From owner-freebsd-java Wed Oct 30 8:23:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E7537B401; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C9C43E3B; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from emerger.yogotech.com (emerger.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15768; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:23:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by emerger.yogotech.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) id g9UGNZkv038362; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:23:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15808.1927.423109.796378@emerger.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:23:35 -0700 To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Greg Lewis , Nate Williams , Mikhail Kruk , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wake up call for Sun? In-Reply-To: <20021030182502.A52856@phantom.cris.net> References: <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com> <20021030151812.A30986@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20021030182502.A52856@phantom.cris.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > I read the same thing, but I wasn't quite sure what he was driving at. > > > > As I recall the slide mentioned something about threading problems. > > > > So, either they were using the Linux version and HotSpot was crashing > > > > or they wanted to use the native version on an SMP box and use some sort > > > > of kernel threading so it would use all of the processors. > > > > > > For scalability purposes, they would need 'native' FreeBSD threads. The > > > linux thread stuff works, but doesn't scale more. > > > > True. I note that there is now a KSE based pthreads library in -CURRENT. > > This will eventually become the target for the JDK, which will hopefully > > address a lot of issues in this regard. > > Yep. It will help a lot, but... > > * Only after it get into usable shape (it's pretty expiremental now) True. > * Only after signaling become working (not yet implmeneted) I thought they had gotten signaling working as well as could be expected? > * Only after 5.x-RELEASE become real and stable release (not early than > 6 months from now, per current estimates) I'm guessing that something like the JDK would be a great way to wring out the bits, so the sooner someone starts working on porting the JDK to using it, the quicker the bugs will get found and fixed. I doubt anything would be as good at testing the code than the JDK. :) :) > * And last, assuming KSE stuff working as expected (looks promising > and quite real) We can hope... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message