From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:20:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5394B1065673 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from animelovin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076A98FC12 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so1625733vbm.13 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7GaDDQSxWVQahnx6X0dsPcsD4WX15xJ1/SgYL6B8D6o=; b=M/ydo5FFITbmDKpZiKORoN73Xb/ZMmObVF1tI1jzdG9hWmAVe3evPjJvinTWPN0cB4 mEfrW9Af+VS3Y6ezMSPASl1vDwLTmnlc9F2jlLvreMIJpe/c2obASQrNRXF9kQSXDuct mz2ZYzb2ubhWzibNaKBWYRTbnFU1M370WOogfAfs2aN1x8IywkGgjWWF/FGZQodS/a+T 1sFSvYM34UfFnA2Opv2sr+O9XpumWUqFylo5GT367r0VsaMLuqN0SEBtkfg5TAFdd9PR 9RLiv2xIoidbS57fRR90DKizyBBvTv+n3RO9eDGbImW2jtE7TawRbIsoafxWJ3UHrKjf TrzA== Received: by 10.220.221.129 with SMTP id ic1mr2560713vcb.34.1338560430073; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (modemcable107.221-22-96.mc.videotron.ca. [96.22.221.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm3255426vde.16.2012.06.01.07.20.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC8CFB1.6060605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:20:33 -0400 From: animelovin@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20120601121555.GF5335@home.opsec.eu> <4FC8B67D.5090208@digsys.bg> <20120601131236.GJ8591@macbook.bluepipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20120601131236.GJ8591@macbook.bluepipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: animelovin@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:20:31 -0000 On 06/01/2012 09:12 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > Daniel Kalchev (daniel) writes: >> >> It will sure be interesting to learn what people avoid to use FreeBSD for. > > * full virtualization > > I am using VirtualBox in production with HAST + ZVOLs, but we need > something like DRBD's dual master mode to be able to do a teleport of the > instance like Ganeti does (http://code.google.com/p/ganeti/) with Linux > > Getting Xen dom0 and/or KVM would be a major boost as a virtualization > platform, in particular with ZFS. > > * Gluster > > For very large FSes, nothing beats it, especially now that 3.3 has been > released. > > Mind you, I've been using FreeBSD for about 19 years, so I'm not about > to change, but the two items above would go a long way to help FreeBSD > grow in the data center space again (what the kids call the cloud :) > > Cheers, > Phil Thanks for the info and the interesting thread. Thinking about it now I'm not sure I would continue using FreeBSD knowing it become a solution for advanced TCP/IP node routing and clustering over the "clouds". I guess this depends whatever is meant theses days with the so called technical vocabulary to hidden concepts too abstract for the common mortal, thus pretending its "state-of-the-art", or sometimes an abstraction of a logical software unit using advanced technologies harboring eugenic like dehumanization and even potentially harmful to FreeBSD users as for example the intrisic inclusion of IEEE 80211 OFDM modulation scheme within the wireless code base. However I still love FreeBSD and use it along with Linux for playing games and working, but definitely not for HAST based storage, a good example of a technology driven by political hierarchies and more or less by the FreeBSD community, naively adopting technologies without understanding the science and implications beneath such things... Its just common sense or intuition I guess.. :) Kind regards, Etienne