From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 21:21:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD521065675; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917B78FC19; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 543FA3CCE; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.11; tzolkin = 7 Chuen; haab = 4 Chen Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:21:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:10 -0400") Message-ID: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:21:13 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. Jules> (It's called Open Source.) And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in Oracle's bed. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion