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Date:      Sun, 22 Dec 96  1:55:13 +0000
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Subject:   Re(2): User ppp not hanging up modem.
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> On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 wrote:
> > Nate Williams wrote:
> > > That's *NOT* the correct thing.  What happens when for some reason
> > > PPP happens to send the sequence '+++' to the modem?  All of a sudden
> > > it'll drop into command mode and you're screwed.  User-PPP (as well as
> > > all other PPP/SLIP implementations I've worked with) assumes that
> you've
> > > disabled the escape sequence at least temporarily.
> > > 
> > Interesting. But, what exactly is the prabobalitity of that? I will have
> > think about this one.
> Note that the standard command "&D3" tells the modem to reset itself when
> DTR drops.  Nate's right, this _is_ standard.  What he missed was that
> Hayes modems (Hayes originated the protocol that's now a defacto standard) 
> used to get around the +++ transparency issue by requiring a 2 second dead
> time (either before or after the +++ code, I forget which).

Before _and_ after - hence you are safe even if a packet begins or ends
with "+++".

>  Hayes
> patented that delay, I think, which is why modems don't use it anymore. 

Good modems still do (USR Courier for example) - presumably having
licenced with Hayes.  Some junk modems don't.....

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