From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Nov 27 14:39:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096F937B4C5 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 140WwB-0002ym-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:39:51 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eARMd2R02442; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:39:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:39:02 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: arch@freebsd.org, rps@merlin.mat.uc.pt Subject: Re: Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro: erase2 patch (was: 4.2-RELEASE ISO image for x86 updated.) Message-ID: <20001127233902.C2402@freebie.demon.nl> References: <52694.975362925@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <52694.975362925@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 02:08:45PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 02:08:45PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: If you ever used DEC or Sun terminals/keyboards you will like this idea. I, for one, like it ;-) As for technical elegance.. W/ > I just received this today and am kind of scratching my head over it. > On one hand, creating an "alias" for a one specific piece of terminal > character mapping seems a hack; I can see the idea behind wanting to > use one of n characters for something like backspacing or line-killing > (^U or ^X for example) and would not frown (as much) on a more general > aliasing feature. On the other hand, I can see that this specific > case (erase) is by far the most significant. Which is why I'm > forwarding this to arch - this is one of those classic > architecture/feature trade-off decisions and I would like to hear more > opinions before deciding which way I'd like to respond to this. > > - Jordan > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: rps@merlin.mat.uc.pt > Delivery-Date: Mon Nov 27 12:02:08 2000 > Return-Path: > Received: from merlin.mat.uc.pt (merlin-f.mat.uc.pt [193.137.206.2]) > by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eARK25h52306 > for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:02:05 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from rps@merlin.mat.uc.pt) > Received: (from rps@localhost) > by merlin.mat.uc.pt (8.9.3/8.9.0) id UAA06153; > Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:01:52 GMT > Message-ID: <20001127200149.05857@merlin.mat.uc.pt> > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:01:49 +0000 > From: Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro > To: Jordan Hubbard > Subject: erase2 patch (was: 4.2-RELEASE ISO image for x86 updated.) > References: <20001122191141.50422@merlin.mat.uc.pt> <80298.974921931@winston.osd.bsdi.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i > In-Reply-To: <80298.974921931@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from Jordan Hubbard on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 11:38:51AM -0800 > > I am not sure if you are the proper person to send this: > > One thing that has bothered me since a long time ago is the two confliting > standards for the erase character: ^H (backspace) and ^? (del). > > Years ago I used a Convex (mini-super-)computer which solved the problem > in an elegant way. stty(1) had an extra option for a erase2 character. > So you could have both usual erase chars working simultaneously. ... -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message