From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 0:27:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E82514EDD for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from du23@sprynet.com) Received: from sprynet.com (user-33qt88s.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.161.28]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29707 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 03:27:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386DB90B.92B54DD0@sprynet.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 02:21:31 -0600 From: Altair Demetrio Junior X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.6 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CDROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an ATAPI/IDE CDROM, but FreeBSD doesn't seem to detect it. I have installed Linux and everything, but I can't install FreeBSD. What could be wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 2:16:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B82D14C09 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 02:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartequi@nojunk.com) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (ppp6-pa4.neomedia.it [195.103.207.198]) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14202 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:16:19 +0100 (CET) From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 10:17:33 GMT Message-ID: <20000101.10173300@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: compiling kernel To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" X-Mailer: Supercalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Christopher Klumb, if you followed the steps you mentioned in your letter, you are booting your new kernel. This should be clear from the field "time" of your new kernel. As to the messages at boot time, you should only be ... a little more patient and have a closer look at the system :-) In particular, you might want to have a *look* at /boot/defaults/loader.conf and *edit* /boot/kernel.conf. Before editing the file, you might decide to copy it to kernel.conf.orig if you like -- which is always a good practice. If it is the case, you could leave an empty /boot/kernel.config as a reminder. The annoying messages will disappear, leaving only a harmless "config>" line. Of course, if you compile kernels, you are bound to read "man config" ;-) Best regards and Happy New Year, Salvo N.B. myjokingdomain =3D=3D=3D> neomedia.it for a private reply. ******************************* * * * Windows: brain-dead limits * * BeOS: limited apps * * Linux: unlimited (mindset) * * FreeBSD: no limits * * * ******************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 4:35:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from control.globelinks.com (control.globelinks.com [209.151.133.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA17D14ED5 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 04:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flattie@globelinks.com) Received: from globelinks.com (north.west.goldsluggage.com [209.151.133.160]) by control.globelinks.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00506 for ; Sat, 01 Jan 2000 07:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <386DF4AD.70CDCEB2@globelinks.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 07:35:57 -0500 From: Flattie McGee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (?) Cloning FreeBSD Boxes. Is this possible? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm wondering if this is possible with FreeBSD. I've installed FreeBSD 3.4 (Upgraded from 3.3 today) and configured it (when it was 3.3), I've given it the name ERIS. So far everything seems to be working okay (though I havn't checked all the ports yet, will do that today). In the near future I plan to set up another FreeBSD (3.4) box, fresh install.. well to some degree, the following is a possible configuration.. network would be enabled (to internet?), login through SSH, ports blocked..and name EOS. I'm wondering.. Is it possible to make EOS 'CVSup' (or by some other means) to ERIS (God Box), allowing it to download ERIS's directory contents and let ERIS overwrite certain aspects of EOS's configuration (minus files of major importance, but move copies to another directory) or ports collection (and deleting ones that do not match with ERIS's setup). Maybe this could be specified in a clone.conf or something file? In short.. is it possible to somehow, someway, clone an existing machine. I'm sure I would have to recompile the kernel, but what else would have to be done if this is possible? Thanks and HAPPY NEW YEAR! :) Flatz. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 5:28:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0377C14DD1 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 05:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA70974 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:30:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:30:02 +1100 From: aunty To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: inetd: auth/tcp server failing (looping), service terminated Message-ID: <20000102003002.C65534@comcen.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One or two problems here? I get this server failing (looping) error message every time an email arrives on this 3.3R system. Maybe it's related to the following problem too, though it does say auth/tcp and not ident/tcp. Also, I can't use most irc servers because they say there's no identd when as far as I'm concerned it should be working. I have installed pidentd port and /usr/local/sbin/identd is present. /etc/inetd.conf contains only this (default) line: auth stream tcp wait root /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w -t120 inetd has been sent a SIGHUP several times. /etc/hosts.allow starts with ALL : ALL : allow The freebsd-questions archive has a few slightly similar questions. The most similar question/answer I found was the one below from Doug White. If this is relevant to my problem(s) then I have another two questions: which program is the one that's being run wrong? which man page? === snipped message from questions archive === Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:16:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Anonymous Coward Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: inetd, pidentd, service failed: looping Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <375896F6.36F16F24@tir.com> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Anonymous Coward wrote: > so i couldn't irc because most servers need identd, so i searched the > freebsd mailing list archives found help on that, then i do it and > whenever i try to use irc i'll get "inetd[140]: ident/tcp server > failing (looping), service terminated" scrolled 3 or 4 times. so i > search the archives for that and i see some people that had that problem > but no responses to the questions so can anyone help me out? You're running it wrong. Check the manpage. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ www@freebsd.org -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 6:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hot.net.au (red.hot.net.au [203.58.126.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76F514BE9 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@hot.net.au) Received: from localhost (www@red.hot.net.au [203.58.126.2]) by hot.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA51485 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:36:35 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from steve@hot.net.au) Message-Id: <200001011436.BAA51485@hot.net.au> Subject: Apache / DNS / ? Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mime-version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org From: steve@hot.net.au Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:36 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I'm trying to display one page to my users and another page to the outside world. Something like. outside person looks at home page (http://some.domain/) and gets index.html inside person looks at home page (http://some.domain/) and gets inside.html And pointers ? Thanks all Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 7:35:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.uni-trier.de (hawaii.uni-trier.de [136.199.8.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131AF14E09 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 07:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blank@uni-trier.de) Received: from uni-trier.de (rzppp-28.uni-trier.de [136.199.4.28]) by hawaii.uni-trier.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16865 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:35:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from blank@localhost) by uni-trier.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00507 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:33:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from blank) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:33:18 +0100 From: Sascha Blank To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Should /etc/rc correct /dev/console's owner and mode? Message-ID: <20000101153318.A382@blank.uni-trier.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organization: Computer Center of the University of Trier, Germany Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, /etc/rc on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE/i386 system contains the following lines: # Whack the pty perms back into shape. chflags 0 /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]* chmod 666 /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]* chown root:wheel /dev/tty[pqrsPQRS]* Shouldn't something similar be done to /dev/console? I'm asking because I have just experienced the following situation: I have installed xdm from XFree86 3.3.5 and configured it to display "xconsole" along with the xlogin widget. I use the scripts "GiveConsole" and "TakeConsole" as advised to assign the ownership of /dev/console to the user that is currently logged in. Today I somehow managed it to freeze my X server while I was logged in; I had to reboot by pressing the reset button. When xdm finally started up it didn't show xconsole because /dev/console still belonged to me instead of root ("Couldn't open console"). This problem can of course be solved by adding a few lines to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup (where xconsole is usually started). But nonetheless this makes me wonder whether the permission and ownership of /dev/console shouldn't be reset at boot time to the values of /dev/MAKEDEV. Any thoughts? -- Sascha Blank | FreeBSD - Student and System Administrator | that's where you want to go today! at the University of Trier, Germany | mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de | See http://www.freebsd.org for details To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 8:10:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from donhm.calcasieu.com (dread.austin.texas.net [206.127.24.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46A814F52 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dread@donhm.calcasieu.com) Received: (from dread@localhost) by donhm.calcasieu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06364; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:10:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dread) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200001011436.BAA51485@hot.net.au> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 10:10:43 -0600 (CST) From: Don Read To: steve@hot.net.au Subject: RE: Apache / DNS / ? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Jan-00 steve@hot.net.au wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to display one page to my users and another page to the outside > world. > > > Something like. > > outside person looks at home page (http://some.domain/) and gets index.html > inside person looks at home page (http://some.domain/) and gets inside.html > 1. server side include (but I've no experience with them) 2. have index.html redirect to a cgi script: ------ #!/bin/sh set -f echo Content-type: text/html echo DOC="go_away.txt" case $REMOTE_ADDR in 192.168.3.* | 192.168.170.* | 192.168.172.* ) DOC="intern.txt";; esac cat $DOC exit 0 ------- Regards, -- Don Read dread@calcasieu.com EDP Manager dread@texas.net Calcasieu Lumber Co. Austin TX -- No Coffee No Peace To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 8:39:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.az.home.com (ha1.rdc1.az.home.com [24.1.240.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD9214F8E for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com ([24.14.27.99]) by mail.rdc1.az.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000101163954.EWFK2369.mail.rdc1.az.home.com@cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com> for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:39:54 -0800 From: Laszlo Vagner Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:39:56 GMT Message-ID: <20000101.16395600@cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com> Subject: printing to a canon l6000 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to print to a canon L6000 laser type fax/scanner/copier printer but canon only supports windows type OS's and i read that manufacturers are leaning toward windows only printers, as a user of freebsd what can we develop/use to emulate this windows only type of printing.? As it sits a lp filename only results in the job finishing without any output from the printer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 8:45: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3614C80 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 124ReG-000B6J-00; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:45:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09427; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:45:00 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:44:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: William Freeman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some performance issues In-Reply-To: <386C023E.680FC31@inna.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, William Freeman wrote: >Hello all. I've finaly gotten out of that evil linux cult and come back >to the land of FreeBSD, how ever in 3.3R i have noticed that programmes >such as Netscape, Licq, gnomecc, gIDE, e-conf, et cetera do not load as >fast as they should, or in fact, occasionaly not in a reasonable amount >of time. on a 400Mhz machine with 256MB of RAM i shouldn't have time to >fetch a cup of coffie while waiting for one of these relitivly small >applications to load when i don't have time to blink when loading Emacs I've had a similar experience with Licq. SOmetimes i have clicked on it and it has *never* loaded at all. But i think this has something to do with the net connection. Both Licq and Netscape try to connect before they are usable, and sometimes Netscape looks like it has locked up, when i think it is simply establishing a connection. Maybe i'm wrong here, please let me know. But i have seen them both come up quickly and slowly, so i think it has to do with an outside factor. -=> jm <=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 9: 4:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5F14DC0 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (zeus@tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14848; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:07:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:07:48 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: Altair Demetrio Junior Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDROM In-Reply-To: <386DB90B.92B54DD0@sprynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Altair Demetrio Junior wrote: > I have an ATAPI/IDE CDROM, but FreeBSD doesn't seem to detect it. > I have installed Linux and everything, but I can't install FreeBSD. > What could be wrong? Which controller is the CDROM on for your machine connected to? Is your CDROM jumpered correctly for slave/master operation? FreeBSD is a little more picky about hardware settings. If your CDROM is located on the secondary controller, and it is the only device, then you need to make sure it is jumper as a master device. (Many pc manufacturers ship their machines with the CDROM jumpered as a slave on the secondary controller, even if it is the only device on the channel.) Gene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 9:25:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netcom.com (netcom6.netcom.com [199.183.9.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057B114C24 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:25:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stanb@netcom.com) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21247 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: Stan Brown Message-Id: <200001011725.JAA21247@netcom.com> Subject: Shutodwn oreder sequencing info request (second try) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 100 12:25:32 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i am trying to set up my FreebSD 3.4 STABLE box to work with a ups. As a part of this I need to tell the UPS to shutdsown. Obviously this must be _very late_ in the shutdown sequence. i have just found out by expiremantation the /etc/rc.shutdow is not late enough :-( (do you now how long it takes to fsck a 13G disk ?). Where in the shutdown sequence should I add this? The disks need to be dismounted, and / avaialble as read only at this point in time. Thanks. -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 9:26:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9574014F60 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1133.bossig.com [208.26.241.133]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: <386E38C1.30D7378A@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:26:25 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: William Freeman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some performance issues References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, William Freeman wrote: > > >Hello all. I've finaly gotten out of that evil linux cult and come back > >to the land of FreeBSD, how ever in 3.3R i have noticed that programmes > >such as Netscape, Licq, gnomecc, gIDE, e-conf, et cetera do not load as > >fast as they should, or in fact, occasionaly not in a reasonable amount > >of time. on a 400Mhz machine with 256MB of RAM i shouldn't have time to > >fetch a cup of coffie while waiting for one of these relitivly small > >applications to load when i don't have time to blink when loading Emacs > > I've had a similar experience with Licq. SOmetimes i have clicked on it > and it has *never* loaded at all. But i think this has something to do > with the net connection. Both Licq and Netscape try to connect before > they are usable, and sometimes Netscape looks like it has locked up, when > i think it is simply establishing a connection. Maybe i'm wrong here, > please let me know. But i have seen them both come up quickly and slowly, > so i think it has to do with an outside factor. I ping my ISP before I start Netscape. I have an alias 3c, which pings 3 times to bring up the ppp connection. Netscape comes up in 4 seconds after I am connected. Kent > > -=> jm <=- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10: 3:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8323C14E3C for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1133.bossig.com [208.26.241.133]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:10:36 -0800 Message-ID: <386E416D.770658BE@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 10:03:25 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Shutodwn oreder sequencing info request (second try) References: <200001011725.JAA21247@netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > > i am trying to set up my FreebSD 3.4 STABLE box to work with a ups. > > As a part of this I need to tell the UPS to shutdsown. Obviously this > must be _very late_ in the shutdown sequence. i have just found out by > expiremantation the /etc/rc.shutdow is not late enough :-( (do you now > how long it takes to fsck a 13G disk ?). > > Where in the shutdown sequence should I add this? The disks need to be > dismounted, and / avaialble as read only at this point in time. You have more problems than that because your date is coming up year 100. Kent > > Thanks. > > -- > Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 > Factory Automation Systems > Atlanta Ga. > -- > Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! > Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer > (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10: 6:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8428F14F8E for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fuksiang@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 27842 invoked by alias); 1 Jan 2000 18:06:14 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-questions@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 27837 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jan 2000 18:06:14 -0000 Received: from adslppp17.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO bigfoot.com) (216.161.144.17) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Jan 2000 18:06:14 -0000 Message-ID: <386E41FF.95A37DD8@bigfoot.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:05:51 -0700 From: Hartoyo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How does OpenSSH sshd started? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have just installed OpenSSH from the port collection. Now, everytime I boot up, sshd always get started by itself. How to turn it off? I already check inetd.conf, /etc/rc, /etc/rc.local but couldn't find how to do so. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10: 8:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server2.tdnet.it (server2.tdnet.it [195.250.24.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C72314BEF for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conti@wind.ing.unipi.it) Received: from skydancer.unv.it (slipp3.tdnet.it [195.250.9.43]) by server2.tdnet.it (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA05192 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:47:38 +0100 From: Lorenzo Conti Reply-To: conti@wind.ing.unipi.it To: freebsd-questions Subject: scsi crw config and cdrecord Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:43:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00010119064000.00374@skydancer.unv.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, not so short mail: sorry ! First if all this is my configuration: -HW configuration: a yamaha crw4416 crw (ID 4), 4 scsi hd (ID 0-3), adaptec 2940W scsi pci adapter. -FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE -kernel scsi config: controller ahc0 controller scbus0 at ahc0 device da0 device cd0 device pass0 The result is: skydancer# camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,da2) at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass3,da3) at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass4,cd0) The problem is: skydancer# camcontrol inquiry 0:4 camcontrol: cam_real_open_device: couldn't open passthrough device /dev/pass4 cam_real_open_device: No such file or directory What's appened? Then: skydancer# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord release 1.8a36 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IBM ' 'XP32150W !y' '81K6' Disk 0,1,0 1) 'IBM ' 'DCHS04W ' '2727' Disk 0,2,0 2) 'IBM ' 'DFHSS2W ' '4141' Disk 0,3,0 3) 'IBM ' 'DFHSS2W ' '4141' Disk 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * Where is the crw ? Is my kernel config right ? Then: I read I need to link /dev/rcd0.ctl to /dev/scgx , how can I make rcdX.ctl device ? Private feedback appreciated. Thanks in advance. cheers lorenzo -- -------------------------------+-------------------------------- Lorenzo CONTI Powered by... conti@wind.ing.unipi.it FreeBSD http://ilconte.interfree.it -------------------------------+-------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10:14:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate.hsag.com (gate.hsag.com [209.180.144.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EBD014CE9 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from SWorthington@hsag.com) Received: (qmail 20411 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2000 17:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO internal.hsag.com) (192.168.83.9) by 192.168.83.5 with SMTP; 1 Jan 2000 17:59:11 -0000 Received: from AZPRO-Message_Server by internal.hsag.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:17:24 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.2.1 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:16:51 -0700 From: "Scott Worthington" To: , Subject: Re: How does OpenSSH sshd started? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have one more place to look: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ Any executable shell file with an ending of .sh will be executed at boot up. HTH -- Happy New Year -- 2000! >>> Hartoyo 01/01/00 11:05AM >>> >Hi, >I have just installed OpenSSH from the port collection. Now, everytime I >boot up, sshd always get started by itself. How to turn it off?=20 >I already check inetd.conf, /etc/rc, /etc/rc.local but couldn't find how >to do so. >Any help will be appreciate.=20 > >Thanks in advance. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org=20 >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10:54:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959C714C21 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id FAA25808; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:54:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:54:09 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith Reply-To: Ian Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: non-y2k Award BIOS workaround? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm so embarrassed .. after checking a dozen boxes lately and finding none that a date command in 2000 wouldn't permanently fix, I shutdown our 2.2.6 server from near 76 days uptime at 23:57 NYE, just to check .. .. and it's got a dreaded Award BIOS 4.50G, that won't keep years with 2-digit portions less than 94 ! Award want around AU$120 to 'upgrade' their broken $15 EPROM - for little more I'll buy it a new Super7 m/bd. Meanwhile - trying to cut an awfully long new years' day saga short: Each boot comes up with year 1994(-99). /var/run/* are 1/1/1194, cron quits running 5-minutely MRTG and ipfw snapshot logging after one error. Rmserver goes berserk and eats 75%+ CPU. Logs are screwed. Not pretty. Having found that 'date -v00y' fixed year to 2000 without messing with day/month/time, correctly displaying the system date during boot, went hunting in /etc/rc, first adding '/bin/date -v00y' up top - which works, but seems to not update the CMOS, as 'adjkerntz -i' below retrieves 1994 again, before adjusting the local time offset (needed for log analysis). Another 'date -v00y' below the later 'adjkerntz -i' doesn't work either, though running date once a terminal is available in multiuser, does (?), but too late not to have to then kill and restart cron and rmserver .. I need to have the date set right before cron and various servers started by rc.network and local, start. Wall time, Aust EST (summer). Does anyone know where I should (or whether I can?) add a date or other command in /etc/rc that would do any good for this workaround - while we get our planned new K6-2 replacement box built and up to 3.3-STABLE .. Happy new year :) Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 10:54:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6BE15007 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 124Tfo-0002fw-00; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:54:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10150; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:54:44 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:54:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Kent Stewart Cc: Stan Brown , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Shutodwn oreder sequencing info request (second try) In-Reply-To: <386E416D.770658BE@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: >You have more problems than that because your date is coming up year >100. PLEASE tell me you aren't submitting your messages via FreeBSD. That would be quite an embarrassment ;-) -=> jm <=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 11: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F77150A8 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:07:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1133.bossig.com [208.26.241.133]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:14:20 -0800 Message-ID: <386E5037.AAB7C99D@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:06:31 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: Stan Brown , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Shutodwn oreder sequencing info request (second try) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > >You have more problems than that because your date is coming up year > >100. > > PLEASE tell me you aren't submitting your messages via FreeBSD. That > would be quite an embarrassment ;-) Never use one type of computer. That makes you spin your wheels when another type will do the job better. I use Netscape email on Windows 2000 (the gold version) because it shares my email across all 4 of my windows systems. I use FreeBSD for my programming needs that depend on Unix. It shares a front end with a Windows 2000 Pro system via a switch. If I use FreeBSD email, then I have problems when I am running my Adobe programs on Windows. Mutt and some of the others let me sort on subject and date but I would have to add a commercial product to get x-windows on NT. BTW, Stan's email is showing up with a date of 31 Dec 69. Kent > > -=> jm <=- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 11:18: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7097014C21 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00735; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:18:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:18:02 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Shutodwn oreder sequencing info request (second try) Message-ID: <20000101131802.A612@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200001011725.JAA21247@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001011725.JAA21247@netcom.com>; from "Stan Brown" on Sat Jan 1 12:25:32 GMT 2000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jan 01), Stan Brown said: > i am trying to set up my FreebSD 3.4 STABLE box to work with a ups. > > As a part of this I need to tell the UPS to shutdsown. Obviously this > must be _very late_ in the shutdown sequence. i have just found out by > expiremantation the /etc/rc.shutdow is not late enough :-( (do you now > how long it takes to fsck a 13G disk ?). > > Where in the shutdown sequence should I add this? The disks need to be > dismounted, and / avaialble as read only at this point in time. You'll probably have to write a kernel module for this. It looks like you can tell the kernel to run functions on shutdown; see /sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c . You'll probably want to hook into the "shutdown_final" event. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 11:22:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8C814BEC for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00802; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:22:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:22:36 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Ian Smith Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: non-y2k Award BIOS workaround? Message-ID: <20000101132236.B612@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from "Ian Smith" on Sun Jan 2 05:54:09 GMT 2000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jan 02), Ian Smith said: > I need to have the date set right before cron and various servers > started by rc.network and local, start. Wall time, Aust EST (summer). Just enable ntpdate in rc.conf. That should sync the time early enough. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 11:39:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D949014E3C for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:39:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id GAA26906; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:38:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:38:40 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith Reply-To: Ian Smith To: Dan Nelson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: non-y2k Award BIOS workaround? In-Reply-To: <20000101132236.B612@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In the last episode (Jan 02), Ian Smith said: > > I need to have the date set right before cron and various servers > > started by rc.network and local, start. Wall time, Aust EST (summer). > > Just enable ntpdate in rc.conf. That should sync the time early > enough. Thanks Dan, but I'm afraid not. ntpdate's not started till rc.network _pass2, too late; cron's started running with the wrong date, as are all logs (including ppp, being our only access to ntp servers anyway :) Cheers, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 12:52:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [208.192.111.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F56E14BF2; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bitsurfer@makeworld.com) Received: from wildrock (207-229-172-200.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.200]) by makeworld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00592; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:52:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bitsurfer@makeworld.com) Reply-To: From: "Chris Silva" To: "Misc@Openbsd. Org" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , "advocacy@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: For a snicker Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:52:37 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For a snicker, www.terraserver.com Best regards, Chris _____________________________________________________________________ DH/DSS Fingerprint = 8265 0BB8 2C7D A376 3CCD 6858 8630 0E47 194A 0318 RSA Key Fingerprint = 4390 44E5 E316 F2AA A11E 5755 F3F9 D69B PGP Mail encouraged / preferred - keys available on common key servers _____________________________________________________________________ Proud supporter of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13: 7:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A781314E10 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA18639 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:54:26 +0500 (ES) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id BAA05242 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:20:27 +0500 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by jane.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA02756 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:23:08 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:23:05 +0500 (ES) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.cgu.chel.su To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape composer 4.7 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anybody can open the following page http://www.seven7.demon.co.uk/dali/gallery1.htm with Netscape composer 4.7 for FreeBSD ??? Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBOG5iK+RxlWKN2EXhAQHEMgL/Xsz9x15/2C0FaAqwK0z6Kbp99dvW7mhU z8PYZ4l2zHXUP74yHNZRceG3VfPh4E4yxVnBAdCk41y8HB16e35oXzKboqMYYX2s NtbRQXSFtSCx/V9lwmnX1Nx0w2zn40dB =nmDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13: 8:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spdmgaac.compuserve.com (ds-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.206.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30AD15057 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:08:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncptiddische@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id QAA05208 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:08:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:07:59 -0500 From: Nils Holland Subject: Some newbie-questions To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <200001011608_MC2-930A-3907@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo! I've just downloaded and installed FreeBSD on my computer = (downloaded the ISO-image and burned it onto a CD). Since I've = been using Linux for a long time, it wasn't too hard for me to set up = FreeBSD and configure the network. The next thing I wanted to do was to set my beloved = AfterStep/Gnome-combination I've been using under Linux up on = FreeBSD. I've got all the GNOME tarballs, as well as the latest = stable AfterStep tarball. Under Linux, I used to make RPMs from the tarballs, then I used = the Red hat Package manager and installed the packages. Under = FreeBSD, stuff seems to work a little bit different. Let me give you = a dscribtion of what I've tried to do so far: In order to install AfterStep, I first figured out that it would be a = good idea to have libgif, libpng and libjpeg. (And zlib, since libpng = wants that one). So I downloaded these, unpacked them, and did = ./configure, make, make install. I also did an ldconfig (as I had = learned from Linux). Anyway, when I tried to compile AfterStep = afterwards, it said that it could find neither of these things I had just= = installed. As a result of that, I could not install AfterStep. My guess is that I need to give additional agruments to ./configure = in order to tell it which directories to use for the installation. If so,= = what excactly do I have to type? My second guess is that the = dynamic library loader is not set up properly, if so, what do I have = to do to fix that? Maybe someone can help me with this. To put it all in a short = sentence: How excactly do I install AfterStep and GNOME on a = bare-bones FreeBSD system? Any help is appreciated! Greetings, Nils ------------------------------------------------------------------ How can you bury the skull of your country? How can you bury a nation of fear? Where're you gonna hide your love through the long years of dying? Gimme a tombstone and a wreath of all your tears! (Jim Steinman) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13:27:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785615049 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA11770; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Nils Holland Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Some newbie-questions In-Reply-To: <200001011608_MC2-930A-3907@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Nils Holland wrote: > Maybe someone can help me with this. To put it all in a short > sentence: How excactly do I install AfterStep and GNOME on a > bare-bones FreeBSD system? Use the ports system. If you did'nt install ports during the initial installation use /stand/sysinstall to do so now. Then # cd /usr/ports # cd x11-wm # cd afterstep # make # make install # cd /usr/ports # cd x11 # cd gnome # make # make install The ports system should grab any missing dependencies like libz for you automatically. If you change permissions on /usr/ports/distfiles so that you can write to it you'll only need root for the make install instead of the whole process as I've shown. Recommended :) Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13:28: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA2815140; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 124W44-0007w4-00; Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:27:56 -0700 Message-ID: <386E7200.84F4440F@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:30:40 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitsurfer@makeworld.com Cc: "Misc@Openbsd. Org" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , "advocacy@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: For a snicker References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Silva wrote: > > For a snicker, www.terraserver.com Isn't this a Microsquish-sponsored NT/IIS installation? Nice to see they have so thoroughly checked their ecommerce systems for Y2K problems. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13:29:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netcore.fi (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134F115121 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Pekka.Savola@netcore.fi) Received: from unf (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by netcore.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA11299 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:29:40 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000101232921.00abfcf0@netcore.home> X-Sender: pekkas@netcore.home X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:29:21 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pekka Savola Subject: Huge crontab jobs are not run. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I noticed that *huge* crontab entries in /etc/crontab aren't run on my 3.4-STABLE (the same in 3.2-REL). E.g. ----- 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate ----- Will not be run. Logrotate does some really heavy httpd log checking and resolving - Like 1-2 hours job on a P3/500. Replacing /usr/local/sbin/logrotate with some neat little script seems to be run nicely. Also, 'touch /etc/crontab' doesn't help any. Running the script manually works fine. Is there something I'm missing here? Are there some kind of timeouts for crontab scripts? Any ideas? TIA, Pekka Savola pekkas@netcore.fi --- Across the nations the stories spread like spiderweb laid upon spiderweb, and men and women planned the future, believing they knew truth. They planned, and the Pattern absorbed their plans, weaving toward the future foretold. -- Robert Jordan: The Path of Daggers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 13:55:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (ric-35.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213B415087 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA84630; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:54:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200001012154.QAA84630@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200001011608_MC2-930A-3907@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:54:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Nils Holland Subject: RE: Some newbie-questions Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Jan-00 Nils Holland wrote: > Hallo! > I've just downloaded and installed FreeBSD on my computer > (downloaded the ISO-image and burned it onto a CD). Since I've > been using Linux for a long time, it wasn't too hard for me to set up > FreeBSD and configure the network. > > The next thing I wanted to do was to set my beloved > AfterStep/Gnome-combination I've been using under Linux up on > FreeBSD. I've got all the GNOME tarballs, as well as the latest > stable AfterStep tarball. > > Under Linux, I used to make RPMs from the tarballs, then I used > the Red hat Package manager and installed the packages. Under > FreeBSD, stuff seems to work a little bit different. Let me give you > a dscribtion of what I've tried to do so far: > > In order to install AfterStep, I first figured out that it would be a > good idea to have libgif, libpng and libjpeg. (And zlib, since libpng > wants that one). So I downloaded these, unpacked them, and did > ./configure, make, make install. I also did an ldconfig (as I had > learned from Linux). Anyway, when I tried to compile AfterStep > afterwards, it said that it could find neither of these things I had just > installed. As a result of that, I could not install AfterStep. > > My guess is that I need to give additional agruments to ./configure > in order to tell it which directories to use for the installation. If so, > what excactly do I have to type? My second guess is that the > dynamic library loader is not set up properly, if so, what do I have > to do to fix that? > > Maybe someone can help me with this. To put it all in a short > sentence: How excactly do I install AfterStep and GNOME on a > bare-bones FreeBSD system? > > Any help is appreciated! Use the ports system, it makes your life a *LOT* easier. If you didn't install the ports system, you can do so from /stand/sysinstall -> configuration -> Distributions. Once you have the ports installed just do this: # cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome # make all install ... this will download, compile, and install all of gnome for you, including any dependencies that it needs # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/afterstep-devel # make all install ... this will download, compile, and install afterstep for you, including any dependences that it needs That's it, just 2 'make' commands. To learn more about the Ports System, check out the Handbook. > Greetings, > Nils -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 14: 5:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E381714A2F for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1133.bossig.com [208.26.241.133]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:13:08 -0800 Message-ID: <386E7A2A.ABEECB21@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:05:30 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: bitsurfer@makeworld.com, "Misc@Openbsd. Org" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: For a snicker References: <386E7200.84F4440F@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > > Chris Silva wrote: > > > > For a snicker, www.terraserver.com > > Isn't this a Microsquish-sponsored NT/IIS installation? Nice to see they > have so thoroughly checked their ecommerce systems for Y2K problems. It is their Terrabyte server. It looks like they concatenated two strings instead of adding the dates like they are supposed to. I did look up a couple of places. I couldn't see were I live now but I could see the ranch down in Utah. I have always wondered why the maps had a drainage ditch in a weird place. From the map I can see they followed our road as it made its way a mile west to the river. It also shows the path the river has taken in the distant past before people settled the area. It was funny to see the date (19100) but it was also interesting to see what is available on the server. Kent > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 14:17:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69DD14EFB for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1133.bossig.com [208.26.241.133]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:24:27 -0800 Message-ID: <386E7CEB.68F6223D@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:17:15 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape composer 4.7 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Anybody can open the following page > > http://www.seven7.demon.co.uk/dali/gallery1.htm > > with Netscape composer 4.7 for FreeBSD ??? I tried it on W2K first and didn't have any problem. Then, I walked down to the FreeBSD machine in the basement and tried it on it. I didn't have any problems seeing the Dali Paintings on either computer with Navigator and then I tried Composer on FreeBSD and it also worked. Regards, Kent > > Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) > > Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: noconv > > iQB1AwUBOG5iK+RxlWKN2EXhAQHEMgL/Xsz9x15/2C0FaAqwK0z6Kbp99dvW7mhU > z8PYZ4l2zHXUP74yHNZRceG3VfPh4E4yxVnBAdCk41y8HB16e35oXzKboqMYYX2s > NtbRQXSFtSCx/V9lwmnX1Nx0w2zn40dB > =nmDw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 14:30:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com (cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com [24.14.27.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EA714E8E for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA61144 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:30:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200001012230.PAA61144@cx264598-a.mesa1.az.home.com> Subject: vm_fault To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:30:20 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting random lockups when i try and compile larger ports such as lesstif and i just got a message stating vm_fault pager read error PID 60540 (cp) what can I check to fix this 3.4 system with amd 350 cpu @ 100 bus speed epox mvp3g motherboard 128 meg ram (single dimm) thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 14:55: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (ric-35.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D4314F0A for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA76620; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:54:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200001012254.RAA76620@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 17:54:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Dan Busarow Subject: Re: Some newbie-questions Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Nils Holland Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Jan-00 Dan Busarow wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Nils Holland wrote: >> Maybe someone can help me with this. To put it all in a short >> sentence: How excactly do I install AfterStep and GNOME on a >> bare-bones FreeBSD system? > > Use the ports system. If you did'nt install ports during the > initial installation use /stand/sysinstall to do so now. Then > ># cd /usr/ports ># cd x11-wm ># cd afterstep Does the afterstep port support GNOME? From a simple grep I inferred that only the afterstep-devel port supported GNOME. ># make ># make install ># cd /usr/ports ># cd x11 ># cd gnome ># make ># make install > > The ports system should grab any missing dependencies like libz > for you automatically. > > If you change permissions on /usr/ports/distfiles so that you can > write to it you'll only need root for the make install instead of > the whole process as I've shown. Recommended :) > > Dan -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 15:41: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAD514C44 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncptiddische@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id SAA00287 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:40:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:40:27 -0500 From: Nils Holland Subject: RE: Some newbie-questions To: FreeBSD-Question Message-ID: <200001011840_MC2-92FA-3CEA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nachricht geschrieben von John Baldwin >Does the afterstep port support GNOME? From a simple grep I inferred that only the afterstep-devel port supported GNOME. < Yeah, that's true, that's why I had downloaded the latest devel-version. = I will try the stuff with the PORT-system soon, but what do I do if I get t= he stable version which doesn't support GNOME? Anyway I can install the devel-version by hand? See ya Nils To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 15:48:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.menzor.org (themoonismadeofgreenchease.dk [195.249.147.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E714A14F98 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Received: from SOS (fwuser@gw.danadata.com [194.239.79.3]) by www.menzor.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA11566; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:24:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Message-ID: <07cd01bf54b2$7384ad10$de280c0a@SOS> Reply-To: "Morten Seeberg" From: "Morten Seeberg" To: "jomor" , References: <00d501bf4652$6e7ef5a0$210110ac@billco.com> <3856D4E8.C945DA18@ahpcns.com> Subject: Re: Compaq 3200 RAID controller Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:31:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just had time to try out with my Smart-2, and this procedure wount work, because I cant even see the disk I want to install on, because the boot disk doesnt support IDA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jomor" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Compaq 3200 RAID controller > You need to create a custom kernel with ida support on an operating FreeBSD > system, gzip the kernel and copy it to the kernel.flp floppy. Then do the > install and before you reboot copy the custom kernel (unzipped) to /kernel on > the boot drive of the new machine. > HTH ...jgm > > Simon Holliday wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE on a SCSI-only machine with a > > Compaq 3200 Smart Array RAID controller. I believe that this hardware is > > supported since 3.3 via the "ida" device. However... this device does not > > seem to be included on the boot floppy, so I have no way of installing. > > > > Any clues on how to install with this setup??? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Si. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 16:28:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA8714FB9 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05081 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:28:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200001020028.TAA05081@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: what's a good pop-before-smtp-relay package? Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 19:28:27 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anybody found a "pop before smtp relay" database manager that works well with FBSD and sendmail? For those that don't understand, this is a program that watches your pop and/or imap logs for logins from off-site and then adds the IP addresses to a database that sendmail consults before rejecting smtp relay. If your address is in the database you are assumed to be a local user and allowed to smtp relay. This is a hack people have come up with to allow their local users to travel and still use the "home mail server" without opening it up for open relay to the world and having their system abused by spammers. I've tried Curt Sampson's poprelayd from: http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html ... and it runs fine for several hours or even days but then suddenly goes nuts and grabs all the system's virtual memory. I checked with Curt and he has heard of this before but hasn't been able to reproduce it locally, so he doesn't know the cause. Apparently it's working fine in many places without this problem. So before I start digging through the code to try to debug this, I'm curious if anyone knows of a different package that does the job and runs on FBSD 3.0-R. Or even if someone has already solved the mystery of why Curt's poprelayd goes nuts on 3.0-R? -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 16:29:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lidya.cc.hun.edu.tr (lidya.cc.hun.edu.tr [193.140.216.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A8150EE for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:28:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fsimsek@hacettepe.edu.tr) Received: from z7u3b2 (ppp4.ser0.hacettepe.edu.tr [193.140.239.134]) by lidya.cc.hun.edu.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA19270; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:31:42 +0300 Message-ID: <001801bf54b8$cec9a3a0$86ef8cc1@z7u3b2> From: "Fatma Simsek Duran / E. Hakan Duran" To: "Dru" Cc: References: Subject: Re: ppp login failure Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:32:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF54C9.90D98F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF54C9.90D98F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your patience. I added the line "enable pap" to my ppp.conf after reading the man ppp.html that you've sent. Unfortunately, nothing seems to be changed, yet. Please find attached files /var/ppp.log and outcome of show ccp (show.ccp). My ppp promt only changes to Ppp, when I dial in term mode. It then turns to be ppp, without any progress to PPp and PPP. In case I dial by "dial ISP" (without entering term mode), ppp prompt does not even turn into Ppp! I also discovered root to be present in ppp.deny list and removed it from there. Is it allright? Still nothing seems to change. Happy new year! Hakan ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF54C9.90D98F40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="show.ccp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="show.ccp" ppp ON > show ccp=0A= deflink: CCP [Initial]=0A= =0A= Defaukts: FSM retry =3D 3s, max 5 Config REQs, 5 Term REQs=0A= deflate windows: incoming =3D 0, outgoing =3D 15=0A= DEFLATE: enabled & accepted=0A= PREDICTOR1: enabled & accepted=0A= DEFLATE24: disabled & denied=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF54C9.90D98F40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="ppp.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ppp.log" Jan 2 01:42:20 ppp[268]: tun0: Command: /dev/tty: set authname fsimsek =0A= Jan 2 01:42:29 ppp[268]: tun0: Command: /dev/tty: set authkey ******** =0A= Jan 2 01:42:33 ppp[268]: tun0: Command: /dev/tty: term =0A= Jan 2 01:42:33 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish =0A= Jan 2 01:42:33 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening =0A= Jan 2 01:42:33 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! =0A= Jan 2 01:42:33 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> ready =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: ready -> lcp =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a = transport =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> = Closed =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = =3D Closed =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x01eda175 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:29 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> = Req-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = =3D Req-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x01eda175 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:32 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = =3D Req-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x01eda175 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:35 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(177) state = =3D Req-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(177) state = =3D Req-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:37 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> = Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x01eda175 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> = Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his =3D PAP, mine =3D = PAP =0A= Jan 2 01:43:38 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: fsimsek ******** =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(178) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerDown =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0218cacf =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(178) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:41 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Opened --> = Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2), dropped = (expected 3) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0218cacf =0A= Jan 2 01:43:43 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(179) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(179) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:45 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0218cacf =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(180) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(180) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:47 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:49 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2), dropped = (expected 3) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0218cacf =0A= Jan 2 01:43:50 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(181) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(181) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:51 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0218cacf =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(182) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(182) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:53 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:55 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:55 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> = Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:55 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp =0A= Jan 2 01:43:55 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his =3D PAP, mine =3D = PAP =0A= Jan 2 01:43:55 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: fsimsek ******** =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(183) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerDown =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x46f90304 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(183) state = =3D Opened =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:57 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Opened --> = Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(184) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(184) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:43:59 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x46f90304 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:00 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:01 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3), dropped = (expected 4) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x46f90304 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(185) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(185) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:03 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(186) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(186) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:05 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x46f90304 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:06 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:07 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3), dropped = (expected 4) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x46f90304 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(187) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(187) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:09 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(188) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(188) state = =3D Ack-Sent =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x2aad1f83 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:11 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> = Stopped =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> = Closed =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> = Initial =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 99 secs: = 1101 octets in, 1502 octets out =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: total 26 bytes/sec, peak 79 = bytes/sec on Sun Jan 2 01:44:12 2000 =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed =0A= Jan 2 01:44:12 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead =0A= Jan 2 01:44:40 ppp[268]: tun0: Command: /dev/tty: show ccp =0A= Jan 2 01:45:32 ppp[268]: tun0: Command: /dev/tty: q =0A= Jan 2 01:45:32 ppp[268]: tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). =0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF54C9.90D98F40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 16:43:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.menzor.org (themoonismadeofgreenchease.dk [195.249.147.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AD91501B for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Received: from SOS (fwuser@gw.danadata.com [194.239.79.3]) by www.menzor.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11704 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:18:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Message-ID: <07d601bf54ba$11fff2e0$de280c0a@SOS> Reply-To: "Morten Seeberg" From: "Morten Seeberg" To: References: <00d501bf4652$6e7ef5a0$210110ac@billco.com> <3856D4E8.C945DA18@ahpcns.com> <07cd01bf54b2$7384ad10$de280c0a@SOS> Subject: Re: Compaq 3200 RAID controller Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:41:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ups, misread part of jomors mail, his way works just fine :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morten Seeberg" To: "jomor" ; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Compaq 3200 RAID controller > Just had time to try out with my Smart-2, and this procedure wount work, > because I cant even see the disk I want to install on, because the boot disk > doesnt support IDA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jomor" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:38 AM > Subject: Re: Compaq 3200 RAID controller > > > > You need to create a custom kernel with ida support on an operating > FreeBSD > > system, gzip the kernel and copy it to the kernel.flp floppy. Then do the > > install and before you reboot copy the custom kernel (unzipped) to /kernel > on > > the boot drive of the new machine. > > HTH ...jgm > > > > Simon Holliday wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE on a SCSI-only machine with a > > > Compaq 3200 Smart Array RAID controller. I believe that this hardware > is > > > supported since 3.3 via the "ida" device. However... this device does > not > > > seem to be included on the boot floppy, so I have no way of installing. > > > > > > Any clues on how to install with this setup??? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Si. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 18: 6:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A160D14BCC for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:06:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA31633; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:35:58 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:35:58 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Pekka Savola Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run. Message-ID: <20000102123558.X1528@freebie.lemis.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20000101232921.00abfcf0@netcore.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000101232921.00abfcf0@netcore.home> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 1 January 2000 at 23:29:21 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: > Hello all, > > I noticed that *huge* crontab entries in /etc/crontab aren't run on my > 3.4-STABLE (the same in 3.2-REL). > > E.g. > ----- > 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > ----- > > Will not be run. Logrotate does some really heavy httpd log checking and > resolving - Like 1-2 hours job on a P3/500. Replacing > /usr/local/sbin/logrotate with some neat little script seems to be run nicely. > Also, 'touch /etc/crontab' doesn't help any. Running the script manually > works fine. > > Is there something I'm missing here? Well, I'd guess you're looking in the wrong place. This has nothing to do with cron. > Are there some kind of timeouts for crontab scripts? No. I currently have a cron job running which was started at 2 am; it got delayed for some reason. That's been over 10½ hours. > Any ideas? Look at the script. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 18:28:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from multiplex.cmich.edu (mail.cmich.edu [141.209.15.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D1014F10 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:28:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ong1s@cmich.edu) Received: from pm622-26.dialip.mich.net ([198.110.161.185]) by multiplex.cmich.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5E50 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:21:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: ong1s@cmich.edu X-Sender: sc@gauss.tri-star.edu Reply-To: ong1s@cmich.edu To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.4 kernel, ppp -auto shutdown Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I compiled the 3.4 kernel several time without any error. But could boot from any of them. Got page fault (or something like that), panic, reboot, right before changing root device to wd1s2a message. Any suggestions? comments? Did I do something stupid? What dos "sio3: 182more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total 182)" mean? sio3 is my modem. After starting ppp -auto ondemand, how to shut it down gentlely? I use ps to grep the pid and then kill it. or read pid from /var/log/ppp.log. There aught to be a better way. TIA for any suggestions. Happy New Year! SCO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 18:38: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5E814BCC for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 124au3-000L3k-00; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:37:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:37:54 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: Andrew MacIntyre Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4 MB RAM? (long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Andrew MacIntyre wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Marc Schneiders wrote: > > > There is 24 MB of swap. I have looked at top a number of times and > > there was only little of it used. Maybe the daily checks take a lot of > > it? I will throw them out first and see what happens. > > I think you mention that this machine has 2 drives - if so, it might be > worth the pain to rearrange your partitioning so that the swap is spread > equally over both drives, as I understand that FreeBSD interleaves access > to swap (probably works better with SCSI than IDE though...). > The machine I am testing this on has two drives, because one was too small :-) The laptop has just one drive, big enough though. > You mention that your current kernel is ~1.5M - just for reference I have > a 2.2.6R server (486) with a ~1.15M kernel (2.2.6R GENERIC is ~1.5M) and a > 3.2R SMP workstation (C300Ax2) with a ~1.75M kernel (3.2R GENERIC is > ~2.3M). Both boxes have a trimmed config, though the 3.2 box has sound and > a couple of other "extras". My SMP desktop runs CURRENT. Kernel is now 1.69M (no sound). I would love to have a list of what parts take up space and what don't. I could make one myself of course :-) I am going to try it on the laptop with CURRENT after all, as it will be a bit of a problem to set up a box with 3.X sources on it to compile a new kernel. I've changed to 4.0 some time ago, because someone advised me to in relation with SMP matters. For those who are interested: It *is* possible to run a http-server on 4 MB. Not apache (not that I tried it), but boa, which is in the ports. It is small (under 1M). It doesn't fork, except for CGI, which I did not try. I ran a webcam (refresh 30 secs) on it and the box was able to serve 4 machines simultaneously on my LAN for hours. No problems at all on 4 MB on a 486 DX 66 with 4.0 CURRENT of beginning of december 1999. I have changed just one thing about the config of the box: done away with the daily (etc) checks. These froze it, as I mentioned earlier. -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 3:22am up 2 days, 5:11, load average: 2.09 2.05 2.02 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 18:44:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CE914DD9; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA13634; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:44:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: John Baldwin Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Nils Holland Subject: Re: Some newbie-questions In-Reply-To: <200001012254.RAA76620@server.baldwin.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > On 01-Jan-00 Dan Busarow wrote: > > Use the ports system. If you did'nt install ports during the > > initial installation use /stand/sysinstall to do so now. Then > > > ># cd /usr/ports > ># cd x11-wm > ># cd afterstep > > Does the afterstep port support GNOME? From a simple grep I inferred that > only the afterstep-devel port supported GNOME. It's not gnome aware but the combination still works well. Gnome-session doesn't require a gnome aware WM. Nice to hear that the -devel port does know about gnome. Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 19:18:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.16.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645A214D15 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:18:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otterr@bellsouth.net) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-77-245-65.mia.bellsouth.net [216.77.245.65]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id WAA14574; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:09:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386E7B2B.4655CEF3@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:09:47 +0000 From: Otter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hartoyo Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How does OpenSSH sshd started? References: <386E41FF.95A37DD8@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hartoyo wrote: > Hi, > I have just installed OpenSSH from the port collection. Now, everytime I > boot up, sshd always get started by itself. How to turn it off? > I already check inetd.conf, /etc/rc, /etc/rc.local but couldn't find how > to do so. > Any help will be appreciate. > > Thanks in advance. try /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sshd.sh > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 19:43:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alltel.net (mail.alltel.net [166.102.165.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9B14A21 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:43:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vsitompul@alltel.net) Received: from alltel.net (r-179.254.alltel.net [166.102.179.254]) by mail.alltel.net (8.9.3/ALLTEL Messaging Service) with ESMTP id VAA15198 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:43:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <386EC8EF.EA52DA98@alltel.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 21:41:38 -0600 From: Victor Sitompul X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an Intel 486dx and a Cyrix 6x86, and I just bought FreeBSD 3.3 Can FreeBSD 3.3 be installed on both my Cyrix and 486? -victor sitompul- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 19:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE6114A21 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26040; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:08:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:08:19 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Victor Sitompul Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <386EC8EF.EA52DA98@alltel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Victor Sitompul wrote: > I have an Intel 486dx and a Cyrix 6x86, and I just bought FreeBSD 3.3 > Can FreeBSD 3.3 be installed on both my Cyrix and 486? You should as long as you have 12 megs of ram about 300-500 megs of space. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 22:18:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from odin.interdestination.net (www1.interdestination.net [209.12.127.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 715EF14DCD for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Zapper@FoxChat.Net) Received: (qmail 94603 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2000 00:16:06 -0600 Received: from home.zapper.org (HELO FoxChat.Net) (Zapper@209.136.139.35) by www1.interdestination.net with SMTP; 2 Jan 2000 00:16:06 -0600 Message-ID: <386EEDF0.A367E24E@FoxChat.Net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 00:19:29 -0600 From: "FoxChat.Net" Organization: FoxChat.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Killing Zombies. 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(v1.34a) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Ben WIlliams X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1767.000102@Home.Com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Question In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sunday, January 02, 2000 Do Cyrix processors need that much extra RAM? I recently got FreeBSD installed (via the net) on my Intel 486/66 DX2 which has 260mb and 203mb hd's and 8mb RAM. -- Ben mailto:williamsl@Home.Com Saturday, January 01, 2000, 23:08:19, you wrote: AP> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Victor Sitompul wrote: >> I have an Intel 486dx and a Cyrix 6x86, and I just bought FreeBSD 3.3 >> Can FreeBSD 3.3 be installed on both my Cyrix and 486? AP> You should as long as you have 12 megs of ram about 300-500 megs of AP> space. AP> -Alfred AP> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org AP> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 22:55:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (mail2.thuntek.net [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D53614D09; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-009.thuntek.net [207.66.52.9]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01895; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:54:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Message-ID: <386EF6C2.B67A0757@thuntek.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:57:06 -0700 From: Donald Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@thuntek.net Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitsurfer@makeworld.com Cc: "Misc@Openbsd. Org" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , "advocacy@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: For a snicker References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG love the date! Neat site, though, isot bug. -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== PMB 117, 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd SE v: 505-771-0709 f: 771-1356 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 22:56:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (mail2.thuntek.net [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15F614EF0; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:56:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-009.thuntek.net [207.66.52.9]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02056; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:56:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Message-ID: <386EF721.A59BEC5B@thuntek.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:58:41 -0700 From: Donald Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@thuntek.net Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitsurfer@makeworld.com Cc: "Misc@Openbsd. Org" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , "advocacy@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: For a snicker References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?T=1&S=14&X=109&Y=1219&Z=13&W=0&mscssid= -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== PMB 117, 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd SE v: 505-771-0709 f: 771-1356 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23: 8:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [165.87.194.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BFD14A0B for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikegoe@ibm.net) Received: from Nikki ([129.37.208.214]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <20000102070809239033acs1e>; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:08:10 +0000 From: "Michael G." To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 02:05:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Michael G." X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to ftp or telnet Message-Id: <20000102070812.12BFD14A0B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a too long "lack-of-FreeBSD" drought I just loaded up 3.4-RELEASE. For some reason I am unable to ftp or telnet from a Win95 notebook into my FreeBSD system. I've tried via the ex0 port (192.168.0.1) as well as ppp0 via my assigned IP address when I log into my ISP. inetd is running and the config file in /ect has been untouched. I have modified my rc.conf file, but I don't see anything in there I could have messed up. This should be really simple and I'm sure I've simply overlooked the obvious. Any suggestions? I do have the hosts file setup correctly as well. Michael G. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ICQ #24517082 Live FreeBSD...Or Die! PIC X 10 VALUE "YES! COBOL". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23:30:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3785314EBA for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nat@java-fan.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id CAA29937 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (cx272244-a.orng1.occa.home.com [24.1.177.149]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with SMTP id CAA29932 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01bf54f3$111f18e0$0b00a8c0@orng1.home.com> From: "nat" To: Subject: change the TCP Receive Window setting (in order to increase speed of cable modem) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:29:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I previously had my cable modem hooked up to a windows machine until i realized that FreeBSD could be a router. For windows they had a registry setting in: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP and when you changed the TCP Recieve Window setting to 32767 it supposedly made a difference in speed w/your cable modem. This made a difference in my windows machine, so i would like to do the same in my FreeBSD machine. Can you help me with this? Im running FreeBSD 3.2-Release w/2 nics (de0, and de1) I assume it is a setting in /etc/rc.conf. Please help, nat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f256.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16F4614BEF for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:31:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hate00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 46828 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jan 2000 07:31:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000102073122.46827.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.189.64.120 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:31:22 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.189.64.120] From: "jimmy martin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: partitions Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 07:31:22 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 20gig drive, and I was wondering if someone could help me set the partitions, I want to be able to give out alot of shell accounts with it, and I want users to be able to setup stuff too ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23:33:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00B14DA6 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:33:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (zeus@tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA44105; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:35:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:35:57 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: "Michael G." Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Unable to ftp or telnet In-Reply-To: <20000102070812.12BFD14A0B@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You don't mention it, but can you ping the boxes in both directions (Win -> BSD, BSD-Free)? I would take a look at that. Also, do you have a firewall enabled? If so, you might find any log entries useful. I personally like to turn on an "open" firewall with full logging, or use tcpdump to monitor traffic when problems occur. You can start initd with -d and -l options to turn on debugging and log all connection attempts. This might give you some information. HTH, Gene On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Michael G. wrote: > After a too long "lack-of-FreeBSD" drought I just loaded up > 3.4-RELEASE. For some reason I am unable to ftp or telnet from a > Win95 notebook into my FreeBSD system. I've tried via the ex0 port > (192.168.0.1) as well as ppp0 via my assigned IP address when I log > into my ISP. inetd is running and the config file in /ect has been > untouched. I have modified my rc.conf file, but I don't see > anything in there I could have messed up. This should be really > simple and I'm sure I've simply overlooked the obvious. Any > suggestions? I do have the hosts file setup correctly as well. > > Michael G. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ICQ #24517082 Live FreeBSD...Or Die! > > PIC X 10 VALUE "YES! COBOL". > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23:48: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.209.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC40714E63 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru) Received: (qmail 625 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2000 07:47:50 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2000 07:47:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04133 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:47:34 +0600 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:47:33 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Alexey N. Dokuchaev" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Files after editing quotas in /tmp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Whenever I run edquota, I got this: [root@ws10 /tmp]# ls -l total 291 drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 9 =C4=C5=CB 21:22 .X11-unix drwx------ 3 root wheel 512 17 =CE=CF=D1 03:12 .XF86Setup3442 drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 17 =CE=CF=D1 03:22 .xf86config3680 -rw------- 1 root wheel 125 23 =CE=CF=D1 12:11 EdP.aAi392~ -rw------- 1 root wheel 21 20 =CE=CF=D1 20:42 EdP.aOk329 -rw------- 1 root wheel 129 23 =CE=CF=D1 12:10 EdP.aOs384~ -rw------- 1 root wheel 121 23 =CE=CF=D1 12:06 EdP.agV344~ -rw------- 1 root wheel 129 24 =CE=CF=D1 20:08 EdP.avS630~ -rwx------ 1 root wheel 102 14 =C4=C5=CB 20:10 dcsDZI116 -rwx------ 1 root wheel 1051 9 =C4=C5=CB 19:12 dcswYMI66 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 274373 16 =C4=C5=CB 20:17 dnetc-freebsd-x86-elf.= tar.gz [root@ws10 /tmp]# It seems that EdP* files are those after edquota. Under linux, they seem to be deleted after it finishes, but under fBSD I have to do it manually. Well, it's not much bother since they are 0600, but still, why having them around? So, maybe there is a way of not getting them? Thank you and happy y2k! =2E/danfe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 1 23:53:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2725914A0B for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (zeus@tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA44217; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:55:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:55:59 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: nat Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: change the TCP Receive Window setting (in order to increase speed of cable modem) In-Reply-To: <000d01bf54f3$111f18e0$0b00a8c0@orng1.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure what MS is calling the tcp receive window. In freebsd, you can set many system parameters using sysctl. If I remember correctly, you want to set the parameter net.inet.tcp.receivespace. You can get a complete list of settings with command sysctl -A. You might also try scanning "man tcp" for any pertinent information. I hope this helps. Gene On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, nat wrote: > I previously had my cable modem hooked up to a > windows machine until i realized that FreeBSD could > be a router. > For windows they had a registry setting in: > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP > and when you changed the TCP Recieve Window > setting to 32767 it supposedly made a difference in > speed w/your cable modem. This made a difference > in my windows machine, so i would like to do the same > in my FreeBSD machine. > Can you help me with this? > Im running FreeBSD 3.2-Release w/2 nics (de0, and de1) > > I assume it is a setting in /etc/rc.conf. > > Please help, > > nat > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:19:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1F314A0B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29401; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:19:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:19:21 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200001020819.JAA29401@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Killing Zombies. In-Reply-To: <84mqle$1qdi$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zapper@foxchat.net wrote in list.freebsd-questions: > How does one kill a "zombie" process? You cannot kill it, because it's not really a "process" anymore, so there is nothing that can receive any signals. It's merely a slot in the process table that is kept because its parent process hasn't grabbed the exit status of the child. As soon as the parent checks the exit status, the slot will be gone and recycled, thus the "zombie process" will disappear. To enforce this, you can kill the parent process (``ps'' will tell you what PID it is). This is usually caused by badly written programs, but it doesn't have any ill effects, normally. The "zombie pro- cesses" don't occupy any resources, neither RAM nor CPU time. Although it _might_ become a problem if you have really a lot of them (thousands) because they can fill up your process table. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:26:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from afcon.net (afcon.afcon.net [209.26.60.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FE714DBB for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:26:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scorpio@sunline.net) Received: from p0f7g7 (afcon-dyn113.afcon.net [209.26.60.113]) by afcon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA10033 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01bf54fb$1ec64ce0$c80bfea9@p0f7g7> From: "Jeff Palmer" To: Subject: IO adress on an ISA card Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:26:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF54D1.359C5880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF54D1.359C5880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Sorry if this is a duplicate email, the first one looks like it failed. I happen to have a Legacy ISA card, windows reports it as irq 5 IO = 0x320 (if it matters, it's a 3com sportster 128K internal) However, when recompiling the kernel, (3.4-STABLE) it says something = to the affect of isic0 not found at 0x320 in the boot messages. How can I find the specific IO for the card, so i can use it in unix? I'd really appreciate any help available. Jeff Palmer scorpio@sunline.net ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF54D1.359C5880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
Sorry if this is a duplicate email,  the first one looks like = it=20 failed.


I happen to have a Legacy ISA card,  windows reports = it as irq=20 5 IO 0x320
(if it matters,  it's a 3com sportster 128K=20 internal)

However,  when recompiling the kernel,  = (3.4-STABLE)=20 it says something to
the affect of  isic0 not found at = 0x320  in=20 the boot messages.

How can I find the specific IO for the = card,  so=20 i can use it in unix?

I'd really appreciate any help=20 available.

Jeff Palmer
scorpio@sunline.net
------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF54D1.359C5880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:28: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF4914CA9 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:28:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29418; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:27:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:27:59 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200001020827.JAA29418@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Files after editing quotas in /tmp X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <84mvse$1ufv$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexey N. Dokuchaev wrote in list.freebsd-questions: > -rw------- 1 root wheel 125 23 ÎÏÑ 12:11 EdP.aAi392~ > -rw------- 1 root wheel 21 20 ÎÏÑ 20:42 EdP.aOk329 > -rw------- 1 root wheel 129 23 ÎÏÑ 12:10 EdP.aOs384~ > -rw------- 1 root wheel 121 23 ÎÏÑ 12:06 EdP.agV344~ > -rw------- 1 root wheel 129 24 ÎÏÑ 20:08 EdP.avS630~ > > It seems that EdP* files are those after edquota. Under linux, they seem > to be deleted after it finishes, but under fBSD I have to do it manually. > Well, it's not much bother since they are 0600, but still, why having them > around? So, maybe there is a way of not getting them? The tilde »~« after the name indicates that it is a backup file (for example, the ``joe'' editor creates such files by default). Of course, edquota can't remove such backup files, because it doesn't know about them. Therefore you have to remove them manually, or disable the backup feature of your editor. If you use ``joe'': You can configure it to put backup files into a fixed directory. For example, you can let it put all backup files into ~/tmp/joebackups, and then let a cronjob remove all files in there that are older than 7 days, or something like that. I've found this to be very useful. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:28:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from control.globelinks.com (control.globelinks.com [209.151.133.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34614F83 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flattie@globelinks.com) Received: from globelinks.com (north.west.goldsluggage.com [209.151.133.160]) by control.globelinks.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00542 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2000 03:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <386F0C3D.4574147@globelinks.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 03:28:46 -0500 From: Flattie McGee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: lsof (list open files) make problem. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi.. I'm trying to make this port, but I seem to be having some trouble (as always). Can anyone help me with this? *Ugh* [/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof] ++# umask 22 [/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof] ++# make ===> Building for lsof-4.47 (cd lib; make DEBUG="-O" CFGF="-DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DLSOF_VSTR=\"3.4-RELEASE\"") cc -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DLSOF_VSTR="3.4-RELEASE" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O -c ckkv.c In file included from ../dlsof.h:110, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/ufs/mfs/mfsnode.h:49: field `buf_queue' has incomplete type In file included from ../dlsof.h:121, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from ../dlsof.h:193, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. (This is REPEATED 4 more times). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:28:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from defiant.apana.org.au (defiant.apana.org.au [203.11.114.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B7E14DFC for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:28:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by defiant.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20032 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:28:04 +0800 (WST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:28:03 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ELM Message-ID: X-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyall, Is anyone aware that the current port of ELM (under mail) is *not* Y2K compliant? It needs to be updated to 2.5 PL1... I couldn't even get the 2.4 port to compile: bash# make ===> Building for elm-2.4ME+61 cd melib; /usr/bin/make - all cc -I../hdrs -O -c parse_util.c In file included from ../hdrs/headers.h:22, from parse_util.c:10: ../hdrs/defs.h:515: inttypes.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Regards, d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:33:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5614EBA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jay.krell@cornell.edu) Received: from jayk-home3nt (user-2ini8rq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.35.122]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA07036 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:33:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101bf54fc$0c431d40$8001a8c0@jayk-home3nt> From: "Jay Krell" To: Subject: still partition/slice restrictions? Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:33:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN585 Q: Any restrictions on how I divide the disk up? A: Yes. You must make sure that your root partition is below 1024 cylinders so the BIOS can boot the kernel from it. (Note that this is a limitation in the PC's BIOS, not FreeBSD). For a SCSI drive, this will normally imply that the root partition will be in the first 1024MB (or in the first 4096MB if extended translation is turned on - see previous question). For IDE, the corresponding figure is 504MB. -- Is this still true? /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2 uses int13 extensions if they are present. Is that sufficient to break this restriction? Can I just have one large filesystem using up an entire drive? I dislike the fragmentation of partitioning, /var just filled up while /usr has space, and a kernel with symbols doesn't fit in /.. How can I tell if my system has the int13 extensions ("old" Pentium Pro 200..)? - Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:38:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.209.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C322A14DAE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru) Received: (qmail 654 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2000 08:38:15 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2000 08:38:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA04609; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:37:54 +0600 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:37:54 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Alexey N. Dokuchaev" To: Oliver Fromme Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Files after editing quotas in /tmp In-Reply-To: <200001020827.JAA29418@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >=20 > The tilde =BB~=AB after the name indicates that it is a backup file > (for example, the ``joe'' editor creates such files by default). > Of course, edquota can't remove such backup files, because it > doesn't know about them. Therefore you have to remove them > manually, or disable the backup feature of your editor. >=20 > If you use ``joe'': You can configure it to put backup files > into a fixed directory. For example, you can let it put all > backup files into ~/tmp/joebackups, and then let a cronjob > remove all files in there that are older than 7 days, or > something like that. I've found this to be very useful. >=20 > Regards > Oliver >=20 Damn me, stupid. Yeah, closed topic :-) Can't believe I didn't notice that tildoes ;-) =2E/danfe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 0:56:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ib.rc.vix.com (ib.rc.vix.com [204.152.187.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DB914C13 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Received: from bb.rc.vix.com (bb.rc.vix.com [204.152.187.11]) by ib.rc.vix.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) via ESMTP id AAA09968 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:56:13 -0800 (PST) env-from (Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Received: from localhost (plosher@localhost) by bb.rc.vix.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) via ESMTP id AAA18767 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:56:13 -0800 (PST) env-from (Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Losher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: "File too large" in Amanda restore? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We have a situation here where we have our Amanda backup system running on a BSDI v3.1 box (legacy system). We tried running a restore of a partition off of a recently departed RAID system onto another RAID attached to a FreeBSD v3.4-STABLE box over NFS. We keep running into a problem where the restore process keeps stalling mid-way thru the process with the error: -=- amrestore: short write: File too large -=- The NFS partition where it was restoring to had enough space (was at 28% of a 15GB partition, and the file being restored was just under 4.3GB in size). Could this be a NFS error, or a FreeBSD error? (I searched thru the archives before posting, no one else seems to have had this problem, so I am not inclined to think it's FreeBSD right now) Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance - Peter | Peter Losher | SysAdmin - iEngines, Inc. | Peter.Losher@iengines.com | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 1:25:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cclib.nsu.ru (cclib.nsu.ru [193.124.215.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFAF14FC3 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:25:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan837@cclib.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (dan837@localhost) by cclib.nsu.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29517 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:25:10 +0600 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:25:10 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Dmitry A. Novoselov" X-Sender: dan837@glory.nsu.ru To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ftp daemons and cvsuping ports collection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi! i actually a little curious about ftp daemon on my brand-new fbsd instalation. what it is? i've heard of wu-ftpd, proftpd, ncftpd and others - how are they different from standart ftp daemon? why should i transfer to one of those (or maybe i should not?) what are advantages and drawbacks of such upgrade? will i gain any speed/security benefits? secondly, i'm willing to cvsup my 3.3-rel to 3.4-stable. my vision of things is like this: there is so-called 'system part of distrib /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin' plus system sources in /sys -> /usr/src/sys. when i cvsup system only, i got this source directory tree updated, then i make buildworld, and i got all system staff and utils (maybe even ls ;-) compiled, hence bin and sbin in both / and /usr get updated. /usr/local/bin left untouched. is this correct? after saying installworld, some boot-related things get changed. what exactly happens? now the ports thing: first, some terminology: port-tree is only what i get when saying "install all ports" in /stand/sysinstall. is this so? and if i actually want _all port source_ which is lot of megabytes reside on my computer, what should i do? and is it true that there is no way to fetch all ports (i mean, all that huge source code tarballs) during install (the very first time /stand/sysinstall)? that's why to have cvsup, right? cvsuping ports collection - will it update only my ports-tree? or it will download the huge /ports/distfiles thing? if so, when cvsuping ports for the first time should take extremely long time, and all the consequential cvsuping will take much less? please excuse my bad english. waiting for your replyes..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 2:19:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B1E14D3E for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjoseph@nwlink.com) Received: from nwlink.com (ip175.r7.d.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.173.175]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08428; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:19:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <386F2582.E5910672@nwlink.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 02:16:34 -0800 From: R Joseph Wright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: some performance issues References: <386C023E.680FC31@inna.net> <386C0676.F39EC477@3-cities.com> <386C2354.ABD1ED54@nwlink.com> <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <386D9271.C3B7DD95@3-cities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > > R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > > > I recompiled my kernel and changed the flags from 0x80ff80ff to > > > > 0xa0ffa0ff. What is a good program to use to see if I can really tell a > > > > difference? I tried out some of my bigger programs like star office and > > > > gimp. Star Office still took a little while to load, gimp seemed to fly > > > > (when it wasn't crashing). > > > > > > I use "iozone -s 160m" because I have 128MB of memory. The size of the > > > file needs to be larger than memory so you aren't benchmarking the > > > cache. You can find it in the packages/benchmark area of the CDROM. > > > > > > Kent > > > > Kent, I tried that, only for me it worked doing "iozone 160". Here is > > my results: > > > > 11483869 bytes/second for reading > > 15155142 bytes/second for writing > > > > Is that really slow? It's nowhere near 33MB/second. I have a Maxtor > > 7000rpm with UDMA66 capabilities, although I'll have to wait for -STABLE > > to support that, and a new motherboard as well. I may recompile with > > the old flags just to see the difference. > > > > What you will see with the old flags is probably 6-7MB/s. Remember > that UDMA66 is the rate that the buffer transfers data. The continuous > rate off of the HD is MUCH less :). I think the lvd IBM Scsi's are > rated at 20.2MB/s continuous and not the 80MB/s of the interface. > > Kent I didn't have to rebuild with the old flags, I just rebooted the old one. The results were noticeably lower: 8918121 bytes/second read 10599623 bytes/second write I looked back in the book and saw another option, 0x1000 for LBA addressing. So, I recompiled with flags 0xb0ffb0ff. Here are the results for that: 11652108 bytes/second read 15219586 bytes/second write Slightly higher than with 0xa0ffa0ff. I'm getting the hang of this. > > > Happy New Year (why am I sitting at this computer 8-) )! > > Well, if it makes you feel better, there are two of us doing the same > thing. I hit my first 2000 problem. I wanted to do an update from > today's Stock Market with Quicken 99 and I suddenly had 3 accounts > that were each worth $10-40M US. Something overflowed. The smallest > account was the one that jumped to $40M. The system was quickly > restored from the last backup and now I'm installing Quicken 2000. > People believe stuff like this. All I could do was chuckle. It is also > the first time I ran Quicken since I upgraded to Windows 2000 gold. I just had my first y2k problem too. After eating too much celebratory ben&jerry's ice cream last night, I proceeded to delete the contents of my /usr/bin directory. I tried a number of things like just going in to /usr/src/usr.bin and doing 'make'. I didn't have 'make' anymore. Luckily, I had an unused partition on my hard drive. I decided to install a 4.0 snapshot from a cdrom onto it. From there, I mounted my -STABLE /usr and copied the contents from the 4.0 /usr/bin into the -STABLE. Then I rebooted the -STABLE, and tried to remake the /usr/bin directory again using the -STABLE sources. I got an error message that said something like "This isn't NetBSD. You lose!" I thought that was cruel. So I cvsup'ed the latest -STABLE sources again and did make world, just to make sure everything was just right. Now it's working beautifully. I knew I could fix it without reinstalling! > > I did watch some of the stuff in Times Square in NY. In Washington > State, they cancelled a cellebration around the Space Needle because > they caught terrorist's coming in to WA from Canada. That part is > enough to keep you home on the computer :). > > Kent I actually live in downtown Seattle and had a beautiful view of the fireworks at the Space Needle from my roof. I guess they only cancelled allowing people in to Seattle Center to get a real close-up view. The most amazing thing though, was the sound of people cheering from all directions and cars honking for many minutes nonstop. That was pretty darn cool. Joseph > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html -- You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm. Colette. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 2:27:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E3414CEF for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjoseph@nwlink.com) Received: from nwlink.com (ip175.r7.d.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.173.175]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08709 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:27:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <386F276D.93082CA3@nwlink.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 02:24:45 -0800 From: R Joseph Wright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: still partition/slice restrictions? References: <001101bf54fc$0c431d40$8001a8c0@jayk-home3nt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jay Krell wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN585 > > Q: Any restrictions on how I divide the disk up? > > A: Yes. You must make sure that your root partition is below 1024 cylinders > so the BIOS can boot the kernel from it. (Note that this is a limitation in > the PC's BIOS, not FreeBSD). How hard would it be to create a PC BIOS that is oriented toward the BSD or Linux crowd? It seems that with resources freely available such as OSKit it would not be that difficult. I'd like to see a BIOS that has its own lightweight repair shell so you wouldn't need boot floppies in times of trouble. Any ideas? -- Best Regards, Joseph You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm. Colette. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 3:47:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA83914DB8 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: (qmail 2913 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2000 11:47:44 -0000 Received: from harlan.fred.net (HELO pcpsj.pfcs.com) (@208.238.64.78) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net with SMTP; 2 Jan 2000 11:47:44 -0000 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@pcnbs.pfcs.com [192.52.69.42] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlan@localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by pcnbs.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) via ESMTP id for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:44:53 -0500 (EST) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: netscape4.61 install problem under 3-stable X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 06:44:53 -0500 Message-ID: <5001.946813493@pcnbs.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't been able to get netscape 4.61 working on any of my 3-STABLE boxes. At the moment, I can't even get it to install. Here's what I get. What am I missing? Thanks... H --- Script started on Thu Dec 23 00:25:00 1999 root@pcnbs:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-communicator# uname -a FreeBSD pcnbs.pfcs.com 3.4-RC FreeBSD 3.4-RC #16: Thu Dec 16 22:25:27 EST 1999 root@pcnbs.pfcs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PCNBS-BP i386 root@pcnbs:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-communicator# make clean ===> Cleaning for XFree86-3.3.5 ===> Cleaning for netscape-communicator-4.61 root@pcnbs:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-communicator# make install ===> Extracting for netscape-communicator-4.61 >> Checksum OK for communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz. ===> netscape-communicator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found You can make Netscape use 128-bit encryption by defining USE_128BIT ===> Patching for netscape-communicator-4.61 ===> Ignoring empty patch directory ===> Perhaps you forgot the -P flag to cvs co or update? ===> Configuring for netscape-communicator-4.61 ===> Installing for netscape-communicator-4.61 ===> Warning: your umask is "0002". If this is not desired, set it to an appropriate value and install this port again by ``make reinstall''. ===> netscape-communicator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found /usr/libexec/ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.3: minor version -1 older than expected 0, using it anyway ld.so failed: bad magic number in "/usr/lib/libc.so.3" *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root@pcnbs:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-communicator# exit exit Script done on Thu Dec 23 00:25:55 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 4: 9: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netcore.fi (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C8814CF1 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 04:08:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Pekka.Savola@netcore.fi) Received: from unf (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by netcore.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12546 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:08:57 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> X-Sender: pekkas@netcore.home X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:08:29 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pekka Savola Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate >> ----- >> >> Will not be run. Logrotate does some really heavy httpd log checking and >> resolving - Like 1-2 hours job on a P3/500. Replacing >> /usr/local/sbin/logrotate with some neat little script seems to be run nicely. >> Also, 'touch /etc/crontab' doesn't help any. Running the script manually >> works fine. >> >> Is there something I'm missing here? > >Well, I'd guess you're looking in the wrong place. This has nothing >to do with cron. Sorry, I don't quite understand this. If this has nothing to do with crontab, *what* does it have to do with then? I run /usr/local/sbin/logrotate from the shell: bash-2.03# /usr/local/sbin/logrotate [works fine] I add it to /etc/crontab: 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate [Won't be run] I fail to see what *could* be wrong with the script because it works on an interactive shell session just fine. Any further ideas? Pekka Savola pekkas@netcore.fi --- Across the nations the stories spread like spiderweb laid upon spiderweb, and men and women planned the future, believing they knew truth. They planned, and the Pattern absorbed their plans, weaving toward the future foretold. -- Robert Jordan: The Path of Daggers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 4:16:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.mx.com.au (tardis.mx.com.au [203.34.34.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6FD14FA6 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 04:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from justin@tardis.mx.com.au) Received: from localhost (justin@localhost) by tardis.mx.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA89637; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:45:33 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from justin@tardis.mx.com.au) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:45:33 +1030 (CST) From: Justin Hawkins To: Pekka Savola Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Pekka Savola wrote: > >Well, I'd guess you're looking in the wrong place. This has nothing > >to do with cron. > > Sorry, I don't quite understand this. If this has nothing to do with > crontab, *what* does it have to do with then? > > I run /usr/local/sbin/logrotate from the shell: > > bash-2.03# /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [works fine] > > I add it to /etc/crontab: > > 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [Won't be run] > > I fail to see what *could* be wrong with the script because it works on an > interactive shell session just fine. cron jobs are typically run with a different environment than a login shell. The most important difference is probably the PATH environment variable. On my system programs run from cron have only /usr/bin and /bin in their path. If your script uses programs in /sbin or /usr/local/bin without using absolute pathnames it will fail. Are you checking root's mail - you might be getting error messages from your script going there. If you are using bash, try: export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin then run your script again from the shell and see if it still works. - Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 4:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kaunas.aiva.lt (kaunas.aiva.lt [193.219.247.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E634414C13 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 04:21:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from f1926@kaunas.aiva.lt) Received: from briviba.lt (s25.kaunas.aiva.lt [193.219.247.155]) by kaunas.aiva.lt (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20450 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:21:35 +0200 From: Tomas Furmonavicius To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: C++ problems again Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:13:14 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00010214241001.02252@briviba.lt> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm still having problems with various C++ stuff on FreeBSD 3.3. I'm trying to intall Python bindings for Qt. When I'm trying to import qt module in python, I get: ImportError: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2: Undefined symbol "__unwind_function" Everything is compiled with GCC 2.7.x. Where is the problem? Tomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 5: 3: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D205114EEA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:03:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA26130; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:00:57 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:00:56 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Dmitry A. Novoselov" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp daemons and cvsuping ports collection Message-ID: <20000102130056.C24810@florence.pavilion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:25:10PM +0600, Dmitry A. Novoselov wrote: > hi! > > i actually a little curious about ftp daemon on my brand-new fbsd > instalation. what it is? i've heard of wu-ftpd, proftpd, ncftpd and > others - how are they different from standart ftp daemon? why should i > transfer to one of those (or maybe i should not?) what are advantages and > drawbacks of such upgrade? will i gain any speed/security benefits? It's our own one, and has been in FreeBSD since the project stated: revision 1.1.1.1 date: 1994/05/27 12:39:16; author: rgrimes; state: Exp; lines: +0 -0 BSD 4.4 Lite Libexec Sources It's been enhanced majorly since then however, and for most use it's quite adequate. On my anon ftp server however I'm currently using ncftpd to handle a larger number of connections efficiently. I don't know what ftpd is running on ftp.freebsd.org however. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 6:34:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub1.ncal.verio.com (mailhub1.ncal.verio.com [204.247.247.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B5714E48 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@ncal.verio.com) Received: from shell1.ncal.verio.com (ericdano@shell1.ncal.verio.com [204.247.248.254]) by mailhub1.ncal.verio.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA29434 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ericdano@localhost) by shell1.ncal.verio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12081 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:34:42 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1. ncal.verio.com: ericdano owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:34:42 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Dannewitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: natd problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, well, my Linux box that was doing NAT decided to kill itself for the next century. So, I decided I'd start the new year off right and jump into FreeBSD 3.2. Now, I have compiled the kernel to support IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT. my rc.firewall file looks like: /sbin/ipfw -f flush /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl1 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any I added natd 8668/divert to my /etc/services and my rc.conf file has the following: ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_lx1="inet 216.38.135.133 netmask 255.255.255.240" defaultrouter="216.38.135.129" network_interfaces="xl1 xl0 lo0" ifconfig_lx0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" gateway_enable="YES" natd_program="/sbin/natd" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="216.38.135.133" natd_flags="" # Additional flags for natd. tcp_extensions="NO" And finally my network cards are: routy# ifconfig -a xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:10:4b:31:2d:60 media: 10base2/BNC supported media: 10base2/BNC 10base5/AUI 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP xl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 216.38.135.133 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 216.38.135.143 ether 00:10:5a:1e:3c:64 media: 10baseT/UTP supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Any ideas? The config's external interface card works, but the internal one is all messed up............ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 6:49:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from barter.dewline.com (barter.dewline.com [209.208.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5A514F81; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:49:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mackler@barter.dewline.com) Received: (from mackler@localhost) by barter.dewline.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10783; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:49:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001021449.JAA10783@barter.dewline.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Adam Mackler Subject: creating bootable CD-ROM Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I have a couple questions related to booting my FreeBSD system from a CD-ROM: First, is "El Torito" the only way to boot from a CD-ROM? Is there some way to use disklabel to make the ISO9660 filesystem bootable, so that /boot and /kernel can just go in the CD-ROM filesystem, rather than being embedded in the image of a floppy disk? Second, what is the purpose of the -C boot flag? On the boot(8) man page is says "boot from CDROM," but I can boot from a CD (El Torito style) without it. Does it have any use, possibly in the context of my first question? Thanks very much in advance for any clues that anyone here has. Adam Mackler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7: 1: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netserv1.chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268EA14D09 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@netserv1.chg.ru) Received: (from dima@localhost) by netserv1.chg.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA60352 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:00:49 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:00:49 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Sivachenko Message-Id: <200001021500.SAA60352@netserv1.chg.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Video CD Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I have Video CD disk and I want to see film on it. But programs such as mpeg_play require _file_ as input. When I am trying to mount this CD, I get: cd9660: Input/output error What media type this CD is? How can I mount it or what program should I use in order to reproduce the film? Thank you in advance, Dima. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:23:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4068D14A14; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (jrs@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA38304; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:23:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:23:22 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: Adam Mackler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating bootable CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <200001021449.JAA10783@barter.dewline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Look up mkisofs. > I have a couple questions related to booting my FreeBSD > system from a CD-ROM: > First, is "El Torito" the only way to boot from a CD-ROM? > Is there some way to use disklabel to make the ISO9660 > filesystem bootable, so that /boot and /kernel can just > go in the CD-ROM filesystem, rather than being embedded in > the image of a floppy disk? > Second, what is the purpose of the -C boot flag? On the boot(8) > man page is says "boot from CDROM," but I can boot from > a CD (El Torito style) without it. Does it have any use, > possibly in the context of my first question? > Thanks very much in advance for any clues that anyone here has. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:37:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150AD14E51 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Received: from morgaine (nyf-ny12-34.ix.netcom.com [198.211.18.226]) by wondermutt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20620 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:39:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Message-Id: <4.1.20000102103607.00992620@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 10:37:45 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Subject: IPFW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I was hoping someone might be able to help me muddle through understanding and correcting a few of my filter rules. Network configuration is: * FreeBSD gateway maintaining an assigned Outside IP * Same box maintains an Inside IP on 192.168.x.x subnet * All inside boxes assigned 192.168.x.x IP's For example, if I want to allow SSH connections only *to* the FreeBSD box, but I want both the FreeBSD and the internal boxes to be able to generate outgoing SSH sessions in the outside world, is the following enough?: # Allow all traffic from inside out $fwcmd add pass all from ${iip} to ${inet}:${imask} $fwcmd add pass all from ${inet}:${imask} to ${iip} # Allow access to SSH $fwcmd add pass any from any to ${oip} 22 setup $fwcmd add pass any from ${oip} to any 22 setup # Allow all established connections to pass $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to any established Also, if I wanted users on the inside network to be able to access external hosts for popmail, but wanted to have popmail disabled on the freebsd server, would the following solve the problem, or would it cause a security hole?: $fwcmd add pass any from ${inet}:${imask} to any 110 via ${oif} setup Thanks in advance!!! --John Papalia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:38:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3117714E86 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: from ip252.kingston.dialup.canada.psi.net ([154.5.64.252]) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 124n54-0002B4-00; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:38:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:34:36 -0500 (EST) From: Dru To: ong1s@cmich.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.4 kernel, ppp -auto shutdown In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 ong1s@cmich.edu wrote: > What dos "sio3: 182more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total > 182)" mean? sio3 is my modem. Try changing your speed in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf to: set speed 38400 Worked for me. The whys and wherefores can be found at www.freebsd.org/search. > After starting ppp -auto ondemand, how to shut it down gentlely? I use ps > to grep the pid and then kill it. or read pid from /var/log/ppp.log. There > aught to be a better way. At the PPP prompt, type bye, or if you're lazy, by. > Happy New Year! Same to you! Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:53:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from seu.edu.cn (seic3.seu.edu.cn [202.119.24.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF8715040 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bxgu@seu.edu.cn) Received: from seu.edu.cn ([202.119.11.184]) by seu.edu.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05045 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:53:48 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <386F753D.E129C893@seu.edu.cn> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 23:56:45 +0800 From: Alexander Gu Reply-To: bxgu@seu.edu.cn Organization: High Performance Network Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how can i find the manuals of programing on freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hellO! All: How can I get the manuals of freebsd programing? How can I get the manuals of kernel programing ? alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:54: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from seu.edu.cn (seic3.seu.edu.cn [202.119.24.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810F914BF3 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bxgu@seu.edu.cn) Received: from seu.edu.cn ([202.119.11.184]) by seu.edu.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05055 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:54:32 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <386F756C.80E3F00D@seu.edu.cn> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 23:57:32 +0800 From: Alexander Gu Reply-To: bxgu@seu.edu.cn Organization: High Performance Network Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how cAN i DEBUG FREE BSD KERNEL?:) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HELLo! hOW CAN i DEBUG freebsd kernel?:) alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 7:55: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.mia.bellsouth.net (mail1.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.16.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0213D14C37 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otterr@bellsouth.net) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-77-245-65.mia.bellsouth.net [216.77.245.65]) by mail1.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id KAA19606 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:54:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386F2CF0.2CFD539C@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 10:48:16 +0000 From: Otter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.4 kernel, ppp -auto shutdown References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dru wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 ong1s@cmich.edu wrote: > > > What dos "sio3: 182more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total > > 182)" mean? sio3 is my modem. > > Try changing your speed in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf to: > > set speed 38400 or try 57600, if you're presently set at 112k. i remember having the same problem here (back in the days before ADSL) -Otter > > > Worked for me. The whys and wherefores can be found at > www.freebsd.org/search. > > > After starting ppp -auto ondemand, how to shut it down gentlely? I use ps > > to grep the pid and then kill it. or read pid from /var/log/ppp.log. There > > aught to be a better way. > > At the PPP prompt, type bye, or if you're lazy, by. > > > Happy New Year! > > Same to you! > > Dru > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 8:45:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8056114EBA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30457; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:45:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:45:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200001021645.RAA30457@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video CD X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <84nv0a$2rlv$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dmitry Sivachenko wrote in list.freebsd-questions: > I have Video CD disk and I want to see film on it. But programs such as > mpeg_play require _file_ as input. When I am trying to mount this CD, > I get: cd9660: Input/output error > What media type this CD is? How can I mount it or what program should I > use in order to reproduce the film? Use tosha (/usr/ports/audio/tosha) to read the VCD tracks. You can pipe them into MpegTV, for example (www.mpegtv.com). That's how I watch VideoCDs with FreeBSD when I'm not at home where my real VideoCD player is. :) Regards Oliver PS: You'll need a SCSI CD-ROM drive. -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 8:52:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gallagher.chicago.il.us (el01-24-131-151-85.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.151.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D358014A1F for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from burke@gallagher.chicago.il.us) Received: from fatman2 (fatman2.burke.org [192.168.0.2]) by gallagher.chicago.il.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA06048; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:52:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from burke@gallagher.chicago.il.us) Message-ID: <002601bf5541$b6384740$0200a8c0@burke.org> From: "Burke Gallagher" To: "Eric Dannewitz" , References: Subject: Re: natd problems Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:52:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have found one error, and two possible typos, and one question about your setup. The error: In the rc.conf file, there is an error in the natd_interface file it should be the name of the interface not the IP address. natd_interface="xl1" The typos (could be in the rc.conf file or the message) ifconfig_lx1 and ifconfig_lx0 should not this be ifconfig_xl0 and ifconfig_xl1 the setup question: your external interface uses UTP cabling. does your internal network use UTP or coax (currently the card is using coax) Hope this helps burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Dannewitz" To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 8:34 AM Subject: natd problems > Ok, well, my Linux box that was doing NAT decided to kill itself for the > next > century. So, I decided I'd start the new year off right and jump into > FreeBSD > 3.2. > > Now, I have compiled the kernel to support IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT. > my rc.firewall file looks like: > /sbin/ipfw -f flush > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl1 > /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any > > I added > natd 8668/divert > > to my /etc/services > > and my rc.conf file has the following: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_lx1="inet 216.38.135.133 netmask 255.255.255.240" ^ is this a type ifconfig_lx1, should be ifconfig_xl1 ??? > defaultrouter="216.38.135.129" > network_interfaces="xl1 xl0 lo0" > ifconfig_lx0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ^ is this a type ifconfig_lx0, should be ifconfig_xl0 ??? > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" > gateway_enable="YES" > natd_program="/sbin/natd" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="216.38.135.133" ^ ERROR HERE ====+ shoudl be natd_interface="lx1" > natd_flags="" # Additional flags for natd. > tcp_extensions="NO" > > And finally my network cards are: > routy# ifconfig -a > xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:10:4b:31:2d:60 > media: 10base2/BNC does the internal network use UTP (10BaseT) or coax (10Base2) ???? > supported media: 10base2/BNC 10base5/AUI 10baseT/UTP > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP > xl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 216.38.135.133 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 216.38.135.143 > ether 00:10:5a:1e:3c:64 > media: 10baseT/UTP > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP > 10baseT/UTP > tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 > sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 > ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > Any ideas? The config's external interface card works, but the internal > one is all messed up............ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 9:12:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2281114BE9 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:12:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-9-120.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.120]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id MAA11577 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:12:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386F86F9.D6D423B9@siteplus.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:12:25 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Modem or Second H/D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is for you technical people. I have an old 486 machine that I was going to set up as a backup gateway while working on my regular gateway machine. I have a couple of small hardrives in it, so I need both just for the minimum configuration. I first loaded a fresh copy of 3.4-stable via ed0 which i have configured at 0x300 with an irq10 . Everything went perfectly until I moved the internal pnp modem from the other machine in preparation for rebuilding the kernel. When I rebooted with the modem installed suddenly the second hardrive was not recognized. I can check the hard drive configuration in sysinstall and the drive is there as well as the proper slices. I can take out the modem and the system comes up normally. Put the modem back in and I get these messages that second hard drive is not configured. Any ideas, Jim Weeks jim@siteplus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 9:57:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netcom.com (netcom11.netcom.com [199.183.9.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCE414E31 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stanb@netcom.com) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16707 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:57:06 -0800 (PST) From: Stan Brown Message-Id: <200001021757.JAA16707@netcom.com> Subject: What is this interface ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 100 12:57:06 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I seem to have a network interface that I don't undrestand. An ifconfig -a gives (in addition to the ones I understand): ds0: flags=8008 mtu 65532 I'm runing 3.4 STABLE. I can't find anythign in my kernel config that seems to call for this device, not does it seem to have a man page. Curiosity is killing me :-) -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 10: 3:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hda.hda.com (hda.bicnet.net [208.220.68.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DBE14E8B; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12865; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <200001021700.MAA12865@hda.hda.com> Subject: "bad namelist": no /dev/null? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:00:41 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A missing /dev/null will give a mysterious "bad namelist" error. I've seen a few questions about this but no answers. I managed to screw myself up today by wiping out /dev/null (trying to build "ps.exe" for win32 and run it under wine, stupidly as root). It took me a while to figure out what had happened. The rc script dumps stuff into /dev/null and also copies /dev/null to initialize things - the result is pretty weird. Those of you who were doing "who" and seeing the output of "umount" now know what happened - umount onto dev null was then being copied to initialize utmp. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 10:53:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BF114D7E for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:53:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2095.bossig.com [208.26.242.95]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:00:45 -0800 Message-ID: <386F9EA4.66B1B919@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 10:53:24 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: some performance issues References: <386C023E.680FC31@inna.net> <386C0676.F39EC477@3-cities.com> <386C2354.ABD1ED54@nwlink.com> <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <386D9271.C3B7DD95@3-cities.com> <386F2582.E5910672@nwlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG R Joseph Wright wrote: > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > > > > > I recompiled my kernel and changed the flags from 0x80ff80ff to > > > > > 0xa0ffa0ff. What is a good program to use to see if I can really tell a > > > > > difference? I tried out some of my bigger programs like star office and > > > > > gimp. Star Office still took a little while to load, gimp seemed to fly > > > > > (when it wasn't crashing). > > > > > > > > I use "iozone -s 160m" because I have 128MB of memory. The size of the > > > > file needs to be larger than memory so you aren't benchmarking the > > > > cache. You can find it in the packages/benchmark area of the CDROM. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > Kent, I tried that, only for me it worked doing "iozone 160". Here is > > > my results: > > > > > > 11483869 bytes/second for reading > > > 15155142 bytes/second for writing > > > > > > Is that really slow? It's nowhere near 33MB/second. I have a Maxtor > > > 7000rpm with UDMA66 capabilities, although I'll have to wait for -STABLE > > > to support that, and a new motherboard as well. I may recompile with > > > the old flags just to see the difference. > > > > > > > What you will see with the old flags is probably 6-7MB/s. Remember > > that UDMA66 is the rate that the buffer transfers data. The continuous > > rate off of the HD is MUCH less :). I think the lvd IBM Scsi's are > > rated at 20.2MB/s continuous and not the 80MB/s of the interface. > > > > Kent > > I didn't have to rebuild with the old flags, I just rebooted the old > one. The results were noticeably lower: You can set the flags by doing a boot -c. That leaves the kernel in a permanent configuration and you can play with other features. > > 8918121 bytes/second read > 10599623 bytes/second write > > I looked back in the book and saw another option, 0x1000 for LBA > addressing. So, I recompiled with flags 0xb0ffb0ff. Here are the > results for that: > > 11652108 bytes/second read > 15219586 bytes/second write > > Slightly higher than with 0xa0ffa0ff. I'm getting the hang of this. I think you have the rates reversed. It has been my experience that the read is always faster than the write. If you had set the LBA and the drive wasn't using LBA, you suddenly wouldn't be able to access your system. You have to be carefull what you specify :). I don't believe that rawio means anything. I think it is sort of like a race car setup for time trials. They would be dangerous when you run them at full speed and a full tank of fuel. You use HD I/O through the cache and a benchmark that uses cache is more representative of what your programs are going to see. You need to be able to do both styles of testing because each has its place. The ports have a newer version of iozone. It is up to version 3.9. With it you have to specify the size as the -s option. I have a couple of drives that are very fast sequentially but in the random section of iozone they fall way down. I had two space heater scsi drives. They were an old Fujitsu and a Maxtor PO12s and were 5.25" full heights. They specified the amount of air flow needed to maintain the warranty. They lost a cooling fan where I used to work and the heat turned spots of a Fujitsu case blue as the drive cooked. The Maxtor was much faster on sequential I/O but the Fujitsu was much faster on random I/O. Working on a server, the Fujitsu would have been more effective. It remained the fastest on random until I replaced the Maxtor with a 4.1GB Seagate Barracudda. It was faster in all categories than the Maxtor and and the Fujitsu. The IDE drives in that timeframe were running around 2MB/s and the only way I knew I was using a shared drive was when programs loaded much faster. The access over the 100Mbs network was faster from the Baracudda than it was from the local drive. > > > > > Happy New Year (why am I sitting at this computer 8-) )! > > > > Well, if it makes you feel better, there are two of us doing the same > > thing. I hit my first 2000 problem. I wanted to do an update from > > today's Stock Market with Quicken 99 and I suddenly had 3 accounts > > that were each worth $10-40M US. Something overflowed. The smallest > > account was the one that jumped to $40M. The system was quickly > > restored from the last backup and now I'm installing Quicken 2000. > > People believe stuff like this. All I could do was chuckle. It is also > > the first time I ran Quicken since I upgraded to Windows 2000 gold. > > I just had my first y2k problem too. After eating too much celebratory > ben&jerry's ice cream last night, I proceeded to delete the contents of > my /usr/bin directory. I tried a number of things like just going in to > /usr/src/usr.bin and doing 'make'. I didn't have 'make' anymore. > Luckily, I had an unused partition on my hard drive. I decided to > install a 4.0 snapshot from a cdrom onto it. From there, I mounted my > -STABLE /usr and copied the contents from the 4.0 /usr/bin into the > -STABLE. Then I rebooted the -STABLE, and tried to remake the /usr/bin > directory again using the -STABLE sources. I got an error message that > said something like "This isn't NetBSD. You lose!" I thought that was > cruel. Think of it as shock therapy. You were trying something that was really a bad idea and they wanted to wake you up :). > > So I cvsup'ed the latest -STABLE sources again and did make world, just > to make sure everything was just right. Now it's working beautifully. > I knew I could fix it without reinstalling! I tried -current, which is the 4.0 stuff for awhile. I needed more time to make it work and wanted to use the system and not play with the OS. I'm retired and could play with current on a different machine. I have one that I could convert from Windows 2000 to FreeBSD. I was using it during the beta testing because it was just above their suggest minimum. That means it isn't really fast enough to take advantage of NT but would run FreeBSD just fine. It has 6 years of TurboTax runs on it and I just have to move them to a different system. I can't eat ice cream any more because of the sugar. The 4.0 /bin wouldn't work because there are probably many changes to /etc and other directories. The system is spread out and they all have to be at the same level. I re-did the Quicken download around 10-11 am on Saturday and everything was back to normal. I think what happened was that they shut the databases down for the year end but didn't turnoff the download stuff and it returned strange or all 1's when I did my nightly update. This translated into a really hokey price for the stocks. Instead of a stock being worth $10 it was suddenly $10000 or something equally large. > > > > > I did watch some of the stuff in Times Square in NY. In Washington > > State, they cancelled a cellebration around the Space Needle because > > they caught terrorist's coming in to WA from Canada. That part is > > enough to keep you home on the computer :). > > > > Kent > > I actually live in downtown Seattle and had a beautiful view of the > fireworks at the Space Needle from my roof. I guess they only cancelled > allowing people in to Seattle Center to get a real close-up view. The > most amazing thing though, was the sound of people cheering from all > directions and cars honking for many minutes nonstop. That was pretty > darn cool. I watched it on TV. The fireworks at various levels on the Space Needle were cool. They were also lighting fireworks locally. Someone always has some firecrackers and the loud noises had all of the local birds in an up roar. We have 1000's of Canadian Geese feeding locally until it gets cold and they move further south. Some stay around until it starts to freeze the Columbia river over or we have a lot of snow on the ground. This doesn't happen very often and so we have these large birds around all winter. Because of the birds, there are some areas you wouldn't want to walk around wearing really nice shoes :). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 11:18:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D2514E11 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:18:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2095.bossig.com [208.26.242.95]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:25:33 -0800 Message-ID: <386FA46B.3FFD19D8@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:18:03 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Flattie McGee Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lsof (list open files) make problem. References: <386F0C3D.4574147@globelinks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Flattie McGee wrote: > > Hi.. I'm trying to make this port, but I seem to be having some trouble > (as always). Can anyone help me with this? *Ugh* The current version is 4.48. I rebuilt it on 29 Dec without any problems. I went through my system after upgrading to 3.4 and slowly rebuilt everything. It looks like you might be out of sync with the your current system. With 3.4, you can run "pkg_version -c | more" and see what you need to upgrade. I got out of sync a couple of times and had to do a "make clean" on individual ports to square things around. Kent > > [/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof] > ++# umask 22 > > [/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof] > ++# make > > ===> Building for lsof-4.47 > (cd lib; make DEBUG="-O" CFGF="-DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS -DHASPROCFS > -DHAS9660FS -DLSOF_VSTR=\"3.4-RELEASE\"") > cc -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS > -DLSOF_VSTR="3.4-RELEASE" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O -c ckkv.c > In file included from ../dlsof.h:110, > from ../lsof.h:167, > from ckkv.c:43: > /usr/include/ufs/mfs/mfsnode.h:49: field `buf_queue' has incomplete type > > In file included from ../dlsof.h:121, > from ../lsof.h:167, > from ckkv.c:43: > /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' > /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or > union > /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' > /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or > union > In file included from ../dlsof.h:193, > from ../lsof.h:167, > from ckkv.c:43: > /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. (This is REPEATED 4 more times). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 11:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (castles551.castles.com [208.214.165.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B8C14EAA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12062; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001021932.LAA12062@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Adam Mackler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating bootable CD-ROM In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Jan 2000 09:49:38 EST." <200001021449.JAA10783@barter.dewline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:32:24 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One list only, please. Especially, don't crosspost between -questions and -hackers. > First, is "El Torito" the only way to boot from a CD-ROM? On the PC, the "El Torito" standard is the only CD-ROM boot method with any sort of wide support. > Is there some way to use disklabel to make the ISO9660 > filesystem bootable, so that /boot and /kernel can just > go in the CD-ROM filesystem, rather than being embedded in > the image of a floppy disk? No. disklabel is strictly for UFS filesystems, and knows nothing about CDROMs. You should read the El Torito standard (it's quite brief) and learn about "no emulation" mode. (That's what mkisofs calls it, I don't have the document handy to give you the real name.) In this mode, your bootstrap code (which must live in a file in the iso filesystem) is loaded as a primary bootstrap, and the CD-ROM is exposed directly as a BIOS device. This is how the NT bootstrap works; we will probably be adopting it now that the latest release of mkisofs claims to support it. > Second, what is the purpose of the -C boot flag? On the boot(8) > man page is says "boot from CDROM," but I can boot from > a CD (El Torito style) without it. Does it have any use, > possibly in the context of my first question? It's an obsolete flag passed to the kernel telling it to search for a CDROM that it can mount as the root filesystem. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 11:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D9E14F59 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:55:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2095.bossig.com [208.26.242.95]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:02:45 -0800 Message-ID: <386FAD2E.9827B64A@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:55:26 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru Cc: ong1s@cmich.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.4 kernel, ppp -auto shutdown References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dru wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 ong1s@cmich.edu wrote: > > > What dos "sio3: 182more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total > > 182)" mean? sio3 is my modem. > > Try changing your speed in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf to: > > set speed 38400 > > Worked for me. The whys and wherefores can be found at > www.freebsd.org/search. Actually, you should set it faster than that. In order to fully do the v42.bis compression, you need a rate that is ~4x your connect rate. At 56kb, that would be 230,400 but most systems have 115,200 as a divisor of 1 for the uart and they won't go that high. If you have a slow system, it may not be able to support sio at 115200 and you could have to drop it until everything is reliable. He may need to specify rts/cts buffering. It seems like the system defaults to everything proper except the speed of 115200. > > > After starting ppp -auto ondemand, how to shut it down gentlely? I use ps > > to grep the pid and then kill it. or read pid from /var/log/ppp.log. There > > aught to be a better way. > > At the PPP prompt, type bye, or if you're lazy, by. That won't work because he isn't running interactive. What he sees is Working in interactive mode Warning: No available tunnel devices found (Device busy) The -auto starts it up in the background and he has to close it down by other means such as setting up ppp to allow pppctl to be used to pass commands to ppp. I use a local domain socket and that leaves a mess if you don't close things down properly :). I have done that many times and had to clean up the mess afterwards :). Kent > > > Happy New Year! > > Same to you! > > Dru > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 12:31:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tupac.portal.v.pl (tupac.portal.v.pl [212.160.101.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F7E14CC7 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:31:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@tupac.portal.v.pl) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by tupac.portal.v.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01240 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:11:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@tupac.portal.v.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:11:11 +0100 (CET) From: Charlie ROOT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: boot.flp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where i can get boot.flp to make start disckette and get Freebsd 3.4 from ftp server Bye To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 12:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.chl.chalmers.se (ra.chl.chalmers.se [129.16.214.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C2C14F59 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:38:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from di98jobj@chl.chalmers.se) Received: from fiskbil (nat.studenthem.gu.se [193.10.163.20]) by ra.chl.chalmers.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16829 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:38:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000102213209.00991340@mail.chl.chalmers.se> X-Sender: di98jobj@mail.chl.chalmers.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:39:17 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Johansson Subject: SCSI and boot problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there! Having used linux for a while I decided to try FreeBSD and when booting from the 3.4 stable cd I get the following error ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB already dequeued (0xc0c33c00) I have a Symbios 53c875 chip on a Dawi control SCSI adapter and I have to SCSI devices connected to it. One CD-Recorder Sony CDU926S and one CD-ROM Plextor UltraPlex 40x. I have tried booting from both CDs as well as from floppy but I get the same error. I also tried removing the SCSI adapter and boot from an IDE-CD which worked, but when I have installed FreeBSD on my Primary Slave HD I can't get the boot manager to work properly. A prompt that looks something like this comes up. F1 DOS F5 Drive 1 When I press F5 I get another menu looking like this F1 FreeBSD F5 Drive 0 When I press F1 here the computer just beeps and nothing happens. If I choose to boot DOS (win98) it works OK, but not FreeBSD. If anyone could help me with theses problems I'd be really grateful. /Bjorn Johansson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 12:57:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasknow.com (h139-142-245-96.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6A314BCC for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:57:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA33791; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:57:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:57:31 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Pekka Savola Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Pekka Savola wrote: > >Well, I'd guess you're looking in the wrong place. This has nothing > >to do with cron. > > Sorry, I don't quite understand this. If this has nothing to do with > crontab, *what* does it have to do with then? > > I run /usr/local/sbin/logrotate from the shell: > > bash-2.03# /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [works fine] > > I add it to /etc/crontab: > > 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [Won't be run] > > I fail to see what *could* be wrong with the script because it works on an > interactive shell session just fine. > > Any further ideas? > > Pekka Savola pekkas@netcore.fi > --- Hi, Pekka; I'm just going to state a few obvious, general hints that you may or may not already know. Hope this helps. minute hour mday month wday who command > 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate This job will run 1 minute after midnight on day 1 of the week (I believe this would be monday morning. Sunday would be 0). With the job defined this way, it will only run when those conditions are satisfied. (i.e., Monday morning at 12:01). If it's not Monday morning at 12:01, your job won't run :-) Did you kill -HUP cron? If you didn't do this (or reboot the system), your job won't run. Since you can run it from bash just fine, as someone has said, check your environment variables. Off hand, I don't know which log rotator you're using, here (there are several :-) So, besides the path, see what other environment variables might apply to your situation and put them in /etc/crontab. I can't help you with configuring logrotate, because I don't run it. Just have a look at root's environment from a shell (since logrotate works fine from there), and copy any obvious environment settings to /etc/crontab. Checking the documentation for your log program couldn't hurt, either :-) And, someone has already suggested checking root's mail. Further to that, look at the full mail headers of the cron job (and any other cron jobs) and look for the X-Env: field(s), which show you exactly what environment variables are being used. - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:14:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FB415178 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 124qgN-000LNv-00; Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:28:51 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.092 #1) id 124qgN-0000yN-00; Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:28:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:28:51 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: What is this interface ? Message-ID: <20000102192851.A3602@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200001021757.JAA16707@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001021757.JAA16707@netcom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > I seem to have a network interface that I don't undrestand. An ifconfig > -a gives (in addition to the ones I understand): > > ds0: flags=8008 mtu 65532 > > I'm runing 3.4 STABLE. I can't find anythign in my kernel config that > seems to call for this device, not does it seem to have a man page. > Curiosity is killing me :-) When in doubt, grep the source tree. Look in /sys/net/if_disc.c, it appears to be some form of "discard" interface: /* * Discard interface driver for protocol testing and timing. * (Based on the loopback.) */ Also, from LINT: # The `disc' pseudo-device implements a minimal network interface, # which throws away all packets sent and never receives any. It is # included for testing purposes. You can probably remove it from your kernel config. If this is appearing when you don't have "pseudo-device disc", then that would be odd. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:20:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spamgaaf.compuserve.com (as-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.217.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A17014A24 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:20:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncptiddische@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id QAA19643 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:19:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:19:10 -0500 From: Nils Holland Subject: Routing / IP-Forwarding To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <200001021619_MC2-9312-39B0@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, here's another problem I'm trying to solve: I wanted to set up my FreeBSD-Box as a router in order to route IP-traffi= c between the local network and the Internet. The first thing I did was setting up a PPP-connection to my ISP on the FreeBSD machine. This connection is working and I can access the web from the BSD-box without a= ny problems. In the ppp.conf script I used the add default HISADDR command i= n order to set the default route to my ISP. Then I went to the NT workstations around here and made some changes to their network-configuration. For the TCP/IP protocoll I added my BSD-box = as gateway and my ISPs DNS-Server as DNS. I rebooted and though it must work= , but it didn't. Trying to access a website from the NT workstation failed,= just like trying to ping a host outside of the local network. I thought that maybe my default-route on the BSD-box might not come up properly, but using the route monitor command while doing the PPP connection showed me that it does come up the way it's supposed to. Now I'm kinda clueless. I remember that on Linux I had to use some ipforward / ipchains command in order to set up IP-Forwarding, but all documents I've read about FreeBSD didn't mention such things. BTW: The problem should not be related to my DNS-setup, since I can not ping remote machines by both host-name and IP-adress... Any cluse what I'm doing wrong? Help is always appreciated! Thanks, Nils To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1F814C18 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from AAnda34856@aol.com) Received: from AAnda34856@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id n.0.ee6e127 (4422) for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:25:15 -0500 (EST) From: AAnda34856@aol.com Message-ID: <0.ee6e127.25a11c3b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:25:15 EST Subject: Help to Northern Norway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 169 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've been trying to help a friend at S=F8r=F8ya in Northern Norway with his=20= Hayes=20 modem, which he brought with him from France some months ago. He can only=20 receive faxes, and of course not connect to Internet. The family would very=20 much stay in contact with the rest of the family in France ...There is noone= =20 up there to help him ... Does he have to register a new country code? Best regards, Arnfinn Anda 7a, rue Lefort Gonssolin 76130 Mt.St.Aignan T=E9l.: (0)235.702901 Fax: (0)235.158185 Mobile: (0)6.60732901 http://servnor.com main@servnor.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:29:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1B8150DE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1197.bossig.com [208.26.241.197]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:36:30 -0800 Message-ID: <386FC329.3F91C269@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:29:13 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nils Holland Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Routing / IP-Forwarding References: <200001021619_MC2-9312-39B0@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Holland wrote: > > Hi folks, > here's another problem I'm trying to solve: > > I wanted to set up my FreeBSD-Box as a router in order to route IP-traffic > between the local network and the Internet. The first thing I did was > setting up a PPP-connection to my ISP on the FreeBSD machine. This > connection is working and I can access the web from the BSD-box without any > problems. In the ppp.conf script I used the add default HISADDR command in > order to set the default route to my ISP. > > Then I went to the NT workstations around here and made some changes to > their network-configuration. For the TCP/IP protocoll I added my BSD-box as > gateway and my ISPs DNS-Server as DNS. I rebooted and though it must work, > but it didn't. Trying to access a website from the NT workstation failed, > just like trying to ping a host outside of the local network. > > I thought that maybe my default-route on the BSD-box might not come up > properly, but using the route monitor command while doing the PPP > connection showed me that it does come up the way it's supposed to. > > Now I'm kinda clueless. I remember that on Linux I had to use some > ipforward / ipchains command in order to set up IP-Forwarding, but all > documents I've read about FreeBSD didn't mention such things. > > BTW: The problem should not be related to my DNS-setup, since I can not > ping remote machines by both host-name and IP-adress... > > Any cluse what I'm doing wrong? Help is always appreciated! Did you start user-ppp with "ppp -nat"? Kent > > Thanks, > Nils > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:34:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2A514D2E for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:34:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 124sdf-0001vD-00; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:34:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:34:11 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: Jeff Palmer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IO adress on an ISA card In-Reply-To: <007b01bf54fb$1ec64ce0$c80bfea9@p0f7g7> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Jeff Palmer wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry if this is a duplicate email, the first one looks like it failed. > > > I happen to have a Legacy ISA card, windows reports it as irq 5 IO 0x320 > (if it matters, it's a 3com sportster 128K internal) > I think I noticed in the past that Windows "makes up" irq and port with a 3COM509B ISA card. I cannot check this right now. Try the config utility that comes with the card (or can be dowloaded from 3com) to tell you the true values. > However, when recompiling the kernel, (3.4-STABLE) it says something to > the affect of isic0 not found at 0x320 in the boot messages. > This means you have the values wrong. I wonder, did it work when you installed and gave the same values in the visual config screen? > How can I find the specific IO for the card, so i can use it in unix? > > I'd really appreciate any help available. > One final thing: Have you set (reserved) the value of the irq in the BIOS in the section PNP/PCI for the lecacy card to ISA or legacy or whatever your BIOS calls it? > Jeff Palmer > scorpio@sunline.net > > -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 10:26pm up 3 days,15 mins, load average: 2.09 2.08 2.02 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:35: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBBA14C0B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncptiddische@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id QAA18412; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:34:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:34:33 -0500 From: Nils Holland Subject: Re: Routing / IP-Forwarding To: Kent Stewart Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <200001021634_MC2-930B-7571@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nachricht geschrieben von Kent Stewart >Did you start user-ppp with "ppp -nat"? Kent< Well, I've always started PPP like that: << ppp >> ppp ON silvie: <<< dial Then it dialed and I had a connection. Is something wrong with than and i= f so, what should I change? Greetings, Nils To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 13:57:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CBB14D5B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:57:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1197.bossig.com [208.26.241.197]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:04:34 -0800 Message-ID: <386FC9CE.2FEB0DB2@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:57:34 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nils Holland Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Routing / IP-Forwarding References: <200001021634_MC2-930B-7571@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Holland wrote: > > Nachricht geschrieben von Kent Stewart > >Did you start user-ppp with "ppp -nat"? > > Kent< > > Well, I've always started PPP like that: > > << ppp > >> ppp ON silvie: > <<< dial > > Then it dialed and I had a connection. Is something wrong with than and if > so, what should I change? I have a ppp.conf that looks like the ppp.conf.sample for the pmdemand. My ISP returns an IP address and I have to use it. Everything else I do such as the access from Windows 2000 points to the FreeBSD system as the gateway. Do you have 'gateway_enable="YES"' in your etc/rc.conf?. I also specify tun0 as a network interface. network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0 tun0" ifconfig_tun0= My ISP doesn't use pap/chap and so my login goes on to the set login command. That part works, so you aren't defining something else. Kent > > Greetings, > Nils -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14: 4:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC8514BEA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1197.bossig.com [208.26.241.197]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:12:06 -0800 Message-ID: <386FCB7F.82C11BE@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:04:47 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charlie ROOT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot.flp References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charlie ROOT wrote: > > Where i can get boot.flp to make start disckette and get Freebsd 3.4 from > ftp server I would get it from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/ but you need to check for a mirror site close to you. You do that from http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html You are far better off buying the 4 cd's because everything including the ports/distfiles are on them. You really don't have a system until everything else is there. I don't know of any stores in Poland that sell them, so you are limited to the .pl. mirror sites. Kent > > Bye > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:21:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B057214D24 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjoseph@nwlink.com) Received: from nwlink.com (ip82.r2.d.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.172.82]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05883 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:21:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <386FCECB.894E4548@nwlink.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:18:51 -0800 From: R Joseph Wright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: some performance issues References: <386C023E.680FC31@inna.net> <386C0676.F39EC477@3-cities.com> <386C2354.ABD1ED54@nwlink.com> <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <386D9271.C3B7DD95@3-cities.com> <386F2582.E5910672@nwlink.com> <386F9EA4.66B1B919@3-cities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > > > Happy New Year (why am I sitting at this computer 8-) )! > > > > > > Well, if it makes you feel better, there are two of us doing the same > > > thing. I hit my first 2000 problem. I wanted to do an update from > > > today's Stock Market with Quicken 99 and I suddenly had 3 accounts > > > that were each worth $10-40M US. Something overflowed. The smallest > > > account was the one that jumped to $40M. The system was quickly > > > restored from the last backup and now I'm installing Quicken 2000. > > > People believe stuff like this. All I could do was chuckle. It is also > > > the first time I ran Quicken since I upgraded to Windows 2000 gold. > > > > I just had my first y2k problem too. After eating too much celebratory > > ben&jerry's ice cream last night, I proceeded to delete the contents of > > my /usr/bin directory. I tried a number of things like just going in to > > /usr/src/usr.bin and doing 'make'. I didn't have 'make' anymore. > > Luckily, I had an unused partition on my hard drive. I decided to > > install a 4.0 snapshot from a cdrom onto it. From there, I mounted my > > -STABLE /usr and copied the contents from the 4.0 /usr/bin into the > > -STABLE. Then I rebooted the -STABLE, and tried to remake the /usr/bin > > directory again using the -STABLE sources. I got an error message that > > said something like "This isn't NetBSD. You lose!" I thought that was > > cruel. > > Think of it as shock therapy. You were trying something that was > really a bad idea and they wanted to wake you up :). > Why is it a bad idea to remake that directory? It seemed like a much quicker way to fix the system than to make world all over again. Joseph > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html -- Best Regards, Joseph You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm. Colette. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:29:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E8F14EAA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjoseph@nwlink.com) Received: from nwlink.com (ip82.r2.d.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.172.82]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06256 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:29:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <386FD085.93BFA305@nwlink.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:26:13 -0800 From: R Joseph Wright X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: some performance issues References: <386C0676.F39EC477@3-cities.com> <386C2354.ABD1ED54@nwlink.com> <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <20000101160159.O1528@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > iozone is not really a storage device testing program. Use rawio (in > the Ports Collection) for that: it bypasses the cache. Read carefully > the warnings which tell you that you should not use the write tests on > a file system which contains data you want to keep. > > > Kent, I tried that, only for me it worked doing "iozone 160". Here is > > my results: > > > > 11483869 bytes/second for reading > > 15155142 bytes/second for writing > > This is sequential access. You'll never get that in practice. > > > Is that really slow? It's nowhere near 33MB/second. > > 33 MB/s is the transfer rate from disk buffer to CPU. The transfer > rate off the platter is slower, and your speeds there look pretty > good. But remember that they're the ideal case. > > > I have a Maxtor 7000rpm with UDMA66 capabilities, although I'll have > > to wait for -STABLE to support that, and a new motherboard as well. > > I may recompile with the old flags just to see the difference. > > I'd be interested to see the difference, but I don't think it'll be > very much. Try both with rawio, and look at the random access > results, which are the only ones that count in practice. > > Greg I tried rawio, and got the following using flags 0xb0ffb0ff: Random Read Random Write ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec anon 25352.3 1560 16548.4 1024 With flags set at 0x80ff80ff, I got: K/sec /sec 12992.0 806 After that, it core dumped. But I got double the speed with the new flags! I was pretty amazed. I did the test on an empty partition, so as not to disturb anything. BTW, your book The Complete FreeBSD has been tremendously helpful! Thank you 8) Joseph > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Best Regards, Joseph You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm. Colette. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:33:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E42014DDA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11208 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:32:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle.apana.org.au(203.3.126.130), claiming to be "ORACLE" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdT11206; Mon Jan 3 08:32:03 2000 Message-ID: <007101bf5571$99e832a0$827e03cb@ORACLE> From: "Doug Young" To: Subject: Mail / Sendmail Stuff Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:34:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd appreciate a "simple english" explanation of the minimum requirements for setting up of a local mailserver. I have a FreeBSD 3.2 installation setup as a gateway with various other operating systems on a LAN, permanent dialup modem connection to net, & "real" IP addresses, & primary & secondary DNS at the "ISP" end. The gateway box runs straight CLI mode FreeBSD 3.2, twin pentium 100's, 16Mb RAM, 2 x 650 Mb SCSI hard drives. So far I send & receive email via the "ISP's" system however I'm trying to figure out how to configure a local mailserver. To date I've searched the net for tutorials, the mailing list archives, man mail, man sendmail, FreeBSD Handbook, O'Reilly's "System Administrators Guide", & "The Complete FreeBSD" etc but I'm still in the dark about all this stuff. Its not immediately essential that I send & receive mail from the FreeBSD box, but I think its imperative that I have some way of filtering incoming mail (if only to cater for the several hundred per day FreeBSD list ones). Other than "mail" it doesn't appear that I have any "mail user agent" installed ... running "elm", "pine", "mutt" just return "command not found". I would like to get away from the peculiarities of Microsoft mail, particularly the "long line / short line" nonsense ... but this doesn't seem possible using Outlook Express 5 / Windows 2000. Many of the emails I receive have imbedded URL's / email addresses so the hyperlink thing is nice to have ..... is it possible to run a mail client of any sort in effectively plain text mode but retaining the benefits of 20th century technology like hyperlinks ??. Providing the setup is not too intricate, I have machines I could use to send / receive mail in either GUI mode Solaris or FreeBSD if this helps get around the existing weirdness of Microsoft mail. It appears sendmail is running although I haven't a clue how that happened .... maybe it just installs by default .... and "mail" appears to work at least partly, as I can send email by using "mail ", or alternatively by typing "d ..... however it appears nobody thought to tell the "mail" application its supposed to know about that because it flatly refuses to delete ANYTHING !! How does one teach it to do what its told ?? Next issue is that of the application apparently required to transfer mail to / from Windows systems. I gather that sendmail doesn't see eye to eye with POP3, so something else is needed here, presumably one of the myriad "mail transfer agents", although the documentation isn't particularly explicit about where these fit in with my setup. Last issue for the present, assuming whats needed is just another "something" to handle POP3 in addition to the present sendmail, is how to configure sendmail. Where does one locate a simple english explanation of what to put in sendmail.cf ??. As previously mentioned I've already tried unsuccessfully to find the answers in stuff like the mailing list archives, man mail, man sendmail, FreeBSD Handbook, O'Reilly's "System Administrators Guide", "The Complete FreeBSD". So far I haven't messed with the file as I'm not at all confident about what to do with it, so better to leave it alone til I know a lot more about the subject. I've attached my "sendmail.cf" file in case its of any help ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ R # # Copyright (c) 1998 Sendmail, Inc. All rights reserved. # Copyright (c) 1983, 1995 Eric P. Allman. All rights reserved. # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # By using this file, you agree to the terms and conditions set # forth in the LICENSE file which can be found at the top level of # the sendmail distribution. # # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE ##### ##### built by root@cathair on Tue May 18 03:31:45 GMT 1999 ##### in /usr/src/etc/sendmail ##### using /usr/src/etc/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/cf/ as configuration include directory ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### @(#)cfhead.m4 8.23 (Berkeley) 10/6/1998 ##### ##### @(#)cf.m4 8.29 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)freebsd.mc $Revision: 1.4.2.1 $ ##### ##### @(#)bsd4.4.m4 8.10 (Berkeley) 10/6/1998 ##### ##### @(#)generic.m4 8.9 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)redirect.m4 8.10 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)use_cw_file.m4 8.6 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)relay_based_on_MX.m4 8.7 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)mailertable.m4 8.10 (Berkeley) 10/6/1998 ##### ##### @(#)access_db.m4 8.8 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)blacklist_recipients.m4 8.9 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)virtusertable.m4 8.8 (Berkeley) 10/6/1998 ##### ##### @(#)local_lmtp.m4 8.5 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### ##### @(#)proto.m4 8.243 (Berkeley) 2/2/1999 ##### # level 8 config file format V8/Berkeley # override file safeties - setting this option compromises system security # need to set this now for the sake of class files #O DontBlameSendmail=safe ################## # local info # ################## Cwlocalhost # file containing names of hosts for which we receive email Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw # my official domain name # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain #Dj$w.Foo.COM CP. # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS # operators that cannot be in local usernames (i.e., network indicators) CO @ % ! # a class with just dot (for identifying canonical names) C.. # a class with just a left bracket (for identifying domain literals) C[[ # Mailer table (overriding domains) Kmailertable hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable # Virtual user table (maps incoming users) Kvirtuser hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable # Access list database (for spam stomping) Kaccess hash -o /etc/mail/access # MX map (to allow relaying to hosts that we MX for) Kmxserved bestmx -z: -T # Resolve map (to check if a host exists in check_mail) Kresolve host -a -T # Hosts that will permit relaying ($=R) FR-o /etc/mail/relay-domains # who I send unqualified names to (null means deliver locally) DR # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH # dequoting map Kdequote dequote # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class M: domains that should be converted to $M #CL root CE root # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DM # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON CPREDIRECT # Configuration version number DZ8.9.3 ############### # Options # ############### # strip message body to 7 bits on input? 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O OldStyleHeaders=True # SMTP daemon options #O DaemonPortOptions=Port=esmtp # privacy flags O PrivacyOptions=authwarnings # who (if anyone) should get extra copies of error messages #O PostMasterCopy=Postmaster # slope of queue-only function #O QueueFactor=600000 # queue directory O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue # timeouts (many of these) #O Timeout.initial=5m #O Timeout.connect=5m #O Timeout.iconnect=5m #O Timeout.helo=5m #O Timeout.mail=10m #O Timeout.rcpt=1h #O Timeout.datainit=5m #O Timeout.datablock=1h #O Timeout.datafinal=1h #O Timeout.rset=5m #O Timeout.quit=2m #O Timeout.misc=2m #O Timeout.command=1h #O Timeout.ident=30s #O Timeout.fileopen=60s O Timeout.queuereturn=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.normal=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.urgent=2d #O Timeout.queuereturn.non-urgent=7d O Timeout.queuewarn=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.normal=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.urgent=1h #O Timeout.queuewarn.non-urgent=12h #O Timeout.hoststatus=30m # should we not prune routes in route-addr syntax addresses? #O DontPruneRoutes # queue up everything before forking? O SuperSafe=True # status file O StatusFile=/var/log/sendmail.st # time zone handling: # if undefined, use system default # if defined but null, use TZ envariable passed in # if defined and non-null, use that info #O TimeZoneSpec= # default UID (can be username or userid:groupid) #O DefaultUser=mailnull # list of locations of user database file (null means no lookup) #O UserDatabaseSpec=/etc/userdb # fallback MX host #O FallbackMXhost=fall.back.host.net # if we are the best MX host for a site, try it directly instead of config err #O TryNullMXList # load average at which we just queue messages #O QueueLA=8 # load average at which we refuse connections #O RefuseLA=12 # maximum number of children we allow at one time #O MaxDaemonChildren=12 # maximum number of new connections per second #O ConnectionRateThrottle=3 # work recipient factor #O RecipientFactor=30000 # deliver each queued job in a separate process? #O ForkEachJob # work class factor #O ClassFactor=1800 # work time factor #O RetryFactor=90000 # shall we sort the queue by hostname first? #O QueueSortOrder=priority # minimum time in queue before retry #O MinQueueAge=30m # default character set #O DefaultCharSet=iso-8859-1 # service switch file (ignored on Solaris, Ultrix, OSF/1, others) #O ServiceSwitchFile=/etc/service.switch # hosts file (normally /etc/hosts) #O HostsFile=/etc/hosts # dialup line delay on connection failure #O DialDelay=10s # action to take if there are no recipients in the message O NoRecipientAction=add-to-undisclosed # chrooted environment for writing to files #O SafeFileEnvironment=/arch # are colons OK in addresses? #O ColonOkInAddr # how many jobs can you process in the queue? #O MaxQueueRunSize=10000 # shall I avoid expanding CNAMEs (violates protocols)? #O DontExpandCnames # SMTP initial login message (old $e macro) O SmtpGreetingMessage=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b # UNIX initial From header format (old $l macro) O UnixFromLine=From $g $d # From: lines that have embedded newlines are unwrapped onto one line #O SingleLineFromHeader=False # Allow HELO SMTP command that does not include a host name #O AllowBogusHELO=False # Characters to be quoted in a full name phrase (@,;:\()[] are automatic) #O MustQuoteChars=. # delimiter (operator) characters (old $o macro) O OperatorChars=.:%@!^/[]+ # shall I avoid calling initgroups(3) because of high NIS costs? #O DontInitGroups # are group-writable :include: and .forward files (un)trustworthy? #O UnsafeGroupWrites # where do errors that occur when sending errors get sent? #O DoubleBounceAddress=postmaster # what user id do we assume for the majority of the processing? #O RunAsUser=sendmail # maximum number of recipients per SMTP envelope #O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=100 # shall we get local names from our installed interfaces? #O DontProbeInterfaces # Maximum MIME header length to protect MUAs O MaxMimeHeaderLength=256/128 ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Plist=-30 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### # this is equivalent to setting class "t" #Ft/etc/sendmail.ct Troot Tdaemon Tuucp ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?u for $u; $|; $.$b$?g (envelope-from $g)$. H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?F?From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?x?Full-Name: $x # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### REWRITING RULES ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ############################################ ### Ruleset 3 -- Name Canonicalization ### ############################################ S3 # handle null input (translate to <@> special case) R$@ $@ <@> # strip group: syntax (not inside angle brackets!) and trailing semicolon R$* $: $1 <@> mark addresses R$* < $* > $* <@> $: $1 < $2 > $3 unmark R@ $* <@> $: @ $1 unmark @host:... R$* :: $* <@> $: $1 :: $2 unmark node::addr R:include: $* <@> $: :include: $1 unmark :include:... R$* [ $* : $* ] <@> $: $1 [ $2 : $3 ] unmark IPv6 addrs R$* : $* [ $* ] $: $1 : $2 [ $3 ] <@> remark if leading colon R$* : $* <@> $: $2 strip colon if marked R$* <@> $: $1 unmark R$* ; $1 strip trailing semi R$* < $* ; > $1 < $2 > bogus bracketed semi # null input now results from list:; syntax R$@ $@ :; <@> # strip angle brackets -- note RFC733 heuristic to get innermost item R$* $: < $1 > housekeeping <> R$+ < $* > < $2 > strip excess on left R< $* > $+ < $1 > strip excess on right R<> $@ < @ > MAIL FROM:<> case R< $+ > $: $1 remove housekeeping <> # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@ $+ , $+ @ $1 : $2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@ $+ : $+ $@ $>96 < @$1 > : $2 handle # find focus for list syntax R $+ : $* ; @ $+ $@ $>96 $1 : $2 ; < @ $3 > list syntax R $+ : $* ; $@ $1 : $2; list syntax # find focus for @ syntax addresses R$+ @ $+ $: $1 < @ $2 > focus on domain R$+ < $+ @ $+ > $1 $2 < @ $3 > move gaze right R$+ < @ $+ > $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > already canonical # do some sanity checking R$* < @ $* : $* > $* $1 < @ $2 $3 > $4 nix colons in addrs # convert old-style addresses to a domain-based address R$- ! $+ $@ $>96 $2 < @ $1 .UUCP > resolve uucp names R$+ . $- ! $+ $@ $>96 $3 < @ $1 . $2 > domain uucps R$+ ! $+ $@ $>96 $2 < @ $1 .UUCP > uucp subdomains # if we have % signs, take the rightmost one R$* % $* $1 @ $2 First make them all @s. R$* @ $* @ $* $1 % $2 @ $3 Undo all but the last. R$* @ $* $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > Insert < > and finish # else we must be a local name R$* $@ $>96 $1 ################################################ ### Ruleset 96 -- bottom half of ruleset 3 ### ################################################ S96 # handle special cases for local names R$* < @ localhost > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 no domain at all R$* < @ localhost . $m > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 local domain R$* < @ localhost . UUCP > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 .UUCP domain R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $1 < @@ [ $2 ] > $3 mark [a.b.c.d] R$* < @@ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $3 self-literal R$* < @@ $+ > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 canon IP addr # if really UUCP, handle it immediately # try UUCP traffic as a local address R$* < @ $+ . UUCP > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $] . UUCP . > $3 R$* < @ $+ . . UUCP . > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 . > $3 # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 # local host aliases and pseudo-domains are always canonical R$* < @ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $j > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 R$* < @ $=M > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $* $=P > $* $: $1 < @ $2 $3 . > $4 R$* < @ $* . . > $* $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ################################################## ### Ruleset 4 -- Final Output Post-rewriting ### ################################################## S4 R$* <@> $@ handle <> and list:; # strip trailing dot off possibly canonical name R$* < @ $+ . > $* $1 < @ $2 > $3 # eliminate internal code -- should never get this far! R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $1 < @ $j > $2 # externalize local domain info R$* < $+ > $* $1 $2 $3 defocus R@ $+ : @ $+ : $+ @ $1 , @ $2 : $3 canonical R@ $* $@ @ $1 ... and exit # UUCP must always be presented in old form R$+ @ $- . UUCP $2!$1 u@h.UUCP => h!u # delete duplicate local names R$+ % $=w @ $=w $1 @ $2 u%host@host => u@host ############################################################## ### Ruleset 97 -- recanonicalize and call ruleset zero ### ### (used for recursive calls) ### ############################################################## S97 R$* $: $>3 $1 R$* $@ $>0 $1 ###################################### ### Ruleset 0 -- Parse Address ### ###################################### S0 R$* $: $>Parse0 $1 initial parsing R<@> $#local $: <@> special case error msgs R$* $: $>98 $1 handle local hacks R$* $: $>Parse1 $1 final parsing # # Parse0 -- do initial syntax checking and eliminate local addresses. # This should either return with the (possibly modified) input # or return with a #error mailer. It should not return with a # #mailer other than the #error mailer. # SParse0 R<@> $@ <@> special case error msgs R$* : $* ; <@> $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "List:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses" #R@ <@ $* > < @ $1 > catch "@@host" bogosity R<@ $+> $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "User address required" R$* $: <> $1 R<> $* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 R<> $* <$* : $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "Colon illegal in host name part" R<> $* $1 R$* < @ . $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.2 $: "Invalid host name" R$* < @ $* .. $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.2 $: "Invalid host name" # now delete the local info -- note $=O to find characters that cause forwarding R$* < @ > $* $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $1 user@ => user R< @ $=w . > : $* $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $2 @here:... -> ... R$- < @ $=w . > $: $(dequote $1 $) < @ $2 . > dequote "foo"@here R< @ $+ > $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "User address required" R$* $=O $* < @ $=w . > $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $1 $2 $3 ...@here -> ... R$- $: $(dequote $1 $) < @ *LOCAL* > dequote "foo" R< @ *LOCAL* > $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "User address required" R$* $=O $* < @ *LOCAL* > $@ $>Parse0 $>3 $1 $2 $3 ...@*LOCAL* -> ... R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $: $1 # # Parse1 -- the bottom half of ruleset 0. # SParse1 # handle numeric address spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $>98 $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 numeric internet spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $#esmtp $@ [$2] $: $1 < @ [$2] > $3 still numeric: send # handle virtual users R$+ < @ $=w . > $: < $(virtuser $1 @ $2 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 < @ $2 . > R<@> $+ + $* < @ $* . > $: < $(virtuser $1 + * @ $3 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 + $2 < @ $3 . > R<@> $+ + $* < @ $* . > $: < $(virtuser $1 @ $3 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 + $2 < @ $3 . > R<@> $+ < @ $+ . > $: < $(virtuser @ $2 $@ $1 $: @ $) > $1 < @ $2 . > R<@> $+ $: $1 R< error : $- $+ > $* $#error $@ $(dequote $1 $) $: $2 R< $+ > $+ < @ $+ > $: $>97 $1 # short circuit local delivery so forwarded email works R$=L < @ $=w . > $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ < @ $=w . > $#local $: $1 regular local name # not local -- try mailer table lookup R$* <@ $+ > $* $: < $2 > $1 < @ $2 > $3 extract host name R< $+ . > $* $: < $1 > $2 strip trailing dot R< $+ > $* $: < $(mailertable $1 $) > $2 lookup R< $~[ : $* > $* $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 check -- resolved? R< $+ > $* $: $>90 <$1> $2 try domain # resolve remotely connected UUCP links (if any) # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts # pass names that still have a host to a smarthost (if defined) R$* < @ $* > $* $: $>95 < $S > $1 < @ $2 > $3 glue on smarthost name # deal with other remote names R$* < @$* > $* $#esmtp $@ $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 user@host.domain # handle locally delivered names R$=L $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ $#local $: $1 regular local names ########################################################################### ### Ruleset 5 -- special rewriting after aliases have been expanded ### ########################################################################### S5 # deal with plussed users so aliases work nicely R$+ + * $#local $@ $&h $: $1 R$+ + $* $#local $@ + $2 $: $1 + * # prepend an empty "forward host" on the front R$+ $: <> $1 # see if we have a relay or a hub R< > $+ $: < $H > $1 try hub R< > $+ $: < $R > $1 try relay R< > $+ $: < > < $1 $&h > nope, restore +detail R< > < $+ + $* > $* < > < $1 > + $2 $3 find the user part R< > < $+ > + $* $#local $@ $2 $: @ $1 strip the extra + R< > < $+ > $@ $1 no +detail R$+ $: $1 <> $&h add +detail back in R$+ <> + $* $: $1 + $2 check whether +detail R$+ <> $* $: $1 else discard R< local : $* > $* $: $>95 < local : $1 > $2 no host extension R< error : $* > $* $: $>95 < error : $1 > $2 no host extension R< $- : $+ > $+ $: $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 < @ $2 > R< $+ > $+ $@ $>95 < $1 > $2 < @ $1 > ################################################################### ### Ruleset 90 -- try domain part of mailertable entry ### ################################################################### S90 R$* <$- . $+ > $* $: $1$2 < $(mailertable .$3 $@ $1$2 $@ $2 $) > $4 R$* <$~[ : $* > $* $>95 < $2 : $3 > $4 check -- resolved? R$* < . $+ > $* $@ $>90 $1 . <$2> $3 no -- strip & try again R$* < $* > $* $: < $(mailertable . $@ $1$2 $) > $3 try "." R< $~[ : $* > $* $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 "." found? R< $* > $* $@ $2 no mailertable match ################################################################### ### Ruleset 95 -- canonify mailer:[user@]host syntax to triple ### ################################################################### S95 R< > $* $@ $1 strip off null relay R< error : $- $+ > $* $#error $@ $(dequote $1 $) $: $2 R< local : $* > $* $>CanonLocal < $1 > $2 R< $- : $+ @ $+ > $*<$*>$* $# $1 $@ $3 $: $2<@$3> use literal user R< $- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 try qualified mailer R< $=w > $* $@ $2 delete local host R< $+ > $* $#relay $@ $1 $: $2 use unqualified mailer ################################################################### ### Ruleset CanonLocal -- canonify local: syntax ### ################################################################### SCanonLocal # strip local host from routed addresses R< $* > < @ $+ > : $+ $@ $>97 $3 R< $* > $+ $=O $+ < @ $+ > $@ $>97 $2 $3 $4 # strip trailing dot from any host name that may appear R< $* > $* < @ $* . > $: < $1 > $2 < @ $3 > # handle local: syntax -- use old user, either with or without host R< > $* < @ $* > $* $#local $@ $1@$2 $: $1 R< > $+ $#local $@ $1 $: $1 # handle local:user@host syntax -- ignore host part R< $+ @ $+ > $* < @ $* > $: < $1 > $3 < @ $4 > # handle local:user syntax R< $+ > $* <@ $* > $* $#local $@ $2@$3 $: $1 R< $+ > $* $#local $@ $2 $: $1 ################################################################### ### Ruleset 93 -- convert header names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S93 # special case the users that should be exposed R$=E < @ *LOCAL* > $@ $1 < @ $j . > leave exposed R$=E < @ $=M . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > R$=E < @ $=w . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > # handle domain-specific masquerading R$* < @ $=M . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 convert masqueraded doms R$* < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . @ $M > $2 R$* < @ $+ @ > $* $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 $M is null R$* < @ $+ @ $+ > $* $: $1 < @ $3 . > $4 $M is not null ################################################################### ### Ruleset 94 -- convert envelope names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S94 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 ################################################################### ### Ruleset 98 -- local part of ruleset zero (can be null) ### ################################################################### S98 # addresses sent to foo@host.REDIRECT will give a 551 error code R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT . > < ${opMode} > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > $: $1 < @ $2 . REDIRECT. > R$* < @ $+ .REDIRECT. > < $- > $# error $@ 5.1.1 $: "551 User has moved; please try " <$1@$2> ###################################################################### ### LookUpDomain -- search for domain in access database ### ### Parameters: ### <$1> -- key (domain name) ### <$2> -- default (what to return if not found in db) ### <$3> -- passthru (additional data passed unchanged through) ###################################################################### SLookUpDomain R<$+> <$+> <$*> $: < $(access $1 $: ? $) > <$1> <$2> <$3> R <$+.$+> <$+> <$*> $@ $>LookUpDomain <$2> <$3> <$4> R <$+> <$+> <$*> $@ <$2> <$3> R<$*> <$+> <$+> <$*> $@ <$1> <$4> ###################################################################### ### LookUpAddress -- search for host address in access database ### ### Parameters: ### <$1> -- key (dot quadded host address) ### <$2> -- default (what to return if not found in db) ### <$3> -- passthru (additional data passed through) ###################################################################### SLookUpAddress R<$+> <$+> <$*> $: < $(access $1 $: ? $) > <$1> <$2> <$3> R <$+.$-> <$+> <$*> $@ $>LookUpAddress <$1> <$3> <$4> R <$+> <$+> <$*> $@ <$2> <$3> R<$*> <$+> <$+> <$*> $@ <$1> <$4> ###################################################################### ### CanonAddr -- Convert an address into a standard form for ### relay checking. Route address syntax is ### crudely converted into a %-hack address. ### ### Parameters: ### $1 -- full recipient address ### ### Returns: ### parsed address, not in source route form ###################################################################### SCanonAddr R$* $: $>Parse0 $>3 $1 make domain canonical R< @ $+ > : $* @ $* < @ $1 > : $2 % $3 change @ to % in src route R$* < @ $+ > : $* : $* $3 $1 < @ $2 > : $4 change to % hack. R$* < @ $+ > : $* $3 $1 < @ $2 > ###################################################################### ### ParseRecipient -- Strip off hosts in $=R as well as possibly ### $* $=m or the access database. ### Check user portion for host separators. ### ### Parameters: ### $1 -- full recipient address ### ### Returns: ### parsed, non-local-relaying address ###################################################################### SParseRecipient R$* $: $>CanonAddr $1 R $* < @ $* . > $1 < @ $2 > strip trailing dots R $- < @ $* > $: $(dequote $1 $) < @ $2 > dequote local part # if no $=O character, no host in the user portion, we are done R $* $=O $* < @ $* > $: $1 $2 $3 < @ $4> R $* $@ $1 R $* < @ $+ > $: < : $(mxserved $2 $) : > < $1 < @$2 > > R < : $* : > $* $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "450 Can not check MX records for recipient host " $1 R < $* : $=w. : $* > < $+ > $: $4 R < : $* : > < $+ > $: $2 R $* < @ $* $=R > $: $1 < @ $2 $3 > R $* < @ $+ > $: $>LookUpDomain <$2> <$1 < @ $2 >> R<$+> <$+> $: <$1> $2 R $* < @ $* > $@ $>ParseRecipient $1 R<$-> $* $@ $2 ###################################################################### ### check_relay -- check hostname/address on SMTP startup ###################################################################### SLocal_check_relay Scheck_relay R$* $: $1 $| $>"Local_check_relay" $1 R$* $| $* $| $#$* $#$3 R$* $| $* $| $* $@ $>"Basic_check_relay" $1 $| $2 SBasic_check_relay # check for deferred delivery mode R$* $: < ${deliveryMode} > $1 R< d > $* $@ deferred R< $* > $* $: $2 R$+ $| $+ $: $>LookUpDomain < $1 > < $2 > R < $+ > $: $>LookUpAddress < $1 > < $1 > R < $+ > $: $1 R < $* > $@ OK R < $* > $@ RELAY R $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "550 Access denied" R $* $#discard $: discard R<$+> $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: $1 ###################################################################### ### check_mail -- check SMTP `MAIL FROM:' command argument ###################################################################### SLocal_check_mail Scheck_mail R$* $: $1 $| $>"Local_check_mail" $1 R$* $| $#$* $#$2 R$* $| $* $@ $>"Basic_check_mail" $1 SBasic_check_mail # check for deferred delivery mode R$* $: < ${deliveryMode} > $1 R< d > $* $@ deferred R< $* > $* $: $2 R<> $@ R$* $: $>CanonAddr $1 R $* < @ $+ . > $1 < @ $2 > strip trailing dots # handle non-DNS hostnames (*.bitnet, *.decnet, *.uucp, etc) R $* < $* $=P > $* $: $1 < @ $2 $3 > $4 R $* < @ $+ > $* $: $) > $1 < @ $2 > $3 R> $* < @ $+ > $* $: <$2> $3 < @ $4 > $5 # handle case of @localhost on address R<$+> $* < @localhost > $: < ? $&{client_name} > <$1> $2 < @localhost > R<$+> $* < @localhost.$m > $: < ? $&{client_name} > <$1> $2 < @localhost.$m > R<$+> $* < @localhost.UUCP > $: < ? $&{client_name} > <$1> $2 < @localhost.UUCP > R <$+> $* <$2> $3 R <$+> $* $#error $@ 5.5.4 $: "553 Real domain name required" R <$+> $* $: <$1> $2 # lookup localpart (user@) R<$+> $* < @ $+ > $* $: <$1> $2 < @ $3 > $4 # no match, try full address (user@domain rest) R <$+> $* < @ $* > $* $: <$1> $2 < @ $3 > $4 # no match, try address (user@domain) R <$+> $+ < @ $+ > $* $: <$1> $2 < @ $3 > $4 # no match, try (sub)domain (domain) R <$+> $* < @ $+ > $* $: $>LookUpDomain <$3> <$1> <> # check unqualified user in access database R $* $: $1 # retransform for further use R <$+> $* $: <$1> $3 # handle case of no @domain on address R $* $: < ? $&{client_name} > $1 R $* $@ ...local unqualed ok R $* $#error $@ 5.5.4 $: "553 Domain name required" ...remote is not # check results R $* $@ R $* $@ R $* $#error $@ 4.1.8 $: "451 Sender domain must resolve" R $* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: "501 Sender domain must exist" R $* $@ R $* $#discard $: discard R $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "550 Access denied" R<$+> $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: $1 error from access db ###################################################################### ### check_rcpt -- check SMTP `RCPT TO:' command argument ###################################################################### SLocal_check_rcpt Scheck_rcpt R$* $: $1 $| $>"Local_check_rcpt" $1 R$* $| $#$* $#$2 R$* $| $* $@ $>"Basic_check_rcpt" $1 SBasic_check_rcpt # check for deferred delivery mode R$* $: < ${deliveryMode} > $1 R< d > $* $@ deferred R< $* > $* $: $2 R$* $: $>ParseRecipient $1 strip relayable hosts # blacklist local users or any host from receiving mail R$* $: $1 R $+ < @ $=w > $: <> <$1 < @ $2 >> R $+ < @ $* > $: <> <$1 < @ $2 >> R $+ $: <> <$1> R<> $* $: <$(access $1 $: $)> $2 R<> $* $: <$(access $1 $: $)> $2 R $* $: <$(access $1 $: $)> $2 R<> $* $: <$(access $1 $: $)> $2 R $* $: <$(access $1 $: $)> $2 R<> <$*> $: $1 R <$*> $: $1 R <$*> $: $1 R $* $#error $@ 5.2.1 $: "550 Mailbox disabled for this recipient" R<$+> $* $#error $@ 5.2.1 $: $1 error from access db # anything terminating locally is ok R$+ < @ $=w > $@ OK R$+ < @ $* $=R > $@ OK R$+ < @ $* > $: $>LookUpDomain <$2> <$1 < @ $2 >> R $* $@ RELAY R<$*> <$*> $: $2 # allow relaying for hosts which we MX serve R$+ < @ $* > $: < : $(mxserved $2 $) : > $1 < @ $2 > R< : $* : > $* $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "450 Can not check MX records for recipient host " $1 R<$* : $=w . : $*> $* $@ OK R< : $* : > $* $: $2 # check for local user (i.e. unqualified address) R$* $: $1 R $* < @ $+ > $: $1 < @ $2 > # local user is ok R $+ $@ OK R<$+> $* $: $2 # anything originating locally is ok R$* $: $&{client_name} # check if bracketed IP address (forward lookup != reverse lookup) R [$+] $: [$1] # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R $* $~P $: $[ $1 $2 $] R<$-> $* $: $2 R$* . $1 strip trailing dots R$@ $@ OK R$=w $@ OK R$* $=R $@ OK R$* $: $>LookUpDomain <$1> <$1> R $* $@ RELAY R<$*> <$*> $: $2 # check IP address R$* $: $&{client_addr} R$@ $@ OK originated locally R0 $@ OK originated locally R$=R $* $@ OK relayable IP address R$* $: $>LookUpAddress <$1> <$1> R $* $@ RELAY relayable IP address R<$*> <$*> $: $2 R$* $: [ $1 ] put brackets around it... R$=w $@ OK ... and see if it is local # anything else is bogus R$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "550 Relaying denied" # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### MAILER DEFINITIONS ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ################################################## ### Local and Program Mailer specification ### ################################################## ##### @(#)local.m4 8.30 (Berkeley) 6/30/1998 ##### Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSXfmnz9P, S=10/30, R=20/40, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=mail.local -l Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/, T=X-Unix, A=sh -c $u # # Envelope sender rewriting # S10 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R@ <@ $*> $n temporarily bypass Sun bogosity R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # Envelope recipient rewriting # S20 R$+ < @ $* > $: $1 strip host part # # Header sender rewriting # S30 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R@ <@ $*> $n temporarily bypass Sun bogosity R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # Header recipient rewriting # S40 R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed # # Common code to add local domain name (only if always-add-domain) # S50 ##################################### ### SMTP Mailer specification ### ##################################### ##### @(#)smtp.m4 8.38 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998 ##### Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h # # envelope sender rewriting # S11 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$* :; <@> $@ list:; special case R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # envelope recipient rewriting -- # also header recipient if not masquerading recipients # S21 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$+ $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names # # header sender and masquerading header recipient rewriting # S31 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R:; <@> $@ list:; special case # do special header rewriting R$* <@> $* $@ $1 <@> $2 pass null host through R< @ $* > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 pass route-addr through R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # convert pseudo-domain addresses to real domain addresses # S51 # pass s through R< @ $+ > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 resolve # output fake domains as user%fake@relay # do UUCP heuristics; note that these are shared with UUCP mailers R$+ < @ $+ .UUCP. > $: < $2 ! > $1 convert to UUCP form R$+ < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 not UUCP form # leave these in .UUCP form to avoid further tampering R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > R< $&h ! > $-.$+ ! $+ $@ $3 < @ $1.$2 > R< $&h ! > $+ $@ $1 < @ $&h .UUCP. > R< $+ ! > $+ $: $1 ! $2 < @ $Y > use UUCP_RELAY R$+ < @ $+ : $+ > $@ $1 < @ $3 > strip mailer: part R$+ < @ > $: $1 < @ *LOCAL* > if no UUCP_RELAY # # common sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S61 R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already fully qualified R$+ $@ $1 < @ *LOCAL* > add local qualification # # relay mailer header masquerading recipient rewriting # S71 R$+ $: $>61 $1 R$+ $: $>93 $1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:36:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub1.ncal.verio.com (mailhub1.ncal.verio.com [204.247.247.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301E715012 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@ncal.verio.com) Received: from shell1.ncal.verio.com (ericdano@shell1.ncal.verio.com [204.247.248.254]) by mailhub1.ncal.verio.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05996 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ericdano@localhost) by shell1.ncal.verio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01016 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:36:42 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1. ncal.verio.com: ericdano owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:36:42 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Dannewitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: natd problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for ALL those who responded. Looks like the major problem there was the typo I had with the network cards. I also reconfigured the firewall to be closed, and everything is working fine so far. Now, to recompile the kernel to support SMP and well see how much better this dual 166 Pentium router will perform over Linux........... Thanks again all! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:47:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fh106.infi.net (fh106.infi.net [209.97.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023D414FFC for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scotrn@pilot.infi.net) Received: from pilot.infi.net (pm4-1-443.orf.infi.net [209.97.9.189]) by fh106.infi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14500 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386F8D9F.8BCF808D@pilot.infi.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:40:47 -0500 From: Scot Reply-To: scotrn@pilot.infi.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: USR 3CP5610 56K PCI modem (ppp) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi; Posted to Newsgroup comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc but only got one response. I was hopping to get better news. Is there anything I can do to get this working ? Anything from here useful? http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools Thanks Scot ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I could be wrong, but the last time I checked PCI modems aren't supporte under FreeBSD... In article <386C4241.BFCC0AE6@pilot.infi.net> you write: >Hi; > > I am new to BSD so please forgive me if I have overlooked something >obvious. > > Anyone got this working ? > I think I have the kernel seeing it but I cannot talk to it using ppp > or cu -l /dev/cuaa[0-3] > > I was able to get my 28.8 external working but the strange thing is it > is connected to COM1 but to talk to It I have to use cuaa1. Does that >make > any sense ? To make sure I took out all card - the video and still had >to use > cuaa1. > >Any help on the 56K modem would be greatly appreciated! >Here is my dmesg and relevant kernel config > >---------------------- dmesg ----------------------------------------- > >Copyright (c) 1992-1999 Free BSD Inc. >Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights >reserved. >FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Dec 29 20:10:48 EST 1999 > root@web.engrs.infi.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WEB >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >Timecounter "TSC" frequency 132954964 Hz >CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.95-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 > Features=0x1bf >real memory = 83886080 (81920K bytes) >avail memory = 78151680 (76320K bytes) >Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0325000. >Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: >chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 >chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 >ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 >bt0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on >pci0.14.0 >bt0: BT-946C FW Rev. 4.25J Narrow SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 100 CCBs >vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on >pci0.15.0 >Probing for PnP devices: >Probing for devices on the ISA bus: >sc0 on isa >sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> >atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard >atkbd0 irq 1 on isa >psm0 irq 12 on isa >psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 >sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 >sio0 not found at 0x3f8 >sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa >sio1: type 16550A >sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x10 >sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa >sio2: type 16550A >sio3: configured irq 9 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 >sio3 not found at 0x2e8 >fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa >fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in >wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa >wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): >wd0: 19544MB (40026672 sectors), 39709 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa >wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, >dma, iordy >acd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 256KB cache >acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA >acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels >acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked >wt0 not found at 0x300 >mcd0 not found at 0x300 >matcdc0 not found at 0x230 >scd0 not found at 0x230 >ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa >ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode >lpt0: on ppbus 0 >lpt0: Interrupt-driven port >ppi0: on ppbus 0 >plip0: on ppbus 0 >1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 >ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa >ep0: aui/utp[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:6b:55:80 >adv0 not found at 0x330 >bt: unit number (1) too high >bt1 not found at 0x334 >aha0 not found at 0x134 >vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa >npx0 on motherboard >npx0: INT 16 interface >Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug >Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle >sa0 at bt0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 >sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 >device >sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 15) >changing root device to wd0s2a > > > >----------------------- KERNEL >-------------------------------------------- ># Serial (COM) ports >device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 >device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 >device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 >device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 > ># Parallel port >device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 >controller ppbus0 # Parallel port bus (required) >device lpt0 at ppbus? # Printer >device plip0 at ppbus? # TCP/IP over parallel >device ppi0 at ppbus? # Parallel port interface device >#controller vpo0 at ppbus? # Requires scbus and da0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 14:48:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from thunk.crazylogic.net (thunk.crazylogic.net [199.45.111.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F20A14DDA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:48:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@crazylogic.net) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by thunk.crazylogic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA59475; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:39:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@crazylogic.net) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:39:53 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Gostick To: Doug Young Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail / Sendmail Stuff In-Reply-To: <007101bf5571$99e832a0$827e03cb@ORACLE> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'd appreciate a "simple english" explanation of the minimum requirements > for setting up of a local mailserver. Not much of a problem here... sendmail is installed by default (for smtp). If you would like the mailserver to do pop3 as well you would need a pop3 server (not intalled by default). I use qpopper. Its available in the ports collection and is pretty easy to setup. > "mail user agent" installed ... running "elm", "pine", "mutt" just return > "command not found". You must install these using the ports system ... look in the FreeBSD Handbook on how to use the ports system if you don't already know. Its well worth learning... > I've attached my "sendmail.cf" file in case its of any help For simple configuration this doesn't need to be altered. Although if you would like the mailserver to relay mail for computers on the LAN then you would have to add the IP addresses to the /etc/mail/access file. I think that's about all there is to it. Matt. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 15:15: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F76A14D24 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:14:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 124sYB-000Lbx-00; Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:28:31 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.092 #1) id 124sYB-00017r-00; Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:28:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:28:31 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Pekka Savola , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run Message-ID: <20000102212831.A4183@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan Thompson wrote: > Did you kill -HUP cron? If you didn't do this (or reboot the system), > your job won't run. According to the manpage, you don't need to: | Additionally, cron checks each minute to see if its spool directory's | modtime (or the modtime on /etc/crontab) has changed, and if it has, cron | will then examine the modtime on all crontabs and reload those which have | changed. Thus cron need not be restarted whenever a crontab file is mod- | ified. Note that the crontab(1) command updates the modtime of the spool | directory whenever it changes a crontab. The manpage may be wrong, of course. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 15:38: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2144014EBE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:38:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1197.bossig.com [208.26.241.197]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:45:17 -0800 Message-ID: <386FE169.F39CCFF9@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 15:38:17 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: some performance issues References: <386C023E.680FC31@inna.net> <386C0676.F39EC477@3-cities.com> <386C2354.ABD1ED54@nwlink.com> <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <386D9271.C3B7DD95@3-cities.com> <386F2582.E5910672@nwlink.com> <386F9EA4.66B1B919@3-cities.com> <386FCECB.894E4548@nwlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year (why am I sitting at this computer 8-) )! > > > > > > > > Well, if it makes you feel better, there are two of us doing the same > > > > thing. I hit my first 2000 problem. I wanted to do an update from > > > > today's Stock Market with Quicken 99 and I suddenly had 3 accounts > > > > that were each worth $10-40M US. Something overflowed. The smallest > > > > account was the one that jumped to $40M. The system was quickly > > > > restored from the last backup and now I'm installing Quicken 2000. > > > > People believe stuff like this. All I could do was chuckle. It is also > > > > the first time I ran Quicken since I upgraded to Windows 2000 gold. > > > > > > I just had my first y2k problem too. After eating too much celebratory > > > ben&jerry's ice cream last night, I proceeded to delete the contents of > > > my /usr/bin directory. I tried a number of things like just going in to > > > /usr/src/usr.bin and doing 'make'. I didn't have 'make' anymore. > > > Luckily, I had an unused partition on my hard drive. I decided to > > > install a 4.0 snapshot from a cdrom onto it. From there, I mounted my > > > -STABLE /usr and copied the contents from the 4.0 /usr/bin into the > > > -STABLE. Then I rebooted the -STABLE, and tried to remake the /usr/bin > > > directory again using the -STABLE sources. I got an error message that > > > said something like "This isn't NetBSD. You lose!" I thought that was > > > cruel. > > > > Think of it as shock therapy. You were trying something that was > > really a bad idea and they wanted to wake you up :). > > > > Why is it a bad idea to remake that directory? It seemed like a much > quicker way to fix the system than to make world all over again. We are out of synce on when to deal with the directory. The 4.0 bin was the bad idea. Think of all of the other directories in your path and you have to make each one of them too. /usr/bin isn't the only place that is important. If you world was a recent stable cvsup, then all you might have been able to get away with doing an installworld. Otherwise what you did was probably enough. Kent > Joseph > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html > > -- > Best Regards, Joseph > > You will do foolish things, > but do them with enthusiasm. Colette. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 15:41:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F5C14D2D for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07523; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:41:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200001022341.SAA07523@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: Peter Losher Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "File too large" in Amanda restore? In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Losher of "Sun, 02 Jan 2000 00:56:13 PST." Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:41:07 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We have a situation here where we have our Amanda backup system >running on a BSDI v3.1 box (legacy system). We tried running a restore of >a partition off of a recently departed RAID system onto another RAID >attached to a FreeBSD v3.4-STABLE box over NFS. We keep running into a >problem where the restore process keeps stalling mid-way thru the process >with the error: > >-=- >amrestore: short write: File too large >-=- > >The NFS partition where it was restoring to had enough space (was at 28% >of a 15GB partition, and the file being restored was just under 4.3GB in >size). Could this be a NFS error, or a FreeBSD error? This is probably because you're using NFSv2 which has a 2 GB filesize limit. NFSv3 isn't limited to 2 GB so if you can use v3 that will help. If not, you need to use a different method to move the data over the net. >(I searched thru >the archives before posting, no one else seems to have had this problem, so >I am not inclined to think it's FreeBSD right now) Rather than assume the problem is FreeBSD I would assume the problem is that you're looking for the answer to an amanda problem on a FreeBSD list. Most of the Amanda people are on amanda-users@amanda.org. Believe me, people have had this problem... -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 15:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BDE14D2D for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA37380; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:18:29 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:18:29 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Pekka Savola Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run Message-ID: <20000103101829.F1528@freebie.lemis.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000102140829.008136d0@netcore.home> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 2 January 2000 at 14:08:29 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: >>> 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate >>> ----- >>> >>> Will not be run. Logrotate does some really heavy httpd log checking and >>> resolving - Like 1-2 hours job on a P3/500. Replacing >>> /usr/local/sbin/logrotate with some neat little script seems to be run > nicely. >>> Also, 'touch /etc/crontab' doesn't help any. Running the script manually >>> works fine. >>> >>> Is there something I'm missing here? >> >> Well, I'd guess you're looking in the wrong place. This has nothing >> to do with cron. > > Sorry, I don't quite understand this. If this has nothing to do with > crontab, *what* does it have to do with then? You should read to the end of the message before asking questions like this. To quote: >> Any ideas? > > Look at the script. > I run /usr/local/sbin/logrotate from the shell: > > bash-2.03# /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [works fine] > > I add it to /etc/crontab: > > 1 0 * * 1 root /usr/local/sbin/logrotate > [Won't be run] > > I fail to see what *could* be wrong with the script because it works > on an interactive shell session just fine. If you don't look, you'll always fail. If you had stated this in your original message, you would have got a better reply. Somebody else suggested checking your PATH; I'd agree that this now seems most probable. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 16: 5:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasknow.com (h139-142-245-96.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545B614C8C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA35018; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:05:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:05:10 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Pekka Savola , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run In-Reply-To: <20000102212831.A4183@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Ryan Thompson wrote: > > > Did you kill -HUP cron? If you didn't do this (or reboot the system), > > your job won't run. > > According to the manpage, you don't need to: > > | Additionally, cron checks each minute to see if its spool directory's > | modtime (or the modtime on /etc/crontab) has changed, and if it has, cron > | will then examine the modtime on all crontabs and reload those which have > | changed. Thus cron need not be restarted whenever a crontab file is mod- > | ified. Note that the crontab(1) command updates the modtime of the spool > | directory whenever it changes a crontab. Hmm... I stand corrected :-) I haven't looked at than man page for quite some time. Anyway, kill -HUP can't hurt, and might actually kick a few things into shape if modtimes get set incorrectly :-) > The manpage may be wrong, of course. > > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > -- Ryan Thompson 50% Owner, Technical and Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 16: 8:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spdmgaad.compuserve.com (ds-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.206.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAE1151EF for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:08:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ncptiddische@compuserve.com) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id TAA22881; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:08:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:08:26 -0500 From: Nils Holland Subject: Re: Routing / IP-Forwarding To: Kent Stewart Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <200001021908_MC2-9312-3F1F@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nachricht geschrieben von Kent Stewart >I have a ppp.conf that looks like the ppp.conf.sample for the pmdemand. My ISP returns an IP address and I have to use it. Everything else I do such as the access from Windows 2000 points to the FreeBSD system as the gateway. Do you have 'gateway_enable=3D"YES"' in your etc/rc.conf?. I also specify tun0 as a network interface. network_interfaces=3D"fxp0 lo0 tun0" ifconfig_tun0=3D My ISP doesn't use pap/chap and so my login goes on to the set login command. That part works, so you aren't defining something else.< Well, I double checked my configuration, tried it and now it works! Thanks for your help anyway! Nils To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 16:11:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD4314EBE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA37587; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:41:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:41:23 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: some performance issues Message-ID: <20000103104123.H1528@freebie.lemis.com> References: <386C3173.1D695393@3-cities.com> <386C543D.6E59C9DF@nwlink.com> <19991231104441.C2609@emu.sourcee.com> <386CE8AB.29A140B5@nwlink.com> <386CF9DC.B71A9887@3-cities.com> <386D3D3C.C92D02A3@nwlink.com> <386D5C88.B8257D45@3-cities.com> <386D8ABD.C2894A91@nwlink.com> <20000101160159.O1528@freebie.lemis.com> <386FD085.93BFA305@nwlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <386FD085.93BFA305@nwlink.com> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 2 January 2000 at 14:26:13 -0800, R Joseph Wright wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> iozone is not really a storage device testing program. Use rawio (in >> the Ports Collection) for that: it bypasses the cache. Read carefully >> the warnings which tell you that you should not use the write tests on >> a file system which contains data you want to keep. >> >>> Kent, I tried that, only for me it worked doing "iozone 160". Here is >>> my results: >>> >>> 11483869 bytes/second for reading >>> 15155142 bytes/second for writing >> >> This is sequential access. You'll never get that in practice. >> >>> Is that really slow? It's nowhere near 33MB/second. >> >> 33 MB/s is the transfer rate from disk buffer to CPU. The transfer >> rate off the platter is slower, and your speeds there look pretty >> good. But remember that they're the ideal case. >> >>> I have a Maxtor 7000rpm with UDMA66 capabilities, although I'll have >>> to wait for -STABLE to support that, and a new motherboard as well. >>> I may recompile with the old flags just to see the difference. >> >> I'd be interested to see the difference, but I don't think it'll be >> very much. Try both with rawio, and look at the random access >> results, which are the only ones that count in practice. >> >> Greg > > I tried rawio, and got the following using flags 0xb0ffb0ff: > > Random Read Random Write > ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec > anon 25352.3 1560 16548.4 1024 > > With flags set at 0x80ff80ff, I got: > > K/sec /sec > 12992.0 806 The results don't look very likely. Did you run them against the block device? That doesn't do anything useful. I've just tried this on an LVD drive and got: Random read Sequential read Random write Sequential write ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec da1 1650.5 103 1603.6 98 That does, in fact, look rather bad, but it's more typical for random access. > After that, it core dumped. At what point? Where's the core? > BTW, your book The Complete FreeBSD has been tremendously helpful! Thank > you 8) You're welcome. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 16:32:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ib.rc.vix.com (ib.rc.vix.com [204.152.187.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8FD14CAE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Received: from bb.rc.vix.com (bb.rc.vix.com [204.152.187.11]) by ib.rc.vix.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) via ESMTP id QAA13238; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:32:45 -0800 (PST) env-from (Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Received: from localhost (plosher@localhost) by bb.rc.vix.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) via ESMTP id QAA25498; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:32:44 -0800 (PST) env-from (Peter.Losher@iengines.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Losher To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "File too large" in Amanda restore? In-Reply-To: <200001022341.SAA07523@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > This is probably because you're using NFSv2 which has a 2 GB filesize > limit. NFSv3 isn't limited to 2 GB so if you can use v3 that will help. > If not, you need to use a different method to move the data over the net. Hmm, is there a way to check which version of NFS a server is using? (and if the system is running NFSv2, how to force it to use v3? As I said before, it's 3.4-STABLE > Rather than assume the problem is FreeBSD I would assume the problem is > that you're looking for the answer to an amanda problem on a FreeBSD > list. Most of the Amanda people are on amanda-users@amanda.org. > Believe me, people have had this problem... I would agree, however we also had a problem with scp'ing a 3GB file over to this same box, the .tar file always came up corrupt when de-tarred (we think this is a scp problem though)... SO I was, perhaps in error, linking the two... Best Wishes - Peter | Peter Losher | SysAdmin - iEngines, Inc. | Peter.Losher@iengines.com | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 2 16:34:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8823B14EEE for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07780; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:33:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200001030033.TAA07780@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Ben Smithurst , Pekka Savola , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huge crontab jobs are not run In-Reply-To: Message from Ryan Thompson of "Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:05:10 CST." Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:33:54 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> > Did you kill -HUP cron? If you didn't do this (or reboot the system), >> > your job won't run. >> >> According to the manpage, you don't need to: >> >> | Additionally, cron checks each minute to see if its spool directory's >> | modtime (or the modtime on /etc/crontab) has changed, and if it has, cron >> | will then examine the modtime on all crontabs and reload those which have >> | changed. Thus cron need not be restarted whenever a crontab file is mod- >> | ified. Note that the crontab(1) command updates the modtime of the spool >> | directory whenever it changes a crontab. > >Hmm... I stand corrected :-) I haven't looked at than man page for quite >some time. Anyway, kill -HUP can't hurt, and might actually kick a few >things into shape if modtimes get set incorrectly :-) > >