From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 6 21:12:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED031065670 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327CA8FC17 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oHPz1b0010vp7WLA9Lzk8g; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:59:44 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oLzi1b00D1f6R9u8RLziJc; Wed, 06 May 2009 20:59:44 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 06 May 2009 13:59:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:59:41 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.x X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: basic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:12:53 -0000 On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote: > > On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > >> LMAO! Touch=E9! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) > > > I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is =20 > installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in > the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. I suspect the OP was trolling. The giveaway is his suggestion that following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller". This reflects a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about. Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal. But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal. FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD Unix for the most common hardware. New users who are looking for a BSD Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of doing things and not vice versa. The current userbase is large enough to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms. As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already been various ports of Basic over the years. None of them seem to have had much success. BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does. =20