From owner-cvs-all Sat Aug 29 12:50:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00387 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00380 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07667; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35E85B46.87E0913B@dal.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:49:26 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0827 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon CC: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make.conf References: <199808290058.RAA20957@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Dillon wrote: > My problem isn't with it being MY fix, my problem is with it taking > dozens of emails arguing back and forth over something that ought to be > a trivial problem to fix. As I pointed out in my earlier post, not everyone sees the same problem that you do, therefore not everyone agrees with your fix. At the same time I can sympathize with you fully believe it or not. I have proposed a lot of "simple fixes" in the past years of my association with FreeBSD, and many of them have been shot down, some quite spectacularly. :) However I've learned more about the project through this process, and learned a little diplomacy as well. You have some good ideas, but please don't assume that our failure to agree with you or see a problem the same way you do is a result of us being "vapid." There is collectively hundreds of years of system administration and development experience on the FreeBSD team, it's a bit arrogant on your part to assume that they are all stupid because they don't agree with you. :) Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb