From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 7 15:19:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1801737B7A1 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20385; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:19:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAZ6a4WN; Tue Mar 7 16:18:57 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03413; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:19:35 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003072319.QAA03413@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Great American Gas Out To: jazepeda@pacbell.net (Alex Zepeda) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:19:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (Olaf Hoyer), chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alex Zepeda" at Mar 05, 2000 09:57:20 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Yes, but look at the trend in America towards larger engines and larger > vehicles. And yes, a catalytic convertor does reduce emissions, but a > fuel injected car, with an oxygen sensor, when fed oxygenated fuel will > think that it's running lean and richen the mixture, meaning more fuel is > burned than needed. Oxygenated fuel only works well with carb'd cars. > Even then, I think that unleashing MTBE on the environment is a BAD idea. It does _not_ work well with modern carbuerated cars, and works poorly with older cars, which are totally unhappy in any case, lacking lead in their fuel. It worked with fuel injected cars, prior to 1982, when there were requirements added that fuel injected cars carry Oxygen sensors. Maybe it would work on fuel injected cards with burnt out Oxygen sensors, but I doubt that they are the largest source of pollution these days. You really should read the University of Denver study on fuel Oxygenation. I am reminded of Joe Cannon running for the senate in Utah, and running the smelters down at Geneva Steel at night, so that people would not see the smoke coming from there. I am also reminded of the spokesman on the radio: Host: How does Mr. Cannon to the fact that 60% of the smog on the Wasatch front, the 5th largest air pollution center in the world, due to the temperature inversions, comes from Geneva Steel? Spokesman: Now don't exxagerate! It's only 54%! > Sure, and many older engines were also able to use unleaded gasoline or be > retrofited to handle it, but, it wasn't outlawed in California until the > late 80s or early 90s, and was still available in the UK up until recently > I think. Lead is not a big problem in the Bay Area, unless you live on the tailings from a semiconductor manufacturer... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message