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Date:      Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:44:41 +1000
From:      Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: System crash on "vinum start"
Message-ID:  <99Oct1.094141est.40344@border.alcanet.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990930182053.0219b760@207.227.119.2>
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On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:20:53AM +1000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:
>At 12:59 PM 9/28/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>>On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:11:31AM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>  Good software shouldn't panic.
>>I wish _I_ could convince some people of this :-(.
>
>It can be difficult to consider what a user can do and tends to bloat the
>code a bit.  Frustrates my instructors, since it very much a habit when I
>script and carried over to C. 8-)

I was thinking of some `production' code (written by a sister company)
that I used to provide customer support for.  It would regularly core
dump (but was automatically restarted).  After a few years they did
manage to fix the core dump, but that exposed a memory leak which they
never did manage to fix (fairly embarrasing in a supposedly
permanently running process).

>Speaking of, why is (would) root filesystem support necessary for non
>root/swap automagical recovery.

I gather that root support is the most-asked-for feature in Vinum (when
I asked Greg about it some weeks ago, I got about as far as `when will
Vinum' before he answered me).  As long as recovery works, making it
nicer to use is (should be) a lower priority.

Peter
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Alcatel Australia Limited
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