From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 6:12:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67DD237B41B for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5303 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 2001 14:12:35 -0000 Received: from pd950882e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (217.80.136.46) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2001 14:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 47857 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2001 14:08:00 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2001 14:08:00 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fBGE7rO47844 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:07:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:07:53 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console (was: Determining Crash cause?) Message-ID: <20011216150752.A1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3C1B2681.2E507732@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011215204911.E22667@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011215204911.E22667@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 08:49:11PM -0700 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 20:49 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 05:31:29AM -0500, Sam Drinkard wrote: > > Is there any known method to determine the cause of a crash > > when there is no panic, no log entries, or other evidence? > > [ ... ] > > Build a kernel with debugging, connect a terminal (or pc running > Hyperterm or some other equivelant) to a serial port on the FreeBSD > box, configure for console port, set the Hyperterm to log and then > wait for the next crash. See if anything useful is captured in the > log. I have a maybe dumb question: Whenever I (sparadically) checked the Handbook since I'm in this situation to keep boot logs of systems without installing a system I only see explanations of what to do to the "controlled" system. Shouldn't there be at least one mention of the "counterpart" in terms of which base system program or port could be "the terminal"? Doing a quick "man -k serial", "man -k console", and "man -k terminal" doesn't reveal anything appropriate, while the "SEE ALSO" section in getty(8) -- which looks like the most promising place to look at -- doesn't have a reference to the "other side" either. Since I don't have any windows machine around Hyperterm is not an option. Others might have a similar problem. :) And I'm not sure if minicom is a good choice, I'm not very comfortable with it (for this purpose of being a serial terminal). So I consider my previous actions to be a quick hack and take it that they could be much improved. What are the alternatives? What are people using for "terminal servers" or "port concentrators"? And can a short list of possible alternatives be included in the Handbook to not have this question asked again too often? (I volunteer to feedback a summary to -doc from the responses I get here. Feel free to write PMs if you think it's OT for -stable.) virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 6:25: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3367B37B417 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBGEOue03702; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:25:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1CAEB8.74F6E432@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:24:56 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Determining Crash cause? References: <3C1B2681.2E507732@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011215204911.E22667@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since I've never used a serial console with freebsd, I have to ask this question as well.. once the system is up and running, unless there was something actually written to the console, what would be my other options? Most of these crashes I have been experiencing are full wedges. Of course, the screen blanker fixes any hope of seeing any output from the xconsole or anything else for that matter. Also, in the case of a hard wedge, any chance of it dropping into debug mode? Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 6:34: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FDCB37B419 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12245 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Dec 2001 14:33:53 -0000 From: "Alson van der Meulen" Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:33:53 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console (was: Determining Crash cause?) Message-ID: <20011216153353.Y10171@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3C1B2681.2E507732@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011215204911.E22667@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20011216150752.A1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011216150752.A1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 03:07:53PM +0100, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 20:49 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 05:31:29AM -0500, Sam Drinkard wrote: > > > Is there any known method to determine the cause of a crash > > > when there is no panic, no log entries, or other evidence? > > > [ ... ] > > > > Build a kernel with debugging, connect a terminal (or pc running > > Hyperterm or some other equivelant) to a serial port on the FreeBSD > > box, configure for console port, set the Hyperterm to log and then > > wait for the next crash. See if anything useful is captured in the > > log. > > I have a maybe dumb question: Whenever I (sparadically) checked > the Handbook since I'm in this situation to keep boot logs of > systems without installing a system I only see explanations of > what to do to the "controlled" system. Shouldn't there be at > least one mention of the "counterpart" in terms of which base > system program or port could be "the terminal"? Doing a quick > "man -k serial", "man -k console", and "man -k terminal" doesn't > reveal anything appropriate, while the "SEE ALSO" section in > getty(8) -- which looks like the most promising place to look > at -- doesn't have a reference to the "other side" either. cu(1), tip(1), /usr/ports/comms/minicom, to name a few, but nothing really dedicated for this purpose. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C18616.049BB3C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 9:28:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (www2.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5C037B405 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fBGHNnW01040 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:23:49 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:23:49 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: broken 'burncd msinfo' (and hence creating multisession CD) Message-ID: <20011217002349.A1001@grosbein.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! 'burncd msinfo' always retuns 0 for first number, no matter how many sessions are on CD. So one can create only two-session CD. If you trust burncd and use its output for mkisofs -C and append obtained track to CD, you'll get a buggy disk: it contains 3 sessions but TOC shows files only for first session and last one. If, however, you keep right numbers while adding second session and use them for mkisofs, you'll get normal multisession CD. This bug is long-standing. Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 9:41:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netikka.fi (mail.netikka.fi [62.148.192.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A6F37B405 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from HTAHOLA (htahola.netikka.fi [62.148.197.178]) by mail.netikka.fi (8.11.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id fBGHnKK26623; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:49:20 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <001501c18658$e73ca580$0100a8c0@HTAHOLA> From: "Hannu Ahola" To: "Mark Chesney" , References: <000001c18650$b0fa8bc0$0e01a8c0@mark> Subject: Re: subscribe Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:41:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C18669.9FBBFD30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C18669.9FBBFD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Chesney=20 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: subscribe subscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C18669.9FBBFD30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C18669.9FBBFD30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 12:16:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8547137B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBGKGWe04324 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:16:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1D0120.87FE1D36@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:16:32 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Netstat -a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doing some looking, and find that a netstat -p tcp yields a response of: sysctl: net.inet.tcp.stats: Cannot allocate memory. Looking at sysctl, there is no net.inet.tcp.stats entry. It appears that any form of entry made to netstat only displays the unix sockets info. -s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 12:54:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shikima.mine.nu (pc1-card4-0-cust77.cdf.cable.ntl.com [62.252.49.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CADC37B416 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rasputin by shikima.mine.nu with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16FiKt-000Lt7-00; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:56:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:56:39 +0000 From: Rasputin To: Sam Drinkard Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netstat -a Message-ID: <20011216205638.A84119@shikima.mine.nu> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <3C1D0120.87FE1D36@vortex.wa4phy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C1D0120.87FE1D36@vortex.wa4phy.net>; from sam@wa4phy.net on Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 03:16:32PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Sam Drinkard [011216 20:20]: > Doing some looking, and find that a netstat -p tcp yields a response > of: sysctl: net.inet.tcp.stats: Cannot allocate memory. > > Looking at sysctl, there is no net.inet.tcp.stats entry. It appears > that any form of entry made to netstat only displays the unix sockets > info. Just a thought - are your kernel and userland in sync? -- Disco is to music what Etch-A-Sketch is to art. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 15: 3:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F16337B41E for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBGN3ne04537; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1D2855.900672FB@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:03:49 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasputin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netstat -a References: <3C1D0120.87FE1D36@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011216205638.A84119@shikima.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as I know they are. I cvsup'd on the 17th, did make buildworld, then make build kernel, make install kernel, then make installworld as per the handbook ... I very well could have screwed sumthin up, but don't think so. Looking at the usr.bin/netstat files themselves, they appear to be in sync with the tree as of this evening. -sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 17:45:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1DA37B41D for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id fBH1jp691769; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:45:51 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <66547.1008360403@winston.freebsd.org> References: <200112141959.aa22483@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <66547.1008360403@winston.freebsd.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 18 From: Makoto Matsushita To: jkh@winston.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:45:38 +0900 Message-Id: <20011217104538W.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jkh> Looks good, please commit it. May I commit this patch instead of Ian? We have missed 4-stable snapshots these 3 days. > We can probably shave off a small amount by excluding `urio' - this > was added to RELENG_4's GENERIC a few months ago, but I don't see > a corresponding dokern.sh entry in the i386 section. Revision 1.36 > of dokern.sh excluded urio in -current, and revision 1.23.2.15 > excluded it in RELENG_4 for the alpha, but it was never excluded > from RELENG_4's floppy kernel on the i386. The patch below completes > the MFC of revision 1.36. > > Ian -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 18:35:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C7037B419 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBH2Y7d04093; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:34:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112170234.fBH2Y7d04093@ptavv.es.net> To: Steve Feldman Cc: Jonathan Lemon , smkelly@zombie.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking Question In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:40:33 PST." <20011214164033.A13456@twincreeks.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:34:07 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:40:33 -0800 > From: Steve Feldman > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Ahh, this sounds like the beginning of something I'd like > to see: the ability to shut off DHCP when an interface goes > down and reenable it when it comes back up. > > That would let me move easily between a wired (on the built-in fxp) > and wireless (pc-card) interface without having to manually kill > and restart dhclient like I do now. > > That's probably the only Windows feature I miss on FreeBSD. :) If you use pccard_ether, it does kill dhclient. And, it starts it again when another card is inserted. It's far from ideal, but it works for me. I just need to pull the wireless card before suspending my laptop (or the other way around). R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 19:40:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D6B37B41C for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBH3eTG00840; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:40:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. In-Reply-To: Message from Makoto Matsushita of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:45:38 +0900." <20011217104538W.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:40:29 -0800 Message-ID: <836.1008560429@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe he did commit it, it just wasn't enough to get us back under the limit. Unless I misread the commit logs? - Jordan > > jkh> Looks good, please commit it. > > May I commit this patch instead of Ian? We have missed 4-stable > snapshots these 3 days. > > > We can probably shave off a small amount by excluding `urio' - this > > was added to RELENG_4's GENERIC a few months ago, but I don't see > > a corresponding dokern.sh entry in the i386 section. Revision 1.36 > > of dokern.sh excluded urio in -current, and revision 1.23.2.15 > > excluded it in RELENG_4 for the alpha, but it was never excluded > > from RELENG_4's floppy kernel on the i386. The patch below completes > > the MFC of revision 1.36. > > > > Ian > > -- - > Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 19:59:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DFE37B53A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id fBH3wX620664 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:58:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <20011217104538W.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <200112141959.aa22483@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <66547.1008360403@winston.freebsd.org> <20011217104538W.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (alfalfa) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 26 From: Makoto Matsushita To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:58:31 +0900 Message-Id: <20011217125831K.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG matusita> May I commit this patch instead of Ian? We have missed 4-stable matusita> snapshots these 3 days. Oops, sorry, I've checked wrong file. It was commited 2 days before. However, we should have more space to fit kern.flp with a 1.44MB floppy. % pwd /R/stage/image.kern % du -sk . 1404 . Ah, only a few kbytes over... *** If we can compress kernel image by bzip2(1), -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1343299 Dec 17 07:53 kernel.gz* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1292744 Dec 17 07:53 kernel.bz2* we get additional 50kbytes spaces. It seems that loader does understand bzip2ed kernel; anybody tried it with 4-stable ? -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 16 23:47:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC437B417 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fBH7lh610496; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:47:43 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:47:43 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: jacks@sage-american.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Faith0 XXX: Driver didn't set ifq maxlen Message-ID: <20011216234743.A4417@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <3.0.5.32.20011215221957.01558b28@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011215221957.01558b28@mail.sage-american.com>; from jacks@sage-american.com on Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 10:19:57PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 10:19:57PM -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > After cvsuping and make world 4.4-STABLE tonight, I now get this new > message at boot up: >=20 > "faith0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen" >=20 > What does this mean?..... and how do I "set" it..??? You don't. It's a bug I accidentaly introduced into the faith driver. I'll fix it shortly. However, is has no effect since the code that prints the message initalizes the value to the same one I'm going to use. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8HaMeXY6L6fI4GtQRAnHWAKDD64shKz68iO1BnSoLe0yb3O6GtQCfV19a G/C0tuTsRD+BpHmpsTTU5vI= =OLJi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 0: 9:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.www-service.de (smtp.www-service.de [212.77.161.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F89237B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21227 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2001 08:09:43 -0000 Received: from pd95033f1.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO fw.tue.le) (217.80.51.241) by smtp.www-service.de with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 08:09:43 -0000 Received: from mezcal.tue.le (mezcal.tue.le [192.168.201.20]) by fw.tue.le (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22887; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:09:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thz@mezcal.tue.le) Received: (from thz@localhost) by mezcal.tue.le (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBH89LC00823; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:09:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thz) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:09:21 +0100 From: Thomas Zenker To: Mike Silbersack Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB ethernet problem Message-ID: <20011217090920.A763@mezcal.tue.le> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas Zenker , Mike Silbersack , stable@freebsd.org References: <20011214143752.A90727@mezcal.tue.le> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from silby@silby.com on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:17:13PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:17:13PM -0500, Mike Silbersack wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Thomas Zenker wrote: > > > Ok, I tried this. > > > > After doing some test, I decided, this can not be done with a quick > > test, (because of contradictory results) so did a serie of tests. > > It depends also on the transfer size (per connection). This is > > obviously caused by the slowstart alghorithm. > > Wow! Your benchmarks contain quite a bit of useful data, and confirmed my > suspicion that we should change the local slowstart flightsize to > something a bit more reasonable. > > Also, incidently, you seem to have shown what's suggested in one of the > newer rfcs - a slowstart flightsize of 1 is too small for optimal > performance (they suggest something more like 4.) > > I think I'll go ahead and drop the local slowstart flightsize to 4 - we'll > have to do some investigation later to see if raising the remote slowstart > flightsize from 1 to 4 is a good idea. > > Once again, thanks for the high quality testing! > > Mike "Silby" Silbersack I allways wondered, why the initial slowstart window is set to one (well some years I didn't look into the tcp code though). 9 years ago I had to develope the firmware for a store&foreward radio network, where I applied a lot of the ideas from the then net/2 tcp stack. The rtt in such a network is really horrible and packetsizes have to be taken in account. Anyway the optimal initial window there was 2. With a window of two there much more probability to get a connection going, because you send two packets in the beginning, if the first is lost, the receiption of the second one gets the first one resent long before the timeout. Otherway round, if the second is lost... the third is on its way already. With a intital window of 1 the only recovery is by timeout. The argument against bigger than two was (at least in my case) not to defeat the intention of the slowstart. Anyway, in tcp probably something between 2 and 4 could be considered. Thomas -- Thomas Zenker c/o Lennartz electronic GmbH Bismarckstrasse 136, D-72072 Tuebingen, Germany Phone: +49-(0)7071-93550 Email: thz@lennartz-electronic.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 0:21:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from niwun.pair.com (niwun.pair.com [209.68.2.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6350C37B430 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20812 invoked by uid 3193); 17 Dec 2001 08:20:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 08:20:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 03:20:51 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Silbersack X-Sender: To: Thomas Zenker Cc: , Subject: Re: USB ethernet problem In-Reply-To: <20011217090920.A763@mezcal.tue.le> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Moving over to -net, please remove -stable from any cc's) On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Thomas Zenker wrote: > I allways wondered, why the initial slowstart window is set to one > (well some years I didn't look into the tcp code though). 9 years > ago I had to develope the firmware for a store&foreward radio > network, where I applied a lot of the ideas from the then net/2 tcp > stack. The rtt in such a network is really horrible and packetsizes > have to be taken in account. Anyway the optimal initial window there > was 2. With a window of two there much more probability to get a > connection going, because you send two packets in the beginning, > if the first is lost, the receiption of the second one gets the > first one resent long before the timeout. Otherway round, if the > second is lost... the third is on its way already. With a intital > window of 1 the only recovery is by timeout. The argument against > bigger than two was (at least in my case) not to defeat the intention > of the slowstart. Anyway, in tcp probably something between 2 and > 4 could be considered. > > Thomas RFC 2581 suggests that 4 is a good value (well, not exactly 4, they have a formula which comes out to about 4 in most cases.) I'm inclined to agree that something between 2-4 would be a good value for our non-local slowstart flightsize as well. Maybe after 4.5 is released we can go look into it. (It's too late to be changing stuff now.) Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 2: 6:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ms.anet.cz (ms.anet.cz [212.65.193.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DA437B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from walter.anet.cz (walter.anet.cz [194.212.65.153]) by ms.anet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E14838470 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:06:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop (laptop.anet.cz [10.20.20.90]) by walter.anet.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBH9jeI02355 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@walter.anet.cz) From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Anton=EDn_Walter?=" To: Subject: gated Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:32:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, can somebody advice where to get more information on "gated". The port did not install any man pages and the official web page seems to show just index.html on all links Thanks Tony Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 2:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B9337B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-206.wobline.de [212.68.69.217]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fBHAYU727704; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:34:30 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHAa0X15938; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:36:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHAZ7Z43593; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:35:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:35:07 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Brooks Davis Cc: jacks@sage-american.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Faith0 XXX: Driver didn't set ifq maxlen Message-ID: <20011217113507.C43375@tisys.org> Mail-Followup-To: Brooks Davis , jacks@sage-american.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3.0.5.32.20011215221957.01558b28@mail.sage-american.com> <20011216234743.A4417@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011216234743.A4417@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:47:43PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Machine-Uptime: 11:05AM up 4:25, 1 user, load averages: 0.17, 0.06, 0.05 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:47:43PM -0800, Brooks Davis stood up and spoke: > > You don't. It's a bug I accidentaly introduced into the faith driver. > I'll fix it shortly. However, is has no effect since the code that > prints the message initalizes the value to the same one I'm going to use. Great, I just saw the commit on cvs-all! Glad to hear that the message was just "bogus" and not really a problem, so there's not functionality gain in re-cvsupping right now only to make this message go away ;-) Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 3:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ms.anet.cz (ms.anet.cz [212.65.193.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9237B419 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 03:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from walter.anet.cz (walter.anet.cz [194.212.65.153]) by ms.anet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC55A38551 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:35:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop (laptop.anet.cz [10.20.20.90]) by walter.anet.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBHBIEI03347 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:18:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@walter.anet.cz) From: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Anton=EDn_Walter?=" To: Subject: staroffice5.2 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:04:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to port Staroffice 5.2 It requires also 109939-02.tar.Z and the port is not able to locate it anywhere. Can somebody advice whre to download it from? Thanks A. Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 5:11: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E4237B622 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from attbi.com ([12.254.218.32]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011217131041.YOB10701.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:10:41 +0000 Message-ID: <3C1DEE62.50448980@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:08:50 -0700 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Make Installworld fills up / ...help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was going to post this to -questions but this list seemed more appropriate after searching the archives. If I'm in error, please let me know and I'll redirect it to -questions. I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE on my home PC. Yesterday, I did the usual cvsrun to download the source for the 4.4-STABLE branch and began my monthly "make buildworld". I have done this many times without a problem. Before I started, my / slice was at 89% capacity but when I dropped to single user mode and started the "make installworld", I got a couple of "stop" errors saying that / was full. "df -h" revealed that / was indeed at 108% capacity. In an attempt to free up some space, I deleted modules.old This brought / down to 98% capacity but I still get "stop" errors when trying "make installworld" Sorry, I didn't write down the exact error msgs and won't know what they are unless I try "make installworld" again. This isn't a problem with my /var/tmp or /tmp directories. /var/tmp only has "vi.recover" in it and /tmp has a few install.XXXXX directories in it but it's only at 2.4M I can successfully boot from kernel.old and get to my desktop but my Netscape won't work now so I'm posting this from Netscape Messenger in WIN98. Can anyone help me recover from this or should I forget it and just reinstall? Thanks Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 5:33:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moriarity.grauel.com (moriarity.grauel.com [199.233.104.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864EE37B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by moriarity.grauel.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHDXXT12377; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:33:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rjk) From: "Richard J. Kuhns" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5om9TEP/IQ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15389.62509.403900.347667@moriarity.grauel.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:33:33 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: -stable hangs when booting Dell Precision 340 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5om9TEP/IQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: message body text Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently installed a new Dell Precision 340 to use as my desktop machine at work. I installed 4.4 from the CD and built a custom kernel without any problems (except the sound doesn't work). Since since upgrading to -stable, it hangs while booting over 50% of the time. Eventually, after several power cycles, it will finally come up. Once it comes up, it runs without a hitch (once again, except for the audio). I'm attaching dmesg output from a verbose boot. When it doesn't boot it hangs immediately after printing "isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices". Is posting here sufficient, or should I file a PR? 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IE1lY2hhbmlzbTogZWplY3RhYmxlIHRyYXkKYWNkMDogTWVkaXVtOiBuby9ibGFuayBkaXNj IGluc2lkZSwgdW5sb2NrZWQKTW91bnRpbmcgcm9vdCBmcm9tIHVmczovZGV2L2FkMHMxYQph ZDBzMTogdHlwZSAweGE1LCBzdGFydCA2MywgZW5kID0gMzkxMDIyMDksIHNpemUgMzkxMDIx NDcgOiBPSwpzdGFydF9pbml0OiB0cnlpbmcgL3NiaW4vaW5pdApzd2Fwb246IGFkZGluZyAv ZGV2L2FkMHMxYiBhcyBzd2FwIGRldmljZQpBdXRvbWF0aWMgYm9vdCBpbiBwcm9ncmVzcy4u Lgo= --5om9TEP/IQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: .signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / --5om9TEP/IQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 6:13:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9249137B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 17 Dec 2001 14:13:37 +0000 (GMT) To: Makoto Matsushita Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:58:31 +0900." <20011217125831K.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:13:36 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200112171413.aa87921@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011217125831K.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>, Makoto Matsushita writes: >% pwd >/R/stage/image.kern >% du -sk . >1404 . > >Ah, only a few kbytes over... I tried Matt's suggestion of moving some NFS macros into functions, and it looks we can get 10k or so off the compressed kernel that way by changing just 4 macros. I can test and commit that later if using bzip2 isn't practical. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 6:30:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bayer2.bayer-ag.de (bayer2.bayer-ag.de [194.120.191.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 216F737B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from by-inet1.bayer-ag.com (BY17V3.BAYER-AG.COM) by bayer2.bayer-ag.de with SMTP id PAA05638 (SMTP Gateway 4.2 for ); Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:22:36 +0100 Subject: compilation error in isa/fd.c after =?iso-8859-1?Q?MFC=B4s_=2E=2E=2E_=22FDC=5FISPNP_undeclared=22?= To: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-Id: From: andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:29:51 +0100 X-Mimetrack: Serialize by Router on BY-INET1/Central/LEV/DE/BAYER(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 12/17/2001 03:30:48 PM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just for your information. I mirrored the CVS repository 2 hours ago from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/ root@byaps1[79] [BYAPS1] # make cc -c -pipe -O -march=pentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../isa/fd.c ../../isa/fd.c: In function `fdc_alloc_resources': ../../isa/fd.c:535: `FDC_ISPNP' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../isa/fd.c:535: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../isa/fd.c:535: for each function it appears in.) ../../isa/fd.c:536: `FDC_ISPCMCIA' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../isa/fd.c:532: warning: `ispnp' might be used uninitialized in this function ../../isa/fd.c:532: warning: `ispcmcia' might be used uninitialized in this function ../../isa/fd.c: In function `fdc_probe': ../../isa/fd.c:702: structure has no member named `fdctl_wr' ../../isa/fd.c:709: `FDC_ISPNP' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../isa/fd.c: In function `fd_probe': ../../isa/fd.c:987: `FDC_ISPCMCIA' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../isa/fd.c: In function `Fdopen': ../../isa/fd.c:1456: structure has no member named `dma_overruns' ../../isa/fd.c: In function `fdstate': ../../isa/fd.c:1735: structure has no member named `fdctl_wr' ../../isa/fd.c:2036: structure has no member named `dma_overruns' ../../isa/fd.c:2052: structure has no member named `dma_overruns' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/BYAPS1. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 6:31:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F9037B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fBHEVBS54905; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:31:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:31:11 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: "Richard J. Kuhns" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PR 29769: Re: -stable hangs when booting Dell Precision 340 Message-ID: <20011217153111.N68324@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <15389.62509.403900.347667@moriarity.grauel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15389.62509.403900.347667@moriarity.grauel.com>; from rjk@grauel.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:33:33AM -0500 X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:33:33AM -0500, Richard J. Kuhns wrote: > I've recently installed a new Dell Precision 340 to use as my desktop > machine at work. I installed 4.4 from the CD and built a custom kernel > without any problems (except the sound doesn't work). Since since > upgrading to -stable, it hangs while booting over 50% of the time. > Eventually, after several power cycles, it will finally come up. Once it > comes up, it runs without a hitch (once again, except for the audio). > I'm attaching dmesg output from a verbose boot. When it doesn't boot it > hangs immediately after printing > "isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices". > > Is posting here sufficient, or should I file a PR? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > See PR 29769 and Bruce Montague's recent message to -stable (in the mailing list archives). To any developer: this problem seems to come up more and more often; can anyone please take a look? This has been bugging me since 4.4-PRERELEASE :( :( --Stijn -- ] Nothing safer than a 'cat /dev/wallet | grep $price > real-person; \ ] mv $thing-to-buy $my-case I'd prefer 'mv $thing-to-buy $my-case && cat /dev/wallet | \ grep $price > real-person -- Anonymous, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, in message <200108020628.IAA11775@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 6:51:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9BB37B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHEpYR00638 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:51:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1E0676.36BF81A8@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:51:34 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Netstat = My problem(s) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have just found out my userland was not being rebuilt. A direct make of netstat yields a correctly working version. Sorry to put forth issues that aren't! I'll be quiet and read some more. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 7:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from medusa.oit.pdx.edu (medusa.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770B237B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from svalin.oit.pdx.edu (svalin.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.35]) by medusa.oit.pdx.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHFUZF27635; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rohrer@localhost) by svalin.oit.pdx.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHFUWF18442; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:30:33 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: svalin.oit.pdx.edu: rohrer owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Rohrer X-X-Sender: To: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Anton=EDn_Walter?=" Cc: Subject: Re: staroffice5.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, [iso-8859-2] Ing. Antonín Walter wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to port Staroffice 5.2 It requires also > > 109939-02.tar.Z > > and the port is not able to locate it anywhere. > > Can somebody advice whre to download it from? Looks like a sun patch number -- check . > > Thanks > > A. Walter > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 7:35:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.agava.net.ru (ofc.agava.net [213.59.3.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD0937B41C; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from juil.domain (juil.domain [192.168.1.50]) by relay2.agava.net.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2604F66B7A; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:35:41 +0300 (MSK) Received: by juil.domain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 57614245; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:28:11 +0300 (MSK) To: Greg Broiles Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Control-C doesn't work with ssh References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011214110019.046f8ba0@bivens.parrhesia.com> From: Ilya Martynov Date: 17 Dec 2001 18:28:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011214110019.046f8ba0@bivens.parrhesia.com> Message-ID: <87itb5988k.fsf@juil.domain> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG GB> At 06:11 PM 12/12/2001 +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Have anybody know what can cause for not working Control-C in ssh? GB> Are you absolutely positive CTRL-C isn't working? Absolutely. It just prints ^C and does nothing. And 'stty -a' doesn't show anything wrong. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/) | | GnuPG 1024D/323BDEE6 D7F7 561E 4C1D 8A15 8E80 E4AE BE1A 53EB 323B DEE6 | | AGAVA Software Company (http://www.agava.com/) | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 7:44: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.agava.net.ru (ofc.agava.net [213.59.3.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3756537B405; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from juil.domain (juil.domain [192.168.1.50]) by relay2.agava.net.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0A966B80; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:43:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: by juil.domain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B567B245; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:36:39 +0300 (MSK) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Thomas Cannon , Greg Broiles , , Subject: Re: Control-C doesn't work with ssh References: <20011214111528.C75642-100000@stereophonic.noops.org> <200112141928.fBEJSqC25054@apollo.backplane.com> From: Ilya Martynov Date: 17 Dec 2001 18:36:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200112141928.fBEJSqC25054@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <87667597ug.fsf@juil.domain> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG MD> : MD> :I'd suggest running 'stty -a' and making sure that ^C is listed as an MD> :interrupt. Maybe it somehow got changed? MD> : MD> :-t MD> I've noticed this too, and I hate it. When ssh asks for a private key MD> password or a normal password ^C doesn't work. I've different problem. Control-C doesn't work at all for programs launched in bash and sh. For some reason it works in csh. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/) | | GnuPG 1024D/323BDEE6 D7F7 561E 4C1D 8A15 8E80 E4AE BE1A 53EB 323B DEE6 | | AGAVA Software Company (http://www.agava.com/) | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 8: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ms.anet.cz (ms.anet.cz [212.65.193.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DE637B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from walter.anet.cz (walter.anet.cz [194.212.65.153]) by ms.anet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8715438562; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:06:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop (laptop.anet.cz [10.20.20.90]) by walter.anet.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBHFodI03732; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:50:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@walter.anet.cz) From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ing._Anton=EDn_Walter?=" To: "Guido Kollerie" , Subject: RE: staroffice5.2 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20011217133548.A33045@kinchenna.kollerie.nl> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, maybe I did not use the correct word in english, but on using the port you have suggested it first downloaded the 97GB file of staroffice and the tried to download this 109939-02.tar.Z file but it was not available at any location the port was looking at Any hint? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: gkoller@node14e65.a2000.nl [mailto:gkoller@node14e65.a2000.nl]On Behalf Of Guido Kollerie Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:36 PM To: Ing. Antonín Walter Subject: Re: staroffice5.2 On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, Ing. Antonín Walter wrote: > I am trying to port Staroffice 5.2 It requires also StarOffice 5.2 has already been ported. Have a look at: /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52 -- Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 8:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1672437B419 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE5F1E877 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHGPcN78189 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:25:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:25:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200112171625.fBHGPcN78189@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vivek Khera To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE corrupting filesystems? Newsgroups: ml.freebsd.stable References: <200112141727.fBEHRwk16604@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Trace: lorax.kciLink.com 1008604533 82155 216.194.193.106 (17 Dec 2001 15:55:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: daemon@kciLink.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "n" == nsayer writes: n> One of my machines has been prone to having one of its filesystems curdle n> for an unknown reason. n> I have ever only experienced 3 filesystems get curdled on FreeBSD ever, n> but all three were /usr filesystems on that one disk. The first time n> was a while ago, but now it's happened twice in the last week. This smells *seriously* of hardware failure. Could be bad controller, disk, cable, or even memory. Only detailed diagnostics can pinpoint the real culprit (either that or sequentially replacing every part one at a a time.) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 8:41:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC8A37B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA31473; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:41:30 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda31471; Mon Dec 17 08:41:29 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.6/8.9.1) id fBHGfO616751; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdL16749; Mon Dec 17 08:40:42 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id fBHGegu15712; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112171640.fBHGegu15712@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpda15708; Mon Dec 17 08:40:13 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE corrupting filesystems? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:25:38 EST." <200112171625.fBHGPcN78189@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:40:13 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200112171625.fBHGPcN78189@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera writes: > >>>>> "n" == nsayer writes: > > n> One of my machines has been prone to having one of its filesystems curdle > n> for an unknown reason. > > n> I have ever only experienced 3 filesystems get curdled on FreeBSD ever, > n> but all three were /usr filesystems on that one disk. The first time > n> was a while ago, but now it's happened twice in the last week. > > This smells *seriously* of hardware failure. Could be bad controller, > disk, cable, or even memory. Only detailed diagnostics can pinpoint > the real culprit (either that or sequentially replacing every part one > at a a time.) Or possibly a termination problem (which is also a h/w problem). Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Email: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD Ministry of Management Services Province of BC FreeBSD UNIX: cy@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 8:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3546237B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32075 invoked by uid 1002); 17 Dec 2001 16:51:38 -0000 From: "Alson van der Meulen" Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:51:38 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gated Message-ID: <20011217175138.C10171@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:32:53AM +0100, Ing. Anton?n Walter wrote: > Hi, > > can somebody advice where to get more information on "gated". The port did > not install any man pages and the official web page seems to show just > index.html on all links Zebra has some more documentation at zebra.org, you might want to try that instead. Gated public version is really an old version of the commercial gated, and they removed all documentation from their site. Most of the cisco docs also apply partly to zebra. Unless you've any special reason you want to use gated I suggest you switch to zebra (/usr/ports/net/zebra). HTH, Alson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 9:23:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0029A37B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 16G1UL-000O4H-00; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:23:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:23:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ing._Anton=EDn_Walter?=" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, [iso-8859-2] Ing. Anton=EDn Walter wrote: > Hi, >=20 > can somebody advice where to get more information on "gated". The port di= d > not install any man pages and the official web page seems to show just > index.html on all links >=20 > Thanks Tony Walter There were never any gated man pages written. There should be some html docs in the source tarball, that should be installed by the port. You might want to think about using zebra instead. I'm been using gated on various machines for 4 years, but support for gated has declined as it is moved to a commercial product. I'm putting zebra on all new machines. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 9:35: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B4337B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBHHZ3Z00624 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:35:03 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-hw@epcdirect.co.uk) Delivered-To: Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by paperboy.epcdirect.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1av) with ESMTP id fBHHZ0P00595 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:35:00 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-hw@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Subject: Read timeouts on Audio extraction Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:35:08 -0000 Message-ID: <004401c18721$2c696620$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im trying to extract CD Audio to a wav file using dagrab, and get: acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. done acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. done acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. done acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. done I've tried this on a Via chipset ATA controller, and this is a Promise one, that used to do this quite happily (And still does in Windows). Anyone else seen this? Or have any ideas? Dmesg bits here: atapci0: at device 4.1 on pci0 atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported atapci1: port 0x7800-0x783f,0x8000-0x8003,0x8400-0x8407,0x8800-0x8803,0x9000-0x9007 mem 0xd9000000-0xd901ffff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:13: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720B237B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHICq301766 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:12:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1E35A3.DAB7ADD6@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:12:51 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Userland not installing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone help me out here.. for some reason (maybe ignorance on my part) tell me what has to be done to install the userland stuff? I've followed the exact sequence in the handbook, run mergemaster, etc.. and still the userland stuff is not being installed. My sequence is make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel ; reboot into single user mode, make installworld, then run mergemaster. What am I doing that is preventing userland from being installed? Apologize for trivial stuff, but I'm attempting to learn.. Thanks... Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B4537B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHIH9Y74626; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:17:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:17:09 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Sam Drinkard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userland not installing Message-ID: <20011217131709.A74597@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3C1E35A3.DAB7ADD6@vortex.wa4phy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C1E35A3.DAB7ADD6@vortex.wa4phy.net>; from sam@wa4phy.net on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:12:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you've done as you describe below, it certainly isn't trivial. Let's start at the raw beginning. What makes you believe that the userland is not being installed? What is the date if you do a "ls -lai" on, say, /bin/ls ? On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:12:51PM -0500, Sam Drinkard wrote: > Can someone help me out here.. for some reason (maybe ignorance on my > part) tell me what has to be done to install the userland stuff? I've > followed the exact sequence in the handbook, run mergemaster, etc.. and > still the userland stuff is not being installed. My sequence is make > buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel ; reboot into single > user mode, make installworld, then run mergemaster. What am I doing > that is preventing userland from being installed? > > Apologize for trivial stuff, but I'm attempting to learn.. > > Thanks... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2929937B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBHIPW301205; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112171825.fBHIPW301205@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Ian Dowse Cc: Makoto Matsushita , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:13:36 GMT." <200112171413.aa87921@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:25:32 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I tried Matt's suggestion of moving some NFS macros into functions, > and it looks we can get 10k or so off the compressed kernel that > way by changing just 4 macros. I can test and commit that later if > using bzip2 isn't practical. Using bzip2 will mean finding a *compact* decompression library. The loader currently uses a cut-down version (decompression only) of libz. If there's an equivalent for bzip2, then we can do that too. A better idea, however, will be to start splitting more stuff out into modules. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:44: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E67437BABC for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14596; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:28:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3C1E394A.7060606@owt.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:28:26 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE corrupting filesystems? References: <200112171640.fBHGegu15712@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <200112171625.fBHGPcN78189@onceler.kciLink.com>, Vivek Khera writes: > >>>>>>>"n" == nsayer writes: >>>>>>> >>n> One of my machines has been prone to having one of its filesystems curdle >>n> for an unknown reason. >> >>n> I have ever only experienced 3 filesystems get curdled on FreeBSD ever, >>n> but all three were /usr filesystems on that one disk. The first time >>n> was a while ago, but now it's happened twice in the last week. >> >>This smells *seriously* of hardware failure. Could be bad controller, >>disk, cable, or even memory. Only detailed diagnostics can pinpoint >>the real culprit (either that or sequentially replacing every part one >>at a a time.) >> > > Or possibly a termination problem (which is also a h/w problem). Or the NFS corruption problem that has been discussed on -hackers. Fixes for it are still developed in current. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:48:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E149F37B6EA for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHIjD301859; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:45:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1E3D39.3F01D09A@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:45:13 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland not installing References: <3C1E35A3.DAB7ADD6@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011217131709.A74597@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Something is rather odd here, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Checking dates does in fact show a Dec 17th datestamp, but comparing the /usr/bin executables against /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin executables shows they are different in size, but datestamps are the same, Dec 17. This whole thing started with a funny netstat output. Looking at file sizes, I see in /usr/bin, netstat is: -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 13:06 /usr/bin/netstat and in /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 12:24 netstat Knowing it has not been installed, but it does give proper output. A view of the script of the install does not show any problems... More than baffled now... Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:50:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA037B6FF for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHImNX74901; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:48:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:48:23 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Sam Drinkard Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland not installing Message-ID: <20011217134823.A74847@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3C1E35A3.DAB7ADD6@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011217131709.A74597@blackhelicopters.org> <3C1E3D39.3F01D09A@vortex.wa4phy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C1E3D39.3F01D09A@vortex.wa4phy.net>; from sam@wa4phy.net on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:45:13PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your issue is basically this? pedicular~;ls -lai /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/xargs/ total 26 309805 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Dec 12 12:24 . 238112 drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 6656 Dec 12 11:19 .. 310095 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 884 Dec 12 11:58 .depend 310504 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8425 Dec 12 12:24 xargs 310505 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2769 Dec 12 12:24 xargs.1.gz 310503 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4544 Dec 12 12:24 xargs.o pedicular~;ls -lai /usr/bin/xargs 8627 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6324 Dec 12 12:53 /usr/bin/xargs I *believe* that the install strips the binaries before installing them. That would explain the size difference. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:45:13PM -0500, Sam Drinkard wrote: > Something is rather odd here, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Checking > dates does in fact show a Dec 17th datestamp, but comparing the /usr/bin > executables against /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin executables shows they are > different in size, but datestamps are the same, Dec 17. This whole > thing started with a funny netstat output. Looking at file sizes, I see > in /usr/bin, netstat is: > > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 13:06 /usr/bin/netstat > > and in /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 12:24 netstat > > > Knowing it has not been installed, but it does give proper output. A > view of the script of the install does not show any problems... > > More than baffled now... > > > Sam -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:55:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B7737C3A9 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHIreM39086; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200112171853.fBHIreM39086@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, sam@wa4phy.net Subject: Re: Userland not installing Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3C1E3D39.3F01D09A@vortex.wa4phy.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:45:13 -0500 >From: Sam Drinkard >Something is rather odd here, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Checking >dates does in fact show a Dec 17th datestamp, but comparing the /usr/bin >executables against /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin executables shows they are >different in size, but datestamps are the same, Dec 17. This whole >thing started with a funny netstat output. Looking at file sizes, I see >in /usr/bin, netstat is: >-r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 13:06 /usr/bin/netstat >and in /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat: >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 12:24 netstat >Knowing it has not been installed, but it does give proper output. A >view of the script of the install does not show any problems... FYI: m133[1] file /usr/bin/netstat /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat /usr/bin/netstat: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped m133[2] ls -l !:* ls -l /usr/bin/netstat /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 05:58 /usr/bin/netstat -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 05:38 /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat m133[3] (I.e., the new one *is* installed; it's stripped, while the one in /usr/obj is not stripped, thus accounting for the size difference.) Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I believe it would be irresponsible (and thus, unethical) for me to advise, recommend, or support the use of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product for any purpose other than personal amusement. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:57:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB837B420 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHIvQ301950; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:57:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C1E4016.68F452C4@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:57:26 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland not installing References: <200112171853.fBHIreM39086@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is true, however I can't explain why netstat -a only gives the active UNIX domain sockets info, while the unstripped version reports Active Internet connections (including servers) as it's supposed to.. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 10:59:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C6437B53A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHIxP375032; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:59:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:59:25 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: David Wolfskill Cc: sam@wa4phy.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userland not installing Message-ID: <20011217135925.A74987@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3C1E3D39.3F01D09A@vortex.wa4phy.net> <200112171853.fBHIreM39086@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112171853.fBHIreM39086@bunrab.catwhisker.org>; from david@catwhisker.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:53:40AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of course, one could always use "file" on each binary to see what the differences are. But that would be too easy. Sigh... the new tea I tried must not have enough caffiene. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:53:40AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:45:13 -0500 > >From: Sam Drinkard > > >Something is rather odd here, and I'm at a loss to explain it. Checking > >dates does in fact show a Dec 17th datestamp, but comparing the /usr/bin > >executables against /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin executables shows they are > >different in size, but datestamps are the same, Dec 17. This whole > >thing started with a funny netstat output. Looking at file sizes, I see > >in /usr/bin, netstat is: > > >-r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 13:06 /usr/bin/netstat > > >and in /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat: > > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 12:24 netstat > > > >Knowing it has not been installed, but it does give proper output. A > >view of the script of the install does not show any problems... > > > FYI: > > m133[1] file /usr/bin/netstat /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat > /usr/bin/netstat: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped > /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped > m133[2] ls -l !:* > ls -l /usr/bin/netstat /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 91008 Dec 17 05:58 /usr/bin/netstat > -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 99182 Dec 17 05:38 /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat > m133[3] > > > (I.e., the new one *is* installed; it's stripped, while the one in > /usr/obj is not stripped, thus accounting for the size difference.) > > Cheers, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > I believe it would be irresponsible (and thus, unethical) for me to advise, > recommend, or support the use of any product that is or depends on any > Microsoft product for any purpose other than personal amusement. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 11: 6:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B08637B782 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 48472 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Dec 2001 18:59:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 18:59:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:59:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Marius M. Rex" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: on/off NFS connection errors Message-ID: <20011217120545.D48149-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For a while I have been treating this as an annoyance, but I thought it would be wise to investigate if something larger and more nefarious might be being indicated by this. I have a mixed environment of mainly Linux boxen, with a dozen or so FreeBSD machines (For when we need the kind of network resources that raising the NMBCLUSTERS can offer.) Both types of systems serve mainly as webservers, serving content that ultimately comes off of exported NFS directories, from a Network Appliance (NetApp Release 5.3.4R3: Thu Jan 27 12:08:07 PST 2000) The Linux boxen don't complain at all, but the FreeBSD boxen can get rather noisy about NFS connection errors. It happens on and off like so: ><118>Dec 15 21:01:47 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not >responding ><118>Dec 15 21:01:47 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is >alive again ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not responding ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is alive again ><118>Dec 15 22:34:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not >responding ><118>Dec 15 22:34:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is >alive again ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not responding ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is alive again ><118>Dec 15 22:39:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not >responding ><118>Dec 15 22:39:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is >alive again ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not responding ><6>nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is alive again ><118>Dec 15 22:40:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not >responding ><118>Dec 15 22:40:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is >alive again One moment we are connected, another we are down, and the we are back up again. Some days I can get pages and pages of this, others very little. Luckily the connection error is so short lived that Apache never hiccups. Has anyone else seen these kinds of persistent NFS errors is the 4.x branch? (This didn't happen noticeably in 3.x, but I would still maintain that the NFS code in 4.x is an improvement over 3.x.) Can anyone suggest a sysctl/kernel variable I might tune to help remedy the problem? If the root of the problem is more likely on the Netapp side, I have a support contact and am not afraid to use it. Anyone have any advice or suggestions to offer? This is the platform that I am working on: FreeBSD cc117 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sat Aug 18 00:21:16 EDT 2001 root@cc117:/usr/src/sys/compile/CCI_KERNEL i386 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marius M. Rex Hardware: n. The parts of a computer that can be kicked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 11: 7:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hydrologue.com (adsl-63-194-243-48.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.243.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC05F37B770 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bradym@localhost) by mail.hydrologue.com (8.10.1/8.10.0.Beta6) id fBI0E8n31120 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:14:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:14:08 -0800 From: Brady Montz To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com> References: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com>; from bradym@balestra.org on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0800, Brady Montz wrote: > Richard Nyberg writes: > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:59:13AM +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > > I am experiencing the same crashes on my new machine (ATA100 IDE > > > drive): they appeared when I noticed that I had forgotten to use > > > soft-updates. After I have turned them on, I experienced the first > > > crash in 15 minutes. Then I get one every two days, when doing > > > heavy disk IOs. I got a crash 10 minutes ago when the machine was > > > unattended though (and not doing important disk IOs), and could > > > see a "panic" message on the console. Unfortunately, I hadn't > > > enough free space in /var/crash to save the kernel. > > > > > > Do you people use soft-updates? From my experience on this > > > problem, I assume that either soft-updates or the ATA driver may > > > be causing those spontanous reboots. > > > > Yes I use soft-updates. The peculiar thing aboout my crash though is that > > there was no panic; the machine just froze and the screen went blank, so > > maybe I was hit by a different problem. > > > > -Richard > > Yeah, I'm using soft updates too. My crashes are generally the same as > Richards - no panic, just a freeze. Except my screen doesn't go blank. Here's an update ... I'm fairly certain there's a kernel bug at work here. Last night I rebooted to linux (which is on the same disk), and ran batch compiles all night long without any troubles. In comparision, I can't compile more than an hour at a time with BSD 4.4 before it crashes. Again, I ran memtest86 and it didn't find any memory errors, and I'm not seeing any file system corruption, just hangs and reboots. I am running the latest 4.4-stable. The other day I went back to 4.4-release and that didn't help. I've tried both with and without softupdates. The crashes seem to happen most often when accessing stuff from all over the filesystem, such as during a large "make clean", or most reliably, with "portsdb -Uu". I am tiring of this. Someone else on this thread mentioned that their 5.0 machine is doing fine. In what shape is that and how much effort is it to move a 4.4 machine to 5.0? -- Brady Montz bradym@balestra.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 12:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2674137B41C; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gosset.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 17 Dec 2001 20:45:05 +0000 (GMT) To: "Marius M. Rex" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: on/off NFS connection errors In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:59:23 EST." <20011217120545.D48149-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:45:05 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200112172045.aa49374@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011217120545.D48149-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com>, "Marius M. Rex" writes: > >><118>Dec 15 22:40:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not >>responding >><118>Dec 15 22:40:19 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is >>alive again ... >Has anyone else seen these kinds of persistent NFS errors is the 4.x >branch? These are a side-effect of the operation of the NFS dynamic retransmit timeout code. The NFS client measures the request response time for various types of operations and it sets a timeout based on the mean and deviation of observed times. The time taken by the server to perform some operations can vary wildly though, so occasionally when a large number of operations complete with very little delay, the response time estimate and hence the timeout become very small. Then when one request is unusually slow to complete (such as when the disk on the server is busy), the client thinks that the server isn't responding and prints those warnings. A fraction of a second later the request completes and the client prints a an 'is alive again' message. On non-soft mounts these messages are completely harmless because the client will just wait for the server to eventually reply. On soft mounts, the effect can cause problems because applications occasionally see an EINTR error. The dynamic retransmit timeout code can be disabled with the `-d' flag to mount_nfs; this is often recommended for fast networks that see very little packet loss. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 12:57:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D9837B41E; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id fBHKutG32773; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:56:55 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200112172056.fBHKutG32773@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Marius M. Rex" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: on/off NFS connection errors References: <20011217120545.D48149-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :For a while I have been treating this as an annoyance, but I thought it :would be wise to investigate if something larger and more nefarious might :be being indicated by this. : :I have a mixed environment of mainly Linux boxen, with a dozen or so :FreeBSD machines (For when we need the kind of network resources that :raising the NMBCLUSTERS can offer.) Both types of systems serve mainly as :webservers, serving content that ultimately comes off of exported NFS :directories, from a Network Appliance (NetApp Release 5.3.4R3: Thu Jan 27 :12:08:07 PST 2000) The Linux boxen don't complain at all, but the FreeBSD :boxen can get rather noisy about NFS connection errors. It happens :on and off like so: : :><118>Dec 15 21:01:47 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: not :>responding :><118>Dec 15 21:01:47 cc117 /kernel: nfs server netapp1:/vol/members: is :>alive again :.. Our NFS is somewhat finicky about response times. It could probably use some tuning. Trying mounting with the 'dumbtimer' mount option and see if that fixes your problem. (also see the -d and -t options in 'man mount_nfs'. Note that -t is specified in 1/10 second increments). -Matt :Has anyone else seen these kinds of persistent NFS errors is the 4.x :branch? (This didn't happen noticeably in 3.x, but I would still :maintain that the NFS code in 4.x is an improvement over 3.x.) Can anyone :suggest a sysctl/kernel variable I might tune to help remedy the problem? :If the root of the problem is more likely on the Netapp side, I have a support :contact and am not afraid to use it. Anyone have any advice or :suggestions to offer? : :This is the platform that I am working on: :FreeBSD cc117 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sat Aug 18 00:21:16 EDT :2001 root@cc117:/usr/src/sys/compile/CCI_KERNEL i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.acns.ab.ca (h24-64-56-135.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.56.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4711137B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from colnta.acns.ab.ca (colnta.acns.ab.ca [192.168.1.2]) by mail.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBHLLFS03429; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc@colnta.acns.ab.ca) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by colnta.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fBHLLFL45919; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 From: Chad David To: Brady Montz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217142115.A45797@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Brady Montz , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com> <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com>; from bradym@balestra.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:14:08PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:14:08PM -0800, Brady Montz wrote: > > Here's an update ... > > I'm fairly certain there's a kernel bug at work here. Last night I rebooted > to linux (which is on the same disk), and ran batch compiles all > night long without any troubles. In comparision, I can't compile more than > an hour at a time with BSD 4.4 before it crashes. I still agree. My -current machines run find, and I refuse to run -stable on an SMP machine. > > I am running the latest 4.4-stable. The other day I went back to 4.4-release > and that didn't help. I've tried both with and without softupdates. The > crashes seem to happen most often when accessing stuff from all over > the filesystem, such as during a large "make clean", or most reliably, with > "portsdb -Uu". > > I am tiring of this. Someone else on this thread mentioned that > their 5.0 machine is doing fine. In what shape is that and how much effort > is it to move a 4.4 machine to 5.0? Unless you feel confident that you can deal with the problems that arise on -current, I wouldn't want to be the one to recommend that you change, but my personal experience has been that -stable is anything but stable on SMP machines. On UP machines I have no problems at all. The -current SMP machines here are all very stable. I don't track it daily, and I am careful to build a test box before I rebuild a box I care about, but generally I have been much happier with -current than with -stable (this year). As for the effort to upgrade, it depends on what the box is doing. I've only upgraded a few boxes in the last year or so, and found that it was fairly timing dependant, but in general I haven't had any real problems (read UPDATING). I have a little time this afternoon, so I'm going to see if I can figure something out. I'll throw -stable onto one of my SMP development machines and see if I can kill it. At least there I can debug it. A small plug: I've written a script that will rebuild an entire machine, from a cvsup -> mergemaster and reboot. It doesn't really address anything to do with this thread, but you might find it handy :) http://www.acns.ab.ca/projects/rebuild/rebuild.tar.gz -- Chad David davidc@acns.ab.ca ACNS Inc. Calgary, Alberta Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C3E37B422 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHLXJg39627; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200112172133.fBHLXJg39627@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: bradym@balestra.org, davidc@acns.ab.ca Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011217142115.A45797@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 >From: Chad David >I still agree. My -current machines run find, and I refuse to run -stable on >an SMP machine. For whatever it may be worth, my "build machine" (which is one of the machines on which I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily) is an SMP box. It also has a local CVS repository on it (from which I update the CVS repository on my laptop, which laso tracks -STABLE and -CURRENT daily). I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I believe it would be irresponsible (and thus, unethical) for me to advise, recommend, or support the use of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product for any purpose other than personal amusement. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:36:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA2A37B41B for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.spectraweb.ch (abo-mu-1-2-dialup-246.spectraweb.ch [194.230.154.246]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id fBHLa9m22401; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:36:09 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.spectraweb.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHMhSE01831; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:43:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcservi@spectraweb.ch) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:43:20 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing=2E_Anton=EDn_Walter?= Cc: Guido Kollerie , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice5.2 Message-ID: <20011217234320.C1742@spectraweb.ch> Reply-To: Martin Schweizer References: <20011217133548.A33045@kinchenna.kollerie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from walter@walter.anet.cz on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:35:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Antonin I've tested also serveral time but with no success. Afterwoods I used the original SUN cd-rom. Do you have one? On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:35:46PM +0100 Ing. Antonín Walter wrote: > maybe I did not use the correct word in english, but > > on using the port you have suggested it first downloaded the 97GB file of > staroffice and the tried to download this > > 109939-02.tar.Z > > file but it was not available at any location the port was looking at -- Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:45:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.acns.ab.ca (h24-64-56-135.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.56.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8231037B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from colnta.acns.ab.ca (colnta.acns.ab.ca [192.168.1.2]) by mail.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBHLjfS03525; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:45:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc@colnta.acns.ab.ca) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by colnta.acns.ab.ca (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fBHLjfO45992; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:45:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from davidc) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:45:41 -0700 From: Chad David To: David Wolfskill Cc: bradym@balestra.org, davidc@acns.ab.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217144541.A45973@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , bradym@balestra.org, davidc@acns.ab.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011217142115.A45797@colnta.acns.ab.ca> <200112172133.fBHLXJg39627@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112172133.fBHLXJg39627@bunrab.catwhisker.org>; from david@catwhisker.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 > >From: Chad David > > >I still agree. My -current machines run find, and I refuse to run -stable on > >an SMP machine. > > For whatever it may be worth, my "build machine" (which is one of the > machines on which I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily) is an SMP box. > It also has a local CVS repository on it (from which I update the CVS > repository on my laptop, which laso tracks -STABLE and -CURRENT daily). > > I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. It might be worth a lot :). It is possible that I and a few others have bad hardware, and there is no problem with -stable. It seems unlikely, but it is not at all impossible I guess. Are you running any combination of samba/nfs/ata? Thanks -- Chad David davidc@acns.ab.ca ACNS Inc. Calgary, Alberta Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:58:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7447237B421 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHLwEj39709; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200112172158.fBHLwEj39709@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: david@catwhisker.org, davidc@acns.ab.ca Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Cc: bradym@balestra.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011217144541.A45973@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:45:41 -0700 >From: Chad David >> I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. >It might be worth a lot :). It is possible that I and a few others have >bad hardware, and there is no problem with -stable. It seems unlikely, >but it is not at all impossible I guess. >Are you running any combination of samba/nfs/ata? ATA, yes -- sole disk in the machine is of that persuasion. (Well, it's usually the sole disk. I soometimes stuff another ATA drive in the machine, for copying things....) NFS, yes, but rather light duty. (When I decide to upgrade one of the other boxen, I'll mount the build machine's /usr/src & /usr/obj & just do the "make install{kernel,world}" && mergmaster on the target, rather than re-building on the slower machine. I do this once per fortnight.) Samba -- no. (Wouldn't know how to determine if it works.) The machine is fairly seriously underutilized most of the time. And as noted, I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily, so it's not running the same OS for more than 20 consecutive hours. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I believe it would be irresponsible (and thus, unethical) for me to advise, recommend, or support the use of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product for any purpose other than personal amusement. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 13:58:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.thinkburst.com (ns.thinkburst.com [204.214.64.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE42737B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [204.214.64.100]) by ns.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F79B14 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:59:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by gateway.thinkburstmedia.com id <119046>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:58:10 -0600 From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "'David Wolfskill'" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:00:06 -0600 Message-Id: <01Dec17.155810cst.119046@gateway.thinkburstmedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <20011217144541.A45973@colnta.acns.ab.ca> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> For whatever it may be worth, my "build machine" (which is one of the >> machines on which I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily) is an SMP box. >> It also has a local CVS repository on it (from which I update the CVS >> repository on my laptop, which laso tracks -STABLE and -CURRENT daily). >> >> I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. > >It might be worth a lot :). It is possible that I and a few others have >bad hardware, and there is no problem with -stable. It seems unlikely, >but it is not at all impossible I guess. > >Are you running any combination of samba/nfs/ata? I wanted to add to this thread as well. On our internal Samba server (running a recent Stable build with ATA - no SCSI), a large "delete files" from within Explorer on a Windows 2000 machine caused the system to reboot. No warnings, no messages, no nothing, just a reboot. Wasn't sure what happened until I brought it up and the same employee tried to delete the same directories again. Another reboot. Using rm on the directories from a tcsh prompt worked fine. Jaime Bozza GeoComm International Corp. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 14: 4:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00337B419 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBHM4FM73064 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:04:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:04:15 -0600 From: mikea To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217160415.A73036@mikea.ath.cx> References: <20011217144541.A45973@colnta.acns.ab.ca> <01Dec17.155810cst.119046@gateway.thinkburstmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01Dec17.155810cst.119046@gateway.thinkburstmedia.com>; from jbozza@thinkburst.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:00:06PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:00:06PM -0600, Jaime Bozza wrote: > >> For whatever it may be worth, my "build machine" (which is one of the > >> machines on which I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily) is an SMP > box. > >> It also has a local CVS repository on it (from which I update the CVS > >> repository on my laptop, which laso tracks -STABLE and -CURRENT > daily). > >> > >> I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. > > > >It might be worth a lot :). It is possible that I and a few others > have > >bad hardware, and there is no problem with -stable. It seems unlikely, > >but it is not at all impossible I guess. > > > >Are you running any combination of samba/nfs/ata? > > I wanted to add to this thread as well. On our internal Samba server > (running a recent Stable build with ATA - no SCSI), a large "delete > files" from within Explorer on a Windows 2000 machine caused the system > to reboot. No warnings, no messages, no nothing, just a reboot. > > Wasn't sure what happened until I brought it up and the same employee > tried to delete the same directories again. Another reboot. > > Using rm on the directories from a tcsh prompt worked fine. Just as a data point on when things might have begun to go wrong, my SMP machine uses ATA UDMA-66 drives, SAMBA and SMBFS, and I can't remember ever having anything like the problems described in this thread. My last build was October 28th. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 14: 5:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clever.eusc.inter.net (clever.eusc.inter.net [213.73.101.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243B237B41F for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:05:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tc07-n66-087.de.inter.net ([213.73.66.87] helo=there) by clever.eusc.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 16G5su-0003Nr-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:05:20 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthias Schuendehuette Reply-To: msch@snafu.de Organization: Micro$oft-free Zone To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: isp-device broken? Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:05:19 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, all I can say is, that the ISDN isp-device is not working any more with kernels past 15th December 2001. It *does* work with the actual Userland and a kernel of Dec 8th. It's perfectly reproducable, so a misconfiguration is excluded. In more detail: The device dials out, authenticates correct and gets his dynamic IP-Address but there's no traffic possible after that, i.e. no 'ping', 'traceroute' is locked and 'tcpdump -i isp0' absolutely quiet. But isdnd shows some packets going around... What I saw is, that jlemon changed src/sys/i4b/driver/ispppsubr.c on Dec. 14th (but it doesn't work with the former version either), so perhaps he (or someone other?) has an idea of what could evetually have broken 'isp'.... Ciao/BSD - Matthias -- *************************************************************************** * Matthias Schuendehuette msch@snafu.de * * Solmsstrasse 44 * * D-10961 Berlin Engineering Systems Support and Operation * * Germany (Powered by FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE) * *************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 14: 6:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2D6037B421 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 17 Dec 2001 22:05:47 +0000 (GMT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:13:36 GMT." <200112171413.aa87921@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:05:47 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200112172205.aa56337@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200112171413.aa87921@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>, Ian Dowse writes: >I tried Matt's suggestion of moving some NFS macros into functions, >and it looks we can get 10k or so off the compressed kernel that >way by changing just 4 macros. Here's the basic NFS patch, which takes approx 8.5k off the compressed size of the floppy kernel. It splits the macros nfsm_build(), nfsm_dissect(), nfsm_postop_attr(), nfsm_wcc_data(), nfsm_fhtom() and nfsm_v3attrbuild() each into a function and a wrapper macro. The functions are as close as possible to being identical to the corresponding functions in -current, so this would effectively be a partial MFC of some of the changes there (one exception is a simplification of the handling of the `tl' variable, which I hope to commit to -current first). Applying this causes a large number of local variables throughout the NFS code to become unused, and it also generates a lot of `address of register variable X requested' compiler warnings. Since those require purely mechanical changes, that part of the patch is not included below. Any comments? Is this worth doing for 8.5k, or should we just ditch some more drivers from GENERIC? Ian Index: nfs_subs.c =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/nfs/Attic/nfs_subs.c,v retrieving revision 1.90.2.2 diff -u -r1.90.2.2 nfs_subs.c --- nfs_subs.c 2001/10/25 19:18:53 1.90.2.2 +++ nfs_subs.c 2001/12/17 21:28:18 @@ -2154,6 +2154,190 @@ splx(s); } +void * +nfsm_build_xx(int s, struct mbuf **mb, caddr_t *bpos) +{ + struct mbuf *mb2; + void *ret; + + if (s > M_TRAILINGSPACE(*mb)) { + MGET(mb2, M_WAIT, MT_DATA); + if (s > MLEN) + panic("build > MLEN"); + (*mb)->m_next = mb2; + *mb = mb2; + (*mb)->m_len = 0; + *bpos = mtod(*mb, caddr_t); + } + ret = *bpos; + (*mb)->m_len += s; + *bpos += s; + return ret; +} + +void * +nfsm_dissect_xx(int s, struct mbuf **md, caddr_t *dpos) +{ + int t1; + char *cp2; + void *ret; + + t1 = mtod(*md, caddr_t) + (*md)->m_len - *dpos; + if (t1 >= s) { + ret = *dpos; + *dpos += s; + return ret; + } + if (nfsm_disct(md, dpos, s, t1, &cp2) != 0) + return NULL; + return cp2; +} + +int +nfsm_postop_attr_xx(struct vnode **v, int *f, struct mbuf **md, + caddr_t *dpos) +{ + u_int32_t *tl; + int t1; + + struct vnode *ttvp = *v; + tl = nfsm_dissect_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, md, dpos); + if (tl == NULL) + return EBADRPC; + *f = fxdr_unsigned(int, *tl); + if (*f != 0) { + t1 = nfs_loadattrcache(&ttvp, md, dpos, (struct vattr *)0, 1); + if (t1 != 0) { + *f = 0; + return t1; + } + *v = ttvp; + } + return 0; +} + +int +nfsm_wcc_data_xx(struct vnode **v, int *f, struct mbuf **md, caddr_t *dpos) +{ + u_int32_t *tl; + int ttattrf, ttretf = 0; + int t1; + + tl = nfsm_dissect_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, md, dpos); + if (tl == NULL) + return EBADRPC; + if (*tl == nfs_true) { + tl = nfsm_dissect_xx(6 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, md, dpos); + if (tl == NULL) + return EBADRPC; + if (*f) + ttretf = (VTONFS(*v)->n_mtime == + fxdr_unsigned(u_int32_t, *(tl + 2))); + } + t1 = nfsm_postop_attr_xx(v, &ttattrf, md, dpos); + if (t1) + return t1; + if (*f) + *f = ttretf; + else + *f = ttattrf; + return 0; +} + +int +nfsm_fhtom_xx(struct vnode *v, int v3, struct mbuf **mb, caddr_t *bpos) +{ + u_int32_t *tl; + int t1; + caddr_t cp; + + if (v3) { + t1 = nfsm_rndup(VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize) + NFSX_UNSIGNED; + if (t1 < M_TRAILINGSPACE(*mb)) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(t1, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize); + *(tl + ((t1 >> 2) - 2)) = 0; + bcopy(VTONFS(v)->n_fhp, tl, VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize); + } else { + t1 = nfsm_strtmbuf(mb, bpos, + (const char *)VTONFS(v)->n_fhp, + VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize); + if (t1 != 0) + return t1; + } + } else { + cp = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_V2FH, mb, bpos); + bcopy(VTONFS(v)->n_fhp, cp, NFSX_V2FH); + } + return 0; +} + +void +nfsm_v3attrbuild_xx(struct vattr *va, int full, struct mbuf **mb, + caddr_t *bpos) +{ + u_int32_t *tl; + + if (va->va_mode != (mode_t)VNOVAL) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = nfs_true; + *tl = txdr_unsigned(va->va_mode); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = nfs_false; + } + if (full && va->va_uid != (uid_t)VNOVAL) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = nfs_true; + *tl = txdr_unsigned(va->va_uid); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = nfs_false; + } + if (full && va->va_gid != (gid_t)VNOVAL) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = nfs_true; + *tl = txdr_unsigned(va->va_gid); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = nfs_false; + } + if (full && va->va_size != VNOVAL) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = nfs_true; + txdr_hyper(va->va_size, tl); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = nfs_false; + } + if (va->va_atime.tv_sec != VNOVAL) { + if (va->va_atime.tv_sec != time_second) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOCLIENT); + txdr_nfsv3time(&va->va_atime, tl); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOSERVER); + } + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_DONTCHANGE); + } + if (va->va_mtime.tv_sec != VNOVAL) { + if (va->va_mtime.tv_sec != time_second) { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOCLIENT); + txdr_nfsv3time(&va->va_mtime, tl); + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOSERVER); + } + } else { + tl = nfsm_build_xx(NFSX_UNSIGNED, mb, bpos); + *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_DONTCHANGE); + } +} + #ifndef NFS_NOSERVER /* * Map errnos to NFS error numbers. For Version 3 also filter out error Index: nfsm_subs.h =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/nfs/Attic/nfsm_subs.h,v retrieving revision 1.27.2.1 diff -u -r1.27.2.1 nfsm_subs.h --- nfsm_subs.h 2000/10/28 16:27:27 1.27.2.1 +++ nfsm_subs.h 2001/12/17 19:33:42 @@ -60,6 +60,16 @@ int verf_len, char *verf_str, struct mbuf *mrest, int mrest_len, struct mbuf **mbp, u_int32_t *xidp)); +void *nfsm_build_xx __P((int s, struct mbuf **mbp, caddr_t *bposp)); +void *nfsm_dissect_xx __P((int s, struct mbuf **mdp, caddr_t *dposp)); +int nfsm_fhtom_xx __P((struct vnode *v, int v3, struct mbuf **mbp, + caddr_t *bposp)); +int nfsm_postop_attr_xx __P((struct vnode **vp, int *f, struct mbuf **mdp, + caddr_t *dposp)); +int nfsm_wcc_data_xx __P((struct vnode **vp, int *f, struct mbuf **mdp, + caddr_t *dposp)); +void nfsm_v3attrbuild_xx __P((struct vattr *va, int full, struct mbuf **mbp, + caddr_t *bposp)); #define M_HASCL(m) ((m)->m_flags & M_EXT) #define NFSMINOFF(m) \ @@ -92,56 +102,26 @@ */ #define nfsm_build(a,c,s) \ - do { \ - if ((s) > M_TRAILINGSPACE(mb)) { \ - MGET(mb2, M_WAIT, MT_DATA); \ - if ((s) > MLEN) \ - panic("build > MLEN"); \ - mb->m_next = mb2; \ - mb = mb2; \ - mb->m_len = 0; \ - bpos = mtod(mb, caddr_t); \ - } \ - (a) = (c)(bpos); \ - mb->m_len += (s); \ - bpos += (s); \ - } while (0) + (a) = (c)nfsm_build_xx(s, &mb, &bpos); #define nfsm_dissect(a, c, s) \ do { \ - t1 = mtod(md, caddr_t)+md->m_len-dpos; \ - if (t1 >= (s)) { \ - (a) = (c)(dpos); \ - dpos += (s); \ - } else if ((t1 = nfsm_disct(&md, &dpos, (s), t1, &cp2)) != 0){ \ - error = t1; \ + void *ret; \ + ret = nfsm_dissect_xx(s, &md, &dpos); \ + if (ret == NULL) { \ + error = EBADRPC; \ m_freem(mrep); \ goto nfsmout; \ - } else { \ - (a) = (c)cp2; \ } \ + (a) = (c)ret; \ } while (0) #define nfsm_fhtom(v, v3) \ do { \ - if (v3) { \ - t2 = nfsm_rndup(VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize) + NFSX_UNSIGNED; \ - if (t2 <= M_TRAILINGSPACE(mb)) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, t2); \ - *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize); \ - *(tl + ((t2>>2) - 2)) = 0; \ - bcopy((caddr_t)VTONFS(v)->n_fhp,(caddr_t)tl, \ - VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize); \ - } else if ((t2 = nfsm_strtmbuf(&mb, &bpos, \ - (caddr_t)VTONFS(v)->n_fhp, \ - VTONFS(v)->n_fhsize)) != 0) { \ - error = t2; \ - m_freem(mreq); \ - goto nfsmout; \ - } \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(cp, caddr_t, NFSX_V2FH); \ - bcopy((caddr_t)VTONFS(v)->n_fhp, cp, NFSX_V2FH); \ + if ((t2 = nfsm_fhtom_xx(v, v3, &mb, &bpos)) != 0) { \ + error = t2; \ + m_freem(mreq); \ + goto nfsmout; \ } \ } while (0) @@ -222,17 +202,11 @@ #define nfsm_postop_attr(v, f) \ do { \ - struct vnode *ttvp = (v); \ - nfsm_dissect(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - if (((f) = fxdr_unsigned(int, *tl)) != 0) { \ - if ((t1 = nfs_loadattrcache(&ttvp, &md, &dpos, \ - (struct vattr *)0, 1)) != 0) { \ - error = t1; \ - (f) = 0; \ - m_freem(mrep); \ - goto nfsmout; \ - } \ - (v) = ttvp; \ + if ((t1 = nfsm_postop_attr_xx(&(v), &(f), &md, \ + &dpos)) != 0) { \ + error = t1; \ + m_freem(mrep); \ + goto nfsmout; \ } \ } while (0) @@ -242,85 +216,19 @@ #define nfsm_wcc_data(v, f) \ do { \ - int ttattrf, ttretf = 0; \ - nfsm_dissect(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - if (*tl == nfs_true) { \ - nfsm_dissect(tl, u_int32_t *, 6 * NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - if (f) \ - ttretf = (VTONFS(v)->n_mtime == \ - fxdr_unsigned(u_int32_t, *(tl + 2))); \ - } \ - nfsm_postop_attr((v), ttattrf); \ - if (f) { \ - (f) = ttretf; \ - } else { \ - (f) = ttattrf; \ + t1 = nfsm_wcc_data_xx(&(v), &(f), &(md), &(dpos)); \ + if (t1) { \ + error = t1; \ + m_freem(mrep); \ + goto nfsmout; \ } \ } while (0) /* If full is true, set all fields, otherwise just set mode and time fields */ #define nfsm_v3attrbuild(a, full) \ do { \ - if ((a)->va_mode != (mode_t)VNOVAL) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl++ = nfs_true; \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned((a)->va_mode); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = nfs_false; \ - } \ - if ((full) && (a)->va_uid != (uid_t)VNOVAL) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl++ = nfs_true; \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned((a)->va_uid); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = nfs_false; \ - } \ - if ((full) && (a)->va_gid != (gid_t)VNOVAL) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 2 * NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl++ = nfs_true; \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned((a)->va_gid); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = nfs_false; \ - } \ - if ((full) && (a)->va_size != VNOVAL) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl++ = nfs_true; \ - txdr_hyper((a)->va_size, tl); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = nfs_false; \ - } \ - if ((a)->va_atime.tv_sec != VNOVAL) { \ - if ((a)->va_atime.tv_sec != time_second) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED);\ - *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOCLIENT);\ - txdr_nfsv3time(&(a)->va_atime, tl); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOSERVER); \ - } \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_DONTCHANGE); \ - } \ - if ((a)->va_mtime.tv_sec != VNOVAL) { \ - if ((a)->va_mtime.tv_sec != time_second) { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, 3 * NFSX_UNSIGNED);\ - *tl++ = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOCLIENT);\ - txdr_nfsv3time(&(a)->va_mtime, tl); \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_TOSERVER); \ - } \ - } else { \ - nfsm_build(tl, u_int32_t *, NFSX_UNSIGNED); \ - *tl = txdr_unsigned(NFSV3SATTRTIME_DONTCHANGE); \ - } \ + nfsm_v3attrbuild_xx(a, full, &mb, &bpos); \ } while (0) - #define nfsm_strsiz(s,m) \ do { \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 14:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E298937B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBHMVAE39548; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:31:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:31:10 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Joe Warner Cc: Subject: Re: Make Installworld fills up / ...help! In-Reply-To: <3C1DEE62.50448980@attbi.com> Message-ID: X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Joe Warner wrote: > I was going to post this to -questions but this list seemed > more appropriate after searching the archives. If I'm in > error, please let me know and I'll redirect it to -questions. > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE on my home PC. > Yesterday, I did the usual cvsrun to download the source > for the 4.4-STABLE branch and began my monthly > "make buildworld". I have done this many times without > a problem. Before I started, my / slice was at 89% > capacity but when I dropped to single user mode and > started the "make installworld", I got a couple of "stop" > errors saying that / was full. You probably have a small / and are getting bit by softupdates. Run 'sync' a lot while the install is running, or remount / without softupdates. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 14:48:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCFC37B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.123.57] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id mizdaaaa for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:48:19 +1100 Message-ID: <3C1E7650.7030808@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:48:48 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lawrence Farr Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Read timeouts on Audio extraction References: <004401c18721$2c696620$c806a8c0@lfarr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lawrence Farr wrote: > Im trying to extract CD Audio to a wav file using dagrab, and get: > > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > ata3: resetting devices .. done > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > ata3: resetting devices .. done > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > ata3: resetting devices .. done > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > ata3: resetting devices .. done Iv never had much luck with dagrab... I remember I switched to using something else and it worked much better, dunno what that was tho... Its in the ports some place... This resetting thing always used to happen, but it never stoped the files getting ripped that I remember and didnt cause any skipping or anything like that ether... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 15:37: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ADD37B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc1-stme2-0-cust102.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.252.56.102]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20011217233653.FZLD2135.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@pc1-stme2-0-cust102.cdf.cable.ntl.com>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:36:53 +0000 Received: from lfarr (snorlax.bka.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.10.200]) by pc1-stme2-0-cust102.cdf.cable.ntl.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBHNao058677; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:36:50 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-net@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Kal Torak'" , "'Lawrence Farr'" Cc: Subject: RE: Read timeouts on Audio extraction Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:36:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c18753$b647d200$c80aa8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 In-Reply-To: <3C1E7650.7030808@quake.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't get anything unfortunately. Just a 4k file. It used to be quite happy till recent buildworlds. This ones from today. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Kal Torak > Sent: 17 December 2001 22:49 > To: Lawrence Farr > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Read timeouts on Audio extraction > > > Lawrence Farr wrote: > > > Im trying to extract CD Audio to a wav file using dagrab, and get: > > > > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > > ata3: resetting devices .. done > > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > > ata3: resetting devices .. done > > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > > ata3: resetting devices .. done > > acd0: READ_CD command timeout - resetting > > ata3: resetting devices .. done > > > Iv never had much luck with dagrab... I remember I switched to using > something else and it worked much better, dunno what that was tho... > Its in the ports some place... > > This resetting thing always used to happen, but it never > stoped the files > getting ripped that I remember and didnt cause any skipping > or anything > like that ether... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 17: 7: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A884837B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBI15cZ96307; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:35:42 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200112172205.aa56337@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:35:37 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Ian Dowse Subject: Re: Waaaarg, we just blew out the kernel again.. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-Dec-2001 Ian Dowse wrote: > Applying this causes a large number of local variables throughout > the NFS code to become unused, and it also generates a lot of > `address of register variable X requested' compiler warnings. > Since those require purely mechanical changes, that part of the > patch is not included below. > > Any comments? Is this worth doing for 8.5k, or should we just > ditch some more drivers from GENERIC? Surely removing some KLD'able drivers would be simpler? I submitted a patch (it was committed to -current, not sure about stable) which allows you to load kld's off a floppy. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 17:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.kingsquarry.net (host33-57.prestige.net [63.88.156.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D8F37B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars.kingsquarry.net (mars.kingsquarry.net [192.168.1.192]) by neptune.kingsquarry.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with SMTP id fBI1Gto76880; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:16:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jdoolittle@kingsquarry.net) Message-Id: <200112180116.fBI1Gto76880@neptune.kingsquarry.net> From: "Jeffrey Doolittle" To: "David Wolfskill" Cc: "bradym@balestra.org" , "davidc@acns.ab.ca" , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:16:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey Doolittle" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) In-Reply-To: <20011217144541.A45973@colnta.acns.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:45:41 -0700, Chad David wrote: >On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: >> >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 >> >From: Chad David >> >> >I still agree. My -current machines run find, and I refuse to run -stable on >> >an SMP machine. >> >> For whatever it may be worth, my "build machine" (which is one of the >> machines on which I track both -STABLE and -CURRENT daily) is an SMP box. >> It also has a local CVS repository on it (from which I update the CVS >> repository on my laptop, which laso tracks -STABLE and -CURRENT daily). >> >> I am not having any problems with -STABLE that I know of. > >It might be worth a lot :). It is possible that I and a few others have >bad hardware, and there is no problem with -stable. It seems unlikely, >but it is not at all impossible I guess. Well to chime in with the others: - Currently running 4.4-STABLE (Nov 29th) - ATA devices: CD-ROM and ZIP drive - SCSI devices: Adaptec 29160 w/2 IBM Ultra160 18gig drives - SAMBA: Yes (it's primary use!) - NFS: No - Printers: 1 Parallel and 1 USB The machine is an IBM IntelliStation M-Pro series w/Dual P2-333 & 192 meg ECC RAM. The main purpose of the machine is our file, print, and mail server, I have a smaller box acting as our router/firewall to the Internet. I've never had any problems with mysterious reboots on this platform in the past six months. The following are some lines from "dmesg": ********** FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 29 14:27:27 EST 2001 jdoolittle@kingsquarry.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEPTUNE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (333.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x650 Stepping = 0 Features=0x183fbff real memory = 201314304 (196596K bytes) ..... Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 ..... APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ..... ********** -- Jeff Doolittle (jdoolittle@kingsquarry.net) http://www.kingsquarry.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 18:28:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42A337B416 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (palevsky-88-222.rh.uchicago.edu [128.135.88.222]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBI2RvV14498; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:28:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C1EA9AB.1080308@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:27:55 -0600 From: Devon Ryan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011204 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Schweizer Cc: "Ing. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anton=EDn?= Walter" , Guido Kollerie , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice5.2 References: <20011217133548.A33045@kinchenna.kollerie.nl> <20011217234320.C1742@spectraweb.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Antonin >=20 > I've tested also serveral time but with no success. Afterwoods I used t= he=20 > original SUN cd-rom. Do you have one? >=20 > On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:35:46PM +0100 Ing. Anton=EDn Walter wrote: >=20 >>maybe I did not use the correct word in english, but >> >>on using the port you have suggested it first downloaded the 97GB file = of >>staroffice and the tried to download this >> >>109939-02.tar.Z >> >>file but it was not available at any location the port was looking at >> >=20 ftp://ftp.sunsite.auc.dk/disk3/sun-patches/109939-03.tar.Z Looks like it is the updated version of the patch which is supposed to=20 be included. I'd edit the Makefile and use this instead (or just change = the filename or something). --=20 Devon Ryan | dpryan@midway.uchicago.edu Biology/Neuroscience, Pre-med | http://home.uchicago.edu/~dpryan SG Unix Systems Administrator | dpryan@sg.uchicago.edu Max Palevsky RCA | rca-palevsky@rh.uchicago.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 18:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC3B37B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from attbi.com ([12.254.218.32]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011218023512.YZLI10701.rwcrmhc53.attbi.