Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:41:26 +0000 From: Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@dyslexicfish.net> To: kevans91@ksu.edu, jamie@dyslexicfish.net Cc: jamie@catflap.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 11 - /usr/bin missing [xl]zgrep/zegrep/zfgrep Message-ID: <201703221241.v2MCfQ8R036897@dyslexicfish.net> In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaE3xOSr709rO5c164rvJurr_DX4rg1crR2ofH-Kxz9K1Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <201703220233.v2M2X8Jg033781@dyslexicfish.net> <CACNAnaF8npty7zyckfbT61Kr=WSW0AD-vKNQof-2dQF7=8VzQw@mail.gmail.com> <201703220354.v2M3sgKO034696@dyslexicfish.net> <CACNAnaE3xOSr709rO5c164rvJurr_DX4rg1crR2ofH-Kxz9K1Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Kyle Evans <kevans91@ksu.edu> wrote: > Ah, I see what you mean. I've no idea on the history here, but I > believe the idea is that if I invoke one of these other links (zgrep, > egrep, ...) I'm expecting it to be actually be grep(1) based purely on > the name, and I don't consider bsdgrep(1) to be installed for anything > but a courtesy. > > For grep(1) to be GNU grep while xzgrep to secretly be a link to BSD > grep would be quite surprising to me as a user/admin, especially since > there are very real output and argument differences between the two. > This argument can be furthered by imagining the awkwardness that would > come from a system where the fairly standard *grep links are a mix > between BSD grep and GNU grep. Ahhh. Yes, that does make good sense, now you mention it. Maybe they should be installed as bsdxzgrep ... :-) The thing is, though, it *did* used to do this, and now it doesn't, which isn't very POLA, and the revision log makes no mention of it (it's an update to do with META mode) and I can't find any information about it. I'd have least expected /usr/src/UPDATING to mention when 6 utilities are effectively removed from /usr/bin! Hence why I was wondering if this change was actually intentional - at least now I know a good reason to do this (what you mentioned above) so cheers for that, and the fast responses.. Your first response came in so quickly, I first thought it was a bounce message! Cheers, Jamie P.S. Nice to see someone on this list still remembers mail quoting etiquette ;-)
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