From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEB416A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbuisson@nerim.net) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-104-thursday.nerim.net [62.4.16.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD84943D5E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cbuisson@nerim.net) Received: from localhost (cbuisson.pck.nerim.net [80.65.227.128]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9104140F5B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:02:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4500184B.8010206@nerim.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:02:03 +0200 From: Claude Buisson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <86ejun53cu.fsf@dwp.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86ejun53cu.fsf@dwp.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, "Travis H." Subject: Re: comments on handbook chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:02:07 -0000 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > "Travis H." writes: >> ``You do not want to overbuild your security or you will interfere >> with the detection side, and detection is one of the single most >> important aspects of any security mechanism. For example, it makes >> little sense to set the schg flag (see chflags(1)) on every system >> binary because while this may temporarily protect the binaries, it >> prevents an attacker who has broken in from making an easily >> detectable change that may result in your security mechanisms not >> detecting the attacker at all.'' >=20 > Uh? Since when do we have crap like that in the handbook? It should > be removed with extreme prejudice. >=20 > DES $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml,v=20 1.28 2000/03/25 00:19:02 jim Exp $ Claude Buisson