From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 20 14:47:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D4D14FC1 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25162; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:47:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA77620; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:47:10 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:47:10 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: David Schwartz Cc: "G. Adam Stanislav" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPL alternatives Message-ID: <19990520234710.J76043@bitbox.follo.net> References: <19990520155519.B235@whizkidtech.net> <000501bea308$a5fd9d80$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <000501bea308$a5fd9d80$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to>; from David Schwartz on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:35:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:35:15PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > Why yes, the BSD license is the best. I certainly do not have any > > objections > > against it. Heck, I use it all the time. It is the GPL that this whole > > thread is about. We were talking about what kind of letter could be sent > > to authors using GPL. Netscape license was suggested as an alternative, to > > which I opined that the artistic license might be a better choice. It is > > philosophically similar to the GPL, but without the Borg stuff. > > I have serious problems with the BSD license. My biggest one is that it > requires you to foist a disclaimer on your customer. This makes it > intolerable for companies like mine who take responsibility for their > software. > > I wish the BSD license allowed you two options: > > 1) You indemnify the author and make no representations about > the original author, or > > 2) You make your customers indemnify the author, and you > accurately credit/blame the code on the original author. > > However, the BSD license only permits the second option. You can copyright your modifications and take any blame for them. It is just the original, unmodified code that is disclaimed. Dropping the disclaimer do not seem like an option, due to US law even allowing you to sue and recover damages from people that have released code in the public domain (!). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message