From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 17:26:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC468106566B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0738FC18 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LKF99281; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 12:26:01 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19313.39592.586676.508318@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:26:00 -0500 To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <19313.36357.907425.293700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4B718F2A.8060801@ibctech.ca> <4B71984F.1050609@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Robert Huff , Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: documentation about enabling IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:26:02 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > >> Can someone affirmatively verify that this part (30.6.1) of the > >> Handbook is correct? Particularly the last sentence. > >> Quote: > >> > >> IPFW is included in the basic FreeBSD install as a > >> separate run time loadable module. The system will > >> dynamically load the kernel module when the rc.conf > >> statement firewall_enable="YES" is used. There is no need > >> to compile IPFW into the FreeBSD kernel unless NAT > >> functionality is desired. > > > > Yes, it is correct. > > > > You can also load during runtime: > > > > # kldload ipfw.ko > > That' not really the issue with what the quoted paragraph says. > Enabling ipfw functionality by loading a kernel module is not under > contention. The question is about ipfw+NAT. That paragraph says you > have to compile ipfw into the kernel to use ipfw+NAT, however on a > RELENG_8 system (at least) there's a loadable ipfw_nat.ko module. > Which very much implies you *don't* need to compile ipfw into the > kernel for ipfw+NAT nowadays. Exactly! Robert Huff