From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 22:44:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4241106566B; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA818FC1B; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8B9E5C024; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:44:50 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDCD55CE3D9; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:44:50 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ca+h1OLRzUzq; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:44:45 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (adsl-76-237-33-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.237.33.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0D5155CE3D3; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:44:42 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WJaxvYLS/kXuKHZYyCeQetmQ9W8Su27jO+wxzGA0lEdLqwA0BRpMW5UlQBeRrvWpx KrFOg4usF7mtcSjtWWaug== Message-ID: <4ACBC857.2030207@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:44:39 -0700 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091004) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wesley Shields References: <20091004141118.GG95662@syndicate.internationalconspiracy.org> <4AC8F7EF.9010303@FreeBSD.org> <20091005135842.GA8629@atarininja.org> In-Reply-To: <20091005135842.GA8629@atarininja.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alex Trull , Doug Barton , freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (Ab)using rcng's features to keep rc.d-style services running should they fail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:44:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wesley Shields wrote: > On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 12:30:55PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> Alex Trull wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I realised that because portupgrade/portmaster don't always >>> cleanly restart processes that have died due to being >>> upgraded (mysqld, often!) that this was something I wanted >>> to fix. >> I can't speak to portupgrade, however for portmaster there is no such >> facility whatsoever. The admin is expected to disable things prior to >> an upgrade and re-enable them when the upgrade is done. I don't feel >> that this is an overwhelming burden. :) > > There is the @stopdaemon directive in plists (which gets translated into > @unexec to forcestop the script). Some ports use it and some do not. > Personally I think ports doing this automatically are quite annoying, > and would love to rip them all out from the ports. Something like > portmaster growing support for it would be welcome provided it does not > happen by default. +1 I think this feature should be user-controllable (or, the 'make install' should be 'restart'ing the rc.d script at very least). Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrLyFcACgkQi+vbBBjt66DZ5QCfU3LSI+RiZwJv3huFx4wd3QNe UUsAn37vdhs30y+2eE/HLaw424CS7dMh =1FW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----