From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 11:29:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97BAD4D75A for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D6C1688 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:27 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-92-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.92.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41C433CBF9; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v3OBTQp7002011; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:29:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: page removal Message-Id: <20170424132926.ca2fc5b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170424121448.183ceec6@archlinux.localdomain> References: <20170423150728.199dffab@archlinux.localdomain> <20170424121448.183ceec6@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 7942D68342C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1224 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:29:32 -0000 On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:14:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Unfortunately the off-list discussion obviously was fruitless. IIUC he > contacted somebody else. As a matter of principle he wants to have > control over his information. The main problem is that there are too many mirrors of the information he wants removed. Let's say the FreeBSD list admin deletes the message from the database and the web. But what about the many other mirrors? And what about users who locally store messages? Even worse, what if such a user decides to "re-upload" the message in question? Sadly, removing information from the Internet won't happen. The Elders of the Internet told me so. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...