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Date:      Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:00:53 -0600
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Tor Egge <tegge@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/ufs/ufs ufs_lookup.c
Message-ID:  <440ED585.4090706@centtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060308104000.GC52377@ip.net.ua>
References:  <200603080214.k282EdBH054091@repoman.freebsd.org>	<20060308070632.GA52377@ip.net.ua>	<20060308081625.GA55281@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060308104000.GC52377@ip.net.ua>

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Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 03:16:25AM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 09:06:32AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:14:39AM +0000, Tor Egge wrote:
>>>       
>>>> tegge       2006-03-08 02:14:39 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   FreeBSD src repository
>>>>
>>>>   Modified files:
>>>>     sys/ufs/ufs          ufs_lookup.c 
>>>>   Log:
>>>>   Don't set IN_CHANGE and IN_UPDATE on inodes for potentially suspended
>>>>   file systems.  This could cause deadlocks when creating snapshots.
>>>>   
>>>>   Reviewed by:    jeff
>>>>   
>>>>   Revision  Changes    Path
>>>>   1.80      +0 -1      src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Like for example "ls -l /filesystem/.snap" when "fsck -B" is in place?
>>>       
>> Is that a deadlock, or just the process being suspended until fsck
>> finishes?
>>     

I think the only options we have to fix this is to either make the .snap 
directory 'hidden' (which is not a feature yet), or to possibly cache 
the inode information on parent directories containing snapshots, so 
when a fs is suspended or a snapshot is in progress, a stat of the 
parent directory of the snapshots' doesn't block until the snapshot 
finishes. 

There has been brief discussion on freebsd-fs@ about adding a 'hidden' 
flag (usable with chflags) to files and directories, and tools like ls, 
etc, that would normally stat each file/dir in a directory would ignore, 
unless a special option was used.  That would not stop other tools doing 
stat calls from seeing it though, but I think most of the blocking 
happens when a user does an ls -al in the directory.


Eric




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