From owner-freebsd-hackers  Fri Dec 12 12:00:38 1997
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers>
Received: (from root@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19977
          for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:00:38 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers)
Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131])
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19971
          for <hackers@freebsd.org>; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:00:31 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from archie@whistle.com)
Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA02194; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:59:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3)
	id sma002188; Fri Dec 12 11:58:47 1997
Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA26187; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:58:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>
Message-Id: <199712121958.LAA26187@bubba.whistle.com>
Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: F00F bug *fixed* in 2.0.x kernels
In-Reply-To: <19971212122752.36696@right.PCS> from Jonathan Lemon at "Dec 12, 97 12:27:52 pm"
To: jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:58:47 -0800 (PST)
Cc: hackers@freebsd.org
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Precedence: bulk

Jonathan Lemon writes:
> On Dec 12, 1997 at 09:12:40AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >If they are indeed still using that fix, they are a sorry lot of
> > > >incompetent idiots. 
> > > 
> > >    The fix that Linus is refering to is one of several that were evaluated
> > > and rejected. The fix that we finally adopted in FreeBSD is the one that
> > > involves making the IDT to read-only and catching the write fault that
> > > occurs.
> > 
> > Good. 
> > 
> > And I think I should clarify my position a bit - people did obviously not
> > find my statement about "sorry lot of incompetent idiots" to go over well
> > in some circles. Strange ;) 
> > 
> > Anyway, first I'd like to point out the "if .. indeed" clause of that
> > part, just in case somebody missed it.
> 
> I don't think anyone missed it.  However, the phrasing was same as the
> question ``Have you stopped beating your wife yet?''  EG: it presupposes
> circumstances that are not true.  In this case, the assumption is that the
> fix was actually used by FBSD in the first place.

Oh come on everyone. No need to make a big deal out of it.
Linus is a friendly guy and meant no harm.

-Archie

___________________________________________________________________________
Archie Cobbs   *   Whistle Communications, Inc.  *   http://www.whistle.com