From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 9 22:29:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3C516A4CF for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:29:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8655743D54 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.163 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 22:29:54 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:29:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200502091349.00708.algould@datawok.com> <420A8581.3040605@telus.net> <20050209215230.GZ18759@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20050209215230.GZ18759@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502091429.53854.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Ceri Davies cc: Robert Watson Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:29:55 -0000 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:52 pm, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:49:53PM -0800, Peter Kieser wrote: > > When the Project decides that political correctness is more > > important than a tradition dating back over 20 years, something is > > wrong. > > > > Personally I really don't care if a user selects another OS based > > on the fact that we have a devil as our mascot. They are better off > > on another OS anyways, because they're likely to cause problems -- > > because people with that kind of attitude are likely to bring up > > other "issues" with our "product". > > Then you won't care if we have a mascot that isn't a devil, will you? The point is that the FreeBSD project is allowing people to dictate terms which they have no business dictating. As I pointed out in an earlier post, many businesses and schools use a devil as the mascot, sometimes with a direct connection to the Christian archetype of Satan. FreeBSD's mascot, in contrast, is in reference to Greek mythology, and is a play on words. People who are - sorry to say it - too thick to realize the reference, or who are too stubborn to accept it upon hearing it, are probably not the best people from which to take advice about the project's image. OTOH, if this is actually about the *logo*, as in the lettering of the name, then that's a different subject. But I have never heard anyone voice a religious objection to that, and the original post implied that the mascot was what was being changed, even though it said 'logo.' - jt