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Date:      Sat, 7 May 2011 22:18:50 +0200
From:      Polytropon <>
To:        Bill Tillman <>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <>
Subject:   Re: Sending a Fax
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bill Tillman <> wrote:
> Like I said, 
> it's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or more secure than any other form 
> of comminication. Its simply a waste of ink, toner and paper as far as I'm 
> concerned.

I fully agree - especially in business. However, there are
FEW, and I may emphasize VERY FEW occassions where faxing
is a welcome solution.

Allow me to give one example - it's the only one I know. :-)

A friend pays his ISP monthly. Due to some mistake on his
side, he mixed some account numbers and got all his money
back, every month, while assuming he had paid. After six
months, the ISP cut his wire. He phoned them and asked for
the reason, and he was told that he didn't pay for a half
year. As he still had all the money on _his_ bank account,
he transferred it and sent a FAX of the banking receipt
to the ISP's accounting department. Less than one hour
later, he was back online.

Faxing is nice if you already have documents in paper form.
It's STUPID to fax if you generate the documents using some
means of "modern IT" (usually a PC, obviously), then PRINT
it, and THEN fax it - instead of using e-mail. It sounds
even more stupid if you do this internally (inside your

But as I said, I've SEEN that.

> I just finished an assignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of 
> sets of huge D and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I 
> showed them the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, 
> they scoffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were 
> wasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In just on 
> month they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to account for this 
> and then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in the trash.

I thing you've been facing the common misbelief that
software is not allowed to cost anything, which leads
to either NOT using software, or using pirated copies.

> Their 
> secretaries were still sending out proposals via fax even when the client 
> requested a PDF be sent by e-mail.

Again something I recently encountered: "We can't send you a
PDF file." - as the result of being UNABLE to use their everyday
software (export to PDF anyone?).

On the other hand, using a 10+ years old illegal copy of
a well-known... you know... :-)

> Their reason for this was, "This is the only 
> way we know how and we've done it like this for so long, we don't want to 
> change."

This attitude will always be funny (for "us") when the
technical basis of some procedure is removed (due to
evolution in technology). Then, they "surprisingly"
and "right now" encounter problems they can't solve.
And then, it gets REALLY expensive.

Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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