From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:24:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAD3106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6C8FC2B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26821DFB7; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p47KORt8001646; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Reed Loefgren Message-Id: <20110507222426.860548f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:24:29 -0000 On Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:46 -0600, Reed Loefgren wrote: > I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days > is the emailing of unencrypted business papers. You do not have ANY idea of how clueless people can be, do you? :-) Again, I've seen in REALITY that it was NO PROBLEM for me to obtain "classified" and "secret" documents via a chain of unencrypted and unprotected WLAN and "Windows" shares. No e-mail magic involved. I could even use the company's printer to tell them the surprising facts. :-) > I take the position that > *nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those > servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I think so, too, especially if legislation "encourages" the providers of those services to store all the messages they handle for "investigation purposes". You can imagine the standard arguments for that procedures... > I shake my > head at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never > think of discussing with a stranger. This is a result of "PC on, brain off". :-) Popular intant messengers sometimes are even more problematic, i. e. when the terms of use for those services state that IF you use the service, you delegate all your rights on the messages written to the provider of the service. Bob: i made great invention today will bring many money Tim: cool tell me more ! I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...