From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 09:38:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4BD445; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8950B2352; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ar20so779776iec.7 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nBaLDqFaof4nCZ7QZy+YLQZk35hfMgZXItD17g273SU=; b=eqeVHRD3YEHiZ51K50+skYLh1IcUInzEZ5p+7JKi2bkvfx38AK9H2wRqBan8+f6041 2tmb7P4TS2L+b923CuR/w2krQVUJUlpoKAg4nKataekLRq5x0qapkL70Qr6nysRV6cpO 3iUaVI/7InacmWFfnNNnzfVzCQb5YIo3IXXwa2gyUjT2wnp66GAc4i+ZJtDWHi0gS0Hq ELqWopXx7Gi7NlKXpsISW9gewyOY0n65dIBPlcg/a60AEwN+39eAAsrD7QP0Ia3tyAo5 aCtUGppDtDBUt+z57P9IhGz0hJyHiLMQxm7oAbsMShNfhlznXkyv+SshygAva9eMEhhr YJEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.141.133 with SMTP id ro5mr448751igb.35.1381225102960; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 02:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.240.49 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:38:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131008084721.GJ16964@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <524D6059.2000700@FreeBSD.org> <524DD120.4000701@freebsd.org> <20131003203501.GA1371@medusa.sysfault.org> <20131004061833.GA1367@medusa.sysfault.org> <20131004063259.GC72453@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20131004065753.GV82824@droso.dk> <20131004070158.GE72453@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20131004111256.GC98118@admin.xzibition.com> <20131008084721.GJ16964@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:38:22 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] Staging, packaging and more From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" To: Baptiste Daroussin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Ports , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= , Bryan Drewery , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Sp=F6rlein?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:38:23 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Concerning the fact that you need a couple of new packages to be able to > actually build something out github or whatever, this is a developer problem and > doing pkg install gtk2-dev is not complicated at all. While installing gtk2-dev is not hard indeed, finding the name of package, which you need (gtk2-dev in your example) may be much harder. Just an example: Ubuntu has a package for curl (commandline utility): http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/curl curl (commandline utility) is a thin wrapper around libcurl, libcurl is registered as a dependency. No problems yet, just go through hypelink. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libcurl3 Now, can you say me, what package should I install for obtain headers, .pc, debug symbols and other developer-related stuff for that libcurl? Not some libcurl, but that specific libcurl, which was fetched as dependency of the curl (commandline utility)? It just a fear. My fear. Fear that possibility to create packages/subpackages may lead to creating them randomly, and these randomly created packages/subpackages may lead to the same problems as demonstrated above. And, seems, I'm not alone in that. -- Andrew W. Nosenko