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Date:      Mon, 18 May 1998 20:44:26 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why we should support Microsoft...
Message-ID:  <980518204426.ZM2180@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com> "Why we should support Microsoft..." (May 18, 11:23am)
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980518105723.3796A-100000@altrox.atipa.com>

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You obviously miss-understand the issues regarding monopolies and free
competition.  Should we support Microsoft, you haven't set forth one solid
reason for it.

Frank


On May 18, 11:23am, Atipa wrote:
> Subject: Why we should support Microsoft...
>
>
> <Puts on flame-retardant asbestos suit>
>
> I know I am going out on a limbe here, but I do not think the Justice
> Department should make any decisions on the software industry, and I think
> Microsoft should be allowed to ship whatever the hell it wants.
>
> We are told that this is a free, capitalistic country, but now they want
> to say it is just sort-of capitalistic? That you can make all the money
> you want, until you make too much? What kind of crap is that?
>
> I belive in economic Darwinism; that is to say, good products flourish and
> poor products wilt away. The consumer ultimately decides what sells and
> what doesn't, and not the providers. If Win98 stinks, I hope it dies and
> forces MS to make better products. But who am I to say what they should or
> should not try to do?
>
> Adding insult to this whole situation are the demands of the US
> Government. Now these are plain silly, and I applaud Bill Gates for
> telling them where to go with their suggesions:
>
> 	* That Microsoft disable their browser, and _all_available_means
> 	  of accessing it. This is _almost_ reasonable, but  I can
> 	  understand the common vision of PC's as extensions to the
> 	  Internet. To make a browser part of an OS seems like a really
> 	  cool idea to me. Now I do agree 100% that other browsers should
> 	  be able to operate in the new environment (eg, no MS booby traps
> 	  or proprietary mumbo jumbo to prevent competition)
>
> 	* If MS does include a browser, they must also provide all
> 	  competing products as well. Can you say horse<dung>? That is
> 	  entirely ludicrous. To paraphrase Bill Gates, "It is like having
> 	  to include 2 cans of Pepsi in every Coke six pack." Amen.
> 	  As I said, take off the restrictions and let the best product
> 	  win. As consumers, _WE_ are the ones getting hosed in this
> 	  ordeal, not Microsoft.
>
> 	* MS must modify their "Window Manager" so that OEMs and
> 	  competitors can customize their visual. How would all the
> 	  developers of FreeBSD feel if I took a FreeBSD release, changed
> 	  the GUI a bit, and called it AtipaOS? You would feel smited.
> 	  Also, the continuity of the UI is the only thing that makes
> 	  supporting this crap OS possible. If everyone had their own
> 	  interface, providers would have a bear of a time giving
> 	  accurate, detailed instructions.
>
> We must take a stand, and tell the Justice Deptartment to bugger off. They
> do not understand the software industry, they are setting a horrible
> precendent, and depriving the American people of free choice.
>
> They are ruining a good, competitive environment by degrading the efforts
> of the front runner, instead of promoting the laggers. We are all losing
> out.
>
> The issue to me is not whether or not Win98 is good or bad, the issue is
> freedom. I support Bill Gates in this issue, and hope you will as well.
> Hopefully, this product will fail all on its own, and open the doors to
> good programmers all over the world, without US ecomonic intervention.
>
> I hope you all can see through this junk. Liberty must be preserved. Let
> the best products win, and let MS die on its own two feet.
>
> Kevin
>
>
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