Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:09:57 +0100 From: Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za> To: Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/perl5 MAINTAIN README.posix-bc Todo-5.005 XSlock.h bytecode.h byterun.c byterun.h ebcdic.c interp.sym myconfig objpp.h perl_exp.SH thread.sym src/contrib/perl5/eg/cgi dna.small.gif.uu wilogo.gif.uu src/contrib/perl5/ext/B byteperl.c ... Message-ID: <200204301609.g3UG9voI029969@grimreaper.grondar.org> In-Reply-To: <20020430144050.GA41263@submonkey.net> ; from Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> "Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:40:50 BST." References: <20020430144050.GA41263@submonkey.net>
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> Another argument that I expressed earlier is that the current situation does > not seem to comply with the Artistic license under which we are shipping Perl > (at least I don't see the LGPL in the repo so I assume we've chosen the more > friendly Artistic license). I disagree with that as well. The commit logs have the removal notice. > Another would be that I don't see any reason for removing the files, and > thereby shipping with an incomplete Perl suite, at all. 1) Bloat 2) Maintenance 3) Relevance > It probably doesn't make life any easier for the people at bugs.perl.org who > may have to make special provision for everyone running FreeBSD since they > don't have all the standard modules installed. Nothing depends on CGI, so that reduces it to the same situation as the modules in ports/ > And surely the whole point of the people who do hack on perl making a Perl > distribution with standard modules bundled in is to make the general Perl > environment more usable from scratch. Mine is to make the Perl/FreeBSD merge as consistent as possible with the needs of "base" FreeBSD. > Also, there's the possibility that if I do install the CGI.pm port, and later > decide that I would like to install the perl port to get the latest version of > perl, I'll suddenly see my CGI.pm being downgraded as the version with the perl > port will be older than the one from the CGI.pm port which I never wanted to > go to the trouble of installing anyway. Sure. That happens in ports. [X]Emacs has that problem. Apache has that problem. > And to make me really look like a psycho: if removing files that FreeBSD does > not need in the base system is so important that we're willing to put admins to > extra trouble just to use a *standard* tool, then I cannot see any reason > whatsoever for the continued existence of src/games, and would further suggest > that time would be better spent removing the perl requirement altogether from > the base system so that perl can be removed. I am symaptetic to all of that, and would not object to any of it. > Now that I've ranted I'll try not to respond to this thread again unless I'm > either saying sorry or have run round the block ten times before hitting send. > I promise. :-) M -- o Mark Murray \_ O.\_ Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn #text/plain; name=cv.doc [Mark Murray CV Plain Text] cv.doc #application/octet-stream; name=cv.pdf [Mark Murray CV PDF] cv.pdf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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