From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Apr 12 11:12:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116A5CBD80 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FJmKT609gz3rMG for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp239-208.static.internode.on.net [59.167.239.208]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13CBBvBc021691 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:12:03 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 vtr.rulingia.com 13CBBvBc021691 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 13CBBpni056727 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:11:52 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13CBBpqd056726; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:11:51 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 21:11:51 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Helge Oldach Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecation of portsnap (was: Proposed ports git transition schedule) Message-ID: References: <202104111227.13BCRRVE027982@nuc.oldach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZS8fYCvyxLtvHS+J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202104111227.13BCRRVE027982@nuc.oldach.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FJmKT609gz3rMG X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rulingia.com:s=default]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[peter]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rulingia.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rulingia.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5800::/38, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:12:15 -0000 --ZS8fYCvyxLtvHS+J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-Apr-11 14:27:27 +0200, Helge Oldach wrote: >Peter Jeremy via freebsd-ports wrote on Sun, 11 Apr 2021 00:52:11 +0200 (C= EST): >> Following the SVN to GIT migration, portsnap is now the only practical >> way to use ports on a low-memory system. I've done some experiments >> and standard git has a 2GB working set to checkout a ports tree. > >However checking out is a one-time action with ports as there is only >one branch (switching frequently between main and quarterly is probably >not very sensible on a limited machine). git pull is significantly more >lightweight, I've just seen some 200M RSS. That should work well even on >a 512M machine. Probably much better than gitup in constrained memory? Except that git will arbitrarily and randomly decide that it needs to run "gc" - which is similarly extravagant in memory usage. Last time I found one running, it thrashed that poor VM for 3 days. Ignoring that, a "git up -ff" on a ports tree peaks with 2=D71GB processes, though it looks like the working set size might only be ~350MB. --=20 Peter Jeremy --ZS8fYCvyxLtvHS+J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAmB0KvJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzTrIw/+NAeW6ZZFRlIqgXoq6UP3WBIL3Q+DWEL6LyZnwN/pFpWRUpCLl+xKRPnf /1ozEP/IUrtPAjeh4Sp5I5cr4fAjGpLXN0HjBip70Kyr0Cag+UdEasLuN8YtkoP5 Z4l+ABzoy1CkNKvqEeqJhMTeVPPjGOmu8ggOn+ufoZbpouLDxdX7BrAfcVB5iZrZ /KS7ja9jLyD1eT/e8UJr4/llyrWRkF7+nMWq3NZ+wigaJYeL+xEKP9xL52NRzAQn 0rYyDzLxAu/Mpzugc2TqQQRwxIWLG+l3/G5j7mbAq5FMZoG+euBlM4NuHGCETt0J E6zDK681vcPtYIMcCBdvcAhu7ochOeeGq3fR+JXgoS5es4WpCMm04GmTll+b81kh RUxecYeSXAvN2z8RKtyVHX2y3UFlmIRWCsC+uHBHPp1MABBICAwlnkDnoCX5Mufh e7lMh0TtJwKTuKZ8vyetqvCiaFTO08ZDB3gZvuF+AdgF2me58Qy81q24OIB4sT3r h39SP1SVQB8AsgOFvZsvLSWMdqBdjdNzOhAnoTQ+SfjpmDgqcGiZmN0/gy+l7UII XPUw6GWAYtmwD8nl8m+wi3+O9BabxFM8/0iSUCJdN074J1C4O5tYJDTtw1/sNmBs hu81WvKzxkqqJjkZJpGHT+9rKphpc4WqtBOXr6LFZ/xQjyORL9c= =lPgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZS8fYCvyxLtvHS+J--