Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:02:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> To: ChrisMic@clientlogic.com (Christopher Michaels) Cc: tw@ettnet.se (Thomas Widlundh), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gui editor Message-ID: <199909150302.XAA21546@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105C52@site2s1> from Christopher Michaels at "Sep 14, 1999 12:50:16 pm"
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Christopher Michaels wrote,
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laurence Berland [SMTP:stuyman@confusion.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 10:00 PM
> > To: Greg Lehey
> > Cc: Thomas Widlundh; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: gui editor
> >
> > If you want something *really* easy to learn use pico. It's not exactly
> > a powerhouse, in fact it doesn't have much in terms of features, but
> > just like pine all the commands are at the bottom of the screen. I for
> > one use emacs, but pico could be what you need.
> >
> > Greg Lehey wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, 13 September 1999 at 15:30:01 +0200, Thomas Widlundh wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Is there a good editor for FreeBSD that somebody know of.
> > > > Not to big. Emacs is far to big to my little box.
> > >
> > > How do you determine that? Sure, it stands for "Eight Megabytes And
> > > Continually Swapping", but most people have more than 8 MB of memory
> > > now.
> > >
> > > Emacs used to be big, but by modern Microsoft standards it's lean and
> > > mean. It's also a lot easier to learn than vi.
>
> Did any suggest the "ee" editor that comes with FreeBSD?
I suggest ed(1). ed(1) is the standard text editor.
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When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor.
- ---
Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
- -rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed
?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?
- ---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely
you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
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Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com
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