From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 02:28:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CE7106566C; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009D413C442; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 37D798C0AB; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:06:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:06:07 -0600 To: Greg Lewis Message-ID: <20080227020607.GA13884@soaustin.net> References: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BBCDD8.4020305@buzmo.com> <47BD6FDF.2070603@rucci.org> <20080226191203.GA81385@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080226191203.GA81385@misty.eyesbeyond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Daniel Rucci , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, pieter@degoeje.nl, glewis@eyebeyond.com.eyesbeyond.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:28:09 -0000 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:12:03AM -0800, Greg Lewis wrote: > A good argument for this is that it has lead to things like the Eclipse > plugin for PHP (insert any language other than Java) being in the java > category. Thats just plain ridiculous in my view. My own feeling is that the 'java' physical category has not been a success. People are too confused about where to put things. It's the only language- specific physical category we have. As for how/what on creating a new physical category, see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/ports.html#AEN1529 (it will also refer you to the relevant section of the Porter's Handbook). I think it's a fairly easy call to have 'eclipse' created as a virtual category. There was a proposal a year or so ago to create some kind of 'ide' physical category for Integrated Development Environments of various kinds, but it quickly resulted in more controversy than anything else. (IIRC I was against it at the time.) I'd want to see a complete proposed list before we went in that direction. Mass category moves are stressful for our users IMHO, so we should only use them if we really feel the hierarchy will be in much better shape going forwards. mcl