From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 09:03:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C8116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B4643D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 02B7714BE9D; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:03:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin502 (dyn414.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.117]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D648314BDC2 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:03:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:03:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20041223063731.GW53357@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTouf3tWbBCQDddSuSdRAOZNUeSMAAErzwg Message-Id: <20041223090339.D648314BDC2@pastinakel.tue.nl> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: dmv.com: pastinakel.tue.nl 1181; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: Subject: RE: Time to shut down this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:45 -0000 And what about the questions that DO belong here? The -questions list already has a lot of typical topics that come up every so often (and that probably belong here). When this list closes down - of which the content is intended to be the type of questions that are asked very often - the number of real "technical" questions in the -questions list will likely be pushed to the background by newbie questions (where do I download the FreeBSD cd's...). -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Greg 'groggy' Lehey Sent: donderdag 23 december 2004 7:38 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Cc: Sue Blake; FreeBSD Core Team Subject: Time to shut down this list? Most (all?) of the traffic on -newbies lately has been of technical nature. That's not surprising, but there are a number of reasons why it's not a good idea: 1. It's not the original charter of the mailing list. For reference: This list is a gathering place for people new to FreeBSD. Please feel free to share your experiences with others on this list. Support questions should be sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Technical questions should be sent to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org. (NOT to the newbies list please) Full info and FAK http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ Please read the info and FAK. They contain important information regarding the purpose and use of this mailing list. 2. There's already a mailing list for technical questions, as mentioned above: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org. 3. Most of the experienced people on the FreeBSD-questions list don't read -newbies. If they do, they've been told not to answer technical questions there. The result: ask a question on -newbies and you're less likely to get an answer. If you do get an answer, it's less likely to be correct. In either case, people on the -questions mailing list are not going to see the answer, so even if the answer is correct, it's of less use to the community at large. I'd suggest that we slowly disband this list (over a period of, say, two weeks). There are plenty of other FreeBSD mailing lists, and it's up to you to join them. If you're interested in technical issues, -questions is the obvious one to join. Comments? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers.