 Jaime Kikpole, David Scheidt 9 10 Mark Ovens, Erik Stainsby, Dan Nelson, \ Christopher Michaels 10 9 Trevor Johnson, Kevin Street ________________________________________________________________________ Of course, all this was done without making any effort to find the signal/noise ratio in all the postings, which is probably wrong. If this is not too much of an annoyance, maybe I will start keeping a few statistics of the list, and post an almost monthly report of what I've come up with. That, of course, if I'm not causing useless and totally uninteresting traffic. Regards, -- Giorgos Keramidas, "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:29:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx.emailqueue.net (mx0.emailqueue.net [209.240.140.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A08E14A0E for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@cyalchemy.com) Received: from mx0.emailqueue.net (209.75.4.19) by mx.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA75861; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:29:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@cyalchemy.com) Received: from ben ([63.70.222.240]) by mx0.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA92514; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:29:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991101152618.0098f340@mail.cyalchemy.com> X-Sender: bs@mail.cyalchemy.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 15:28:59 -0700 To: Gustavo V G C Rios , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ben Schumacher Subject: Re: IDE ZIP DRIVE In-Reply-To: <381E0E86.82E07868@ddsecurity.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IDE Zip Drives (at least my IDE Zip drive) are supported using the IDE Floppy device. Make sure you have these lines in your kernel configuration: options ATAPI options ATAPI_STATIC device wfd0 Then you should be able to access your zip drive using /dev/wfd0 Hope this helps, - Ben Schumacher At 08:04 PM 11/1/99 -0200, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote: >I am trying to set my IDE ZIP Drive (which is connected to Secondary >Slave Dev). > >The problem, is that altough i commented out the wdc1 line in my kerel >config file. >Here it goes: > >controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 > > >The problem is that my freebsd box cannot see my wdc1 device, here is >what o get from my dmesg output: > > >... >wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa >wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): >wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S >wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): < 34X CD-ROM/VER 1.D1>, removable, accel, dma, >iordy >acd0: drive speed 687 - 3781KB/sec, 128KB cache >acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track >acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels >acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked >wdc1 not found at 0x170 >... > >Can anyone here explian me *PLEASE* what is going on ? > > >PS: From Linux/Win is works well. So where is my mistaken ? > > >-- >Message of the day: > > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody >appreciates how difficult it was. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yeti.host4u.net (yeti.host4u.net [209.150.128.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3684314A0E for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DNobles@dnobles.com) Received: from arl_6884 ([166.41.253.40]) by yeti.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26247 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:34:31 -0600 From: "David Nobles" To: Subject: RE: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:35:35 -0500 Message-ID: <00a401bf24b9$6a1b58b0$28fd29a6@arl_6884.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <86zowyza14.fsf@localhost.hell.gr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let me try this again. I'm not advocating a point and click FreeBSD. My choice of the phrase "Plug n Play" was unfortunate. Give me a script, rpm whatever you want to call it that will get me the basic core up and running so I can start learning. I'm not opposed to reading, tinkering, etc. but simply can devote a large chunk of time nightly to this right now. Give me a running basic system and I'll spend an hour a night figuring things out. Kinda hard tune a car, let alone become a mechanic if the car doesn't have an engine. It's not that I haven't tried. I've try installing FreeBSD and it wouldn't recognize my CD-ROM. Changed it from slave to master and now it won't recognize the floppy so I've actually backpedaled. This list is great and I'd love to try the many things I'm reading about but I seem to be stuck in neutral. Just my opinion for what it's worth. David Nobles (DNobles@dnobles.com) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> writes: > Unfortunately, it's ALL a question of marketing and PR. And how far into the ease-of-use thing one will get to go, before all things start to get more stupid than fast or stable. I am not suggesting that anyone is stupid for using this OS or the other, but I truly believe that it's difficult to make a "program", in the general sense of the word, to be both one-click-easy and stable as a rock. Then again, it might be that I am a lousy programmer. > The proof is staring us all in the face --- a marginal product > (windoze vis-a-vis FBSD) has made it huge worlwide. Everything depends on what target-group one has. Windows are aiming to the "newbie" masses, whose motto is "just get my work done" (a fairly long discussion of the subject might prove that in the long run they *don't* get their job done, but that's another thing). Windows has managed to convince a large crowd that they are easy to use, just because they have a point-and-click interface. And MS was truly great in using that marketting thing to make this happen. > Linux is making huge headway. Linux is in a fuzzy state, and there is not a common consensus as to "which users are we aiming to?" An operating system and assorted tools that aim to both the SA folks and the average John Newbie user is very difficult to make. > FBSD will *never* evangelise and convert the masses unless it does > likewise -- but better. The question is: do we *want* the masses to run FreeBSD? And I really mean it. FreeBSD is great for me, but I was lucky enough to learn SunOS 4.3 on a VT-100 terminal, long before I got my hands on any DOS-based computer. Some things might come naturally to me, but to the masses... well, I don't know. > Here's a golden opportunity to take the wind out of both Windoze and > Linux's sails. You're probably on the wrong path of the source, Luke. Trying to take the "wind" of others sails is not the way a Jendi knight is supposed to live for. We're not using and/ror contributing to FreeBSD because we want it to overhaul and destroy Windows, or Linux for that matter. We're using FreeBSD because we like those little details that make the difference. You got to love Unix to be able to use FreBSD effectively :-) -- Giorgos Keramidas, "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 1 14:36:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chopin.ombuds.siu.edu (chopin.ombuds.siu.edu [131.230.217.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1156E14E42 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parrothd@midwest.net) Received: from [207.250.168.57] by chopin.ombuds.siu.edu id aa04582;