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In message: <20040606220432.GA97091@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net>
            Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 05:27:56PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
: > 
: > > As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2
: > > without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it
: > > for his own sake.
: > 
: > We shouldn't keep an arch at tier 1 just to save face.  Better to just
: > lower it to tier 2 and be done with it.  My $.02, FWIW.
: 
: You misunderstand my statement. Lowering alpha to tier 2 is what I
: suggested multiple times before. The point is that we haven't yet
: and alpha is degenerating more and more while we fail to adjust
: the tierness. That's where we fail to save face.

I tend to agree.  Tierness is a combination of politics and technical
reality.  The rality of the situation with alpha is that it has had no
clothes long enough that it no longer reflects the Tier-1 ideas that
we strive to attain.

Warner