Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:46:17 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: <mchauber@gmx.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... Message-ID: <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCOEFCCAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <200709051038.26280.mchauber@gmx.net>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:38 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > I apologize for that last comment... That was uncalled for. > > My time is limited because of my having to juggle so many things > at once, and > working on the road isn't helping me any (as much as I like the > work). My > wife is now travelling with me, so that was also part of the equation. > Things will slow down eventually, and I'll be back then. > > I basically took your response as your calling me a lazy > whiner... To that, I > must say that I save lazy for Sundays (or until I pass out). The whiner > part... I'm not much for the drink... :) > > I appreciate you, Ted. Over the years, I've learned a lot from you, and > hell.... I even have your book... Thank you! > But I'll be damned if you > don't parse me > off sometimes. :) > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their assumptions is to piss them off. It's why politicians get more votes rabble-rousing than telling everyone how great things are. And naturally, those that don't want to re-examine their own ass-umptions don't like being pissed off, don't like rabble-rousers, and bitch when they see rabble-rousing. But, change never happens easy. Your not going to get a Windows users switched over to Open Source unless you piss him off - force him to defend his ass-umption that Windows is the greatest operating system since sliced bread. Doing this is what gets him to re-examine his assumptions. And that is after all the name of the game here - to get the people away from the unhealthy MS monopolizing of the computer business that are salvagable. > Anyway... A public apology for a public ass-showing... And I > don't want to > leave the board with the impression that I'm an ass (or at least > a complete > one), No problem Mike - and I apologize as well for saying you were whining. As I said, I didn't take your post originally as a troll's post. But I do take exception to the implication - perhaps unintended - that Ubuntu takes less "tinker-time". Ubuntu is configured a certain way - if your needs align with how it is configured it is going to take less time -for you- to tweak. As is, Windows is configured a certain way, if it aligns with someone's needs then it will take less time for -that- person to tweak. This is how it is with all the "canned configuration" operating systems. Right now Ubuntu is growing very fast since it's canned configuration is the closest alignment with Windows among the Linuxes, so it's really easy to get dissatisfied Windows users who aren't willing to expend a lot of effort migrating. And it's natural for new users of any OS to wax poetic about it's good points - after all that's why they moved over - so I have to remember that right now there's going to be a lot of Ubuntu new users waxing poetic about how great Ubuntu is. But it is trying to have to read the same thing over and over on the public mailing lists and message boards. As I said, don't apologize for using an OS that matches your needs better than FreeBSD. Just don't assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours, and we would all be spending less time tinkering with Ubuntu, or even FreeBSD for that matter. Ted
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