From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 12 07:19:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45444BD754B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D438C94F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (liminal.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3636:3bff:fed4:b0d6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3D801E62 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/B3D801E62; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: YIKES! I am going to need some help To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26ad38a5-e7cf-feeb-a4b1-a66cddc38ec1@columbus.rr.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 08:19:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26ad38a5-e7cf-feeb-a4b1-a66cddc38ec1@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SMFvsiK474IqVFtb2xf5g6r9miMPRkUda" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:19:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SMFvsiK474IqVFtb2xf5g6r9miMPRkUda Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ITuDTAwoIeO8Q5ln1Wa2O2h9fqPWv1TxX"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: YIKES! I am going to need some help References: <26ad38a5-e7cf-feeb-a4b1-a66cddc38ec1@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <26ad38a5-e7cf-feeb-a4b1-a66cddc38ec1@columbus.rr.com> --ITuDTAwoIeO8Q5ln1Wa2O2h9fqPWv1TxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/09/2016 15:41, Baho Utot wrote: > - Install 4 1TB hard drives for ZFS raid Z array. >=20 > - Load FreeBSD ( current USB image ) from USB using ZFS. >=20 > Will the installer do this or do I need to tweak it? The installer will create a RAIDZ array for you no problem, and FreeBSD will be able to boot from it. > Will my present 10.3 version still function while I am setting > this up? I don't see why not. I'm not sure how you're intending to switch between each of these three different OSes while you're building your RAIDZ based system -- normally you'ld use something like grub, but given this is only intended to be a temporary state, you probably don't want the bother of setting that up. If you want to copy files between the existing 10.3 setup and the new 11.0 RAIDZ then it will be pretty trivial to boot into one of those OSes and mount the filesystems from the other -- but there are pitfalls to booting into 10.3 and trying to mount the 11.0 files: - When you import the 11.0 ZFS remember to use the '-R /mnt' flags, or it will overlay your exising root directory - As I recall, there are some new feature flags in ZFS under 11.0 that aren't supported in 10.x, which you need to avoid using to maintain compatibility. See zpool-features(7) for the full details. Best to render the whole question moot and boot into 11.0 and then mount any 10.3 filesystems onto that. > I will have win7 on the first primary drive an SSD and then > remove the second drive after I get this going. >=20 > I want to create filesystems on the Raid Z array like /usr/home= > /usr/ports /usr/ports/packages etc. >=20 > You can suggest any other filesystems if it will be helpful= =2E One thing you might want to consider is using some space on your SSDs for a separate ZIL and/or ARC device -- this can give you a significant performance boost, although how much does depend greatly on your workload and mix of files. The other thing when creating ZFSes is to resist the temptation to make huge numbers of them. Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should. Given the shared storage nature of ZFS, you really only need a separate ZFS as a hook to apply different flags to a specific tree of files. On the whole, it is easier to manage one big ZFS than many small ones. Cheers, Matthew --ITuDTAwoIeO8Q5ln1Wa2O2h9fqPWv1TxX-- --SMFvsiK474IqVFtb2xf5g6r9miMPRkUda Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJX1lcJXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATv5UP/1NLtM2JNf5Pua2Cb0IustjP aezwYPY7xF6N8O5DUj3oPXLW1qCXcb84IkBRx/gfcpeQq6CBumpYpOVhXsnwJa8Z lFdGENx0S9+iBbKT9IThqyPf6cMMyLQikqktCbpKotukT8+9WcYmM3L/PsIOp7u+ JBN313jGpeaMeVxidFisBfj13DoviQv5awtLKuOOanvQqJ9nTb2wk8z6TOjVxCiZ PUxq+D0ZK7azd9MG+gDc+FJ4hPiy/0A5GZGYssWztrMydmuWM4E1G7iLHkmcXWRb uA7JIAewq7P9bW7IakIZZqH0HqOUvWJ0FaIgv/WsayRrOKa1ZnUOGVbVkYvxcu2Q BEvflinv610lvthOncMTR29adlNSjJzPO4RcFk1ilP/tJp+A+F9LlITc8Vh9v45X UF8bXZzyJiyPq4yvv5m3CJJcVC9W0i7M0i38zqlmiqBZ5rhyapUYrmWxHca53o3f zS45OdzT6snHt/wpxBASN0Z8RiLUBvk5613IJJVQ5IBb9V3FjU4gQdlJsZbJmJZl 6wCGzFkH+wCrvD2zP0SZimC6F7WS/A/Z2cT0j0k3FaLYQZ82QhRFCGKQp2Wksrwy NPmSIh/6kF9PWCJYB+/IaXDxfmUJIcjK7MdEsG2MZWtxr9c96IC2D2mlKRL0ITC9 Ylonrk3PIPP0ydBBdX4t =23pM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SMFvsiK474IqVFtb2xf5g6r9miMPRkUda--